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Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by iamord(m): 10:26am On Aug 16, 2014
amnestylaw1:

Yes, if I were to be infected with the virus, the most sensible and logical thing would be for the scientists to try it on me after getting my consent. Afteral, my chances of survival after contracting the virus is somewhat low.

That's why the test on rats..cos the can't go extinct.. They r just too many
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by publicenemy(m): 10:28am On Aug 16, 2014
Missy89:

Mzapp is being tested but it had good trial results before it was used on humans. how can you expect someone that is about to die give you consent to a drug?. they are not in a clear state of mind and even if you bring mirinda, they will take. the state health authorities needs to consider the effect this untested drug will have first and weigh the pros and cons. its not the time to be emotional because people are dying

What i meant is,someone close to death has nothing to lose...whatever gives them hope of survival is worth it,even if its got side effect.

So what do you think?

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Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Cheny(m): 10:29am On Aug 16, 2014
The issue with many Nigerians is that we always like a fire-brigade approach without thinking deeply. How on earth will a product that is not antiviral work against a virus. A product that has never been tried experimentally on Ebola related cases has suddenly become a cure for Ebola. Even if the Western World have their own issues and faults,must we always embarrass ourselves before the entire world.Last time and even till now,many educated folks that should have known better took part in saline-water therapy due to a fetish mindset,now we are embroiled in the nanosilver saga because we want to prove to the world that we too can cure EVD. Until we adequately invest in research and education and wipe out corruption,greed and all the tribalism that has defined this nation,we will sooner than later find ourselves in a viscous circle.

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Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by publicenemy(m): 10:32am On Aug 16, 2014
Missy89:

maybe you cant read or you are a pure m0ron. do you have the test results from the drug trials? or because you are trying to accept a home grown drug, it shouldn't be scrutinized? and be injected into patients without enough information?

Dont mind the idioot... Educated illiterate according to you...lolz wink
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Billygee2u: 10:32am On Aug 16, 2014
BekeeBuAgbara: Lagos should provide an alternative if its not ready to use Dano Silver, or continue waiting for American ZMAPP, which Obama is not ready to give Nigeria. The commissioner should be reminded that Zmapp couldn't save spanish priest life.
Why can't they test the drug first before rejecting it.
you want lagos state to miss looting the 150,000 000 Naira that Dangote donated for Ebola treatment ?
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by adamsjj: 10:33am On Aug 16, 2014
APC been stewpeed since1877...
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by najoke: 10:35am On Aug 16, 2014
[b]“Experimental Ebola Drug”: Let’s Set The Record Straight

The euphoria that has greeted the donation of Nanosilver, by an undisclosed Diaspora Nigerian scientist, for treating Ebola patients in Nigeria is understandable. Ebola has no cure, therefore any agent that has the slightest potential, real or imagined, of ameliorating the dare condition of these patients, is welcomed. The News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) recently reported that The Minister of Health, Professor Onyebuchi Chukwu revealed that “The only experimental drug we have now is Nanosilver, provided by a Nigerian scientist; details of the drug will be disclosed later to the media”. Prof. Edward Oparaoji Nappsa.org

This statement by Professor Chukwu is misleading and disingenuous and could further ridicule Nigeria and Diaspora Nigerian scientists. His statement can be construed to mean that Nanosilver is either an invention of a Nigerian Scientists which it is not or in a clinical trial by a Nigerian Scientist which it is not. Nanosilver has been around for centuries and is used as food supplements found in health food stores, and as various antiseptic or antibiotic preparations. At this time it does not qualify as an “experimental drug” for Ebola. To categorize a medicinal agent as experimental has a defined meaning, it is a confirmation that the agent has already been cleared and qualified as such, by a governmental regulatory authority, for use in an intended disease condition.

While not sure where in the Diaspora the Nigerian scientist that supplied this compound resides, if in the USA, for instance, the FDA must grant it an investigational new drug (IND) status, meaning it has shown some promise at least against Ebola virus in laboratory animals.

If he or she is in Canada, a clinical trial application (CTA) must have been filed and approved. If in Europe, he or she must have applied and obtained approval from each country where the Nanosilver-Ebola trial will be conducted, as well as register the trial in a database of all European clinical trials, EudraCT.

Although Nanosilver is relatively safe, with its most common side effect being argyria- a condition that turns the skin blue or bluish-grey, and worth trying in Ebola patients, there is no record showing it to neither be an experimental drug for Ebola nor an invention of a Nigerian scientist. Nevertheless, the Scientist who sent the medication should be commended. This is setting the record straight[/b]

[url]http://saharareporters.com/2014/08/15/%E2%80%9Cexperimental-ebola-drug%E2%80%9D-let%E2%80%99s-set-record-straight[/url]

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Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by nora544: 10:39am On Aug 16, 2014
duni04:
The people that created zmapp told us they got it from tobacco extracts, its online check it. We know the names of the zmapp researchers, we know their lab, we know their sponsors, we have access to their previous research articles online, we have access to the results of their animal trials. Everything is online. But who is the maker of this nanosilver? What is his name? Who are his researchers? Where are his research articles? You don't know but you want someone's husband, someone's wife and kids to drink nanosilver. Doesn't it sound ridiculous to you?

search University of life science vienna Prof. Herta Steinkellner and you will get much information and you will see how they get the drug.

She is the cofounder of ZMAP - is is made from tabac plants
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Amhappy(f): 10:40am On Aug 16, 2014
HAH:

Can you take otapiapia if I tell you it can cure your ailment.

My people please wise up

Otapiapia is a well known rat poison. From what i read nanosilver has been in use for many things including,disinfectant,food supplement, water purification,killing some bacteria etc.
So if it was proposed as a trial cure for ebola,it can be experimented in rats or monkeys and then on the patients. That why i asked,where Nafdac is? We cant just fold our hands blc US said so. We have 4 fatality already and the number of infected people will definitely rise. We dont have zmapp so lets make due with what we have.

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Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Nobody: 10:40am On Aug 16, 2014
BekeeBuAgbara: Lagos should provide an alternative if its not ready to use Dano Silver, or continue waiting for American ZMAPP, which Obama is not ready to give Nigeria. The commissioner should be reminded that Zmapp couldn't save spanish priest life.
Why can't they test the drug first before rejecting it.
I tire ooo. True talk jare.... Therez no harm in trying ooo.... Atleast we wld know if its even effective:p
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by amnestylaw1(m): 10:44am On Aug 16, 2014
iamord:

That's why the test on rats..cos the can't go extinct.. They r just too many

It's not just only about extinction, but also about ethics and morality among other things. It isn't just humane to carry out tests on animals cause we want to better our lot. They are equally shareholders in our planet. Because we are powerful shouldn't justify cruelty. It is cruel to inflict disease and pain on another being, especially without their consents.
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Dee60: 10:49am On Aug 16, 2014
TRADELYN: How will they get the American ZMAPP?

I read in newspapers that President Obama disapproved the use on Africans naa undecided

American government does not sell drugs!!! FG ought to know how to do these things. If you are desperate about any new drug or any new product you will go and invest 'seed money' so that the trials can be finalized. FG should 'invest' in ZMAPP instead of discussing with government. Nothing goes for free. It cost millions to come out with a new drug and we should not be thinking that the producers will dole it for free. That simply does not make any business sense. Stop the cap in hand approach to hings. We need ZMapp? Then invest in it and get it and dont turn it into another politics.

I dont know how FG came about the nano silver solution.I hope it is not another 'salt water' or 'kolanut' solution! We cannot toy with lives. Nano Silver is not cheap and it is also an American product, so they do not have anything to lose if we keep importing it. I am sure that their concern is to avoid travelers importing Ebola into the US, so they are also having a stake in this.
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Nobody: 10:50am On Aug 16, 2014
BTT:

Yes.

This is the way politicking makes us stop employing our brains. I am very sure you will willingly take a bullet for a monkey, right. That is how precious monkeys are to the human race than you think you are.

And yes, I am with the LASG on this one. Except the zmapp is not available, I won't support using humans as lab rats for a drug whose manufacturer remains anonymous.

Use rats, monkeys and yes, monkeys instead of humans before graduating to volunteers.
Easy! I have not come here to argue "politicking" and how it "makes us stop employing our brains". I do not support the administration of an under researched drug on humans. I only raised an objective concern that highlights Western hypocrisy. Last year in USA, a police man was fired for shooting @ a squirrel, but the same nation intentionally injects a lethal virus in an animal to text the efficacy of their drug. My question is, "Is it right or wrong" "how negligible or otherwise is the life of an animal" what is the stand of the world in violence against animals" How much does the sacrosanctity of our life compare to that of our animal brothers?

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Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Nobody: 10:51am On Aug 16, 2014
chewing raw faeces and tobacco extract together has been known to partially cure ebola.
source: www.theblackdeath.org
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Nobody: 10:56am On Aug 16, 2014
Pataki: Foolish Nigerians.

Nano-silver is a pesticide. FG killing Nigerians massively since 2010.
Most pesticides are also antiviral. Dont be silly.

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Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Wislet(f): 11:09am On Aug 16, 2014
hod898: It's not necessarily about politics. It's about a slave-master relationship in which the Nigerian government sold Nigerians as slaves to the West, such that they only believe drugs approved by WHO and the likes. Instead of taking time to experiment on nano-silver, a drug known to destroy even the deadliest bacteria, the government rejected it. It rejected it! Even if it was eventually found not to cure the disease, the specialists could still study the way it inhibits viral replication and mutation in body cells and possibly develop something similar that can destroy Ebola virus. See, this is often the result of not investing in research and technology in a country. The government does not encourage our scientific geniuses. Around 2010, a nigerian medical doctor developed a cure for HIV. He was beguiled here and humiliated by our health officials. WHO asked him to state his formula but he insisted saying, "until Coca-cola state theirs, I won't mine". They took him to US for 'investigation' and since then, nobody heard of him again. Similar case occured in 2012, only this time it was Paul Orhii, NAFDAC boss that humiliated with inordinate hysteria a prof.of Igbenedion university. Nigerians are one of the most intelligent people on earth, the only problem is that they are barely encouraged. Every sector in this country called Nigeria needs a revolution.
NIGERIANS SHOULD BE ENCOURAGed TO BRING OUT THEIR BEST IN THEIR VARIOUS PROFESSIONS, AND NOT BELITTLED OR MADR TO FEEL INFERIOR. NIGERIANS ARE VERY INTELLIGENT PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW/UNDERSTAND WHY SOMEONE WILL SAU HE/SHE DISCOVERED THE CURE FOR SOMETHING AND NO ONE WOULD TAKE THEM SERIOUS. AND WHY SUBJECT THE PERSON TO THE APPROVAL OF U.S? REALLY? THE U.S WILL APPROVE OF SOMETHING BEFORE YOU USE YOUR SENSES? WHY TAKE THE PERSON TO THE U.S TO PROVE THEMSELVES? DON'T YOU HAVE AGENCIES HERE TO DO THAT? DOES THE U.S BRING THEIR OWN SCIENTISTS TO NIGERIA FOR APPROVAL BEFORE TESTING OUT ANYTHING/USING ANY DRUGS?? CAPITA NO! YOU ONLY LEARN OF THEIR CURE AFTER EVERYTHING IS DONE AND IT'S SHIPPED TO YOUR COUNTRY FOR USE!
THE SOONER WE COME TO OUR SENSES, THE BETTER FOR THIS NATION. PLEASE GET RID OF INFERIORITY COMPLEX. NIGERIANS HAVE BEEN NATURALLY ENDOWED WITH WHAT THE WORLD SHOULD ENVY...THAT'S WHY SOME PEOPLE HATE YOU, COS THEY KNOW YOU GOT IT IN YOU!!
LEAVE INFERIORITY COMPLEX AND SEE YOURSELF AND YOUR OWN PEOPLE AS YOU SHOULD....Winners, Geniuses, the best.

NIGERIA CAN FIND THE CURE TO HIV/AIDS, CANCER AND EVEN THIS EBOLA IF AND ONLY IF WE APPLT THE ABOVE.

ALL THESE AGENCIES WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY SHOULD STOP ACTING LIKE IDIOTS AND STOP LICKING THE BUTTS OF FOREIGN COUNTRIES. YOU ARE THERE TO DO YOUR JOBS. DO IT AND STOP LOOKING FOR ASSISTANCE OUTSIDE. THEY DON'T LIKE YOU..THEY DON'T THINK MUCH OF YOU...THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO PROGRESS MORE THAN THEM., SO QUIT THE FOOLISHNESS AND TRUST YOURSELVES.

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Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by deeobserver209(m): 11:10am On Aug 16, 2014
Lagos State government killing Lagosians since 1999!
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Nelson1235: 11:11am On Aug 16, 2014
It seems u re one of the APC member, boy
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Nelson1235: 11:13am On Aug 16, 2014
It seems u re one of the APC member, boy
Billyonaire: Most pesticides are also antiviral. Dont be silly.
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Kennyfancy(m): 11:17am On Aug 16, 2014
EasternLeopard: Why can't they infect a monkey and try out the drugs before rejecting it

Is it because it is connected to FG(PDP) that the drug was rejected

Pls oooooo

Lagos state give the drug a trial on monkeys before rejecting. Stop playing politics with peoples lives
u must go far in life..i pray GOD bless u
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by NSNA: 11:17am On Aug 16, 2014
Silly move by Lagos.

Nano Silver has no side effects... a natural cure
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by simplexvi: 11:21am On Aug 16, 2014
foolish nigerians...we dont believe in our selfs.... mk dem test am first since the victims have no other option than death

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Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Affable200(m): 11:24am On Aug 16, 2014
Nigeria! why are we killing our selve.Why we don't value what we have. You have not tested the drug and you reject it immediately to Zmapp.Do you know if Nano silver work perfectly to Zmapp.Let's help ourselve.

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Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by biodunid: 11:26am On Aug 16, 2014
BTW it is apparently nothing to do with any naija scientist but typical snake oil that has been peddled by Indians and others for years. Being the usual gbogboise medicine one should be surprised that a so called medical doctor health minister in naija fell for this scam but I guess the billions at stake explains everything.

Mayo Clinic's view:

http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/consumer-health/expert-answers/colloidal-silver/faq-20058061

My dad takes colloidal silver for his health, but is it safe?
Answers from Brent A. Bauer, M.D.
Colloidal silver isn't considered safe or effective for any of the health claims manufacturers make. Silver has no known purpose in the body. Nor is it an essential mineral, as some sellers of silver products claim.
Colloidal silver products are made of tiny silver particles suspended in a liquid — the same type of precious metal used in jewelry, dental fillings, silverware and other consumer goods.
Colloidal silver products are usually marketed as dietary supplements that are taken by mouth. Colloidal silver products also come in forms to be injected or applied to the skin.
Manufacturers of colloidal silver products often claim that they are cure–alls, boosting your immune system, fighting bacteria and viruses, and treating cancer, HIV/AIDS, shingles, herpes, eye ailments and prostatitis.
However, no sound scientific studies to evaluate these health claims have been published in reputable medical journals. In fact, the Food and Drug Administration has taken action against some manufacturers of colloidal silver products for making unproven health claims.
It's not clear how much colloidal silver may be harmful, but it can build up in your body's tissues over months or years. Most commonly, this results in argyria (ahr–JIR–e–uh), a blue-gray discoloration of your skin, eyes, internal organs, nails and gums. While argyria doesn't pose a serious health problem, it can be a cosmetic concern because it doesn't go away when you stop taking silver products.
Rarely, excessive doses of colloidal silver can cause possibly irreversible serious health problems, including kidney damage and neurological problems such as seizures. Colloidal silver products may also interact with medications, including penicillamine (Cuprimine, Depen), quinolone antibiotics, tetracycline and thyroxine (Levothroid, Levoxyl, Synthroid) medications.
Indiamart's view:

http://www.indiamart.com/healthy-living-india/nano-silva.html
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by EasternLeopard: 11:28am On Aug 16, 2014
Kennyfancy: u must go far in life..i pray GOD bless u

AMENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN


Thanks Bros

God bless you too
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by 3kay945(m): 11:37am On Aug 16, 2014
In the absent of none it is reasonable to administer the only available nano silver drug.
Should I call this pride, politics or I don't care attitude on the part of the government.
The relatives and colleagues of the infected should speak out now or else, they bury their loves ones.
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by ElFenomeno1: 11:40am On Aug 16, 2014
EasternLeopard: Why can't they infect a monkey and try out the drugs before rejecting it

Is it because it is connected to FG(PDP) that the drug was rejected

Pls oooooo

Lagos state give the drug a trial on monkeys before rejecting. Stop playing politics with peoples lives

Do you have a monkey we can borrow Lagos State Govt.?! undecided
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by ascaris(m): 11:40am On Aug 16, 2014
Symphony007: Your government came to you and said a "nigerian scientist in diaspora" donated this drug. Who knows his name, his company, which country exactly is he in?....when you administer an untested drug on patients and rather than cure the virus, multiply it and even make it airbone, who will you run to?
I know Dr Simon Agwale at the University of Jos before before he left for the US. He is a patrotic Nigerian.
Even if it is a food suppliment, will there be any harm in using it? Let us not play politics with our lives.
We will surely survive this Virulent virus.

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Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by claycares: 11:41am On Aug 16, 2014
oluwasegunfummi: "we yorubas are sadist and the problem of nigeria" this has confirmed my statement........eko o ni baje ooo cool
My boss from the same tribe has been saying this for a long time now.

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Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by Nobody: 11:41am On Aug 16, 2014
Pataki:

Sugomu. When scientist were busy making headway in research, your so-called Professors were foolishly telling you bitter kolanuts was a vaccine for ebola.

As if the foolishness was not enough, you all foolishly again believed salt and warm water was a vaccine.

Now what this time? A pesticide?


Are you a zombie?
SERIOUSLY, I never knew Nigerians can be that silly all in the name of distrust for America due to their ignorance and enviousness, most especially, the Muslims and the primitive ones among them. It is shameful most Nigerians are foolish. That is preposterous to say the least.

Great move by Lagos state.
Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by EasternLeopard: 11:46am On Aug 16, 2014
ElFenomeno1:

Do you have a monkey we can borrow Lagos State Govt.?! undecided


You wasted your free education

So you are saying we have eaten all our monkeys

You need to be tied to a tree and shot

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Re: Lagos Rejects Ebola Trial Drug, Nano Silver by ElFenomeno1: 11:50am On Aug 16, 2014
EasternLeopard:

You wasted your free education

So you are saying we have eaten all our monkeys

You need to be tied to a tree and shot

Your father wasted his free education for a tin of sardine... that is why your trifling as...shole cun..t face is roaming about a public forum and constituting a nuisance

I hope you get ravaged by Ebola during one of your monkey consummation sessions...

Fu...cking pillock.... Ashiere jatijati!

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