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Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by smartmom(f): 9:20am On Oct 23, 2014
lonelydora:
Discipline. This is the way I discipline my child. After flogging.

Warning: do not call me names for doing this......you will surely not like my response.

This is a joke abi? Where was his mom when you had this picture taken?
Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by darnley16(m): 9:22am On Oct 23, 2014
Alexsmith20:
As an african man i believe in the adage which say "flog him once and he would flee twice".

but thats not how my wife sees it,she is always keen on pampering the kids base on the facts that she was born and brought up in the states and was not subjected to such method of discipline.

So my question is, is beating a form of ABUSE or DISCIPLINE?
look at it this way, an average Nigerian comes from an Averge home, An averge Religious home that encourges Beating,flogging etc, that is what makes them the average Nigerians we have today most of them become the strong headed street boys you see today, now take a toll in talking one of these street boys, reverse time, take him as your own , train him not with beatings, but with other less copral methods, like restricting his gadgets, holding on to his tv, grounding him, so he learns his lessons, now do you think he would still grow up to be a strong headed street boy! Think about it bro, or you can still follow the bible that actually supports slavery!

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Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by smartmom(f): 9:22am On Oct 23, 2014
Below is a whole section dedicated to this spanking issue. Its definitely an intricate issue and capable of making, breaking or marring an individual. Please let us treat it with care:

http://nigerianparentsforum.com/index.php/spanking
Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by Dlee1(m): 9:25am On Oct 23, 2014
Don't flog your kids even for once and one day you will end up being flogged or abused by your kids when they grow up.

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Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by darnley16(m): 9:26am On Oct 23, 2014
Ojestas:
flog yeye outta them. An average Nigerian kid can't escape this. But don't flog them too much,, complement the floggin with "Riding Invisible/imaginary bicycle". .Won ma keko!!
obviously a Yoruba man
Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by benELOHIM7(m): 9:32am On Oct 23, 2014
i said it, black people wrote the bible
bunmioguns:
Proverbs 22:15


New International Version
Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far away.

New Living Translation
A youngster's heart is filled with foolishness, but physical discipline will drive it far away.

English Standard Version
Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline drives it far from him.

New American Standard Bible
Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child; The rod of discipline will remove it far from him.

King James Bible
Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.
Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by darnley16(m): 9:33am On Oct 23, 2014
lawrenceunaa:
Both abuse. and discipline depending on ur location grin grin cheesy
true talk
Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by Ojestas(m): 9:34am On Oct 23, 2014
darnley16:
obviously a Yoruba man
definitely. grin
Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by Edusouls(m): 9:36am On Oct 23, 2014
We were beaten by the kane by our father but to an extent, it is gud that way it made us inculcate discipline early, and we grew into adults being outsanding in behaviour and vry useful to the society, not beating a child pampers him or her, and that's why you see many modern kids of nowadays behave awfuly without respect and manners, and they spoil easily because most parents of nowadays re already a very bad example, they have extra-marital affairs so openely that their kids even watch, most go out to look for money and dont even have time for their kids. and modern parents train their kids with television,bb africa, worthless nollywood movies, mtv base, getting smartphone for them at an early age, something that exposes them to the internet and pornography at an early age and channel 0..my dad started educating us at an early age, we watch documentaries and educative plays, interesting drama's, we watch children movies, he teaches us mathematics and english during spare times, during holidays we play together with our age mates, we played games, football, i never knew what it was to start liking and chyking a girl till when i was 23. Kids of nowadays start keeping relationship's and engage in adult act, at age 12,13 that's why i call them ignorant parents and end time kids...

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Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by tartar9(m): 9:37am On Oct 23, 2014
to discipline ke,the children are usually beaten out of anger.
Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by adedayourt(m): 9:42am On Oct 23, 2014
Beating = Discipline

Excessive Beating = Abuse

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Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by Nobody: 9:43am On Oct 23, 2014
If you must flog, make sure your action is justifiable and make sure you give him/her the reason why he/she got such punishment.If you always flog at the slightest oppurtunity, you'll only give the impression that you did that because you are transfering aggression on some one smaller and weaker or just because that's the only way you get things done. That's how people turn into bullies and become a public nuisance and you as the parent will get the final blow. One more thing- Never ever flog a teenager. There are other ways you can instill discipline without being violent. Some parents won't dare flog their teenage sons but have no problem beating their teenage daughters- such parents are only asking for trouble.

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Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by dhabeautyjas(f): 9:47am On Oct 23, 2014
Personally, i believe too much of everything is bad. i will beat my child when necessary, talk when necessary and above all shower them with so much love and make them my best friend all at the same time. that will bring the best out in them.

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Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by tete7000(m): 9:51am On Oct 23, 2014
Peterken05:
it is pure abuse, why would inflict pain on your child and be happy about it. Thats psycho. Most people beat their children because the holy books say so.

My brother pain is part of life. We can't live in this life without undergoing one pain or the other. When pain is paired with a stimuli, you get a properly conditioned response. When a child recognises doing a particular stupid action, brings him/her pain then the child learns to avoid such stupid action. That's the logic behind discipline and reward. You punish (inflict pain on the offender for) wrong behaviours while you reward good behaviour.
Why should anyone be afraid to inflict pain on a silly and recalcitrant child. The bible says 'in the heart of a child is stored up folly, it's the rod of correction that drives it away'. Beat your child while he/she can still take correction or you spend your old age regretting when they won't mind inflicting on you the pain you are afraid of inflicting on them now.
Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by lordbaron: 9:59am On Oct 23, 2014
Ohhh bullshit dad can't I just have my own space u are disturbing ma privacy I will call de cops for u bomb dats all u can get from not beating de hell out of ur child when he or she is young in some cases beating is not effective like ma mum use to do if I come home late she won't talk to me for weeks and I will be dying inside
But will never forget de important bi received for my misconduct so believ me sincerly I will flog my kids blue and black if stupidity tries to take over dem once in a while to correct dia senses
Or peter u are grounded excuse me u bluffing nigga aint no shit like grounding some one in africa or no money no phone dey can go out hustle or borrow money from dia friends to buy it and don't ever touch it dat time cos dey will Bleep u up dat moment take it or leave it
Koboko has don a lot in de lives of nigerian kid peace
Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by fadjnr(m): 10:04am On Oct 23, 2014
there are other ways to discipline a child rather than beating the child. when I wan growing up a simple face the wall, pick pin, or ride okada for just 1 hour was enough to bring my head back to normal. I don't subscribe to hitting a child just to instill discipline.
Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by Nobody: 10:12am On Oct 23, 2014
omo.... My mumcie floged madness out of me. At every wrong, it was either a knock on d head, a pull of the ear or the breaking of canes on my body and what can i say I dont hate her, I even love her more cos all that has really set me right..... Without it, i would be a nuisance..... Thanks mom for all the love showed in every stroke, knock, and ear stretch...... It was all worth it.... Xoxoxox

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Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by MovingMax: 10:14am On Oct 23, 2014
Peterken05:
it is pure abuse, why would inflict pain on your child and be happy about it. Thats psycho. Most people beat their children because the holy books say so.
. Bros, ar u against the teachings in the holy books.Our problem is, we are confuse on which culture to raise our children. Some people that believe in western culture while abode in Nigeria will say is wrong to beat a child.spare the rod and spoil ur child. Pls beating the child when he\she do wrong & living examplary live worthy of emulation by ur children is the best way of raising a child. Do not swallow hook,line & sinker the western child right act because its paining them now
Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by Nobody: 10:23am On Oct 23, 2014
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Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by deltateam: 10:23am On Oct 23, 2014
Alexsmith20:
As an african man i believe in the adage which say "flog him once and he would flee twice".

but thats not how my wife sees it,she is always keen on pampering the kids base on the facts that she was born and brought up in the states and was not subjected to such method of discipline.

So my question is, is beating a form of ABUSE or DISCIPLINE?

Op so because your wife was brought up in the states you are now doubting your roots, your beliefs including your manhood?

Spare the rod and spoil the child is still valid but ensure the child did wrong and ensure it knows the reasons for it.
Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by MadCow1: 10:33am On Oct 23, 2014

For all floggers on the thread, I wouldnt fault your technique, but I would add and say this:: Alway make sure you talk to your kids after flogging them and be Candid in that converstaion.. Dont use the same techniques too often lest it loses its efficacy over repitition and time. And dont ever flog your child in Anger as you may cause more damage than intended and worse still irreparable damage. Also note that flogging actually breeds fear than anything else and a child who is afriad of their parents are the ones more likely to get close to outsiders who may lead them astray.

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Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by anthoniaz(f): 10:41am On Oct 23, 2014
kITATITA:
I don't beat my children and they are wonderful, well behaved children. You start training them the day they are born. Talk, teach, mould their character and be a role model. Flogging instils fear and warped personality . It doesn't always work out fine.
Maybe it's the way you brought them up.It's good to instil that fear in some of these children.My neighbour's children are so wild and rude because the only thing you hear the parents saying is "I will beat o" nothing more.You go to their house, you see the two kids(5 & 2yrs) jumping from one chair to the other, if their mum tell them to stop, the answer is "no".They even do it in presence of visitors, changing channels whenever they like and their dad is in the sitting room watching TV with their visitor, atimes you hear them telling their mum that her mouth is smelling and she will be laughing.When they are brought to my house they behave like saints because I don't tolerate their rubbish but once they see their mum, their wings will come out, that is when they would spoil one thing or the other in my room, touch things I'm making for my customers, jump on my bed.Whereas, I have visited their mum's friend who happens to be a kinda adviser to me, I was surprised, the kids (three of them) were in the sitting room, I never heard any noise till I, my neighbour and another guy left that house.

It's good to discipline children else they will turn out to be something you didn't bargain for, the youngest amongst my siblings is an example and my parents are seeing it now, a kid does something wrong, misbehaves, you won't flog him simply because he's the last child, when he becomes rude and disobedient, you start blaming the devil.
Flogging isn't the only way to correct a child though but sometimes, it'sthe most efficient.
Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by Cenken(m): 10:44am On Oct 23, 2014
mirexxx:
the rod doesn't mean flogging alone na, there r oda ways u can discipline a child. if am grounded 4 an hour,without my gadgets n locked in my room chaii i give up on dat strong head o. beating kids sha. dey dont 4get it o and might hate u sef
Are u for real?
Gagnets ni
I wonder how I would have turned out if my mum had told me "hey! Go to ur room nd lock urself up, no video game for u 4 d next 1 hour" after committing an offence.
Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by Sagamite(m): 10:44am On Oct 23, 2014
iconize:


STFU, you don't have kids! grin grin grin grin

Has your fagggot biatch delivered a baby? grin grin

A fagggot m_oron talking about kids. grin grin

Isn't this your fagggot biatch professing love to you? grin


Why are you showing us a member of your homosexual community? grin grin grin grin grin
Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by Baawaa(m): 10:45am On Oct 23, 2014
bunmioguns:
Proverbs 22:15


New International Version
Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far away.

New Living Translation
A youngster's heart is filled with foolishness, but physical discipline will drive it far away.

English Standard Version
Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline drives it far from him.

New American Standard Bible
Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child; The rod of discipline will remove it far from him.

King James Bible
Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.
Bible is very complete,there is another verse that says parent that ceased to discipline their children did not love them
Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by xtophy(m): 10:47am On Oct 23, 2014
bunmioguns:
Proverbs 22:15


New International Version
Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far away.

New Living Translation
A youngster's heart is filled with foolishness, but physical discipline will drive it far away.

English Standard Version
Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline drives it far from him.

New American Standard Bible
Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child; The rod of discipline will remove it far from him.

King James Bible
Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.
okay.. na even rod of discipline not rod of pankeere....honestly, cane pains especially in the harmattan... a minor talk though
Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by Cenken(m): 10:48am On Oct 23, 2014
kITATITA:
I don't beat my children and they are wonderful, well behaved children. You start training them the day they are born. Talk, teach, mould their character and be a role model. Flogging instils fear and warped personality . It doesn't always work out fine.
How old are your children please?
Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by Gbaskybabe(f): 10:49am On Oct 23, 2014
when a child does something wrong and you say "hay leave that place" the child has the tendency of going back there because there was nothing to back up the shouting.but a little spanking will remind the child that you mean business when you said she should leave the place
Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by Nobody: 10:54am On Oct 23, 2014
Great comments @Madcow1.
Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by acada111(f): 10:55am On Oct 23, 2014
If my mama no beat me...... lipsrsealed God alone knows what I would have become. I'm a babe, but my level of stubbornness then ehn cheesy. In fact na fight, no be normal flogging. Mum'll leave you till you're asleep at night, na then the film go start.
I used to hate her then sha but now, I look back and say thanks a million mum kiss

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Re: BEATING YOUR KIDS; Discipline Or Abuse? by Baawaa(m): 10:55am On Oct 23, 2014
ShoryuKen:
This flogging thing is a serious case of child abuse. I've heard Nigerian parents say: "na me born you, I go kill you, nobody fit ask me question!!!". These maltreatments leave permanent psychological scars in these kids. When these same treated-like-beasts kids turn adults, they are the ones who show no conscience, or remorse genes when the loot/plunder – in private/public offices, relationships, etc.

In my opinion, a lot of people are only masquerading as parents in Africa/Nigeria – they are noting but evil guardians. If there were functional social service departments, a lot of these kids would be take from them. They justify this evil maltreatments as tradition/tribe/religion, to torment and scar these kids, and these kids grow up to be adults and in turn scar their own kids – thinking it's right – it ends up being a vicious cycle, which is labelled strictness or good parenting – it's horrible!
Africans from heuristics, are innately savage/uncouth, its in our genes/upbringing to show raw brute force, we've equated it with being the model human, and it's sad to see it being institutionalized in homes as a means to raise kids.

Some quote "spare the rod, and spoil the child" from the holy books to justify – in their evil minds – maltreating their kids. But, in the holy texts, the rod was also a tool to direct sheep, leading them with love and care in the fields – see shepherds in holy books, or one could cite Moses leading the Israelites – sheesh! Moses didn't whip the hell out of them with his "rod".

I'd like to see a day when one can report a beastly parent to the authorities in Nigeria, and have them taken to court – custody taken, or jailed in serious cases – for these grave bodily and psychological harm to kids. Sadly, that day is not yet here.

angry
How,i wish to see you one on one and talk sense to your brain.

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