BabaTony:

1. Are the statistics reeled out here based on the states of origin of the candidates or states where the students where registered?
2. Should the statistics be based on number of candidates or the percentage of the total population of that state or tribe?
3. Will this arguement move us in  Nigeria forwad or backward?

Ibime:

My friend sharrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaap! Not only do we write the exams in our dining room, we also write them underwater whilst doing the front crawl - and still manage to whoop ass! 

Graduates in what? Yahoozee? 

debosky:

1. JAMB statistics are based on state of origin. Population statistics are based on where people were counted at the time of the census.

2. Percentages have been displayed to highlight the differences in performances between different groups.

3. This argument will definitely move us forward - if there are deficiencies, we should identify where they are. If attempts are being made to create a false impression, those should be dealt with too.
Yorubas aren't the only ones in Lagos - if we make a claim that most people in Lagos are Yorubas, then our population beats that of the Igbos by close to 20% and we are still over 10% behind - that simply makes the case worse.

~Sauron~:

The stats only prove students in the Naija-Delta are exam cheats, crooks, rogues and will shoot JAMB officials to carry out their malpractices if provoked.

Ibime:

You nor well. 
Society is Naija Delta is not yet degraded to the point that 16 year-olds are engaged in militant activities, although I do remember buying my Junior WAEC papers and passing with flying colours. 

If your assertions held any water, then Bayelsa would be outperforming Rivers State and Delta State would be equally impressive. Most would argue that the reason Bayelsa is behind Rivers State is lack of infrastructure and poor accessibility of education, unlike Rivers State. Growing up in PH, I can tell you that education is the be-all and end-all of our society. Even outlier towns like Bonny, Okrika, Buguma, Abonemma etc and such are serious about it. It should be of serious concern when people who paddle to school are outperforming those who walk to it. 

~Sauron~:


It's baffling. . . . . . . .

Maybe more SW students travel abroad to further their education more than the students in the SE.

That could well be a factor but it's still inadequate and cannot account for the huge disconnect.
It doesn't make sense but then nothing really makes sense in Naija.

This is one of those feel-happy craps that people often deceptively pad into argument hoping they will stick unnoticed.

Dede1:

This is one of those fill-happy craps that people often deceptively pad into argument hoping they will stick unnoticed.

Forget all these excuses. We all know the South-West is more populated than the South-East, which is empty. No be today when Igbo people start to leave South-East Nigeria in their droves. Can you argue that Lagos State is less populated than Bayelsa State? If not, why does Bayelsa State have more University entrants than Lagos State? The simple fact is that the South-West and North need to get their act together.

tkb417:

ok, the same JAMB that the poster culled his stats from describe some states as Educationally less developed states! abi no be so?
abeg, apart from the Northern states, can someone tell me the other states that fill the space (ELDS)
SE basically
the SW states command the highest cut off points in Jamb exams ( at least when i wrote JAMB, dunno about now)

Na wa oh! Nigeria1/Becomerich's satellite madness has entered wikipedia! Shocked Grin Grin

His population figures based on satellite maps was used to estimate population as well, someone now claims they are 'closer to true figures' Cheesy Grin Grin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Nigeria

Even going by the 'satellite figures'

SW (excluding Lagos ) 25,168,456

SE 16,203,879

This even worsens the case - with these figures, we are 36% more than the Igbos, but with at least 10% lower applications to university! Shocked

Given Becomerich's clear bias, I suspect the Yoruba figures are inflated, but the Igbo figure remains close to what the likely flawed 2006 'census' reports.

**osisi:

Why is it hard for some people to accept that the SE has more students registering for JAMB and gaining admissions in Nigerian universities than the SW?
Or that the SE and SS do slightly better in test scores than the SW?
These are JAMB statistics
Anyone who thinks it's wrong ought to take it up with JAMB rather than argue blindly on nairaland.
The figures are there for all to see.

Negro_Ntns:

If you are looking for the results on Maths, you click on the Maths link.  It displays a pre-written result for you.  It does not give[b] you the opportunity to do a query of the data units residing in the database and determine your own numbers.  It gives you limited access to what is pre-analyzed by someone else that had access to the database.[/b]  This person has not told you what is included or excluded in the numbers he/she is presenting to you.  
The proof that this information is inaccurate is inherent in its output - you are being fed data output from someone who has illegally cloned the official website of the authority that proprietly owns the data. His/her access into the proprietary database and use is suspicious, more so that the access presented to you is limited to the output and is totally exclusive of a very important element for accurate statistical analysis - upper limits, lower limits and the range!  

If this is not a pre-meditated message of conspiracy to project data analysis for regional competition, then I don't know what else to calll it.  I guess Afaukwu and Ibime, since you both stand by this report (and it doesn not matter if you are looking at 6yr or just 1 yr they are in the same repository and are flawed) then the burden of proof is on you that they are accurate.  

Why is it hard for some people to accept that the SE has more students registering for JAMB and gaining admissions in Nigerian universities than the SW?
Or that the SE and SS do slightly better in test scores than the SW?
These are JAMB statistics
Anyone who thinks it's wrong ought to take it up with JAMB rather than argue blindly on nairaland.
The figures are there for all to see.

Tpia,

You are right!  I am on your side, please reserve a seat for me.  

It's very painful!  I am a participant on an Hausa forum site and trust me, I battle with them on a daily basis. . . but you can never break through the membrane of their unity, muslim or christian they band together strongly.  

Imo is the most educationally developed state in Nigeria and i think encounters the highest cut off mark in all examinations.however,university education is just one factor amongst many in measurement of wisdom and success.Most of our past presidents never went to college.we should therefore not try to use it as a proof of tribal superiority.me sef wey get masters in natural chemistry wetin i dey do?wetin i get?i dey work for person[/quote]

Negro_Ntns:

Osisi, I do not dispute that SE outperforms SW or NE outperforms SW or in any way you want to configure the comparisons.  When you have statistical data thatyou flash as evidence of that claim, then there is a different game entirely.  

Do you know how the North came to get bigger chunk of resource allocation than the SE?  Data manipulation!  The one that wins the battle is the one that can prove their claim, beyond reasonable doubt that, with a truckload of shenanigan data reports.  Who in SE stood up against North and disputed the figures?  None!  No play, no play, people thought they were backward and could not win that argument but they won it and sustained it this long.  

Anytime a Yoruba person brings data and flash it in your face with a claim you must review that claim independently and if you have suspicions please question it.  It's part of the democratic process.  

Yes, we are looking at JAMB reports that had been hijacked and manipulated before the output was displayed for users. I am the contender of your SE data here.  No play, no play, this assertion could gain momentum and end up in policies that are infavorable to SW.  This is the time to challenge and disrepute it before it gets to that point.  Won't you agree my sister?  

You have serious problems.

WHERE is the PROOF that the site was CLONED??

WHERE is the PROOF that the output is WRONG??

I am highly disappointed that you will make baseless claims that have no relevance except in your warped imagination.

What reasonable organisation will give you direct access to it's DATABASE holding private individual's data through the web??

I have explained times without number - ONE SITE jamb.org.ng is set up PRIMARILY as an online PAYMENT PORTAL for registering for PCE and UME examinations. The other is the MAIN SITE of the organisation, housing it's email access, data about the organisation and enrollment and admissions information. THERE IS NO CLONING so stop your ridiculous and frankly idiotic conspiracy theories.

There is NOTHING premeditated in it - the registrar is a YORUBA man, the one previous to him was HAUSA - where is the stupid conspiracy theory?

Professor Adedibu Ojerinde proceeded to University of Ife for his Bachelor of Science in Physics/Maths and Master of Education ( Educational Psychology,Tests and Measurement) and Ph.D in Educational Tests and Measurement at Cornel University, Ithaca, New York, USA. Professor Adedibu Ojerinde is the first Nigerian Professor of Tests and Measurement.

That is a well qualified individual who heads JAMB, and I will rely on his data analysis, rather than the inane ramblings of a confused wannabe tribal champion. Honestly you disappoint me - you are no better than a rabble rouser in making completely unsubstantiated claims with NO EVIDENCE to back it up.

You have to accept that you are not the super education tribe as many of you have been programmed to believe.
Maybe in the 1960's and 1970's but not in today's Nigeria
I've often here many of you talk about Ekiti and professors in every family or Igbos only selling spare parts in Alaba
Have you been to Mbaise where you could have 9 children and all of them medical doctors and professors in Ife,Ibadan,Lagos,Uniben and UNTH?

Sharon doesn't even know that a few years ago, Lagos was an ELDS, not because it was not performing, but because even the ELDS list had to represent "federal character". Besides, you wouldn't find any SE state in that list, not because they may be performing, but because God Forbid that Federal Government try to help Igbo's in any way. Rivers, Cross Rivers and Bayelsa used to be on the list with Lagos, I don't know if they still are. I wouldn't even pay attention to such classifications, when they are based on political machinations, unscientific perceptions and from incorrect census figures.

Imo is the most educationally developed state in Nigeria and i think encounters the highest cut off mark in all examinations.however,university education is just one factor amongst many in measurement of wisdom and success.Most of our past presidents never went to college.we should therefore not try to use it as a proof of tribal superiority.me sef wey get masters in natural chemistry wetin i dey do?wetin i get?i dey work for person

tkb417:

Those are the ELDS in the country apart from the Nothern states!!
I guess those are SS states. i classify them to be the same thing.
its too early to take alcohol
the schools that command the highest cut off points in 9ja are the SW unis and the states with the highest cut off points are usually Ogun, Ondo and Ekiti.
so where did u get ur IMO thingy from?

its too early to take alcohol
the schools that command the highest cut off points in 9ja are the SW unis and the states with the highest cut off points are usually Ogun, Ondo and Ekiti.
so where did u get ur IMO thingy from?