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Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by pickabeau1: 10:16pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
carefreewannabe: Do you..says the moniker advocating sympathy and not judging... |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by freecocoa(f): 10:16pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:let's not forget that's accidents can be avoided and if we are calling a spade a spade, let's do it here and now by saying that, the said woman played a part in this unfortunate incident (sounds harsh) but it's the truth. The death of a child can most certainly happen to anyone but it would be foolish and almost unforgivable to happen as a regards of something one has been forewarned about. |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by Nobody: 10:16pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
pickabeau1: Now you know how to quote me? Get lost! 3 Likes |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by Nobody: 10:18pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
freecocoa: let's not forget that's accidents can be avoided and if we are calling a spade a spade, let's do it here and now by saying that, the said woman played a part in this unfortunate incident (sounds harsh) but it's the truth. If we want to continue playing blame games, then let's ask ourselves why the father didn't tell the woman to go but to leave the child with him? 2 Likes |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by pickabeau1: 10:19pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
t carefreewannabe:get lost also... |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by freecocoa(f): 10:21pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
pickabeau1:Thats not the case here now is it? I'll play anyways. If her husband was against her going to a church at ajah, then I must say she ask him where he would rather she goes and why, then they can take it up from there. |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by Nobody: 10:23pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
pickabeau1: t I really have NO problem ignoring you. I have been doing it for a while now, in case you haven't noticed. So next time you have to say something to me, just call my name instead of sneaking. Did you talk to me? "Who knows..." Ridiculous! 4 Likes |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by freecocoa(f): 10:26pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:Seriously? So it's okay to outrightly ignore the advise/wishes of your partner even when he/she has good intentions? I don't know how old the kid is so I can't say, plus how do you know he didn't tell her but she refused? Just how do you think a woman like that would leave the miracle baby, which Btw, is the main reason for going to that church behind? |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by pickabeau1: 10:26pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
freecocoa: Thats not the case here now is it? I'll play anyways. It's just a scenario.......we already agree that accidents can happen anywhere... Say she asked and he says he doesn't want her to go...a lot of back n forth..family members are calledin..yet she persists in going there... what's your take |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by freecocoa(f): 10:30pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
pickabeau1:He cannot just not want her to go for no reason, especially if she was a church goer before they got married, I'm assuming we are talking of a reasonable/responsible man here. |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by Nobody: 10:31pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
freecocoa: Seriously? So it's okay to outrightly ignore the advise/wishes of your partner even when he/she has good intentions? Even a married woman can decide for herself and choose which church she wants to go to. You don'T have to follow EVERY wish / advice of your spouse. I don't know how old the kid is so I can't say, plus how do you know he didn't tell her but she refused? We don't know it and we don't know many other things. The story is being told by a third party. This is reason enough to be careful with passing judgements on a woman who has lost her family. Just how do you think a woman like that would leave the miracle baby, which Btw, is the main reason for going to that church behind? Do we know it? I didn't. Sorry, if I missed something. Like I said, I understand the husband but I am not going to pass a sentence on someone who is in such a situation. That's not me. She is already paying for her mistakes. |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by pickabeau1: 10:32pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
carefreewannabe: Then keep your counsel and keep ignoring....at least ur sympathy will have sounded believable...u can't hide your aggressive instincts .it must always bubble forth.... Ridiculous... 2 Likes |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by Nobody: 10:33pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
pickabeau1: I am not even trying to hide them. Not yet noticed? And I have no compassion for snakes like you. 3 Likes |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by Nobody: 10:34pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
cococandy:according to that post: what do our women want? They want to wear wigs and hair extensions just to look like a white lady. They want men to give them the mantle of leadership when they contribute only little to the development of this world. They want to act like men but when called upon, only a few show up and still make a mess of it(we appreciate the few female soldiers which are the ones men love to rub shoulders with, unlike the lazy bums who want the world on a silver platter). When men put these women in their rightful place, they scream, claiming the men are afraid of losing leadership. When we ask them why we should consider them, they give nothing reasonable other than both sex are equal. Ok, let's clear 2 plots of bushy land and see who finishes first. They throw in the weaker sex card. Ok, let the stronger sex rule. Never! Men don't want to be like women but women of today won't mind killing just to be a man. Men respect and cherish intelligent and creative women but hate lazy bums who can't innovate nor invent but want to be respected like einstein. How can you be allowed to sit at the table of men when you've got nothing to contribute? Equal rights is heavily practiced here in nigeria, but gender equality, No! Why? It's silly! Can a man get pregnant? No! Can a woman impregnate another? No! We are different and beautifully made for each other but not equal. Men are hard-hearted; women are soft, sensitive and emotional. When a man's hard-heartedness is about to lure him to destruction, a woman's softness calms him down. When a woman's softness and emotions are about leading her to destruction, a man's shrewdness and hardness sets her on the right part. 2 Likes |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by pickabeau1: 10:42pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
freecocoa: He cannot just not want her to go for no reason, especially if she was a church goer before they got married, I'm assuming we are talking of a reasonable/responsible man here. Ok..the problem here here is that you can't imagine that this kind of problems occurs so much in middle aged couples where the woman see some pastor or church as a place of reference neglecting her hubby wishes. Some even go as far as labeling him as a devil who is behind the spiritual issues.. these issues are common... carefreewannabe: Says the cobra Who must always strike. Why she does it..she does not even know |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by TV01(m): 10:44pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
Stillfire: Submission ko, sobolation ni. This has nothing to do with submission abeg but the mental IQ of the wife. The woman must be a person of low mental assimilation to not have weighed the consequences and detected the rationale behind her partner informing her of the risks and endangerment she places herself. When they tell you people to marry intelligent wives, una no go gree. Someone, anyone - I'm interested, why is that when a woman does something wrong the stock responses are 1. It's societies fault for pressuring her or; 2. She must be mad/deranged/psychotic/bi-polar/provoked beyond measure. But responsibility is never in view? And it's always women, usually avowed feminists? Willing to denigrate other women or throw them to the wolves, rather that to take the responsibility that's twinned with the equality they supposedly demand? Kindly let me know if there are any "policies" in force that prevent a response to this question! TV |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by cococandy(f): 10:48pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
equality and sameness are entirely two different things. it's very easy but apparently too hard for some of you to get. and pls stop hyperventilating. don't you have a headache already? i just dey feel for you TribalEAST: according to that post: what do our women want? They want to wear wigs and hair extensions just to look like a white lady. They want men to give them the mantle of leadership when they contribute only little to the development of this world. They want to act like men but when called upon, only a few show up and still make a mess of it(we appreciate the few female soldiers which are the ones men love to rub shoulders with, unlike the lazy bums who want the world on a silver platter). When men put these women in their rightful place, they scream, claiming the men are afraid of losing leadership. When we ask them why we should consider them, they give nothing reasonable other than both sex are equal. Ok, let's clear 2 plots of bushy land and see who finishes first. They throw in the weaker sex card. Ok, let the stronger sex rule. Never! Men don't want to be like women but women of today won't mind killing just to be a man. Men respect and cherish intelligent and creative women but hate lazy bums who can't innovate nor invent but want to be respected like einstein. How can you be allowed to sit at the table of men when you've got nothing to contribute? Equal rights is heavily practiced here in nigeria, but gender equality, No! Why? It's silly! Can a man get pregnant? No! Can a woman impregnate another? No! We are different and beautifully made for each other but not equal. Men are hard-hearted; women are soft, sensitive and emotional. When a man's hard-heartedness is about to lure him to destruction, a woman's softness calms him down. When a woman's softness and emotions are about leading her to destruction, a man's shrewdness and hardness sets her on the right part. 3 Likes |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by sevantex(m): 10:54pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
Abeg o..,winners nor get kefty branch for lekki ni??..,they got branches everywia naa to have undertaken such journey every sunday. As for d situation on ground..,I tink d marriage is over already..,But then,the man shuld just lockup nd be there for her till she recovers..,He shuld bear it and ignore d loss/pains and just takia of d wife in dis trying period..,Warefa dt hapens after d recovery tho shuld be handled maturedly by both parties as divorce is written all over dis ish...,Loose/Loose situation sha..,Feel sori for dem! |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by Nobody: 10:54pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
TribalEAST: yes, it could have happened anywhere but it happened while she was going to where he warned her about going. You see what we keep telling you feminists about lack of submission which has cost the woman her son and her legs? Eve was not submissive to Adam, she ate the fruit without his consent. Adam had every right to abandon her the instance he noticed it but he stupidly played along with her cos he was afraid that God destroying Eve would see him returning to his lonely state forgetting the fact that God who created him from the dust and Eve from him still had the power to create another woman for him. The man in this case can't be blamed for whatever action he takes even if he decides to divorce her(I pray he forgives her though). Such a woman might not have learnt her lesson cos the spirit of stubbornness, gullibility and pastor worship is vested in her as if it was the church's building and not God that gave her the child. Cococandy sambarry andromida bananabender and the rest feminist, una no dey use eye see this kain thread o! Na ignore tinz This has nothing to do with feminism. Come to think of it, why didn't she leave the baby at home with his/her daddy? The husband is probably one of those men that believe taking care of his own child will make him less of a man. 2 Likes |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by Nobody: 10:55pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
cococandy: equality and sameness are entirely two different things.do you mean gender equality or equal rights? If it is gender equality, that's trash. If it is equal rights, what is the equality you are fighting for that hasn't been achieved? Abi una no dey go sch and vote again? Pls stop using that line in your last paragraph on me again- it doesn't work cos guys now find it boring. I thought I told you on another thread. |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by Nobody: 11:00pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
BananaBender:look at the angle a feminist is viewing from- she should have left the baby at home with the man and still go ahead with her stubbornness. Looking for a way to blame the man/men. Mtchew! Well, that would have been better cos the man would still have his son alive and can marry someone else cos his stubborn wife his becoming crippled 1 Like |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by freecocoa(f): 11:00pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:So now people can get to do whatever the want in a relationship/marriage regardless of how it affects their partners, okay. |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by TV01(m): 11:01pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
alutacontinua:Let me get this right; first you write an epistle, then you agree with me. I'm feeling faint - need to lie down ! alutacontinua:And your point is? Does God not lead? How many does it take? alutacontinua:Again, you are reading me backwards. The life and the preaching are not just in the weekly message, it's daily and experiential. alutacontinua:Please stop ! alutacontinua:Spiritual nourishment? I can see we have shall we say, different perspectives. But even taking your point, someone mentioned we are in the digital age no? alutacontinua:And pray tell, what did Paul say to them about venerating men? And it was the church at Corinth - a congregation of Corinthians - not "travellers to fellowship" from Colosse ! And I'm simply seeing I don't see that narrative in scripture. Do I know them to criticize them? The outworkings are clear for all to see - and I don;t mean this particular instance - but this type of "church". alutacontinua:Story. That attitude comes from what people are taught. What those kind of churches model, with concepts like spiritual daddy, MOG authority, being fed and the like being taken to extremes - not that they are necessarily right in the first instance. The Ethiopian whop Phillip preached to. The first in his country. Did he return to where he met Philip or to sit at Philips feet every week to be spiritually fed? Yet the Church in Ethoipia grew from that un-followed up convert? This discussion pains me. alutacontinua:I believe I've answered this with the above alutacontinua:Maybe, but I not sure it's for the same reasons. May God be with us all. TV |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by Nobody: 11:06pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
BananaBender:what does he know about diapers changing? Ok, that's cheap. What does he know about breast feeding a child when he's hungry? Ok he should chest feed! Maybe he should as well consider carrying the next pregnancy. You feminists just don't want to admit that we are built for different purposes. |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by freecocoa(f): 11:06pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
pickabeau1:In this post you gave a reason(she sees the church/pastor as a place of reference ignoring her husband's wishes)this is a reason atleast to the hubby, he feels ignored so he wants her to quit the church, they can talk about it and reach a solution. In the other post, you gave no reason. |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by pickabeau1: 11:17pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
freecocoa: In this post you gave a reason(she sees the church/pastor as a place of reference ignoring her husband's wishes)this is a reason atleast to the hubby, he feels ignored so he wants her to quit the church, they can talk about it and reach a solution. I felt the same reason sufficed... You've not answered my q on how some women can take this spirituality thing far Some have been known to call their husband spiritual blockers or hindrance to prayers |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by freecocoa(f): 11:20pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
pickabeau1:I'm not really a religious person so trust me when I say, it's best you don't ask my opinion on such. |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by Bigsteveg(m): 11:22pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
alutacontinua:Baba Adeboye of Reedem will tell you they are bringing the church closer to you. The church will be closer to you so you don't have any excuse. For me, the distance is too much, from lagos state to ogun state. Common sense should even tell the woman is not right, you can go for their monthly programme or conventions. Are there no winners church closer or in lagos state again. For me, the man will still need to forgive the wife, the man is just hurt and who won't, apart from the fact that the woman was stubborn headed, that baby took them 5 yrs to have, they are not getting any younger. Forgive and forget, though the scar will be there for life. He still need to forgive. |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by pickabeau1: 11:22pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
freecocoa: I'm not really a religious person so trust me when I say, it's best you don't ask my opinion on such. OK. Fair enough... As I said earlier..we r seeing this issue from different angles. |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by Bigsteveg(m): 11:27pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
damiso:They have branches, and what's the problem with with us Christians, which one is winners, redeem, baptist, catholic...no wonder Christianity is not moving forward. Tell me a verse in the bible that Jesus made mention of a denomination or what can I call it? So the God of winners is diff from God of Christ Life Church |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by Bigsteveg(m): 11:28pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
Nashville:So the God she worship only exist at Ota? And can't be found in all other churches in lagos state. |
Re: Was The Woman Wrong Or Is The Man Being Overly Insensitive by Nobody: 11:31pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:I don't know this couple, I probably never will. No amount of sorries from me will they hear nor will said sorries restore their losses. What my post could achieve though is correct one pastor-worshipping spouse and probably set them on the path of common sense and marital harmony. There are women on here going against their husbands pleas and advice who might not end up losing their children or limbs but their husband's affection. Let's be objective. If she had submitted to her spouses authority over her the loss would have been easier to bear. Good luck to her flushing resentment out of his heart. Whether we like it or not, he's going to directly link the loss of his child to her disobedience. Hopefully, someone else would learn. 2 Likes |
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