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Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by tociano009(m): 12:19pm On Mar 09, 2015
bilms:
GEJ 2015: BLESSING OR CURSE?

Yoruba Oba's don't bless someone by pointing their staff at the person. When a staff of an Oba is pointed at someone, that is a curse.

THIS IS HOW YORUBA OBA'S BLESS..SPOT THE DIFFERENCE.

SO, IT IS RIGHT TO SAY OBA'S HAVE CURSED GEJ?
shut your dirty mouth, what do yoi know about yoruba culture
Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by onegig(m): 12:20pm On Mar 09, 2015
There's a clear difference. More like a curse.

That's a walking stick. Look at the picture below. That's what an Opa ase or an Oba's staff of office looks like. It's like a totem. If it's not present in a function then the Oba is not present.

This is a new precedent honestly. Using the walking stick as a blessing is alien to yoruba culture. If an Oba wants to bless, it's either he uses the irukere which is the feathered handheld staff or stand the totem sbown in the picture and not walking stick we see here.

Pointing a walking stick at someone is even regarded as disrespectful in yoruba culture not to talk of using it to bless someone. (A walking stick is a fad in Yoruba Culture. It is not part of the paraphernalia of an oba. I guess its use was copied from colonialists. I can't recall reading any yoruba mythology where the walking stick was ever mentioned.)

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Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by IYANGBALI: 12:20pm On Mar 09, 2015
fkaz:
Jonathan is a desperate man
from anointed man of God to awon aye grin

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Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by IYANGBALI: 12:25pm On Mar 09, 2015
That thing is more of a walking stick to the obas,there is no way that what you use to touch the ground you will use to pray or bless someone,take it or leave it Yoruba obas ahlf finish baba peace,na only him go know how him body dey do am and wetin him dey see since dem scam am at ife,but thank God mama peace too no be ordinary woman grin

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Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by maestroferddi: 12:27pm On Mar 09, 2015
onlysuccess:
IM SURE THOSE ARE YORUBA KINGS, NO OFFENCE (IM A YORUBA GUY) BUT WE THE YORUBAss ARE FOND OF DECEIVING PEOPLE, CHECK THE DICTIONARY MEANING OF YORUBA IN A STANDARD DICTIONARY. THEY DID SAME FOR BABANGIDA AND EVEN ABACHA. SOMETIMES I FEEL ASHAMED TO BE CALLED YORUBA. WHY? THOSE KINGS KNEW GEJ IS A JOKE. HE HAS DONE MORE HARM THAN GOOD. HOW MUCH DID THAT LOOSER GAVE THEM TO STEP THIS LOW? OR U WANT TO TELL ME THERE ISN'T ANY EXCHANGE OF CASH?. YORUBA RONU...... let us Yoruba's learn to stand for truth. i have spoken...................
You are a disgrace to the Yoruba race.

So because of senseless allegiance to a political party built on smash and grab, distortion of facts and propaganda, you are stating that the Yorubas are insincere.

You are calling or insinuating that your tribe is a nation of Judases!

You and your ilk need deliverance badly!

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Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by Winning123: 12:28pm On Mar 09, 2015
omaiyale:
grin hahaha...

For me this is really disturbing and embarrassing. Jonathan is desecrating the office of the President. The scene looks occultist. A President is not only a political position but a spiritual one. That is the highest position in the land. It is higher than an Oba and even a clergy, if the occupant is a believer. He should be blessing people not him seeking for blessing all over the place.

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Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by otemanuduno: 12:29pm On Mar 09, 2015
mulattoclaro:
it's better living in Mars than being on earth with a numb skull like you.

So what doeth thou still on earth? get the rocket and go live ur lyfe in the mars. MARS NEEDS dunce YOU!!!
Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by cricifixo: 12:29pm On Mar 09, 2015
it is not "HAS" but ''as''
gen2briz:
See has him sit down like dummy dey receive curse untop him desperate
urge for power.

But GEJ has to press for full refund.. FFK should explain the meaning of
what the oba's did to him.

This na pure scam
Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by wonlasewonimi: 12:30pm On Mar 09, 2015
I have never seen a president being used as a doormat as this one. The duncee has knelt everywhere.

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Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by Nobody: 12:32pm On Mar 09, 2015
Yes! That is exactly what the are. Most Obas don't criticize the ruling Government openly, they just collect money and do whatever they like. Jonathan has lost his investments ($$$) on these guys, because they would do whatever they feel like, which might mean doing NOTHING for Jonathan's re-election campaign.

Phrankin:
So what you are saying in effect is that the obas are cowards and backstabbers who can't look someone in the face and tell them their mind. Instead they hide behind symbolic gestures while pretending to be your friend.

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Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by Themandator: 12:32pm On Mar 09, 2015
Consolation is what op is doing... Jonathan did not go there without prior Intel and many prominent yoruba more knowledgeable went with him.


The Oni ask the Obas to pray for his success and they obliged to
Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by thunder74(m): 12:33pm On Mar 09, 2015
bilms:
GEJ 2015: BLESSING OR CURSE?

Yoruba Oba's don't bless someone by pointing their staff at the person. When a staff of an Oba is pointed at someone, that is a curse.

THIS IS HOW YORUBA OBA'S BLESS..SPOT THE DIFFERENCE.

SO, IT IS RIGHT TO SAY OBA'S HAVE CURSED GEJ?
Op, please go and research further. They can't use the horse tails on the head of the nation that is superior to them but their staff of office. The Obas use irukere (horse tail) to touch their subjects head. The president is not a common man. They dare not use it on him but their Opa Ase (the symbols of office) which is higher than the irukere.
Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by Kingsasian(m): 12:37pm On Mar 09, 2015
gen2briz:
See has him sit down like dummy dey receive curse untop him desperate
urge for power.

But GEJ has to press for full refund.. FFK should explain the meaning of
what the oba's did to him.

This na pure scam
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. What will I not see in naija? Lwkmd
Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by OrlandoOwoh(m): 12:38pm On Mar 09, 2015
Ahmeduana:

THEM YOU ARE IN POSITION TO TELL US WHAT IS AT PLAY, BECAUSE JONATHAN UNDERSTAND YORUBA, AND HE CAN DIFFERENTIATE A BLESSING FROM A CAUSE, AND MORE OVER IS NOT ONLY JONATHAN THAN IS THERE HIS CHIEF OF STAFF, IS PERSONAL ASSISTANCE HIS SPOKE PERSON AND JOURNALISTS ALL OF THEM ARE PRESENT. BY THE WAY DID YOU THINK EVERYBODY MINDS ARE ROTTEN?
I doubt he understands any other Yoruba word apart from "ole". Even if he does, if those pointing staffs use Ife dialect, he won't understand anything.

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Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by iiiyyyk(m): 12:38pm On Mar 09, 2015
omenka:
Hehehe.

Everybody's been making a fool of this man since the days of yore.

Now the Wise Men have taken their own turn cursing him while he pays them handsomely for their curses.

Jona has boarded the proverbial "one chance" bus in the SW. His fate in that region is sealed.

So is it in the entire north.

Let's sit back and watch how he gets re-elected using only votes from the SE. cheesy

My guy no worry, SE vote is divided. Gej will recieve shocker of his life by march 28.
By the time he his coming back in his next life, he will come back with two things ,, shoe and wisdom.

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Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by thunder74(m): 12:39pm On Mar 09, 2015
IYANGBALI:
That thing is more of a walking stick to the obas,there is no way that what you use to touch the ground you will use to pray or bless someone,take it or leave it Yoruba obas ahlf finish baba peace,na only him go know how him body dey do am and wetin him dey see since dem scam am at ife,but thank God mama peace too no be ordinary woman grin
What did Moses turned to snake and used to swallow Pharaoh's snakes? What was used to part the red Sea? What was used to bring water from the rock? It not the stick that does the wonder but the power in the stick.
Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by Kingsasian(m): 12:41pm On Mar 09, 2015
OgaTheTop2:
This one na sure curse. NA so Jonathan go dey patronize churches, patronize traditional rulers, patronize voodoo worshipers, patronize pastors! Na wa o. Too much of everything is BAD . This is surely a curse undecided
he don over patronise everywhere so tey he cnt differentiate blessings from curses. All he knws is just to say Amen, ese e, ise ee and amin to anybody he visits.lol

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Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by Perceptor(m): 12:41pm On Mar 09, 2015
Babyboy1986:
shocked :oChai too bad oo.. shocked shocked



But the blessing of God is more than the belessing of man.
Too bad he didnt get d blessing of God as well as that of man!
Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by oshiosense(m): 12:42pm On Mar 09, 2015
Ogboni sticks
Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by seunmsg(m): 12:43pm On Mar 09, 2015
thunder74:

Op, please go and research further. They can't use the horse tails on the head of the nation that is superior to them but their staff of office. The Obas use irukere (horse tail) to touch their subjects head. The president is not a common man. They dare not use it on him but their Opa Ase (the symbols of office) which is higher than the irukere.

What was pointed at GEJ is the walking stick (opa itile) and not opa ase (staff of office). And beside, no matter who you are, an oba can pray for you with the horse tail. Praying with a walking stick is alien to yoruba culture. Though, I don't know the implications of what they have done so I won't go all out to label it a curse.

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Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by HOTWATER(m): 12:45pm On Mar 09, 2015
Because of politics some youths are calling the royal fathers fraudsters. Hmmmmm, Please do not come to defend the sanctity of their offices in other threads. A real man should say what he means and stand by it. Could those that call the Yorubas saboteurs and pretenders be right ?
Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by maestroferddi: 12:45pm On Mar 09, 2015
This reverse psychology APC and her supporters are deploying is dead on arrival.

We know that APC is mortally rankled by the unequivocal endorsement of Jonathan by the generality of Yoruba traditional institutions.

APC have been shouting themselves hoarse in the media platforms under their control. They have been lambasting the Obas - calling them sellouts and other unprintable names.

We are not buying this infantile and cheap propaganda which is trying to impute negativity to an unprecedented gesture.

APC cry us River Sango!
Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by IYANGBALI: 12:46pm On Mar 09, 2015
thunder74:

What did Moses turned to snake and used to swallow Pharaoh's snakes? What was used to part the red Sea? What was used to bring water from the rock? It not the stick that does the wonder but the power in the stick.
dey there dey compare Moses stick with those of these evil people,moreover Moses was picked by God and not by man like all these fetish Obas. Man mi shine your eye forget bible and face reality of life
Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by Ilekeh(f): 12:49pm On Mar 09, 2015
gen2briz:
See has him sit down like dummy dey receive curse untop him desperate
urge for power.

But GEJ has to press for full refund.. FFK should explain the meaning of
what the oba's did to him.

This na pure scam

Lmaoooo grin
Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by connerstone(m): 12:49pm On Mar 09, 2015
Jona is in troble
Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by onatisi(m): 12:50pm On Mar 09, 2015
thunder74:

Op, please go and research further. They can't use the horse tails on the head of the nation that is superior to them but their staff of office. The Obas use irukere (horse tail) to touch their subjects head. The president is not a common man. They dare not use it on him but their Opa Ase (the symbols of office) which is higher than the irukere.
God bless u one million times for this comment. I have said it many times that apc supporters are dumber than buhari cows in his farm. It is just pointless and worthless arguing with them. The only two language and words in their brains is shout change like a bus conductor or sai baba like a cattle rearer .

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Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by OrlandoOwoh(m): 12:51pm On Mar 09, 2015
Themandator:
Consolation is what op is doing... Jonathan did not go there without prior Intel and many prominent yoruba more knowledgeable went with him.


The Oni ask the Obas to pray for his success and they obliged to
Were you at the meeting before meeting before the arrival of Jonathan?
Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by tuyi19: 12:54pm On Mar 09, 2015
Ahmeduana:

MR MAN DID YOU KNOW WHAT IS CALLED opa ashe IN YORUBA LAND?

Your comment seems clueless like GEJ himself, is that OPA ASE or their working stick. that is not thair staff of office.
Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by fkaz(m): 12:57pm On Mar 09, 2015
thunder74:

Op, please go and research further. They can't use the horse tails on the head of the nation that is superior to them but their staff of office. The Obas use irukere (horse tail) to touch their subjects head. The president is not a common man. They dare not use it on him but their Opa Ase (the symbols of office) which is higher than the irukere.

Is there any difference between Opa Ase and Opa itele? if yes What are the obas holding in their hands in that picture?
Re: President Jonathan And Yoruba Oba's, Blessing Or Curse? (photo) by tolababa(m): 12:58pm On Mar 09, 2015
Ahmeduana:

MR MAN DID YOU KNOW WHAT IS CALLED opa ashe IN YORUBA LAND?


Broda that is opa itile (royal walking stick) and not staff of authority (opa ase) pointing the base to somebody is something else

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