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Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Tundeiab(m): 5:38am On Aug 30, 2014
goodgood2:
The guy did the right thing; he delivered his message in the right section of Nairaland. Romance section is made up of mostly fornicators and adulterous people. Do you take evangelism to churches? No! You take it to places with high rate of sinners, like brothels, night clubs...
guy! Some places are no go areas o... I heard of a brother who went to preach to sex workers in a brothel. You want hear wetin happen? They seduced him and he had canal knowledge of them. cheesy
Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Tundeiab(m): 5:44am On Aug 30, 2014
esere826: ehmm OP
just in case u go back
console urself with this:

2 Corinthians 12: 7 or because of these surpassingly great revelations. Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. 10 That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong
wink
See as people dey twist the word of God to suit derailed minds. Bro Paul wasn't referring to sin, but a sore on his skin...let's not misquote the scripture Biko!

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Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Nobody: 5:53am On Aug 30, 2014
Tundeiab: guy! Some places are no go areas o... I heard of a brother who went to preach to sex workers in a brothel. You want hear wetin happen? They seduced him and he had canal knowledge of them. cheesy

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Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Tundeiab(m): 5:54am On Aug 30, 2014
duni04:
I can imagine you saying this as a testimony in church grin grin grin
Don't mind the pervert! grin
Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Nobody: 6:03am On Aug 30, 2014
my contribution to the fight is to stop watching movies especially Hollywood and bollywood.and if you are watching television and you see a beautiful woman please remove your eyes immediately until the woman is removed.or even in the street you are walking.sounds strict but know that you are co operating with God when u do this.and again.if we really want victory we would stop listening to or watching videos of worldly songs.let us be seperated from the world first and God will no longer see us as enemies. anymore

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Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Tundeiab(m): 6:06am On Aug 30, 2014
Dux01: it is because he was not BROKEN nor was filled with the the Holy Spirit.
I attended MFM for 6 years so I know all about brokenness. A spirit filled pastor in MFM fell from grace back then when a satanic agent came to his office asking the pastor to pray for her. She pretended to have fallen under the anointing and she opened her lap. Lo and behold she was pantless.

She shot evil arrows through her vj and the pastor committed sin with her.

The only sin the bible says we should flee from is sexual sin bro! No dey form saint in front of seductive lady o. I take God beg you...Biko!
Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Revrnd(m): 6:07am On Aug 30, 2014
Bother Daniel, thank God you are now delivered. for those who say u have to satisfy urself cos it's nature I pity u, read Romans 6v9. pls repent from ur evil ways all ye abusers of (themselves) mankind. get yourself a legitimate spouse and escape from the impending danger that is about to come on humanity. God is about to take His people home and those remaining here will have to face the Islamic state's torture and hell fire.
Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Akalia(m): 6:10am On Aug 30, 2014
Dolemite: I've been masterbating for ages and I am happy happy happy, life has been so good to me. grin
keep it to yourself ma'am
Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Nobody: 6:12am On Aug 30, 2014
i pity your eternal destination.the fact you attended mfm for six years does not mean what you know by being spirit filled.do you know what is the meaning of being ''crucified to the flesh" if the evil arrows worked it can only mean one thing he was not Spirit Filled.do you know who the Holy Spirit is?paul says that they that are christ have crucified the flesh with it affections and lust.is the power of the devil greater than God?pls stop insulting the power of God and glorifying the power of the flesh which can be subdued.

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Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Akalia(m): 6:16am On Aug 30, 2014
Dolemite:

If you know the history of this 'God' you speak of, you'll know it's just man made nonsense...
you see, am a sinner like you under the grace of GOD. But please don't say Blasphemy against GOD.

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Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Nobody: 6:17am On Aug 30, 2014
@tundealabi for your information,a girl has tried to seduce me before.i just kept quiet.and i knew that the attachments and lipstick and trouser and eyeshadow or whatever she put on were all marine properties.

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Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Desric(m): 6:28am On Aug 30, 2014
Konjour:

Your conscience is partly a derivative of your upbringing and your culture. If you've been brought

up in a society where its termed an immoral act to remain uncircumcised, you'll feel guilty

everytime you see your foreskin. If you grow up in a society where idol worship is the norm, you'll

feel normal when you bow down to a piece of wood and your conscience won't prick you a bit.

If you grew up in a society where its illegal to engage in any form of public display of affection,

you'll experience a culture shock when you settle in a country where its allowed, and you'd feel

'guilty' or morally wayward if your girlfriend or wife kisses you in public.

Your conscience is flexible, that's why a man can slaughter his fellow man on TV just to send a

message and still be able to sleep at night.

That you feel guilty about it has more to do with the kind of teachings you've been brought up

with. In Nigeria, some people still feel guilty to tell their husbands or wives 'I love you' cuz their

warped sense of judgement, and 'conscience' tells them its immoral.

Your conscience can indeed be modified or reconfigured to suit whatever purpose you want it

to serve. It can be trained to serve as a leash, and it can be trained towards making you a killing

machine.
This piece of analysis deserves an award because I don't see any more better way to educate ourselves about how we feel, our conscience, and or sin as a product of several factors. Thank you very much for writing this simple piece.

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Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Sallychizzl3: 6:34am On Aug 30, 2014
Revrnd: Bother Daniel, thank God you are now delivered. for those who say u have to satisfy urself cos it's nature I pity u, read Romans 6v9. pls repent from ur evil ways all ye abusers of (themselves) mankind. get yourself a legitimate spouse and escape from the impending danger that is about to come on humanity. God is about to take His people home and those remaining here will have to face the Islamic state's torture and hell fire.

The most senseless comment of all time. I dunno you people's problem. Whenever you start your religious thread and start brainwashing each other, Muslims always stand aloof watching your drama without interfering or have you encountered any Muslim bringing his religion to the table from page0? undecided

But not you people, you will always try to start a war. Am sure if it is a Muslim that started this thread in the 1st place the bashing he'll have received from xtians would have been overwhelming. Y'all don't own the world and am cocksure you don't have a say in heaven. The earlier you come to terms with that the better for you. Mtcheeeeeeeeew! angry

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Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Nobody: 6:35am On Aug 30, 2014
pls don't let what is happening to any pastor reduce your belief in the power of God to overcome temptation.we cannot do it on our own but only by the grace and power of God.

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Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Lagbaja01(m): 6:37am On Aug 30, 2014
Toks2008: I have been a believer since i was 13 so no one should come here to write trash without biblical backings.

This is my view

Self servicing is a rather complex matter.

The Bible is totally silent about this matter but then I always ask; when you masturbate, what do you think about? This is where the complexity sets in.

I really don’t think a single man or woman wil be thinking about a football game or a tractor when self servicing but probably about someone who he or she is not really married to which makes it lusting which translates to sin..

Married people who self service thinking about their hubby or wives may really be practicing a sinless act but I believe it will be unwholesome to self service thinking about an illicit sexual act.

Nevertheless, this subject remains one with strong debate where some believe that as long as actual sexual intercourse is not involved, it is sinless and harmless but this is my take on the matter.
you failed to establish reasonable points because of your failure to describe/explain into details what you mean by " Self servicing is a rather complex matter"
Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by virginboy1(m): 6:48am On Aug 30, 2014
At 25,I have never bleeped. I have kissed only once , i dont masturbate...


But, as it is, am in a konlomental stage...the urge is way too much for my flesh to handle...

My spiritual bros prescribed prayers,fasting,drinking of pap etc. For where!!! The stubborn libido is still coming.

May God help me

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Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by arthurflex(m): 7:00am On Aug 30, 2014
It can only stop when there is no more urge for Sex
Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by priscaoge(f): 7:03am On Aug 30, 2014
donroxy: Your mouth must be like that of Tortoise even early morning a girl throw first insult ? ....

your conclusion regarding oyakhilome's alleged statement !

Now, you don't know what the bible said regarding self service but could conclude Oyakhilome's alleged statement is ''misleading some people'' ...

Your statement regarding the medical aspect is not even well tailored the reason why the dude, kojour, picked it up !!

Stop fighting for who mentioned /quote your name , nothing special about it Nairalander , fight for well tailored english and effective communication

If you can't succintly addressed yourself any Nairalander can pick it up and give you more insight !
IGNORED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Nobody: 7:03am On Aug 30, 2014
badpeople: Hmmm Nigerians with pretence, well firstly, this ia wrong thread for this post, u shld have post Christian or religion related thread, but Daniel, u ve not discovered urself, u have talent, all u need is a relationship wit a lady dat doesnt pretend so both of u can enjoy urself to d fullest, dis is a nature and u can't cheat nature, and d ladies dat respond to dis issue on dis thread are not helping issue, instead of arranging how to bleep dis guy to d core so dat he can feel relief, they kip giving fake advice, all of u shld remember this is romance section, if u ar here, then u ar here
Abeg let him recover fully joor. Whats in this sex thing sef, can't lie though, but op you weren't the only one that suffered. If the urge comes back again, do cut your peenis and be done with it.
Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by priscaoge(f): 7:05am On Aug 30, 2014
Mintayo:
Thats the devil's trap to lure people into sin,same way he tells some people that smoking is not in d Bible hence there is nothing wrong with smoking. But we have forgoting that mastur.bation is the lust of the flesh,its sexual immorality and an impure act and i am sure people know the stand of God against this three.
Again,the Bible says our body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which we must not be defiled,masturbation like any other sin and negative habit defiles the temple of God which is our body. People who masturbate think abt sex,watch porn or imagine lust while doing it,nobody can deny that. That alone is a sin!
May God help us.
May God help us my Dear!

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Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Nobody: 7:09am On Aug 30, 2014
arthurflex: It can only stop when there is no more urge for Sex
That is why apsotle paul said he crucifies his flesh DAILY.

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Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by tuffgongjo(m): 7:29am On Aug 30, 2014
Danrizzle: Abeg let him recover fully joor. Whats in this sex thing sef, can't lie though, but op you weren't the only that suffered. Op If the urge comes back again, do cut your peenis and be done with it.
cut as in Literarily or Figuratively?
Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Nobody: 7:30am On Aug 30, 2014
Something is wrong with Nigeria. This is not normal.

Dux01: my contribution to the fight is to stop watching movies especially Hollywood and bollywood.and if you are watching television and you see a beautiful woman please remove your eyes immediately until the woman is removed.or even in the street you are walking.sounds strict but know that you are co operating with God when u do this.and again.if we really want victory we would stop listening to or watching videos of worldly songs.let us be seperated from the world first and God will no longer see us as enemies. anymore
virginboy1: At 25,I have never bleeped. I have kissed only once , i dont masturbate...
But, as it is, am in a konlomental stage...the urge is way too much for my flesh to handle...
My spiritual bros prescribed prayers,fasting,drinking of pap etc. For where!!! The stubborn libido is still coming.
May God help me
Mintayo:
Thats the devil's trap to lure people into sin,same way he tells some people that smoking is not in d Bible hence there is nothing wrong with smoking. But we have forgoting that mastur.bation is the lust of the flesh,its sexual immorality and an impure act and i am sure people know the stand of God against this three.
Again,the Bible says our body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which we must not be defiled,masturbation like any other sin and negative habit defiles the temple of God which is our body. People who masturbate think abt sex,watch porn or imagine lust while doing it,nobody can deny that. That alone is a sin!
May God help us.
Tundeiab: I attended MFM for 6 years so I know all about brokenness. A spirit filled pastor in MFM fell from grace back then when a satanic agent came to his office asking the pastor to pray for her. She pretended to have fallen under the anointing and she opened her lap. Lo and behold she was pantless.
[size=18pt]She shot evil arrows through her vj[/size] and the pastor committed sin with her.
The only sin the bible says we should flee from is sexual sin bro! No dey form saint in front of seductive lady o. I take God beg you...Biko!
Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by SurePresident: 7:31am On Aug 30, 2014
Hmmmm....
Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by SurePresident: 7:35am On Aug 30, 2014
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Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by EternalBeing: 7:41am On Aug 30, 2014
True Love is still very real despite the fact that the devil has wrongfully programed a lot of people's mind to live like dogs having multiple partners under self-deceit that true love does not exist. Paul said for those that can't... search for your soulmate, pray and get married=sex. [b]Marriage is NOT the ceremony and gathering of people NO! Read Genesis 2:24-25 to understand the Spiritual Mystery that Sex=Marriage.[\b] Whether u r 18 or 30, choose just one and GOD will prosper d union if both of u stay faithful to each other for d rest of ur lives. GOD created sex for us as a covenant Sweet bond between 2 persons that have chosen to become 1 (Sex=Marriage. Read Genesis 2:24-25 says they cleave to become 1 and they were Unclad; understand the mystery that devil wants u to keep denying for the rest of their life). devil has deceived so many by trivializing Sex. Sex is grossly spirirual, whether you are a guy or girl, the person u give acess to your Private Part can easily destroy your life permanently. Sex is the worst weapon that devil is using to destroy wonderful youths with Glorious Destiny in this End Time. BE WISE

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Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Nobody: 7:42am On Aug 30, 2014
MissMeiya: Something is wrong with Nigeria. This is not normal.



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Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by EternalBeing: 7:42am On Aug 30, 2014
Remember that currently (through satan or GOD)only the genuinely spiritual amount to something great in this generation. GOD is still very much in the business of making people celebrities. Chronicles 16:9 says "The eyes of GOD runs to and fro the earth seeking those HE can" make celebrities; holiness is the price. GOD (as HE did with Ben Carlson, D. K. Olukoya, etc. making them great today and tomorrow in the hereafter) and satan (as he did with... u know who, promises them today but no tomorrow because he knows they'll end in hellfire); both are still seriously looking for souls. True Love is still very real despite the fact that the devil has wrongfully programmed a lot of people's mind to live like dogs having multiple partners under self-deceit that true love does not exist. Get the mystery in Gen 2:24-25; Have sex only with 1 person you've chosen to "marry" because Sex=Marriage, the ceremony is not the marriage, Sex is the Marriage . If you've had sex with multiple partners, u r guity of polygamy ask your Creator for forgiveness. Paul said for those that can't hold yourself... search for your soulmate, pray and start Sexing. Marriage is NOT the ceremony and gathering of people NO! Read Genesis 2:24-25 to understand the Spiritual Mystery that Sex=Marriage. Whether u r 18 or 30, choose just one and GOD will prosper d union if both of u stay faithful to each other for d rest of ur lives. GOD created sex for us as a covenant Sweet bond between 2 persons that have chosen to become 1 (Sex=Marriage. Read Genesis 2:24-25 says "they cleave to become 1 and they were Unclad" . Understand the mystery that devil wants u to keep denying for the rest of their life). devil has deceived so many by trivializing Sex. Sex is grossly spiritual, whether you are a guy or girl, the person u give acess to your Private Part can easily destroy your Life and Destiny permanently. Remember, there's no physical way to identify a demon infested witch/wizard in church or in club; that girl, that guy u r planning and craving to have sex with might just be one. So, totally give your Life to JESUS and pray HIM to guide you to your own wife/husband, and HE surely will. Sex is the worst weapon that devil is using to destroy wonderful youths with Glorious Destiny in this End Time. BE WISE!

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Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Abbey2sam(m): 7:43am On Aug 30, 2014
badpeople: Hmmm Nigerians with pretence, well firstly, this ia wrong thread for this post, u shld have post Christian or religion related thread, but Daniel, u ve not discovered urself, u have talent, all u need is a relationship wit a lady dat doesnt pretend so both of u can enjoy urself to d fullest, dis is a nature and u can't cheat nature, and d ladies dat respond to dis issue on dis thread are not helping issue, instead of arranging how to bleep dis guy to d core so dat he can feel relief, they kip giving fake advice, all of u shld remember this is romance section, if u ar here, then u ar here

Plain truth
I love people that say it bluntly...................

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Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Abbey2sam(m): 7:44am On Aug 30, 2014
jideomowunmi: I believe God just ministered to me thru u dis very minute...He speaks to us in ways we cannot even imagine....God will bless you..

now this is gullibility and naivety in action.........

Some people are just so naive

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Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Lovexme(m): 7:51am On Aug 30, 2014
Masturbation? I'll pass..

Never have, never will.
Re: The Fight Against Self-servicing, Lust And Sex.ual Immorality by Skykid1208(m): 7:52am On Aug 30, 2014
Thank God 4 ur life!!!

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