Sophyrocks:


So comparing the number of people you have counselled to millions of others you have not, is that enough to conclude that most issues are as a result of unsubmissiveness?

Please, stop it already! Being noisy and aggressive is not what makes you intelligent! I just dont understand why you have distract us from the original purpose of this thread. Please stop, and go find yourself another way of feigning intelligence.

Thank you.

#At topic...I'm here to read comments....

carefreewannabe:


The role of the husband is to be there for his wife, to love, respect and support her and the role of the wife is to be there for her husband, to love, respect and support him. They should be each other's biggest fans and most sincere critics. They should also be like best friends.

could you by chance explain how the criticisms should come about?

blublahd:
could you by chance explain how the criticisms should come about?

In Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, English or Chinese, depends on the couple ...

crackhaus:

If after my earlier comment you still ended up typing the bold texts, then you're definitely still missing it by a long shot.

However, why did that woman agree to marry a man less intelligent than she is only to hold it against him after the wedding?
She didn't know he was less intelligent, no?

My understanding of marriage is obviously different from yours
If she knew that the man is so interested in her being submissive despite being less intelligent, and went ahead to marry him then she must ready to submit to even his most foolish decisions. I know some ladies would do that but real ladies won't, and I wouldn't encourage any woman to. A lady should be able to put her intelligence to use in making decisions in her home. Personally, I can never marry a dummy who can't make good mental contribution in our home or correct me when I am about to make wrong decisions.

Lateralmaths:
you will agree with me that disrespect is something most men can't live with.

Sure. But what i meant is that submission alone doesnt guarantee happy marraige. Most men desire more than mere respect/submission from their woman. To some, submission might just be what they want, while for others, submission alone aint enough.

Modified:

@lateralmaths, you can see that no two men are the same even from donpeey's post below

donpeey22:

Personally, I can never marry a dummy who can't make good mental contribution in our home or correct me when I am about to make wrong decisions.

carefreewannabe:


In Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, English or Chinese, depends on the couple ...

i believe we are conversing in english.....sincerely madam,in what manner would you do it?

blublahd:
i believe we are conversing in english.....sincerely madam,in what manner would you do it?

Partners should be comfortable discussing issues with each other even if it ends with the occasional row or what are you getting at?

blublahd:
i believe we are conversing in english.....sincerely madam,in what manner would you do it?

It's difficult to talk about it in abstract terms. We would have to have a specific scenario to describe it.

Sophyrocks:
A wife's greatest weapon? Are women now soldiers fighting imaginary wars? So if women have weapons do men have weapons too?

This is veeeeeerrry far from

sophyrocks: constructive criticism

Take note

Driven:



Please, stop it already! Being noisy and aggressive is not what makes you intelligent! I just dont understand why you have distract us from the original purpose of this thread. Please stop, and go find yourself another way of feigning intelligence.

Thank you.

#At topic...I'm here to read comments....

So asking questions is aggressive? I can see how far your intelligence has taken you. I am not addressing you but the Op. He was patient enough to answer my questions. So mind your business and answer the Op's question or you zip it! if you have nothing intelligent to contribute. Your attacking me isnt an intelligent move either. Hypocrite! The Op was more intelligent than you are.

Timbuktou:
This is veeeeeerrry far from
Take note

Is that your problem?

Sophyrocks:


You have not answered my question. How do you know that all issues in marriages are as a result of unsubmissiveness? Give proof. give surveys conducted on that.

So, if a mechanic said, "car tyres are to be well-gauged to avoid accidents", you'd ask "if all accidents are as a result of bad tyres". Is this another example of your legendary

sophyrocks: constructive criticism

, madam?

Sophyrocks:


Is that your problem?

I would appreciate it if you put in an effort to make sense, even if it might seem difficult. Thanks.

Timbuktou:
So, if a mechanic said, "car tyres are to be well-gauged to avoid accidents", you'd ask "if all accidents are as a result of bad tyres". Is this another example of your legendary
, madam?

......

Timbuktou:
I would appreciate it if you put in an effort to make sense, even if it might seem difficult. Thanks.

....

carefreewannabe:


It's difficult to talk about it in abstract terms. We would have to have a specific scenario to describe it.

take for example a man who spends alot to his family including extended family and distant relatives, he has now become like everyones safe deposit, just has a problem to say no....how do you intend to go about it before the inevitable happens?

donpeey22:
My understanding of marriage is obviously different from yours
If she knew that the man is so interested in her being submissive despite being less intelligent, and went ahead to marry him then she must ready to submit to even his most foolish decisions. I know some ladies would do that but real ladies won't, and I wouldn't encourage any woman to. A lady should be able to put her intelligence to use in making decisions in her home. Personally, I can never marry a dummy who can't make good mental contribution in our home or correct me when I am about to make wrong decisions.

Nice one.

2CatWoman:


Partners should be comfortable discussing issues with each other even if it ends with the occasional row

fair enough....

blublahd:
take for example a man who spends alot to his family including extended family and distant relatives, he has now become like everyones safe deposit, just has a problem to say no....how do you intend to go about it before the inevitable happens?

I will become the Finance Minister of the marriage institution.

You are asking me questions like I am a marriage counsellor when in fact I am very far from it.

However, what he does with his money is his business at the end of the day. I will have my money, he will have his money and we will hopefully equally contribute to the shared budget so when he meets his responsibilities, I have no right telling him what to do with the rest of the money.

donpeey22:
My understanding of marriage is obviously different from yours
If she knew that the man is so interested in her being submissive despite being less intelligent, and went ahead to marry him then she must ready to submit to even his most foolish decisions. I know some ladies would do that but real ladies won't, and I wouldn't encourage any woman to. A lady should be able to put her intelligence to use in making decisions in her home. Personally, I can never marry a dummy who can't make good mental contribution in our home or correct me when I am about to make wrong decisions.

You are actually typing a lot and saying nothing, whilst confusing yourself in the process.

Let's do a recap:
- First, you equated submission to intelligence and I corrected that by explaining what submission entails...you even said your understanding of it was about yielding and letting one partner lead.

- On your next response, you went back on the intelligence talk by stating that if you were a woman, you would not be submissive to a man less intelligent than you are - I subsequently asked you why a woman (who has a thing for intelligence) would marry a man less intelligent than she is in the first place.

- On this particular retort, you're now going on about your understanding being different...which is entirely off point as we're still talking on intelligence.

The point is this:
If intelligence is a prerequisite for submission (as this is your own understanding of marriage), then it's up to the woman to either marry a man she is more intelligent than to avoid submitting to him or marry a man who is more intelligent than she is and submit totally to him - can you see the direct result of your logic?


For more clarity on what submission entails, refer to my earlier explanation - it is not about who is more intelligent, neither is it about being a slave.

ArewaSweetheart:

@lateralmaths, you can see that no two men are the same even from donpeey's post below

Except that submission isn't about being a dummy.

crackhaus:

You are actually typing a lot and saying nothing, while confusing yourself in the process.

Let's do a recap:
- First, you equated submission to intelligence and I corrected that by explaining what submission entails...you even said your understanding of it was about yielding and letting one partner lead.

- On your next response, you went back on the intelligence talk by stating that if you were a woman, you would not be submissive to a man less intelligent than you are - I subsequently asked you why a woman (who has a thing for intelligence) would marry a man less intelligent than she is in the first place.

- On this particular retort, you're now going on about your understanding being different...which is entirely off point as we're still talking on intelligence.

The point is this:
If intelligence is a prerequisite for submission (as this is your own understanding of marriage), then it's up to the woman to either marry a man she is more intelligent than to avoid submitting to him or marry a man who is more intelligent than she is and submit totally to him - can you see the direct result of your logic?


For more clarity on what submission entails, refer to my earlier explanation - it is not about who is more intelligent, neither is it about being a slave.

I agree with you.

crackhaus:

Except that submission isn't about being a dummy.

true. submission is not foolishness.

carefreewannabe:


I will become the Finance Minister of the marriage institution.

You are asking me questions like I am a marriage counsellor when in fact I am very far from it.
better than that, you would become an intelligent wife that will match or outmatch her partner....who you wouldnt submit to.


However, what he does with his money is his business at the end of the day. I will have my money, he will have his money and we will hopefully equally contribute to the shared budget so when he meets his responsibilities, I have no right telling him what to do with the rest of the money.

what if it affects the financial stability of the family and invariably you are required to contribute more and more and more at which point he is now broke?

ArewaSweetheart:


Sure. But what i meant is that submission alone doesnt guarantee happy marraige. Most men desire more than mere respect/submission from their woman. To some, submission might just be what they want, while for others, submission alone aint enough.

Modified:

@lateralmaths, you can see that no two men are the same even from donpeey's post below

that's why the topic is a wife's greatest weapon. there are other weapons

carefreewannabe:


I will become the Finance Minister of the marriage institution.

You are asking me questions like I am a marriage counsellor when in fact I am very far from it.

However, what he does with his money is his business at the end of the day. I will have my money, he will have his money and we will hopefully equally contribute to the shared budget so when he meets his responsibilities, I have no right telling him what to do with the rest of the money.

what do you think is a husband's greatest desire from his wife?

Lateralmaths:
true. submission is not foolishness.

This has been made clear countless times on this board, but scoffers and Sadducees refuse to pay heed

Lateralmaths:
what do you think is a husband's greatest desire from his wife?

There is nothing like A husband! People are different and have different desires.

Lateralmaths:
that's why the topic is a wife's greatest weapon. there are other weapons

Well its obvious our views differ, but i'm still of the opinion that wisdom is the greatest weapon in the hierachy of weapons ; not submission.

blublahd:
what if it affects the financial stability of the family and invariably you are required to contribute more and more and more at which point he is now broke?

The possibility that I will marry this kind of a man does not exist.

ArewaSweetheart:


Well its obvious our views differ, but i'm still of the opinion that wisdom is the greatest weapon in the hierachy of weapons ; not submission.

Ok I get you now. Wisdom is the greatest because wisdom is the right application of other weapons. Without it other weapons could be misused.

carefreewannabe:


The possibility that I will marry this kind of a man does not exist.

why?