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Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by shota(m): 4:07am On Sep 06, 2014
onyeokwu:

those few immigrant in ibenoland that claimed to migrated from ijawland shall be repatriated with fishing canoe back to bayelsa from whens the came from grin grin grin grin grin shocked shocked shocked cool cool
get it into your tick skull ok


hahahaha . Now I see why you Efiks lose Bakassi to no tribe in Cameroon. Cos of your foolishness..You people should stop killing any more Obolo Ijaw in Akwa Ibom. The world should first know about your aggression on the Obolo Ijaw people before we start our counter action. .
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by shota(m): 5:40pm On Sep 17, 2014
ujoinme:

okay we will shall see. four years is not long a long time, president jonathan if elected will have 4 years to implement the recommendations of the conference, there is no need shouting i can bet you that not even one village from Akwa Ibom will be part of any new state.
in your ignorance you keep referring Akwa Ibom as efik, thats why fools like you probably think you can steal Akwa Ibom land as they did bakassi. Akwa ibom will resist any attempt to annex any part of its land.

From your ignorant rant i have concluded that you do not know what you are talking about, and you are not ijaw, but just a trouble maker. we aint going anywhere and ranting in nairaland can no state create. watch the next four years and see the ijaw expansionist wet dream remain exactly what it is.


We need more house helps in Rivers State so please apply for job there, you efik / Ibibio Niger Delta wannabe Mboko swine.
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by shota(m): 5:45pm On Sep 17, 2014
ujoinme:

If you were on ground you would have known that the so called ijaws in Eastern obolo are a minority in that LGA just as we have minority ijaw settlers from the Atlantic coast of Akwa ibom to the cross river banks of the state. settling in Akwa Ibom territory does not make any of that land to be ijawland and the majority of the people of eastern obolo are not of ijaw ethnic group. Even among the obolos only few families will agree that they are of ijaw ancestry especially the Obolos of Akwa Ibom.

When people like you speak of a place that they lack knowledge of, your naivety oozes.

Its no longer the military era where people were partitioned into states without their consent by military fiat, Now there is a constitutional provision on how states can be created in Nigeria, go read the constitution and familiarize your self with it especially the aspects of state creation and not be carried away by the recommendation of a conference which is nothing but a recommendation! which if it ever were to be implemented will still be subject to the constitutional legislative provisions.

Because the president is Ijaw, Whom we Akwa Ibomites love and support anyways does not give the ijaw expansionist the right to arbitrarily arrogate undue powers to themselves, especially that of state creation which is a pure legislative affair in this democratic dispensation.

Even states where a majority of people(aborigines) are asking for will never see the light of the day not to talk of the so called oil rivers which is just a figment of imagination of ijaw expansionist that lacks the backing of the majority aborigines of the area.
an oil rivers state that include any parts of present day Akwa Ibom state will remain a wet dream of fringe groups like the one whose propaganda you espouse.


We were minorities when we were all in EASTERN region. The Igbo people did not say over their dead body for us to have our state. Rivers state was created and some Igbos were added to us. We are not holding them or forcing them to stay with us. The Ikweres and Umumas are Igbos and we respect that. The same way in Akwa Ibom. The Obolo Ijaws were added to Akwa Ibom and it was fine. So not matter how minor they are, they want to join their brothers and there is nothing you Efik Ibibio animals can do about that.. Touch any more Obolo blood and see what happens to you murderous cows . Bunch of useless oppressive people.
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by shota(m): 5:49pm On Sep 17, 2014
onyeokwu:

the dearth that want to kill a bog does not allow the dog to smell shit
continue claiming other peoples territory till the day of reckoning
see your mouth ijaws are reday to defend ijaw lnad which land? the one in bayelsa or where? even bayelsa is not even entirely ijawland
since anyland that has oil is synonimous to ijaw na greediness go kill you people
just wait for the day of reckoning is fast approaching
we will know the owners of the land and the fisher men that came to settle
whats the different between Ibeno in ebonyi and the ibeno found in ibom? i will not be supprise if oil is found in ibeno land in ebonyi tomorrow you guys will start claiming them been ijaw
whats the different between obollo and obulu that are found in all igbo areas even in anioma
but we are not dragging this people with ibom because we consider ibom people as a branch of ibo people and they are good neighbor and best ally to ibos
but you ijaw people trying to claim what does not belong to you, you will meet the mighty wrath of ibos and ibom people this time around

No one is claiming Efik Ibibio land.. THE OBOLO natives said they are not EFIK/ IBIBIO so There is nothing you Ibibio / Efik people can do about that... If People from Uyo say they are not Efik, It would be their right to say so. If Bakassi people say they are Cameroonians and not Nigerians, it would be their right to say so. If Obudu or Ugep people say they want to join Benue or Taraba it woudl be their right to say so.. What is wrong with you people ?? THE OBOLO PEOPLE SAY they dont want to be in AKWA IBOM state and so it shall be.

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Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by OboloMAN: 9:50am On Oct 16, 2014
the demand for
the creation of Oil Rivers State predates
the 2014 National Conference. It is
significant to note that the Ijaw people
through the Ijaw National Congress (INC)
demanded for three homogenous states
during the Babangida and Abacha eras to
wit: Bayelsa, Oil Rivers and Toru-Ebe
States. However, only Bayelsa State was
eventually created. And more recently,
when the National Assembly called for the
submission of memorandum for the
creation of states, the Ijaw people of Rivers
and Akwa Ibom states submitted a
memorandum for the creation of Oil Rivers
State which was signed by all the Local
Government Legislators, Houses of
Assemblies members and National
Assembly members of Ijaw extraction from
Rivers and Akwa Ibom states. This
requested was also presented before the
Senate Committee on the Review of the
1999 Constitution by the leaders of the
proposed Oil Rivers State in Calabar in
2012.
3. In any case Obong Victor Attah, Chief
Nduese Essien and others who signed the
petition against the creation of Oil Rivers
State lacks the locus to do so as the
proposed Oil Rivers State is only for the
Ijaw people and land inhabited by the Ijaw
people of Rivers and Akwa Ibom States.
The petitioners are not part of the
proposed state, hence they lack the locus
to opposed the creation of Oil Rivers State.
Therefore, we call on the relevant
authorities to disregard the protest as the
proposed Oil Rivers State deserved to be
created on merit.
4. The IYC wish to make it abundantly
clear that anybody or group of people
opposing the creation of homogenous Ijaw
states for the Ijaw people of Akwa Ibom
and Rivers State on one hand, and the Ijaw
people of Delta, Edo and Ondo States on
the other hand are threats to the existence
of Ijaw people and we are ready to take
any step to protect our existence. The IYC
would not sit back and allow Ijaw people
to be politically and economically
oppressed and suffocated in Akwa Ibom,

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Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by OboloMAN: 10:18am On Oct 16, 2014
Reps approve 71 amendments to Nigerian
constitution
Abuja – The House of Representatives on
Wednesday in Abuja voted to effect 71
amendments to sections of the 1999 constitution.
The lawmakers also backed the adoption of
referendum for state creation.

OIL RIVERS STATE IS A REALITY..

IJAWS ARE ONE

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Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by shota(m): 12:32am On Oct 17, 2014
OboloMAN:
the demand for
the creation of Oil Rivers State predates
the 2014 National Conference. It is
significant to note that the Ijaw people
through the Ijaw National Congress (INC)
demanded for three homogenous states
during the Babangida and Abacha eras to
wit: Bayelsa, Oil Rivers and Toru-Ebe
States. However, only Bayelsa State was
eventually created. And more recently,
when the National Assembly called for the
submission of memorandum for the
creation of states, the Ijaw people of Rivers
and Akwa Ibom states submitted a
memorandum for the creation of Oil Rivers
State which was signed by all the Local
Government Legislators, Houses of
Assemblies members and National
Assembly members of Ijaw extraction from
Rivers and Akwa Ibom states. This
requested was also presented before the
Senate Committee on the Review of the
1999 Constitution by the leaders of the
proposed Oil Rivers State in Calabar in
2012.
3. In any case Obong Victor Attah, Chief
Nduese Essien and others who signed the
petition against the creation of Oil Rivers
State lacks the locus to do so as the
proposed Oil Rivers State is only for the
Ijaw people and land inhabited by the Ijaw
people of Rivers and Akwa Ibom States.
The petitioners are not part of the
proposed state, hence they lack the locus
to opposed the creation of Oil Rivers State.
Therefore, we call on the relevant
authorities to disregard the protest as the
proposed Oil Rivers State deserved to be
created on merit.
4. The IYC wish to make it abundantly
clear that anybody or group of people
opposing the creation of homogenous Ijaw
states for the Ijaw people of Akwa Ibom
and Rivers State on one hand, and the Ijaw
people of Delta, Edo and Ondo States on
the other hand are threats to the existence
of Ijaw people and we are ready to take
any step to protect our existence. The IYC
would not sit back and allow Ijaw people
to be politically and economically
oppressed and suffocated in Akwa Ibom,


WELL SAID.
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Manzy17: 4:58pm On Nov 28, 2014
Well I enjoy this Argument but as an Obolo man I can proudly correct some impressions here. The Andoni also known as Obolo, Idoni apu, or Ido is Izon and to be precise the 1st son of Ijo. Presently they are their brother Oron do not speak Ijo but originally migrated out of their families and settled with the Efiks and Ibibios in Urombi, also known as Ramby in portuguese documents of our people. It is their stay in Urombi and inter-marriage that changed their linguistic construction into what we speak today as a language. Till present the neither an Obolo man or Oro son will agree to be Ibibio because they know they are not yet they do not deny their friendship with the Ibibios, Efiks or Annangs. Now Ibeno is Obolo and it was the Prince of Ibeno to founded Eket during the reign of king Nna Biget who was a tyrant ruler and did so many oppressive acts against Obolo sons and daughters. Yes till today in Ikot Abasi LGA there are still Obolo communities, Uta Ewa is one and from there to Okoroboile or Okoroinyong is not far. Also the the Andoni names especially some Old towns like Asarama, Alabie - Agwut Obolo, Gogo - Ngo Aya-ama, Iwoma etc. Ama means the same in all Izon groups from Akwa Ibom till Ondo. etc still has the Ijoness which we try to deny. Ayaile is purely an Ijo. denying Ijo heritage is sometimes good and sometimes dangerous to our politics as Obolo people. All Ijo do not speak one language due to their agelong History but that does not make them strangers. I am from Okoroboile a descendant from Inituk brother to the great Agalaga. I cannot deny my bloodline because of modern politics of fighting for place in the system. My Ancestor fought for Obolo sons not to be slaves and today we understand why we as Obolo people should stand for freedom and development. Eket has claimed Ibibio but was never founded by Ibibio man. It was from Eket that the Ibeno prince regrouped with a stronger force to destroy the tyrant reign of Nna Biget from the Asarama area. I think only an Obolo man knows his story. I think Obolo sons should ask questions as far back before Europeans came to avoid this misunderstandings and the political misinformation of our time. Obolo month bolo. We are the largest distinct Ijo clan. Our sons have begotten many like the Ohafia in Igbo land, Ogoloma in Okrika, Kala Ido in Kalabari, Bolo in Okrika, and many Opobo families, not forgetting the Aro people knwon as Arochukwu in Igbo land. We are more than we are presently, we should learn to value our heritage and fight for our unity rather than more divide which makes us less important and less-existent in the nation of Nigeria. Obolo itiki.

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Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by ujoinme: 5:15pm On Nov 28, 2014
shota:



We are talking about the Ijaw minorities of Akwa Ibom. They need to join their brothers to form a state to be free from that minority status . How is that a problem ?

They can migrate to ijaw land/States and join their ijaw brothers if they like the land they occupy in Akwa Ibom Is not ijaw land. and as someone who is vested in the area i can tell you that that will be the last thing that any ijaw family in Eastern Obolo will do, because we dont trust the ijaw expansionist, When it comes to sharing in the presidential amnesty and things that matter in oil politics, The expansionist bring up a dichotomy and call us Akwa Ibom men, Not Ijaw men, so they can sideline us, Like i said mention 2 eastern obolo people that benefited from the amnesty program? The few Ijaw family thats reside in Eastern Obolo, will share a common cultural tie with the ijaws but not a political union, for we know how greedy and discriminatory you ijaw expansionist are.
How many of our eastern obolo ijaws are in the presidency? how many has been empowered by NIMASSA,controlled by mainland ijaws? are we less educated than the mainland ijaw militants that are pilots today? You mainland ijaws expansionist should stay in your lane, and let us be.

Any brotherliness that seeks to rob you of the little you have to add to his massive wealth is a brotherhood that must be resisted and resist it we shall.
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by ujoinme: 5:34pm On Nov 28, 2014
Manzy17:
Well I enjoy this Argument but as an Obolo man I can proudly correct some impressions here. The Andoni also known as Obolo, Idoni apu, or Ido is Izon and to be precise the 1st son of Ijo. Presently they are their brother Oron do not speak Ijo but originally migrated out of their families and settled with the Efiks and Ibibios in Urombi, also known as Ramby in portuguese documents of our people. It is their stay in Urombi and inter-marriage that changed their linguistic construction into what we speak today as a language. Till present the neither an Obolo man or Oro son will agree to be Ibibio because they know they are not yet they do not deny their friendship with the Ibibios, Efiks or Annangs. Now Ibeno is Obolo and it was the Prince of Ibeno to founded Eket during the reign of king Nna Biget who was a tyrant ruler and did so many oppressive acts against Obolo sons and daughters. Yes till today in Ikot Abasi LGA there are still Obolo communities, Uta Ewa is one and from there to Okoroboile or Okoroinyong is not far. Also the the Andoni names especially some Old towns like Asarama, Alabie - Agwut Obolo, Gogo - Ngo Aya-ama, Iwoma etc. Ama means the same in all Izon groups from Akwa Ibom till Ondo. etc still has the Ijoness which we try to deny. Ayaile is purely an Ijo. denying Ijo heritage is sometimes good and sometimes dangerous to our politics as Obolo people. All Ijo do not speak one language due to their agelong History but that does not make them strangers. I am from Okoroboile a descendant from Inituk brother to the great Agalaga. I cannot deny my bloodline because of modern politics of fighting for place in the system. My Ancestor fought for Obolo sons not to be slaves and today we understand why we as Obolo people should stand for freedom and development. Eket has claimed Ibibio but was never founded by Ibibio man. It was from Eket that the Ibeno prince regrouped with a stronger force to destroy the tyrant reign of Nna Biget from the Asarama area. I think only an Obolo man knows his story. I think Obolo sons should ask questions as far back before Europeans came to avoid this misunderstandings and the political misinformation of our time. Obolo month bolo. We are the largest distinct Ijo clan. Our sons have begotten many like the Ohafia in Igbo land, Ogoloma in Okrika, Kala Ido in Kalabari, Bolo in Okrika, and many Opobo families, not forgetting the Aro people knwon as Arochukwu in Igbo land. We are more than we are presently, we should learn to value our heritage and fight for our unity rather than more divide which makes us less important and less-existent in the nation of Nigeria. Obolo itiki.

The ijaws can be progenitors of Nigeria, Youroba, Igbo And hausa if they wish,claiming something does not make you have it! all we are saying is leave Akwa Ibom territory out of your oil rivers state, Akwa Ibom people want to remain in Akwa Ibom, not in a segregated Ijaw state.
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by tuyetimi: 12:12pm On Jan 28, 2015
You told us of And on I people in eastern obolo and ibeno, who are they? Perhaps you may want to say they are efik people right? Very sorry about this. You have missed the point totally. Will you also say that Kalabari or Okrika are not Ijaws?


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ujoinme:


You are speaking out of ignorance, you dont know the mindset of Akwa Ibom people. Have you ever heard of the Itai State agitation? the proposed oil rivers state you are busy shouting about you dont even know the genesis of it.

The Oil rivers is not an Ijaws idea but is an idea propagated by our brothers the Efiks of calabar to get back at Akwa Ibom for the oilwells and to change their non Littorial state status.

The idea is to annex all the riverine areas of Akwa Ibom and join it to efik land in southern cross river state to form oil rivers state.
This is and inhouse fight between Akwa Ibom and cross river and has nothing to do with Ijaws, Except in your expansionist theory the Efiks have also somehow become Ijaws.

Its an in house fight and we already know who will win. Our brothers from across the river an Akwa Ibom have been trying to outfox one another right from time immemorial we will settle our family problem amicably and in a civilized manner as we always do.

And by the way Akwa Ibomites are not at war with Our Ijaw brothers we have lived together fished the same waters and shared the same discrimination as minorities as oppressed oil producing communities in the lopsided entity called Nigeria for eons.

Uninformed Kids like you need to learn some history before you spew trash on a public domain as you are doing at the moment, and i doubt if you are even an Ijaw because Ijaws Know their history. Cheers.
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by ijawcitizen(m): 12:12am On Jun 29, 2015
So far, all Andoni (Obolo-Ijaw) sons who have spoken up on this thread are for the inclusion of Eastern Obolo & Ibeno LGAs in the new homogenous Ijaw state.

Let me call on an interesting fellow, NDPVF , a guy who claims Ibeno & Ibibio at will and interchangably, along with a strong attachment to Igbos (who evidently oppose Ijaw progress).

NDPVF ...may we please hear from you, but you are adviced to go thru' all comments from page 1
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by amanda2013(f): 1:24am On Jun 29, 2015
ijawcitizen:
So far, all Andoni (Obolo-Ijaw) sons who have spoken up on this thread are for the inclusion of Eastern Obolo & Ibeno LGAs in the new homogenous Ijaw state.

Let me call on an interesting fellow, NDPVF , a guy who claims Ibeno & Ibibio at will and interchangably, along with a strong attachment to Igbos (who evidently oppose Ijaw progress).

NDPVF ...may we please hear from you, but you are adviced to go thru' all comments from page 1
igbos oppose ijaw progress but voted massively for Goodluck Jonathan an ijaw man? You are pathetic.

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Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by NDPVF(m): 5:31am On Jun 29, 2015
ijawcitizen:
So far, all Andoni (Obolo-Ijaw) sons who have spoken up on this thread are for the inclusion of Eastern Obolo & Ibeno LGAs in the new homogenous Ijaw state.

Let me call on an interesting fellow, NDPVF , a guy who claims Ibeno & Ibibio at will and interchangably, along with a strong attachment to Igbos (who evidently oppose Ijaw progress).

NDPVF ...may we please hear from you, but you are adviced to go thru' all comments from page 1
May i know the purpose of this?.Even if a state is about to be created,dont we have right to say we will be here or there?.May i remind you that at the pick of the event,our elders took a stand.I wont come here to be silly.Of course,am Ibibio,but am from Ibeno,and you dont know why.My "strong" attachment to Igbos is my right to choose friends among others,and shouldnt be misconstrued.
I fought and defended Ijaw cause,more than i have done to Igbo cause,and people here will attest to that.so what do you mean?.

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Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by NDPVF(m): 5:34am On Jun 29, 2015
amanda2013:
igbos oppose ijaw progress but voted massively for Goodluck Jonathan an ijaw man? You are pathetic.
My question,what does he intend to achieve with this.?
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by HopeAtHand: 5:58am On Jun 29, 2015
NDPVF:
My question,what does he intend to achieve with this.?

He intends to know if u're Ibeno(Ijaw) or Ibibio.

If you're for Oil Rivers state or against it.


As for me, the Ijaw in Rivers should get lost.
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by NDPVF(m): 6:38am On Jun 29, 2015
HopeAtHand:


He intends to know if u're Ibeno(Ijaw) or Ibibio.

If you're for Oil Rivers state or against it.


[s]As for me, the Ijaw in Rivers should get lost.[/s]

Thats too hash!.Like i said earlier,am of Ibibio root,but am from Ibeno.Anybody from Eket or Esit-eket can easily explain what i mean.Iwuochang is my village,i wont go more than that,for pesonal reasons.
As regards Ijaw/Ibeno,i am not unaware of our history.it is known fact here that Ijaws mixed here,via fishing,and it happened for decades ago.same as Ghananians.This issue he is trying to raise,sometimes do cause fight/quarells in my place.We and Eket people do fight over related issues,and others.i dont want to wash my dirts in the public.Thats why i told him,"our elders took a stand on this matter,during the pick of the event". Fact,are their people here with Ijaw roots?.yes.Are there people here with Ghananian root? yes.

As regards Ijaws in Rivers state.

Like i always tell you,Rivers state is "Nigeria creation".Before the word "Rivers state",their has been people living there.The Ijaws in Rivers state,are not "tenants".They are aborigins.They had inhabited their current location before anything "Rivers state" was created.My point?.Saying "As for Ijaws in Rivers state,they should get lost",is really bad.They are not getting lost anywhere.They are in their fore-fathers land,and hence,ain't getting lost anywhere.They also has right to agitate for their own state.Should Nigeria break today,and Ijaws wanted to have their own country,Ijaws in Rivers are not going to pack out.Rivers state will simple be divided,and everybody answers his fathers name.
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by HopeAtHand: 7:00am On Jun 29, 2015
NDPVF:


As regards Ijaws in Rivers state.

Like i always tell you,Rivers state is "Nigeria creation".Before the word "Rivers state",their has been people living there.The Ijaws in Rivers state,are not "tenants".They are aborigins.They had inhabited their current location before anything "Rivers state" was created.My point?.Saying "As for Ijaws in Rivers state,they should get lost",is really bad.They are not getting lost anywhere.They are in their fore-fathers land,and hence,ain't getting lost anywhere.They also has right to agitate for their own state.Should Nigeria break today,and Ijaws wanted to have their own country,Ijaws in Rivers are not going to pack out.Rivers state will simple be divided,and everybody answers his fathers name.

Ijaws migrated into Rivers and other parts from Bayelsa..if they wanted a state they shouldn't ask for lands that was given to them to occupy by their hosts to be a part of their new state.it is an insult to the sensibilities of others.

Whenever they are tired of Rivers, which they will soon, they shouldn't ask beyond their Riverine swamplands..

In Rivers, Bonny history, Kalabari, Okrika, Opobo are well documented explaining when such towns were formed and by who.

Ikwerre is the Aboriginal owners of Rivers.
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by NDPVF(m): 7:20am On Jun 29, 2015
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HopeAtHand:


Ijaws migrated into Rivers and other parts from Bayelsa..if they wanted a state they shouldn't ask for lands that was given to them to occupy by their hosts to be a part of their new state.it is an insult to the sensibilities of others.

Whenever they are tired of Rivers, which they will soon, they shouldn't ask beyond their Riverine swamplands..

In Rivers, Bonny history, Kalabari, Okrika, Opobo are well documented explaining when such towns were formed and by who.

Ikwerre is the Aboriginal owners of Rivers.
[/s]Ikwerre is the owner of "Rivers" or porthacourt?.
How about Ogoni?.
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by HopeAtHand: 7:36am On Jun 29, 2015
NDPVF:
[s][/s]Ikwerre is the owner of "Rivers" or porthacourt?.
How about Ogoni?.

Ikwerre is the Owner of Rivers...Ogoni people?? Those ones are just difficult to understand.
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by NDPVF(m): 8:20am On Jun 29, 2015
HopeAtHand:


Ikwerre is the Owner of Rivers...Ogoni people?? Those ones are just difficult to understand.
Dont fall victim of what you always accuse others of.Ikwerre doesnt own Rivers state.If you talking of owning PH,i will agree with you.But Rivers state as a whole?.You are being plain greedy.Ikwerre has only 4 local governments in Rivers state.Ogonis,Ijaws etc,also has.so stop grabbing other peoples land.
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by fineguy11(m): 8:20am On Jun 29, 2015
Rubbish...if ijaws are tired of staying in akwaibom,they shld relocate to another state...Akwaibom will not give out an inch of our territory...
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by HopeAtHand: 1:08pm On Jun 29, 2015
NDPVF:
Dont fall victim of what you always accuse others of.Ikwerre doesnt own Rivers state.If you talking of owning PH,i will agree with you.But Rivers state as a whole?.You are being plain greedy.Ikwerre has only 4 local governments in Rivers state.Ogonis,Ijaws etc,also has.so stop grabbing other peoples land.


Yea, 4 but because of our population can easily be split into 10 if we want cos they are big enough both in area and population..


Akwa Ibom smaller than Rivers State in Landmass has 31LGAs while Rivers has 23.if Akwaibom did things like us then they sould have like 12 or 11 LGAs.
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Manzy17: 11:33am On Sep 08, 2015
The Ikwerre Man who speak of owning Rivers State and Port Harcourt is a big comedian. The Akwa Ibom who says that other people's ancestral land in Akwa Ibom state is his own. All these comedians because of state creation? Well all men to their comic opinion including mine. But with the seriousness of this discussion I say this. I as an Obolo man have no grudge with any Ibibio, Annang, Efik, Igbo or Ikwerre man. Whoever wants to be sentimental has his right to do so but to me clamoring for a state where the oppression will be less is not bad. I know by these group leaving it will reduce the wealth of their present states and as such I know jealousy is the reason of these online quarrels. No doubt. But somehow those who are against the creation of Toru Ebe and Oil Rivers States are not wrong my reason is that development does not come by more division it comes by proper understand for its need by the people involved. Most Ikwerre people are a collection of Benin, Ijo and Ibos and because Igbo proximity they adopted the name Ikwerrela. By reasoning of Agreeing to be one. Port Harcourt is an ancestral home to both the Ikwerres and Okrikas of Ijo extract. Diobu (Dinobu) is an Okrika word but the people are Ancestrally Ikwerre. The name came as a result of the civil war between Obumotu (Port Harcourt South) a section of the Rebisi kingdom in Port Harcourt North and part of Obio/Apkor a in the mile 3 Axis. These predated the independence of Nigeria or Rivers State as a state. The defunct Obumotu came by Harcourt needing the water terminals for sea business. This is why the Harcourt Quarters was at Moore House in the Borikiri Ama of Obumotu. The boundary of these group is clear and documents exists signed by the chiefs of Obumotu an the Rebisi king for the city to be born. For the aspect of Akwa Ibom Ijos I would say that they remain a minority there and have often suffered during government policies concerning the none Ibibio groups. Only Annang could withstand the Ibibio political dominance because of their number. Oro and Obolo have one father Abang. Due to their sojourning with the Efiks, Ibibios and Annangs at Camoroun mountains so truly one could calle them siblings for years of staying together but since they still remember their root as Ijaw will you blame them of accepting their root? My Ibeno brother is free to accept Ibibio if he wants that will not stop me as. An Eastern Obolo man from seeing him as my brother. And Ibibio man is a closer friend. The states remain one is not bad and if created it still should not be bad. Someone asked about Ogoni. Please the Ogoni has nothing to do with Ghana that is a political history to control from the Bonny axis. The Ogonis where also one of the families that stayed at the cameroon mountains and migrated long before the Obolo and Oro groups and settled in hinterlands while the Obolo settled below. They are also close but constant war for lands made them enemies which is fast healing now. Plz what is far greater than all these is the unity of all tribes in Niger Delta. He have bigger challenges than all these irrelevant sentiments. Before state creation we all worked together. If we end the sentiments we can still have many states fight for a place for the national marginalisation of the region a house divided against itself will not stand. Let me point out something, during Niger Delta agitations people from Akwa Ibom and Cross River felt less concerned to the extent that the Ijaws were blacklisted as naturally restive. Unity brings progress. Even in Bakassi crises people from Rivers had to go to cross river to ease the brutal treatment of the gendarmmes against the Oron and Ijaw inhabitants of the area. So until the sentiments are taken down we cannot make the federal government value each group despite the language spoken. Please let us all drop our sentiments and be one.
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Manzy17: 11:37am On Sep 08, 2015
The Ikwerre Man who speak of owning Rivers State and Port Harcourt is a big comedian. The Akwa Ibom who says that other people's ancestral land in Akwa Ibom state is his own. All these comedians because of state creation? Well all men to their comic opinion including mine. But with the seriousness of this discussion I say this. I as an Obolo man have no grudge with any Ibibio, Annang, Efik, Igbo or Ikwerre man. Whoever wants to be sentimental has his right to do so but to me clamoring for a state where the oppression will be less is not bad. I know by these group leaving it will reduce the wealth of their present states and as such I know jealousy is the reason of these online quarrels. No doubt. But somehow those who are against the creation of Toru Ebe and Oil Rivers States are not wrong my reason is that development does not come by more division it comes by proper understand for its need by the people involved. Most Ikwerre people are a collection of Benin, Ijo and Ibos and because Igbo proximity they adopted the name Ikwerrela. By reasoning of Agreeing to be one. Port Harcourt is an ancestral home to both the Ikwerres and Okrikas of Ijo extract. Diobu (Dinobu) is an Okrika word but the people are Ancestrally Ikwerre. The name came as a result of the civil war between Obumotu (Port Harcourt South) a section of the Rebisi kingdom in Port Harcourt North and part of Obio/Apkor a in the mile 3 Axis. These predated the independence of Nigeria or Rivers State as a state. The defunct Obumotu came by Harcourt needing the water terminals for sea business. This is why the Harcourt Quarters was at Moore House in the Borikiri Ama of Obumotu. The boundary of these group is clear and documents exists signed by the chiefs of Obumotu an the Rebisi king for the city to be born. For the aspect of Akwa Ibom Ijos I would say that they remain a minority there and have often suffered during government policies concerning the none Ibibio groups. Only Annang could withstand the Ibibio political dominance because of their number. Oro and Obolo have one father Abang. Due to their sojourning with the Efiks, Ibibios and Annangs at Camoroun mountains so truly one could calle them siblings for years of staying together but since they still remember their root as Ijaw will you blame them of accepting their root? My Ibeno brother is free to accept Ibibio if he wants that will not stop me as. An Eastern Obolo man from seeing him as my brother. And Ibibio man is a closer friend. The states remain one is not bad and if created it still should not be bad. Someone asked about Ogoni. Please the Ogoni has nothing to do with Ghana that is a political history to control from the Bonny axis. The Ogonis where also one of the families that stayed at the cameroon mountains and migrated long before the Obolo and Oro groups and settled in hinterlands while the Obolo settled below. They are also close but constant war for lands made them enemies which is fast healing now. Plz what is far greater than all these is the unity of all tribes in Niger Delta. He have bigger challenges than all these irrelevant sentiments. Before state creation we all worked together. If we end the sentiments we can still have many states fight for a place for the national marginalisation of the region a house divided against itself will not stand. Let me point out something, during Niger Delta agitations people from Akwa Ibom and Cross River felt less concerned to the extent that the Ijaws were blacklisted as naturally restive. Unity brings progress. Even in Bakassi crises people from Rivers had to go to cross river to ease the brutal treatment of the gendarmmes against the Oron and Ijaw inhabitants of the area. So until the sentiments are taken down we cannot make the federal government value each group despite the language spoken. Please let us all drop our sentiments and be one. Every man in each state is indigenous so to say Ijaws should leave is a wrong statement to make. Such persons might instigate problems of genocide to claim people's property and that is very bad for social integration.
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Nobody: 12:01pm On Sep 08, 2015
all this argument is just for only one reason oil. if the lands has no oil, there wont be this arguments. It is easy for us to accuse the North and West of wanting one Nigeria because of oil. We are also doing exactly d same thing. Resisting a state creation because there is oil in the propose state. What a shame?
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Nobody: 12:02pm On Sep 08, 2015
fineguy11:
Rubbish...if ijaws are tired of staying in akwaibom,they shld relocate to another state...Akwaibom will not give out an inch of our territory...

Would you have mind if the land under discussion has no oil?
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by shota(m): 2:45pm On Oct 18, 2015
Nctrice:
Former Governor of Akwa Ibom State, Chief Victor Attah, former Minister of Lands and Survey, Chief Nduese Essien, and other state caucus members at the National Conference have kicked against the recommendation of the conference to create “Oil Rivers State” from the present Akwa Ibom and Rivers States.
In a protest letter addressed to the chairman of the conference, the 13 delegates from the state said the provision was now contained on page 4, line 11 of the “draft constitution” produced by the conference secretariat.
According to the delegates from the oil-rich state, the proposed plan to dismember some parts of Akwa Ibom state to form an “Oil Rivers State” is not only treacherous but amounts to a hidden agenda by people whose aim might be to scuttle the final outcome of the conference.
Part of the letter reads: “This action is at variance with the conference decision of the Committee on Restructuring and Forms of Government. The conference decision as correctly reflected on page 281 (b) of the draft report was that ‘the third state to be created in the South-south zone will be named later along with its state capital’.
“This inclusion is a slight of hand, unholy and completely unacceptable to us as there was no prior discussion with Akwa Ibom State and her delegates on the matter.”
The group said although it supported the creation of more states where deserving, the process should be in consultation with all relevant stakeholders.
“As the true representatives of our state and people at this conference, we have been mandated to reject totally and disassociate ourselves and our state completely from this provision.
“We assert that no part of Akwa Ibom State should be excised to form a new state,” the letter further reads.
Also, Ondo State delegate, Sola Ebiseni, said the best way out was dialogue.
According to him, “What this has demonstrated is the need for continuous dialogue among the constituent groups within the country. Some of the things we hold tenaciously to, we might discover at the end of the day are resolvable when there is dialogue.
“The issues whether we are bringing a new draft constitution that the public thought would tear the conference apart today (yesterday) turned out to be of less importance to the conference.
“This is because we discovered at the end of the day that these are issues of formality. Some of the opponents of the new draft constitution appeared to me not to be concerned with the content but with whether it is going be translated to a new constitution.
“I will rather say whatever their passion is for the 1999 constitution, in my own view, it has not changed the fact that the decision of this conference has torn the 1999 constitution into shreds through most of the fundamental recommendations we have made that would turn Nigeria into a truly federal state.
“At the end of the day, those who wish to stick with the status quo can keep the carcass of the 1999 Constitution because the content of our report, in term of quality, reach and objective is monumental.

“The outcome of the conference today (yesterday) can be said to be victory for dialogue and victory for the Nigerian people and not for a section.
“Those who thought there were centrifugal forces within the conference aiming to tear the country apart must have realised the futility of their actions because we all want to belong to a big, powerful and proactive Nigeria that would be a pride of the African continent.”

Source:

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/akwa-ibom-delegates-protest-against-recommendation-for-oil-rivers-state-/186383/



If the purpose for state creation is well explained or defined with Delta and Edo or even Kwara and present day Rivers state as examples to exaplain that state creation has got no ethnic agenda but for development sake, These Akwa Ibom people would have no point to stop the creation of Oil Rivers State. The so called places of Akwa Ibom to be in the new Oil Rivers State have been neglected and oppressed . They are Nigerians living in those places and Nigeria is not an Apartheid state so even if the residents there are Efiks or Ibibios, they have the right to belong to where they want to belong for the purpose of development . It is therefore not a question of natives or non natives but a question of neglected Nigerians. Those Akwa Ibom people kicking against the move do not live in those places and have never lived there so they can not speak on behalf of the people who live there .
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Nobody: 1:07am On Dec 07, 2015
ijawcitizen:
I'm really very disappointed in the comments from akwa Ibomites here esp ujoinme & utoroetti, i'm yet to get the opinion of ocelot2006. I'm Particularly disappointed that fellow niger deltans would oppose the progressive venture ijaw people have decided to undertake within ourselves. Ibibio have their own oil wells within their lands, ijaws don't envy your possession, why all these unnecessary envy, hate and envy on ijaw people on account of natural environment and resources? The Ignorance on ur path that you never knew Eastern Obolo &Ibeno were ijaws and not related to ibibio is truely appailing, some igbos here (esp paz ienza) brought up this argument sometime ago and i personally put them to shame, thats why its least expected of my akwa ibomites. i just can't imagine atlwireles or urhobos opposing ijaws who want out of delta state. i've also not heard of rivers igbos and ogonis accusing ijaw of "stealing their access to the sea". when did ibibio people acquire this negative bad belle igbo mindset?


TonyeBarcanista - can't u make a post without calling the igbos
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Amadi45(f): 2:04am On Dec 07, 2015
TonyeBarcaniata. so you are "ijawcitizen"
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by EasternPride: 2:38am On Dec 07, 2015
chuna1985:



TonyeBarcanista - can't u make a post without calling the igbos

I don't even know what these ijaw people have turned to overnight, these guys better chill. We didn't make Jona lose election.
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Nobody: 7:25am On Dec 07, 2015
1shortblackboy:
I'm not in support of any new state whatsoever. We have not managed d ones we have properly we want to add more. And who says d new states won't have minorities who will later still cry of marginalisation and demand their own new state. Wen will it end ? Till every nuclear family becomes a state ?

No.
It will end when every nuclear family becomes a country. No I forgot. Till when every individual in every nuclear family becomes a state or a country. grin

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