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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by wadetaw202: 9:09pm On Jun 15, 2016
Alphaoscar:





Stfu !!!!



Is it today that Muslim students start wearing hijab to school ? This is a practice that has been happening for God knows when even among their teachers and people of other profession and I wonder why you now think it is Aregbesola's doing.


The Christian leaders are the ones making themselves the willing tools in the hands of the enemies of that state. I attended an Anglican primary school managed by the government but on every Friday we always have our morning prayers in the Islamic ways without anybody killing each other.

We even have imam in school then teaching IRK.






The practice was the same when I later transferred to an Ansar-ud-deen school where we have our morning prayers in the Christian ways from monday -Tuesday , on Wednesday you pray silently and call whatever God you which while Thursday - Fridays are for Islamic prayers.



That's why during our days all the students are able to know most the popular songs in the S.O.P and still recite fati'a and other Islamic verses.




This latest move and agitation is strange to us in Yorubaland . Every normal Yoruba family have people of the two religion and they co-exist without any fighting among them.




( And FYI, even my own patents are practicing different religions and they live together in peace).



If they didn't start wearing it today, why then does Aregbe has to pass it into law?

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Agbaletu: 9:13pm On Jun 15, 2016
omonnakoda:
You are naive Aregbe deliberately banned it and then went to court deliberately putting up a weak defense so as to lose the case.We are not fooled
Alphaoscar will not believe you. Aregbe is behind the kangaroo court judgement. I just hope and pray that it will be resolved quickly.

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Ussyberry(m): 9:13pm On Jun 15, 2016
Very ugly man!

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Agbaletu: 9:16pm On Jun 15, 2016
mike404:
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Hahaha....not really. Thanks omoiya mi.
Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Alphaoscar: 9:27pm On Jun 15, 2016
wadetaw202:


If they didn't start wearing it today, why then does Aregbe has to pass it into law?




Most of the commenters on this issue are even ignorant of the genesis of what they are commenting on.



The government passed are law banning the use of hijab in government schools but the Muslims went to the court to protest against the ban and the court ruled in their favour . how is that the fault of Aregbesola ? What stops the Christian leaders from appealing the judgement instead of constituting themselves to nuisance and threathing the peace of the state ?

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by wadetaw202: 9:35pm On Jun 15, 2016
Alphaoscar:





Most of the commenters on this issue are even ignorant of the genesis of what they are commenting on.



The government passed are law banning the use of hijab in government schools but the Muslims went to the court to protest against the ban and the court ruled in their favour . how is that the fault of Aregbesola ? What stops the Christian leaders from appealing the judgement instead of constituting themselves to nuisance and threathing the peace of the state ?


Do you have any tenable evidence to prove your claim?

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Alphaoscar: 9:36pm On Jun 15, 2016
Agbaletu:

Alphaoscar will not believe you. Aregbe is behind the kangaroo court judgement. I just hope and pray that it will be resolved quickly.




How are so sure of such an allegation ? because the ruling governor is a Muslim right ? Even such an allegation is true what stops the Christian leaders from appealing that judgement instead of all this nonsense ?


How does hijab on Aishat's head even affect uncle Joseph sef ? Aren't the two religion suppose to tolerate each other ? Is it today that those students start wearing hijab ? how does that affect the pastor in his Church ?



Maybe the two religion should be banned and everybody should start worshipping his/her God at the corner of their homes if they can't tolerate each other.

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Nsonso: 9:39pm On Jun 15, 2016
Naijacitizen:
Why does wearing hijab by Muslim woman affect Christians? Do you people want our sister to go around half naked like your very own sister who are causing nuisance in our society? Bunch of hypocrites and intolerant.

At least it is better to be a harmless nuisance than being a suicide bomber...who knows when it will be.

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Nobody: 9:43pm On Jun 15, 2016
Alphaoscar:





Most of the commenters on this issue are even ignorant of the genesis of what they are commenting on.



The government passed are law banning the use of hijab in government schools but the Muslims went to the court to protest against the ban and the court ruled in their favour . how is that the fault of Aregbesola ? What stops the Christian leaders from appealing the judgement instead of constituting themselves to nuisance and threathing the peace of the state ?
Especially you.
http://saharareporters.com/2013/10/14/religious-crisis-brewing-osun-state-over-gov-aregbesolas-merger-schools
That is from 2013. Aregbesola knows the cause of the problem and he also know how to solve it.

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Alphaoscar: 9:52pm On Jun 15, 2016
wadetaw202:



Do you have any tenable evidence to prove your claim?



it is left for you to do your investigation on issues before joining any side as I don't have of the time educating elderly ones on what they suppose to do instead of involving themselves in mob mentality.


This issue has been on ground for more than a year but because the court ruled in favour of the Muslims and people started accusing him of influencing the judgement. An accusation which they can't even defend.





why can't the Christian leaders appeal the judgement and follow the legal path towed by their Muslim colleagues ? I don't know religious leaders start behaving like this sef.
Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by chiwetaluAGU(m): 9:56pm On Jun 15, 2016
salaksmana:
Especially you.
http://saharareporters.com/2013/10/14/religious-crisis-brewing-osun-state-over-gov-aregbesolas-merger-schools
That is from 2013. Aregbesola knows the cause of the problem and he also know how to solve it.
I bet everything started getting ugly from here. That merger was the "the tiger by the tail".
Aregbe oya, if you no as you take rattle the beehive ... live with the stings.

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Alphaoscar: 9:57pm On Jun 15, 2016
salaksmana:
Especially you.
http://saharareporters.com/2013/10/14/religious-crisis-brewing-osun-state-over-gov-aregbesolas-merger-schools
That is from 2013. Aregbesola knows the cause of the problem and he also know how to solve it.




lol.




And you think I am not aware of that ?


why can't the Christian leaders go to court and behave like a responsible individuals ?

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Babacele: 10:04pm On Jun 15, 2016
wadetaw202:


Stop commenting like a goat. A sensible man will deal with issues and not people. Be sensible for once in your life.
I ll pretend I didn't see that.... run along .
Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by ASL33: 10:19pm On Jun 15, 2016
The govt should allow all parties to where their religious regalia since Hijab does not affect Joseph's accademic performance Christian regalia should not affect Sherifatu as well.

Two religious group are fighting and some people still dey deny it. As dem dey deny dem still d fight for nairaland yet can still dey deny.

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Nobody: 10:21pm On Jun 15, 2016
Alphaoscar:





lol.




And you think I am not aware of that ?


why can't the Christian leaders go to court and behave like a responsible individuals ?
Sorry
Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by chernest2002: 10:32pm On Jun 15, 2016
Anywhere they are, there must be trouble
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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by wadetaw202: 11:41pm On Jun 15, 2016
Babacele:
I ll pretend I didn't see that.... run along .

Boy, learn to deal with issues like matured people do. Only the immature condemns the messenger instead of considering the message.
Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by wadetaw202: 11:42pm On Jun 15, 2016
Alphaoscar:




it is left for you to do your investigation on issues before joining any side as I don't have of the time educating elderly ones on what they suppose to do instead of involving themselves in mob mentality.


This issue has been on ground for more than a year but because the court ruled in favour of the Muslims and people started accusing him of influencing the judgement. An accusation which they can't even defend.





why can't the Christian leaders appeal the judgement and follow the legal path towed by their Muslim colleagues ? I don't know religious leaders start behaving like this sef.




You are the one proclaiming aregbesola's innocence. So, you should be the line to prove your utterance. Don't tell me you have no proof for your comments.
Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Bethelwealthy(m): 12:39am On Jun 16, 2016
........help me tell am o. That religious jingoist with a backward mentality only fit for a ape-show. A first-class retard of the order of imbecilism.
All am saying is, Aregbesola is a political error ever made in the history of osun state.
Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Nobody: 12:41am On Jun 16, 2016

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by TheThinker1: 3:34am On Jun 16, 2016
“Is it this hijab or uniform wearing that will make them to become brilliant students, promote the standard of education and let them become useful to the society?”

“Let him concentrate on how to pay his workers salaries and work on how he will never owe salary again instead of this distraction he is occupying himself with.”

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Ahmeduana(m): 7:15am On Jun 16, 2016
malele:
This arebgesola is just a nonentity
FIRST CLASS UNDILUTED NONENTITY FOR THAT MATTER.
Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Nobody: 7:48am On Jun 16, 2016
Alphaoscar:





Most of the commenters on this issue are even ignorant of the genesis of what they are commenting on.



The government passed are law banning the use of hijab in government schools but the Muslims went to the court to protest against the ban and the court ruled in their favour . how is that the fault of Aregbesola ? What stops the Christian leaders from appealing the judgement instead of constituting themselves to nuisance and threathing the peace of the state ?
you are viewing the issue sentimentally, that's why you can't seem to see that it's all an agenda unfolding.

First, aregbesola merged schools of different origin and beliefs. Why would a governor cancel an ancient land mark by bringing Islamic schools and merging them with Christian schools? The Muslim's that were used to wearing their hijab to school continued such which made the governor to ban it so as to seem like there wasn't an agenda.

Their next move was to go to court in the guise of fighting for their right knowing fully well they were going to be favoured judiciarilly cos the state government, who would be the defendant, would put up a weak defence. This led to the court favouring the Islamic people and hijab wearing, stating that it's is their religious right.

To show you that it is all an agenda, why would aregbesola threaten to expel any student wearing Christian robs or attire to school? Is it not also their Religous right as stipulated by Justice Falola? Why the preferential treatment if he wasn't part of the grand agenda?

There's no need for the CAN leaders to appeal the case cos they might not get a fair hearing. They have agreed for hijab to be worn to schools. So, Muslim's and the state government should allowed Christians and people of other religion to wear their religious attires if they do wish. Giving preferential treatment to the muslims is tantamount to saying they own the schools and the government. The law has been passed: Allow religious rights in schools.

cc beremx

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Nobody: 7:57am On Jun 16, 2016
Alphaoscar:





lol.




And you think I am not aware of that ?


why can't the Christian leaders go to court and behave like a responsible individuals ?
no need to go to court.

A law has been passed which allows for religious outfit in schools. They are only adhering to it.

Aregbesola should obey the law. Simple

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Alphaoscar: 8:17am On Jun 16, 2016
bloodyBLOGGER:
you are viewing the issue sentimentally, that's why you can't seem to see that it's all an agenda unfolding.

First, aregbesola merged schools of different origin and beliefs. Why would a governor cancel an ancient land mark by bringing Islamic schools and merging them with Christian schools? The Muslim's that were used to wearing their hijab to school continued such which made the governor to ban it so as to seem like there wasn't an agenda.

Their next move was to go to court in the guise of fighting for their right knowing fully well they were going to be favoured judiciarilly cos the state government, who would be the defendant, would put up a weak defence. This led to the court favouring the Islamic people and hijab wearing, stating that it's is their religious right.

To show you that it is all an agenda, why would aregbesola threaten to expel any student wearing Christian robs or attire to school? Is it not also their Religous right as stipulated by Justice Falola? Why the preferential treatment if he wasn't part of the grand agenda?

There's no need for the CAN leaders to appeal the case cos they might not get a fair hearing. They have agreed for hijab to be worn to schools. So, Muslim's and the state government should allowed Christians and people of other religion to wear their religious attires if they do wish. Giving preferential treatment to the muslims is tantamount to saying they own the schools and the government. The law has been passed: Allow religious rights in schools.

cc beremx





Thank you for at least your civil and respectful stance on this issue .



You know as a Christian it is a sin bearing false and unsubstantiated witness

FYI, Osun is not the only state where the Muslims sued the government to court on this hijab issue . Even there is a pending case in Lagos state and I think Oyo state too on this so accusing Aregbesola of planning all this may actually be a false accusation.





The court ruling did not permit wearing church robes , Islamic Jalamia or even caps for male students but just strictly approved the use of Hijab which normally should be a short hijab that should just cover the head like you have in corporate environment .



The Muslims never protest the use of beret in school so why can't the Christian leaders just buy beret for their children or behave in a civil manner by going to the court of appeal and the supreme court.



This unnecessary fight of supremacy among the religion should stop !!! let them devote their energy to something more meaningful and productive . we are all families in Yorubaland irrespective of whatever you worship your God.

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Nobody: 8:37am On Jun 16, 2016
Alphaoscar:






Thank you for at least your civil and respectful stance on this issue .



You know as a Christian it is a sin bearing false and unsubstantiated witness

FYI, Osun is not the only state where the Muslims sued the government to court on this hijab issue . Even there is a pending case in Lagos state and I think Oyo state too on this so accusing Aregbesola of planning all this may actually be a false accusation.
Thats what I meant by a grand plan. If you noticed, when the issue started, majority of the states where it was been discussed were APC states with Muslim governors. That shows you they have an agenda. Why not mimiko of Ondo state or Fayemi/Fayose of Ekiti state?





Alphaoscar:

The court ruling did not permit wearing church robes , Islamic Jalamia or even caps for male students but just strictly approved the use of Hijab which normally should be a short hijab that should just cover the head like you have in corporate environment .
do you know how the law works? A political ruling in the Supreme Court concerning a Rivers State election can be cited in making a ruling concerning Sokoto state. For the court to allow a religion to have its rights approved, then it means other religions are free to enjoy same. This means it has been accepted by the law for religious tolerance in dress code. Same way Homosexuals have their rights allowed in the USA is the same way transgenders and bestiality is allowed. You can't favour one and restrict the rest.

If hijab could be allowed, then robes and traditional beads etc, should be allowed too.


Alphaoscar:

The Muslims never protest the use of beret in school so why can't the Christian leaders just buy beret for their children or behave in a civil manner by going to the court of appeal and the supreme court.

You are not to tell them how Christians should dress. If they decide that they don't want their boys to even wear shirts to school, no one can stop them cos it is their religious rights. This time, they have agreed on robes cos they agreed for Muslims to wear hijab. Aregbesola and his Muslim people should also agree on robes to be worn by Christians and beads by traditionalists. It is their religious right too


Alphaoscar:

This unnecessary fight of supremacy among the religion should stop !!! let them devote their energy to something more meaningful and productive . we are all families in Yorubaland irrespective of whatever you worship your God.
The fight can only stop if the government reverse the ridiculous and confusionist policy of merging schools of no religious relationship together.

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Nobody: 8:59am On Jun 16, 2016
bloodyBLOGGER:
The fight can only stop if the government reverse the ridiculous and confusionist policy of merging schools of no religious relationship together.
Very simple, that's what the christians has suggested even 3 years ago. The governor is not ready to do this, but we don't know WHY? Since the state was created in 1991 female muslim students have been wearing hijab to schools and there was no problem, something should make us sit down, think and find out why this problem is brewing now. Adeleke was a muslim, Akande was a muslim, Oyinlola was a christian, why was there no issue on hijab then? THE GOVERNOR CAUSED IT.

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Alphaoscar: 9:01am On Jun 16, 2016
bloodyBLOGGER:
Thats what I meant by a grand plan. If you noticed, when the issue started, majority of the states where it was been discussed were APC states with Muslim governors. That shows you they have an agenda. Why not mimiko of Ondo state or Fayemi/Fayose of Ekiti state?





do you know how the law works? A political ruling in the Supreme Court concerning a Rivers State election can be cited in making a ruling concerning Sokoto state. For the court to allow a religion to have its rights approved, then it means other religions are free to enjoy same. This means it has been accepted by the law for religious tolerance in dress code. Same way Homosexuals have their rights allowed in the USA is the same way transgenders and bestiality is allowed. You can't favour one and restrict the rest.

If hijab could be allowed, then robes and traditional beads etc, should be allowed too.


You are not to tell them how Christians should dress. If they decide that they don't want their boys to even wear shirts to school, no one can stop them cos it is their religious rights. This time, they have agreed on robes cos they agreed for Muslims to wear hijab. Aregbesola and his Muslim people should also agree on robes to be worn by Christians and beads by traditionalists. It is their religious right too


The fight can only stop if the government reverse the ridiculous and confusionist policy of merging schools of no religious relationship together.





No principal or headteacher have any right to send any student away if the government through the ministry of Education did not ban the use of hijab so fat it is of the same colour with the uniform.




The allegation of Governors promoting the use of hijab is totally unfounded and I will be the last person to buy into that . Ambode is a Christian governor in Lagos while Ogun is not experiencing this under Amosun who is a Muslim governor so please let the God fight his battle.




The Muslims have been cohabiting with the Christians in the SW without any quarrel now some of us are advocating for division among ourselves. God will not help them .



let's maintain the mutual respect and continue to live in peace or the two religions should be banned from the public.




I thought you all mostly accuse the Muslims of been extreme ? Your own stance too is extreme already. The judgement is based on hijab and anybody that feels like wearing robes to school should just go to court to get that enforced or face the consequences of their action.



And for the court rulings , if a state high gave a ruling you don't like you should proceed to the appeal court and from their you can head to the supreme and the last time I check we have only one supreme court in the land .


As it stands now the governor have no legal power to stop students using their hijab until the appeal or supreme court rule otherwise. doing so will amount to the contempt of the court which is a serious offence.

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Nobody: 9:02am On Jun 16, 2016
Alphaoscar:

The court ruling did not permit wearing church robes , Islamic Jalamia or even caps for male students but just strictly approved the use of Hijab which normally should be a short hijab that should just cover the head like you have in corporate environment .
"Premising his judgment on Section 38 of the Nigeria Constitution and Article 8 of the 2004 policy published by the state Ministry of Education, Justice Falola held that female Muslim students were not exempted from the freedom of religion, conscience and thought." If they are not exempted, others shouldn't be too. Christians are not saying they should not use hijab, they are saying others should be allowed to wear there religious attires too.

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Nobody: 9:14am On Jun 16, 2016
Alphaoscar:






No principal or headteacher have any right to send any student away if the government through the ministry of Education did not ban the use of hijab so fat it is of the same colour with the uniform.




The allegation of Governors promoting the use of hijab is totally unfounded and I will be the last person to buy into that . Ambode is a Christian governor in Lagos while Ogun is not experiencing this under Amosun who is a Muslim governor so please let the God fight his battle.




The Muslims have been cohabiting with the Christians in the SW without any quarrel now some of us are advocating for division among ourselves. God will not help them .



let's maintain the mutual respect and continue to live in peace or the two religions should be banned from the public.
you skipped the part where I said that we can only continue the peaceful coexistence between both religions in SW if the extremist of a governor can abolish the policy of merging schools of different religious backgrounds. Any other suggestion is equivalent to further division and confusion.

Religion should never be brought into western education except it is done in a privately owned school. As long as it is public, any clamour for religious rights should be kicked off or else what we see in Libya, Egypt, Syria, Turkey, Palestine and the whole Middle East where conflict is the order of the day will be experienced here.

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Re: Don’t Bring Religious War To Southwest, Babatope Warns Aregbesola by Nobody: 9:25am On Jun 16, 2016
salaksmana:
"Premising his judgment on Section 38 of the Nigeria Constitution and Article 8 of the 2004 policy published by the state Ministry of Education, Justice Falola held that female Muslim students were not exempted from the freedom of religion, conscience and thought." If they are not exempted, others shouldn't be too. Christians are not saying they should not use hijab, they are saying others should be allowed to wear there religious attires too.
that section is applicable to all religions, not Muslim's alone. See below:


38. (1) Every person shall be entitled to freedom of thought, conscience and religion, including freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom (either alone or in community with others, and in public or in private) to manifest and propagate his religion or belief in worship, teaching, practice and observance.




so, the should allow all religions to have the same freedom the Muslim's have in schools. No need for CAN to go to court again. @alphaoscar

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