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Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by onyeokwu: 11:34pm On Aug 21, 2014 |
ujoinme: another ijaw divide and grab the oilland got busted kudos to the people of ibeno and ibomites mission unaccomplished 3 Likes |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by pazienza(m): 11:39pm On Aug 21, 2014 |
That quote from Ibeno people was too much for me to bear, the quote should be written down for men to learn. I salute the wisdom, honesty and the brotherly love Ibeno people possess. They have it all, sea access, large amount of crude oil, wise leaders, they could easily forsake their brothers in Akwa ibom, establish a new ethnic group, join a new state accuse the Ibibios of domination, make anti Ibibio publication, engage in history revisionism to erase any link they have with Akwa ibom, build new city and towns and leave the rest of Akwaibom for dead. But they didn't, they didn't let their greed control them, they recognized the importance of family. Thanks to the wisdom and love of Ibeno people, the future of Akwa ibom remains bright, a state of one people,one parent language, and one love. God bless Ibeno people, God bless Akwa ibom state! 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by atlwireles: 11:44pm On Aug 21, 2014 |
pazienza: That quote from Ibeno people was too much for me to bear, the quote should be written down for men to learn. I salute the wisdom, honesty and the brotherly love Ibeno people possess. you no dey tire? Kai |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by pazienza(m): 11:48pm On Aug 21, 2014 |
atlwireles: I can never get tired of appreciating and praising men of wisdom like the leaders of Ibeno. They must be praised to teach the phoolish ones. 1 Like |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by atlwireles: 12:25am On Aug 22, 2014 |
pazienza: Keep praising, that too will teach you some lessons. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by IGBOSON1: 1:18am On Aug 22, 2014 |
pazienza: That quote from Ibeno people was too much for me to bear, the quote should be written down for men to learn. I salute the wisdom, honesty and the brotherly love Ibeno people possess. ^^^What saved Akwa Ibom is that we're not in a military dispensation! If not, Akwa Ibom would have been balkanised by fire or by force! All they need do is find a handful of greedy saboteurs from within, with little or no moral scruples; bribe them with promises of fame, wealth, connections in Abuja, and such materialistic piffle! All the sabo's need do in return is stick to the script by crying wolf where non exists; saying how they've been marginalised and brutalized in Akwa Ibom; that they're an autonomous ethnic group in their own right; and that the larger Akwa Ibom are doing 'attache-by-force' to thief their oyel and have access to the sea! Think i'm kidding? Egbema, Ndoni and Oyigbo are cases in point, and stand as testament to the shenanigans that goes on in this country! Also, they've succeeded in confusing some Ikwerre on their Igbo identity......having them believe that even though they bear Igbo names; have towns and villages with Igbo names (which they've recently changed to 'rumu' to distance themselves from the larger Igbo nation); and have Igbo traditions and culture......even though they have all these, they've been convinced to rewrite their history, and now claim to be the 'Ikwerre Nation' that have no links with Ndigbo! Go figure! 6 Likes |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by ujoinme: 1:58am On Aug 22, 2014 |
IGBOSON1: Akwa Ibom is one. our eastern obolo and ibeno brothers also know that no matter the state they go to they will still be minorities and especially after the marginalization they suffered in the hands of our Ijaw brothers during the sharing of the Amnesty empowerment for ex militants. They already know how they will be treated in an ijaw majority state. At least in Akwa Ibom they have learnt how to navigate the murky waters of the political space in the state to get what they want as minorities rather than learn all afresh with a new group. They say the devil you know is better than a "friend" you cant understand. And this year the gov. of the state has been zoned to Eket senatorial zone where they belong so they stand a chance producing the next gov. from that zone who will correct or address any perceived injustice that the oil bearing areas have faced. The Ibibios are democratic in nature unlike some other majority groups in Nigeria that oppress the minorities case in point the current governor is a minority and became governor because the state zoned it to his senatorial zone The ibibios supported it. Of the six ethnic groups in Akwa Ibom its only the Ibibios that have the numbers/ population to win an election without the support of any other group but they don't use their numbers to bully or necessary hug onto power. Akwa ibom has six ethnic groups : Ibibio, Annang, Oro,Ekid, obolo, and Ibeno. there is no ijaw land in Akwa Ibom. Ibibio, ekid,oro and ijaw are part of the people groups found in Eastern obolo and ibeno LGA's hence it will be very difficult to excise those regions because even though the obolos and ibeno are the majority in their LGA but their LGAs are not homogenous, they also have minority ibibio(from onna, Ikot abasi and mkpat enin ), ekid, oro and ijaws in their LGAs 4 Likes |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by atlwireles: 2:03am On Aug 22, 2014 |
ujoinme: That makes all the differences. People normally don't leave a good situation, unless compel by actions beyond their control. Aniomas are leaving delta because they think and believe they are marginalized. They are doing what they believe its in their best interest. The same thing the Ibenos are doing now by staying in Akwaibom, than joining a new state. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by pazienza(m): 9:11am On Aug 22, 2014 |
I see, this thread has taken a new interesting dimension, i would be back in the evening to offer some counter arguments to the points and accusations raised by Ujoinme's and Altwire's last posts. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by omololu2020(m): 11:54am On Aug 22, 2014 |
Akwa ibom guys on dis thread r really funny,if d national assembly agrees dat pple dat will mak up dis new state can choose if dey wanna b part of a new state or not,n d pple of ibeno não obolo choose to b part of New oil rivers state,u pple can do notin abt it |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by BabaTony: 12:03pm On Aug 22, 2014 |
omololu2020: Akwa ibom guys on dis thread r really funny,if d national assembly agrees dat pple dat will mak up dis new state can choose if dey wanna b part of a new state or not,n d pple of ibeno não obolo choose to b part of New oil rivers state,u pple can do notin abt it why are you desperate? na by force? na so dem dey create states? |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Nobody: 12:18pm On Aug 22, 2014 |
mencade5: nigeria is a land of confusion from north to south, east to west.My brother, we don't have such problem in west |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Nctrice(m): 12:31pm On Aug 22, 2014 |
yemaldo:what kind of problem are you referring to? |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Nobody: 12:34pm On Aug 22, 2014 |
Nctrice: what kind of problem are you referring to?I believe u should be more united, |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Nctrice(m): 1:04pm On Aug 22, 2014 |
yemaldo:who isn't? |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Donmarrius: 2:57pm On Aug 22, 2014 |
yemaldo:My friend,shut up,you don't have oil,which is the mother of divide and rule(Identity crises) politics in Nigeria. You don't have problem in the west,what of Ife and modake? 1 Like |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Donmarrius: 3:44pm On Aug 22, 2014 |
ujoinme:My brother,i beg to disagree on one point,which is marginalization. Let me say this,marginalizaition isn't a prime factor,in Oil politics of balkanization/divide-and-rule,but greed and interest. Read what Pazienza and Igboson are saying,to understand what is called oil politics. 1.If this military,am sorry,Akwa ibom has already lost ibeno,like Imo lost part of Oil Egbema to rich Egbema,to Rivers state.now we have Egbema in both Imo & Rivers. 2.Its in UN charter,for people to have the right,to decide who they want to be.So,what those whose "interest" is to annex the oil rich part of AKS will do,is just to look for greedy ibeno people,especially the vocal ones,and promise them top positions in the would be oil rivers state,and also promise them oil wells.then you will see how it plays out.you will see how they will denounce any link to AkS,and they will falsify lies of how their fathers and grandfathers migrated from Ijaw,and own Ibeno,and how ibibios/ekid/efik,etc.has been marginalizing them,and that they want to join their kins in the proposed oil rivers state.At that point,"it is their inalienable human right,to determine where they want to belong".where their is opposing views among them,referrendum will be conducted,to determine popular view.Hence,Akwa ibomites won't have a say. But let me congratulate the letter from Ibeno people,that i saw here.I feel happy,that they have choosen brotherliness over greed and oil.Oil will soon finish,even as its value is gradually but steadily waning away,at the global energy market,which is the reason for its downward price,but brotherliness,will forever abide.KUDOS TO IBENO PEOPLE. Should Nigeria divide,which is just a question of time,those who deny their brothers,will suffer slavery,in the hand of strangers.I LOVE AKWA IBOM.THEY ARE MY INLAW! 4 Likes |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by ujoinme: 3:59pm On Aug 22, 2014 |
Donmarrius: Marginalization can be real or perceived! and is a major factor in oil politics in Nigeria, Its marginalization whether real or perceived that creates room for balkanization to occur.If the majority of the people come to a concensus that their interest in the group they belong is not protected the will seceded. the good news is that these people have had long years of interacting with people from both the areas that will form the proposed Oil rivers and present Akwa ibom and they know where their overall interest will be best protected and hence their decision to stay in their present state. The truth is the people of Eastern obolo and ibeno want to remain Akwa Ibomites. No amount of enticement can change that. The majority of the indigenous people of the LGA share the Akwa Ibom heritage, but like you said there are always some people who can be bought especially disgruntled politician who failed in the bid to secure one office or the other, but those are the fringe group and are in the minority. And by the way the people of those areas like any oil bearing areas in Nigeria are very vocal and not Afraid to speak their minds on any issue, years of fighting the injustice of Nigerian govt and the oil multinationals operating on their soil have taught them that one thing. If oil rivers was what they wanted no one will be able to stop them from speaking out loud on the issue. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Nobody: 6:13pm On Aug 22, 2014 |
barcanista: I read and laugh at the comments of some dudes that think they have the exclusive right to decide for the people of Ibeno and co. The plaNned Oil Rivers state shouldn't cause this unnecessary bikering btw the Great Ijaw Nation and our Akwa Ibom neighbours. The proposed state is an exclusive btw the concerned communitiies and not an expansionist agenda. Well done Ijawcitizen and kel4soft.... KEEP DECEIVING YOUR SELF .YOU ARE STILL THE SAME GUY ON MULTIPLE MONIKER ,FAKE IJAWCITIZEN BARCANISTA ,KEL4SOFT . I WILL GIVE YOU NAMES OF YOUR VARIOUS EMAIL ADDRESS . IF YOU WANT ? I CAN SALE THE APPS TO YOU . |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by kel4soft: 9:06pm On Aug 22, 2014 |
TRIBALSTOOGE: Respect yourself. Stop mentioning my name. What I have I gat to do with this? |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by kel4soft: 9:06pm On Aug 22, 2014 |
TRIBALSTOOGE: |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by omololu2020(m): 12:29am On Aug 23, 2014 |
BabaTony:why will i b desprate,wetin concern me wit akwa ibom n ijaw,if una lik mak una kill una sef,ko kan aye....d peeps dat r desprate ova hia r pple from akwa ibom |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by omololu2020(m): 12:34am On Aug 23, 2014 |
Donmarrius:u r d one dat needs to shut up,so bcox of d violence dat took place between d pple of modakeke não ife,u conclude dat yoruba land wont b peacefull,u mumu no b small,yorubas dont giv a Bleep abt nig,weda nigeria divide or not,we yorubas will keep matchin on |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by omololu2020(m): 12:43am On Aug 23, 2014 |
mencade5: nigeria is a land of confusion from north to south, east to west.my broda plz speak for ursef,pple or region alone,if nigeria divide aLl d problm will still continue for u n ur pple,but we yorubas shall not hav any problm |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by mencade5(m): 1:38am On Aug 23, 2014 |
omololu2020: my broda plz speak for ursef,pple or region alone,if nigeria divide aLl d problm will still continue for u n ur pple,but we yorubas shall not hav any problmhow do you want to get your kwara state back from the fulani? Explain this without insult like a gentle for us to understand. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by BabaTony: 4:06am On Aug 23, 2014 |
omololu2020: why will i b desprate,wetin concern me wit akwa ibom n ijaw,if una lik mak una kill una sef,ko kan aye....d peeps dat r desprate ova hia r pple from akwa ibom Stop talking rubbish, the people in akwa ibom who are directly affected (eastern obolo and ibeno) have come out themselves to say they are not interested in any state creation so where is the desperation from akwa ibom coming from. The real desperados and land grabbers are the ijaw people in rivers state that want a state but want to annex other people's land without their consent in order to get it. ITS DEAD ON ARRIVAL. The same way the agitators of aba state will want to grab essien udim to form part of their state. If ijaw people in rivers want oil rivers then fine, they can go ahead and demand for it but they should never ever think they will take one inch of land from akwa ibom.PERIOD! The most annoying thing in this matter is the effrontery the have by including people they have never consulted with. Its ok. Their hope is built on Jonathan presidency. ..LOL, very foolishh. Even if it were during the military regime, it would still be dead on arrival because you cannot force people who are not interested in state creation (in this case eastern obolo and ibeno) to form a state. Name me one state in Nigeria that was created by the millitary without their consent. There is none. So quit dreaming with ijaw people about oil rivers state with akwa ibom land Mr Desperado. THERE ARE NO IJAW PEOPLE IN AKWA IBOM, EASTERN OBOLO AND IBENO HAVE NEVER BEEN AND NEVER WILL BE IJAW PEOPLE. This fact has been overflogged here so ijaw people should take note. 2 Likes |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by omololu2020(m): 2:37pm On Aug 23, 2014 |
BabaTony:dey r not ijaw,não dey r not also ibibio or annang,so if dia should b a referendum,dey will b d ones to decide if dey wanna b part of d new state or not,so guy mak u cool down |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by omololu2020(m): 2:40pm On Aug 23, 2014 |
mencade5: how do you want to get your kwara state back from the fulani? Explain this without insult like a gentle for us to understand.wot do u mean by ao will i get kwara back from fulani,kwara state z not ruled by a fulani man z been rulled by a yoruba man,n we hav nupe and oda tribes in kwara nOrth,so d whole of kwara z not yoruba land,,,,but u can let me understand ur question well well sha,cox me no really understand |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by BabaTony: 2:43pm On Aug 23, 2014 |
omololu2020: dey r not ijaw,não dey r not also ibibio or annang,so if dia should b a referendum,dey will b d ones to decide if dey wanna b part of d new state or not,so guy mak u cool down You are the one to cool down because they have made that call already and its posted by ujoinme above, so relax. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by onyeokwu: 1:00pm On Aug 25, 2014 |
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Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by steryc: 5:39pm On Aug 25, 2014 |
why is it that out of the 18 states recommended by national cofab ,is only OIL RIVERS STAT that is bringing issue in this forum. The fact that you served in eastern obolo does not make u more knowledgeable than d people .if u were reasonable ,did u border to ask where northern , western n southern obolo are ? are they in akwa ibom , have u bordered to ask the language obolo , which GRP of people speak it ?so what right do u, a mere coups member that served just a yr in eastern obolo , to know more than us the people of eastern obolo.My friend let me inform you.Am Awajiochit Ojoko a proud native of okoroete in eastern obolo, does that name sound like an Ibibio name, the fact,,, that we are in d present day akwa ibom state does not make us Ibibio ,get that clear , the same group of people glamouring for an akwa ibom not to be splited denied me , my medical grant as a medical students because of my name, because I don't speak the rubbish language they speak, when my local government literally feeds the state .They called me a Rivers man ,now leave me to join my ijaws brothers is another problem.Go and check the African encyclopedia , the IJAWS are the nembe,okrika,kalabari,ibanis, obolo,abua, ibeno etc,do your self a favour by asking Google who are the ijaw , d other fellow , that ask about amnesty , a blood cousin of mine benefited from amnesty , so get your info correctly b4 smelling your pammy mouth . proudly okoroete , proudly obolo(andoni), proudly ijaw.Besides the Ijaws had been agitating for these states since IBB administration, even b4 akwa ibom was created but only succeeded in Bayelsa alone in 96 leaving behind. oil rivers and torlu be states .Whether the devil likes it or not,OIL RIVERS has been approved by national. cofab n by God's grace it has come to stay.Let's see if that Yahoo Yahoo governor who spends our hard earn money anyhow on women claiming that akwa ibom is Ok,will continue. May my God that saved the Israelites from the captivity of Egypt be with us.May God plaque all the Ibibio that has afflicted us like He did to the Egyptians .God PUNISH THEM AMEN . 1 Like |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Nobody: 6:01pm On Aug 25, 2014 |
steryc: why is it that out of the 18 states recommended by national cofab ,is only OIL RIVERS STAT that is bringing issue in this forum. The fact that you served in eastern obolo does not make u more knowledgeable than d people .if u were reasonable ,did u border to ask where northern , western n southern obolo are ? are they in akwa ibom , have u bordered to ask the language obolo , which GRP of people speak it ?so what right do u, a mere coups member that served just a yr in eastern obolo , to know more than us the people of eastern obolo.My friend let me inform you.Am Awajiochit Ojoko a proud native of okoroete in eastern obolo, does that name sound like an Ibibio name, the fact,,, that we are in d present day akwa ibom state does not make us Ibibio ,get that clear , the same group of people glamouring for an akwa ibom not to be splited denied me , my medical grant as a medical students because of my name, because I don't speak the rubbish language they speak, when my local government literally feeds the state You are a very funny liar. Obollo people are not Ijaw. |
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