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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by cheruv: 12:47am On Dec 29, 2015
EzePromoe:
You've said it all. Many Nigerians (both pro-Biafra and pro-Nigeria) are so daft. Some of them are just taking advantage of their hate for the Igbos to tonguelash the Igbos under the guise of defending Nigeria's unity against Biafra. The truth is that not all Igbos are Biafrans and not all Biafrans are Igbos. Period!
Dedem,I biala? smiley
Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by cheruv: 12:52am On Dec 29, 2015
DerideGull:


Per the bolded, the above is a trash it comes. Gowon does not have the right to divide Nigeria without the consent of eastern region talk less abrogating eastern region of Nigeria. If he had such powers, there should not have been a civil war. Again, you are wastefully educated.
Ozuzu azuru tonyebarcanista dika nri naeghezihu ofuma angry

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by cheruv: 12:54am On Dec 29, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
@[s]OP you need to remove your mask. Ijaw and ALL ethnic nationalities in Rivers, Bayelsa, Cross river and Akwa Ibom are NOT and has never been Biafrans.

2. When Ojukwu declared is Biafra, he was Governor of Eastern state that exclude Rivers, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom and Cross river. Old Rivers and Old Cross river were already created by Gowon.

3. We(SS) fought against Biafra because it was Ojukwu and his majority Igbo backers project.

4. Biaffra is an Igbo agenda though I may agree that not all Igbos are pro-Biafrans, but majority are. #Fact


This is thrashthrash[/s]....
Your piece was the thrashy one not his!!
Laghachi skūl!! angry

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by FisifunKododada: 1:32am On Dec 29, 2015
cool I doesn't matter. Biafra will never happen. Igbos are not ready for another war and Nigeria is not willing to let anybody go. It is interesting that when GEJ saturated every corner of his government with Igbos, we never saw ONE SINGLE march by IPOB. As soon as Buhari was elected they held a massive march in Aba. This is WHY most Nigerians, who can used their brains, see this current Biafra agitation as mere bad belly against Buhari. ITS 100% political - and hence we don't take them seriously. Wait until 2019 and present your candidate. Until then, Shut the fvck up - Ndi ara.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by DerideGull(m): 1:36am On Dec 29, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
@OP you need to remove your mask. Ijaw and ALL ethnic nationalities in Rivers, Bayelsa, Cross river and Akwa Ibom are NOT and has never been Biafrans.

2. When Ojukwu declared is Biafra, he was Governor of Eastern state that exclude Rivers, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom and Cross river. Old Rivers and Old Cross river were already created by Gowon.

3. We(SS) fought against Biafra because it was Ojukwu and his majority Igbo backers project.

4. Biaffra is an Igbo agenda though I may agree that not all Igbos are pro-Biafrans, but majority are. #Fact


This is thrash....

Per the bolded, the "we" crap smack of cowardice. Who are the "we" in the above junk? The inconsequential SS is a thing of yesterday that had nothing to do with eastern region of Nigeria. Look, Ijaw_citizen, I would appreciate if you indicate what Ijaw your were carved out. I know an Ijaw Flight Lieutenant who dead fighting for Biafra. Also there was one Ijaw boy from a well known family in Sagbama who commanded 52 brigade of Biafran "S" Div. at Igurunta who was bent in capturing PH towards the tail end of 1969. Even one of the top fighter pilots in Biafra is also from Sagbama too. You are a loser!!! Like those whose grandfather gambled away their family fortune and asking why the family is poor.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by DerideGull(m): 1:40am On Dec 29, 2015
FisifunKododada:
cool I doesn't matter. Biafra will never happen. Igbos are not ready for another war and Nigeria is not willing to let anybody go. It is interesting that when GEJ saturated every corner of his government with Igbos, we never saw ONE SINGLE march by IPOB. As soon as Buhari was elected they held a massive march in Aba. This is WHY most Nigerians, who can used their brains, see this current Biafra agitation as mere bad belly against Buhari. ITS 100% political - and hence we don't take them seriously. Wait until 2019 and present your candidate. Until then, Shut the fvck up - Ndi ara.
or even Asian cannot insinuate war when issue of self-determination is the subject of discussion. I heard from news today that Japan and South Korea have settled the atrocities (comfort women) Japan committed during WWII. It is class act from human beings with intellect above animals unlike Africans.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by FisifunKododada: 2:05am On Dec 29, 2015
DerideGull:


A European or even Asian cannot insinuate war when issue of self-determination is the subject of discussion. I heard from news today that Japan and South Korea have settled the atrocities (comfort women) Japan committed during WWII. It is class act from human beings with intellect above animals unlike Africans.

cool Bia be realistic. If Nigeria is not willing to let any part of it break away what other options do you have? EVERY country will do ANYTHING to protect their territorial integrity. 620,000 Americans were slaughtered in the civil war to protect America's territorial integrity. Today, any Southern American state (like Texas etc.) that tries to break away will be pummeled into submission. Tibet (with the support of world powers) has been trying to break away from China since 1793 with no success. China has jailed, tortured and killed many of them into submission. Now all they have left is to use diplomatic means but since China is not interested in letting them go, its not gonna happen. And if you think Japan and South Korea are diplomatic role models why don't you see what we happen if ANY part of those two countries try to break away. Ojukwu took Biafra to war against Nigeria in 1967 and the Nigerian military WON the war by beating Biafra/Ojukwu to submission. With Ojukwu sacrificing 2 million Biafrans in the process of showing how 'tough' he was. Why should Nigeria now hand over what her brave soldiers fought valiantly to keep? The Igbos best bet is to go to war and if (A VERY BIG IF) they win the war against Nigeria then they can take their pick of any territory in the country. The ONLY way diplomatic means MIGHT work is if their is a massive EXODUS of Igbos from all over the country back to the East. If other Nigerians start seeing their Igbos neighbors relocate en masse back to the east, then out of compassion these Nigerians will put pressure on the government to allow the Igbos to have their own country.Other Nigerians will start joining the Igbos in protest for the actualization of Biafra. That is when you will start hearing Nigerians saying things like, "na by force, these poor people are already moving out, please govt. stop been stubborn and let them have their own country - they deserve it." But you and I know that a mass exodus of Igbos will NEVER happen. MOST Igbos would rather live outside of Biafra than within Biafran - this is the reality of the matter and no amount of noise making on the internet will change this.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by nduchucks: 2:13am On Dec 29, 2015
DerideGull:


Per the bolded, the above is a trash as it comes. Gowon does not have the right to divide Nigeria without the consent of eastern region talk less abrogating eastern region of Nigeria. If he had such powers, there should not have been a civil war. Again, you are wastefully educated.

Oga, TonyeBarcanista is very correct in saying that when Ojukwu declared is Biafra, he was Governor of Eastern state that excluded Rivers, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom and Cross river. Old Rivers and Old Cross river were already created by Gowon.


In February 1966, when Isaac Boro, Sam Owonaro and Nottingham Dick alongside their supporters proclaimed a "Delta Peoples Republic", biafra was not included in the said republic. On 27 May 1967, under the administration of General Yakubu Gowon, decree No. 14 was issued, allowing the creation of Rivers State. Ojukwu's Eastern region at the time of "secession" did not include Ijawland or modern day SS area.

The good people of Niger Delta fought alongside gallant Nigerian soldiers to defeat the secessionists. My Gull, there is no need to try to revise history, though we have come to expect that from you.

If you and the likes of Kanu want to lead Igbo youths on another suicide mission, be rest assured that the people of the Niger Delta will fight you once again.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by DerideGull(m): 2:20am On Dec 29, 2015
FisifunKododada:


cool Bia be realistic. If Nigeria is not willing to let any part of it break away what other options do you have? EVERY country will do ANYTHING to protect their territorial integrity. 620,000 Americans were slaughtered in the civil war to protect America's territorial integrity. Today, any Southern American state (like Texas etc.) that tries to break away will be pummeled into submission. Tibet (with the support of world powers) has been trying to break away from China since 1793 with no success. China has jailed, tortured and killed many of them into submission. Now all they have left is to use diplomatic means but since China is not interested in letting them go, its not gonna happen. And if you think Japan and South Korea are diplomatic role models why don't you see what we happen if ANY part of those two countries try to break away. Ojukwu took Biafra to war against Nigeria in 1967 and the Nigerian military WON the war by beating Biafra/Ojukwu to submission. With Ojukwu sacrificing 2 million Biafrans in the process of showing how 'tough' he was. Why should Nigeria now hand over what her brave soldiers fought valiantly to keep? The Igbos best bet is to go to war and if (A VERY BIG IF) they win the war against Nigeria then they can take their pick of any territory in the country. The ONLY way diplomatic means MIGHT work is if their is a massive EXODUS of Igbos from all over the country back to the East. If other Nigerians start seeing their Igbos neighbors relocate en masse back to the east, then out of compassion these Nigerians will put pressure on the government to allow the Igbos to have their own country.Other Nigerians will start joining the Igbos in protest for the actualization of Biafra. That is when you will start hearing Nigerians saying things like, "na by force, these poor people are already moving out, please govt. stop been stubborn and let them have their own country - they deserve it." But you and I know that a mass exodus of Igbos will NEVER happen. MOST Igbos would rather live outside of Biafra than within Biafran - this is the reality of the matter and no amount of noise making on the internet will change this.


Pert the bolded, why is it that most dumbass Nigerians readily inject what is obtained in USA on issue pertaining to Nigeria? There is sound logic in human nature and it seems lost on most Nigeria. If the dumbass Nigeria is one-millionth to what USA is all about, who in his/her right mind will remember Biafra? China's route to maturation is not the same as Nigeria. Nigeria came about through amalgamation by the British imperialist. Most mindsets displayed by Nigerians do not give hope of constructive growth in Nigeria. Most Nigerians waste precious time comparing oranges and apples. It will be a serious lapse in human intellect for one to think 1967 when war is the subject matter in today's Nigeria.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by DerideGull(m): 2:24am On Dec 29, 2015
nduchucks:


Oga, TonyeBarcanista is very correct in saying that when Ojukwu declared is Biafra, he was Governor of Eastern state that exclude Rivers, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom and Cross river. Old Rivers and Old Cross river were already created by Gowon.


In February 1966, when Isaac Boro, Sam Owonaro and Nottingham Dick alongside their supporters proclaimed a "Delta Peoples Republic", biafra was not included in the said republic. On 27 May 1967, under the administration of General Yakubu Gowon, decree No. 14 was issued, allowing the creation of Rivers State. Ojukwu's Eastern region at the time of "secession" did not include Ijawland or modern day SS area.

The good people of Niger Delta fought alongside gallant Nigerian soldiers to defeat the secessionists. My Gull, there is no need to try to revise history, though we have come to expect that from you.

If you and the likes of Kanu want to lead Igbo youths on another suicide mission, be rest assured that the people of the Niger Delta will fight you once again.

Per the bolded, Gowon was not recognized as anything in eastern region therefore has no slightest of authority to divide eastern region. Why would Gowon and Nigeria had to fight a war to step into the so-called states created by him? Only in your goofy world that you share what does not belong to your father.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by FisifunKododada: 2:35am On Dec 29, 2015
DerideGull:



Pert the bolded, why is it that most dumbass Nigerians readily inject what is obtained in USA on issue pertaining to Nigeria? There is sound logic in human nature and it seems lost on most Nigeria. If the dumbass Nigeria is one-millionth to what USA is all about, who in his/her right mind will remember Biafra? China's route to maturation is not the same as Nigeria. Nigeria came about through amalgamation by the British imperialist. Most mindsets displayed by Nigerians do not give hope of constructive growth in Nigeria. Most Nigerians waste precious time comparing oranges and apples.

You are not very informed. Here is how I can tell.

cool In 2013 More than a 100,000 Texans signed an online petition calling on the Obama administration to allow Texas to secede from the United States and create an independent government. Obama told them, NO. Texas is the America state with the second biggest economy after California and yet their are hundreds of thousands of Texans who would like to secede from the USA.

As a matter of fact, In the wake of the Nov. 6 2012 Presidential election, petitions seeking to secede from the union have been filed on behalf of 23 states on the White House website, https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions. Most of the petitions contain the same wording and ask to withdraw “peacefully” from the United States in order to form independent governments.

Please inform yourself before quoting people who are your intellectual seniors.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by nduchucks: 2:36am On Dec 29, 2015
DerideGull:


Per the bolded, Gowon was not recognized as anything in eastern region therefore has no slightest of authority to divide eastern region. Why would Gowon and Nigeria had to fight a war to step into the so-called states created by him? Only in your goofy world that you share what does not belong to your father.

The eastern region was part of Nigeria at that time and even Ojukwu had to comply with the decree or face court martial. Ojukwu or anyone from the Eastern region never raised any objection to the formation of Rivers state. It is only in your delluded world that the civil war was fought because of the creation of Rivers state.

Stop this crap about Niger Delta being part of biafra while you are ahead. As I stated earlier when Isaac Boro, Sam Owonaro and Nottingham Dick alongside their supporters proclaimed a "Delta Peoples Republic", they did so without including the Easterners. Do your biafra thing without the people of Niger Delta, you do not need them. ko kwa?

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by fulanimafia: 2:42am On Dec 29, 2015
What do you mean by a military head of state was not recognized in the eastern region? Do you think he needed your chieftancy title to wield his authority over your region?

If you people had not evolved to recognize constituted authority due to the lack of a native structure of governance, you should have by now.

It's your lack of awareness of the LAND USE ACT that still makes you think you have more right over your land than the FG does, which is why you think Gowon was sharing your father's property.

DerideGull:


Per the bolded, Gowon was not recognized as anything in eastern region therefore has no slightest of authority to divide eastern region. Why would Gowon and Nigeria had to fight a war to step into the so-called states created by him? Only in your goofy world that you share what does not belong to your father.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by FisifunKododada: 2:45am On Dec 29, 2015
DerideGull:



You are a dumbass rapscallion for bringing issue of USA into Nigeria's idiocy. What a goon.

cool Chinedu Uzoma, you are disgracing your father. Shut up. Pick up a book. Read and get some knowledge, biko.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by sdeensquare(m): 2:46am On Dec 29, 2015
confused ethnics ... grin

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by DerideGull(m): 2:48am On Dec 29, 2015
nduchucks:


The eastern region was part of Nigeria at that time and even Ojukwu had to comply with the decree or face court martial. Ojukwu or anyone from the Eastern region never raised any objection to the formation of Rivers state. It is only in your delluded world that the civil war was fought because of the creation of Rivers state.

Stop this crap about Niger Delta being part of biafra while you are ahead. As I stated earlier when Isaac Boro, Sam Owonaro and Nottingham Dick alongside their supporters proclaimed a "Delta Peoples Republic", they did so without including the Easterners. Do your biafra thing without the people of Niger Delta, you do not need them. ko kwa?

Per the bolded, are you this slow to bring issue of dumbass Adaka boro's madness into the quagmire between eastern region and illegal government of Nigeria led by Gowon? Do you for once ask yourself what was the essence of peace conference at Aburi, Ghana? It appears most Nigerians have penchant for illogicality. What have the goofy characters such Isaac Boro, Sam Owonaro and Nottingham Dick got to do with the status of eastern region led by Emeka Ojukwu?

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by fulanimafia: 2:49am On Dec 29, 2015
FisifunKododada:


cool Chinedu Uzoma, you are disgracing your father. Shut up. Pick up a book. Read and get some knowledge, biko.

What do you expect after you have completely disarmed him with logic and common sense grin?

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by nduchucks: 2:53am On Dec 29, 2015
DerideGull:


Per the bolded, are you this slow to bring issue of dumbass Adaka boro's madness into the quagmire between eastern region and illegal government of Nigeria led by Gowon? Do you for once ask yourself what was the essence of peace conference at Aburi, Ghana? It appears most Nigerians have penchant for illogicality. What have the goofy characters such Isaac Boro, Sam Owonaro and Nottingham Dick got to do with the status of eastern region led by Emeka Ojukwu?

Stop pretending to be a dummy. The point is that your biafra does not include the Niger Delta Replublic declared by Isaac Boro and others. Leave these people alone and fight for your cause by yourself.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by DerideGull(m): 2:59am On Dec 29, 2015
nduchucks:


Stop pretending to be a dummy. The point is that your biafra does not include the Niger Delta Replublic declared by Isaac Boro and others. Leave these people alone and fight for your cause by yourself.

Are there no bright fellows in dumbass Nigeria? When your goofy three characters engaged in their madness, it was about their daydreams and Nigeria. If the dumbass goons did not hail from eastern region, the crap of eastern region or lack thereof would not have surfaced in this your silly plank of argument.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by EzePromoe: 3:22am On Dec 29, 2015
cheruv:

Dedem,I biala? smiley
Anomya. Anam ahu ezigbo oru i n'aru n'ebea. Jisike nwanne!
Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by FisifunKododada: 4:21am On Dec 29, 2015
fulanimafia:


What do you expect after you have completely disarmed him with logic and common sense grin?


grin grin grin e dey pain am die grin grin grin

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by FisifunKododada: 4:23am On Dec 29, 2015
DerideGull:



I bet a dumbass junky such as you has never set feet in USA since you think online petition is the mean to grant any group self determination. seriously, I do not waste time with intellectual midgets.


cool I migrated to the United States 13 years ago. Am here living a great life. I am not only probably more educated than you, I am probably worth far more financially than your entire generation combined. Keep fooling yourself grin grin grin

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Labee: 4:36am On Dec 29, 2015
fulanimafia:


What do you expect after you have completely disarmed him with logic and common sense grin?

How did he disarm him with logic? Like someone rightfully pointed out earlier, we love to compare apples to oranges alot as Nigerians. We are talking about an aggitation by over 5 southeastern states in addition to some south south states , and he is mentioning one USA
state. Besides what are the reasons Texans have for seceeding from the USA? Are they marginalized like the Ibos. The last time I heard, Texas is one of the largest economies in the USA. If you have ever been to Texas, you will understand that nobody will ever understand why they will agitate for an independent state. Nobody will ever simpathyze with them. If you check well you will realize that majority of the so called 100,000 signatures have ties to the KKK racist movement. However come to the Southeast, and you will understand why the people are clamoring for an independent nation

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by fulanimafia: 4:49am On Dec 29, 2015
Yes he clearly stole the wind from his sail with common sense.

The argument was about nations adopting extreme measures to defend their territorial integrity, which the ignorant one condemned Nigeria for, only to be enlightened that the model of modern democracy, America, has done the same in the past and is in fact a norm. His exact words were "A European or even Asian cannot insinuate war when issue of self-determination is the subject of discussion".

Is it not illogical to now ask why America and it's massacre of secessionists during the civil war was introduced as an instance in the discourse? Were you expecting to hear Iran?

I don't expect you to entertain reason which flows against your narrative, but stop insulting our intelligence by pretending to be rational about issues when you're clearly lily-hopping.

Labee:


How did he disarm him with logic? Like someone rightfully pointed out earlier, we love to compare apples to oranges alot as Nigerians. We are talking about an aggitation by over 5 southeastern states in addition to some south south states , and he is mentioning one USA
state. Besides what are the reasons Texans have for seceeding from the USA? Are they marginalized like the Ibos. The last time I heard, Texas is one of the largest economies in the USA. If you have ever been to Texas, you will understand that nobody will ever understand why they will agitate for an independent state. Nobody will ever simpathyze with them. If you check well you will realize that majority of the so called 100,000 signatures have ties to the KKK racist movement. However come to the Southeast, and you will understand why the people are clamoring for an independent nation

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Truth4eva: 6:14am On Dec 29, 2015
cheruv:

Your piece was the thrashy one not his!!
Laghachi skūl!! angry
That TonyeBarcanista guy has yoruba blood in him whether directly or indirectly, though I stand to be corrected. A referendum will stop all these arguments.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by Afam4eva(m): 7:34am On Dec 29, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
@OP you need to remove your mask. Ijaw and ALL ethnic nationalities in Rivers, Bayelsa, Cross river and Akwa Ibom are NOT and has never been Biafrans.

2. When Ojukwu declared is Biafra, he was Governor of Eastern state that exclude Rivers, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom and Cross river. Old Rivers and Old Cross river were already created by Gowon.

3. We(SS) fought against Biafra because it was Ojukwu and his majority Igbo backers project.

4. Biaffra is an Igbo agenda though I may agree that not all Igbos are pro-Biafrans, but majority are. #Fact


This is thrash....
If based on the reason you give, Ijaw and other minorities were not part of the Biafran declared by Ojukwu, it means Igbos were also not part of it. If you did your research vgery well, you'll realize that the east central state was also declared alongside rivers state and other states created and Ukpabi Asika was the administrator from 1967 to 1970. A lot of minorities fought on the side of Nigeria just much as those minorities that fought on teh side of Biafra. There were also loads of Igbos that fought on the side of Nigeria against a rebelious leader in the name of Ojukwu. The sooner you do away with any hate you have for Igbos and see the truth for what it is, the better for you.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by TonyeBarcanista(m): 7:35am On Dec 29, 2015
DerideGull:


Per the bolded, the above is a trash as it comes. Gowon does not have the right to divide Nigeria without the consent of eastern region talk less abrogating eastern region of Nigeria. If he had such powers, there should not have been a civil war. Again, you are wastefully educated.
Your ignorance and greed stink. Our people are very smart we know what you lot(Biafra promoters are up to and we are equal to the task. At present we have over a million Boros, Wiwas and Ejoors.

I have said and will say it again, if the inclusion of the SS is a necessity for Biafra to be achieved then Biafra will never be achieved. You can quote kme anywhere

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by ARIZONA123(m): 7:41am On Dec 29, 2015
Afam4eva:

This one cannot even get an education as simple as it is.
. Afam hw are much are you paid for this moderator job self? All this lazy lagos-igbos that have been turned into owambe freaks who knows no road leading to their ancestral home sef. Nawa oo.

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Re: Glaring Difference Between Igbo And Biafra by ARIZONA123(m): 7:46am On Dec 29, 2015
Afam4eva:

A referendum suffices when majority of the residents of the place in question are in support of the secessionist state and it will be their elected leaders that will do the talking and not some random folk.
. Afam ur shame dey shame me I swear. You dey lagos dey conclude that majority of igbos don't support d aggitation. Shame on you. Why not start by conducting the referendum on nairaland and see ur damned mouth floored here. Tufiakwa gi

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