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Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Kobojunkie: 3:00am On Sep 21, 2009
Beaf:

It is about our history and what our traditions say as against what outsiders say is our history.

No one is debating the cradle of life. . . A wretched topic not worth debating outside dogmatic circles, because there is no known definition of life.

But the many pictures posted here were taken by the "OUTSIDERS" and the history lessons also by "OUTSIDERS". Not sure how this is your history and the outsiders are changing it when your source is filled with ref to articles and pictures by "OUTSIDERS".
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by becomrich15: 3:28am On Sep 21, 2009
Ancient egypt were not Arab that you find in egpyt, I cant remember the time line. The Arab now in egpyt are recent immigrate to egpyt, they did not build the pyramid. African did and african where the pyrasus according to africa history.

If you look at the picture below at the cairo museum in Egypt contains forgeries and dozens of statues with nose alterations. the arabs are trying to rewrite history


Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Nobody: 3:37am On Sep 21, 2009
That's a blatant alteration, and a terrible job at that.

My goodness.

These people have no shame.
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by becomrich15: 3:55am On Sep 21, 2009
I am not shock by the list of the word in egpyt and yoruba. That what history say.


Read this 2 book and author works.
Samuel Johnson (was yoruba)
A History of the Yorubas from the Earliest Times to the Beginning of the British Protectorate ( published in 1921 by his brother)


Saburi Biobaku
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by becomrich15: 4:05am On Sep 21, 2009
The yorubas are suppose to be from egypt. We loss a war and move south. we have a very old pyramid in Yorubaland. Which look like the one in Egypt and it is at eredo. It is believe to be the Queen Sheeba's Pyramid .

When I look at does wall painting they look like the lifes of Yorubas. they look like if I have seen them before , i feel like I know this story before.
I cant explain. they look familier.
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Gamine(f): 4:06am On Sep 21, 2009
Theres nothing to gain from this,
im sure the ancient egyptians would be turning in their graves
if they knew we were trying to classify them as black or white.
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by becomrich15: 4:13am On Sep 21, 2009
Look you they are black, not arab. That why there is a fight in sudan.
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Nobody: 4:16am On Sep 21, 2009
Gamine, actually they won't be turning in their graves. They'd be jubilant.

They referred to themselves, not as ''Egyptians'' (a Greek term) , but as ''Kemmui'', meaning, ''the blacks''.

The country itself they called, Kemet, or black nation.

'Kem' is the term for black in the ancient Egyptian language. It is represented in hieroglyphs by a stick charred at both ends.

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Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Kobojunkie: 4:25am On Sep 21, 2009
THE BLACKS? A nation among blacks called itself THE BLACKS? In essence, you are saying Africans have ALWAYS had the RACE issue in their heads as they have classified themselves by skin color from way back.  RACE/Skin color has to be some serious issue for a group to decide to call it's nation "THE BLACKS". How Original. And what would the nubians had called their own nation? "THE OTHER BLACKS SOUTH OF THE BLACKS". Any solid references for all the claims made so far? Or are we just to take your word on this?

I am with @Gamine here.
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Gamine(f): 4:29am On Sep 21, 2009
ok and?

Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Nobody: 4:35am On Sep 21, 2009
I see two shades of black in that image.

One Semitic, the other Caucasoid.
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Nobody: 4:50am On Sep 21, 2009
Generally speaking, wherever you see a 'light skinned' Egyptian type, they do not constitute 'another race' or 'another variation of humanity now extinct', or  ''dark-skinned whites'' (believe it or not, I've heard that one as well) - they represent negroid Africans, perhaps of the Somali/Ethiopian variety.

There is scholarly support for this position:

In his book Egypt, British scholar Sir E.A. Wallis Budge says: "The prehistoric native of Egypt, both in the old and in the new Stone Ages, was African and there is every reason for saying that the earliest settlers came from the South." He further states: "There are many things in the manners and customs and religions of the historic Egyptians that suggests that the original home of their prehistoric ancestors was in a country in the neighborhood of Uganda and Punt." (Most historians believe that the biblical land of Punt was in the area known on modern maps as Somalia).

Also, there are murals in which the Egyptians represent themselves exactly the same as the 'other blacks', such as in this one found at the temple of Rameses:

The painting from Ramses III tomb in Lepsius' Denkmaler plate 48
[img]http://img81.exs.cx/img81/4571/ancientegyptianethnographicmur.jpg[/img]


Only a few years ago, British Egyptologists used cutting edge methods to reconstitute the mummified remains of Queen Nefertiti of Egypt, long represented as a white woman by western historians and media, and when the image below came out of the computer programme, they nearly fell off their chairs. It was a black woman.

[img]http://clippednews.files./2006/05/Nefertiti1.jpg[/img]

http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/nefertiti/face/face.html
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Spader9(m): 5:01am On Sep 21, 2009
Although not in a tomb, this ancient black man can be found in Mortal Kombat,

Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Nobody: 5:23am On Sep 21, 2009
Kobojunkie said:

THE BLACKS? A nation among blacks called itself THE BLACKS? In essence, you are saying Africans have ALWAYS had the RACE issue in their heads as they have classified themselves by skin color from way back. RACE/Skin color has to be some serious issue for a group to decide to call it's nation "THE BLACKS". How Original. And what would the nubians had called their own nation? "THE OTHER BLACKS SOUTH OF THE BLACKS". Any solid references for all the claims made so far? Or are we just to take your word on this?

I am with @Gamine here.

I think u should keep better company lol.



km.t, the name of Ancient Egypt in Egyptian; Egypt (Coptic: Kemi)
r n km.t, the native term for the Egyptian language

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemet




(Ref: The Egyptian Hieroglyphic Dictionary, Vols 1&2, E.A. Budge, Dover.)


Note: words inside brackets are the determinatives or word classifiers along with their English meanings.

Kem, kame, kmi, kmem, kmom = to be black

Kememu = Black people (Ancient Egyptians) in both Ancient and modern Egyptian (Kmemou).

Kem [khet][wood] = extremely black, jet-black

Kemet = any black thing. Note: "t" is silent - pronounced Kemé

Kemet [nu][community, settlement, nation] = Black nation = Ancient Egypt.

Kemet [Romé][people] = Black people. Ancient Egyptians.

Kemit [Shoit][books] = Black books, Ancient Egyptian literature.

Kem wer [miri][large body of water] = The Great Black sea (The Red sea). This sea is neither black nor red, this is in reference to which nation, Black or Red, at a particular time, controlled this body of water.

Kemi fer = Black double house; seat of government. Note: by reference to Wolof again, we know that to make a plural of per or house, the "p" becomes an "f" or fer. Thus fero=great houses (double), it is not pero as Budge writes.

In Ancient Egyptian, the ordinary adjective always follows the noun it modifies, whereas a sanctified adjective usually comes before its noun. The sanctified adjectives are:

Kem -- Black
Suten - Royal
Nter --- Holy, Sacred

Examples:

Kem ti = Black image, sacred image : ti oubash = white image

Kem ho = Black face/title of a god : ho oubash = white face

Kem ta = Black land, holy land : Ta deshret = Red land (also; Ta Sett)

This rule does not apply when Black is used as a noun-adjective of nationality:

Hompt Kemet = copper of Black; Egyptian copper : Hompt Sett = copper of the Red nations; Asiatic copper

Ro in Kemet (page 416a) = speech of Black; mute ro n Kemet = word of the mouth of Black; the Egyptian language

Kemet Deshret = Black and Red; good and evil; fertile and barren, etc.; Duality

Deshretu (page 554a,b) = red ones, red devils. Used also to refer to the Namu and Tamhu; not a complimentary label.


African Origins:

The following Ancient Egyptian words acknowledge the origins of Pharaonic Egyptian civilization;

Khentu Hon Nefer (page 554a) = founders of the Excellent Order. Budge: "peoples and tribes of Nubia and the Egyptian Sudan." For "Hon" see page 586b.

Hon Nefer (page 1024b) = Excellent Order

Kenus (page1024b) = mighty; brave (from Kenu, page 772a)

Ta Khent (page 1051b/page 554b) = land of the beginning.

Eau (page 952b/page 17b) = the old country

Ancient Egyptian's Worldview:

The Egyptian's view of the world was the exact opposite of the current Western one. To the Egyptian, the top of the world was in the south (upper) towards the African interior, the bottom (lower) towards the north, hence upper and lower Egypt; upper and lower Syria.

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Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Kobojunkie: 5:44am On Sep 21, 2009
Here is from one of the links on the page you posted




[size=13pt]One of the ancient Egyptian names of the country, Kemet (km.t), or "black land", referring to the fertile black soils of the Nile flood plains, distinct from the deshret (dšṛt), or "red land" of the desert.[4] The name is realized as kīmi and kīmə in the Coptic stage of the Egyptian language, and appeared in early Greek as Χημία (Khēmía).[5] Another name was t3-mry "land of the riverbank".[6] The names of Upper and Lower Egypt were Ta-Sheme'aw (t3-šmˁw) "sedgeland" and Ta-Mehew (t3 mḥw) "northland", respectively.[/size]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt_(name)#Etymology
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Nobody: 5:55am On Sep 21, 2009
Oh yes, the black soil business.

Most scholars outside the modern western cover-up establishment have rejected the false interpretation some have given to Kemet, ostensibly alluding the term Kemet to the alleged ''black soil''  of Egypt. There's nothing in the term, outside the imagination of western myth-makers,  to suggest the Egyptians referred to the color of the soil or sand, rather than the people, in naming their country. Our position is consistent with the testimony of the ancient Greek writers, eyewitnesses who unanimously described the Egyptians as a black people, closely related to the ''Ethiopians''.


BACK TO PUNT


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_Punt

The ancient Egyptians viewed the Land of Punt (Pun.t; Pwenet; Pwene) as their ancestral homeland.[22][23][24] In his book “The Making of Egypt” (1939), W. M. Flinders Petrie stated that the Land of Punt was “sacred to the Egyptians as the source of their race.” E.A. Wallis Budge stated that “Egyptian tradition of the Dynastic Period held that the aboriginal home of the Egyptians was Punt…”[25]

The exact location of Punt remains a mystery, but recent archeological information have pointed to eastern Sudan as the origin of this culture [26].


The placement of Punt in Eastern Africa is based on the fact that the products of Punt were abundantly found in East Africa but were less common or absent in Arabia. These products included gold, aromatic resins such as myrrh, ebony and elephant tusks. The wild animals depicted in Punt include giraffes, baboons, hippopotami and leopards which were common in East Africa but are less frequent or completely absent in Arabia. Says Richard Pankhurst, in his book “The Ethiopians”: “[Punt] has been identified with territory on both the Arabian and African coasts. Consideration of the articles which the Egyptians obtained from Punt, notably gold and ivory, suggests, however, that these were primarily of African origin. … This leads us to suppose that the term Punt probably applied more to African than Arabian territory.”[28][29][30][31]

In 2003 a newly discovered text was found in a tomb in El Kab, a small town that is located about 50 kilometres south of Thebes. The tomb belonged to the local governor, Sobeknakht II, and dates to the 17th dynasty (c.1600-1550 BC). An article in the Al-Ahram newspaper reported that the inscription mentions “a huge attack from the south on Elkab and Egypt by the Kingdom of Kush and its allies from the land of Punt.”[32] A similar article in the Times reports that "the inscription describes a ferocious invasion of Egypt by armies from Kush and its allies from the south, including the land of Punt, "[33]

Encyclopaedia Britannica describes Punt as follows: “in ancient Egyptian and Greek geography, the southern coast of the Red Sea and adjacent coasts of the Gulf of Aden, corresponding to modern coastal Eritrea and Djibouti.”[34]

The consensus view among the majority of Egyptologists is summed up by Ian Shaw from the Oxford History of Ancient Egypt:

“ There is still some debate regarding the precise location of Punt, which was once identified with the region of modern Somalia. A strong argument has now been made for its location in either southern Sudan or the Eritrea, where the indigenous plants and animals equate most closely with those depicted in the Egyptian reliefs and paintings.[35]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_Punt
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Kobojunkie: 6:03am On Sep 21, 2009
But, your PUNT theory above, has little connection to the question here. Neither does it answer it at all.

The ancient Egyptians lived close to the Nile,and they knew that their neighbors were black folks but choose to call their nation "THE BLACK NATION"? That does not make sense at all, at least to me. I am sorry, the LAND of PUNT theory does not seem to work well as you have explained it here.

Anywho, no need to try to explain this to me. I just would rather believe that our forefathers were not as racist and concerned about THEIR skin color and focused on their FEARS of those who were different as many of us today are.
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Nobody: 6:19am On Sep 21, 2009
But, your PUNT theory above, has little connection to the question here. Neither does it answer it at all.
I think it answers it fantastically. Punt is in East Africa. The Puntites were black folks, and if the Egyptians traced their roots to the land of Punt, then it means obviously the Egyptians were black people, no?

The ancient Egyptians lived close to the Nile,and they knew that their neighbors were black folks but choose to call their nation "THE BLACK NATION"? That does not make sense at all, at least to me.

First of all, the neighbours of Egypt were not all black people. Take a look at a map and you'll see that quite easily. Egypt borders the Meditarrenean. Those were seafaring days as well, so other races were well known and within view.


Anywhow, no need to try to explain this to me. I just would rather believe that our forefathers were not as racist and concerned about THEIR skin color and focused on their FEARS of those who were different as many of us today are

In many ways you are right. The Egyptians were not 'racist' by today's standards. Which was in fact an error on their part in retrospect. They allowed, in the spirit of ''universal brotherhood'', small bands of Asiatics to settle in their land, and, over centuries, those eventually grew into a force which helped their invading brethren to overturn the racial balance in the place and send the original Egyptians fleeing down south to escape massacres and enslavement.

If they had been more ''racist'', they would have prevented this foreign incursion and Egypt would still be an African nation today, not a place we have to watch as they saw off the artefact noses of African emperors, and alter black statues to look white and Arab, while spitting on Africans.

So yes, the Egyptians should have been far more ''racist'' than they were.
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Gamine(f): 12:45pm On Sep 21, 2009
Some of those figures look Indian
that Nerfititi looks like Angelina Jolie

Once again Egyptians were just Egyptians then,
regardless of what the color of their skin

To say that Kemet means Black, You talk like the Egyptians spoke English
Whats the origin of 'Black'
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by SapeleGuy: 1:08pm On Sep 21, 2009
Rossike - Don't waste your time trying to educate these 'coconuts' who believe nothing good can come out of africa.

If you were to go further and mention the fact the knowledge claimed by Pythagoras, Socrates and other 'greek scholars' was largely plagiarised after trips to KMT. These coconuts will have nervous breakdowns.

No credible egyptolgist any where in the world doubts that the early dynasties were black africans.

Rossike - Keep up the good work.
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Gamine(f): 1:20pm On Sep 21, 2009
You guys only seek to widen the divide.
When you realise that it was never about skin colour
HOW COULD IT BE undecided undecided undecided
The better for you.
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Kobojunkie: 1:23pm On Sep 21, 2009
ROSSIKE:

I think it answers it fantastically. Punt is in East Africa. The Puntites were black folks, and if the Egyptians traced their roots to the land of Punt, then it means obviously the Egyptians were black people, no?

But the NUBIANS were blacks living next door to the Ancient Egyptians. Egyptians DID not need to go all the way to EAST AFRICA to find black people because they were surrounded by black folks as their neighbors and even fought some of them.

ROSSIKE:

First of all, the neighbours of Egypt were not all black people. Take a look at a map and you'll see that quite easily. Egypt borders the Meditarrenean. Those were seafaring days as well, so other races were well known and within view.

They did not need to be ALL blacks for Egyptians to have black neighbors. Right to the south of them was the Nubians; still in the same area we call north Africa today.  It is likely there were other black civilizations in the area in Ancient Egypt.


ROSSIKE:

In many ways you are right. The Egyptians were not 'racist' by today's standards. Which was in fact an error on their part in retrospect. They allowed, in the spirit of ''universal brotherhood'', small bands of Asiatics to settle in their land, and, over centuries, those eventually grew into a force which helped their invading brethren to overturn the racial balance in the place and send the original Egyptians fleeing down south to escape massacres and enslavement.

If they had been more ''racist'', they would have prevented this foreign incursion and Egypt would still be an African nation today, not a place we have to watch as they saw off the artefact noses of African emperors, and alter black statues to look white and Arab, while spitting on Africans.

“If they had been more ''racist'', they would have prevented this foreign incursion”? I am sorry but no amount of anti-racist sentiments can win you wars. The “Foreign Incursion” you speak of was as a result of centuries of wars fought ; some won and others lost. To blame the Ancient Egyptians is to completely miss the point of history. Wars were fought, and many lost; that definitely changes the face of a nation, any nation.

ROSSIKE:

So yes, the Egyptians should have been far more ''racist'' than they were.

You really believe the reason why Egypt is today an arab nation is because the Egyptians were not Racist enough??


*** shudders***


I just wonder if there will be folks with this reasoning, say 200 years from now, who will claim that South Africans were just not RACIST ENOUGH and that be the reason why there exists White South Africans.
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Nobody: 5:19pm On Sep 21, 2009
kobojunkie said:

“If they had been more ''racist'', they would have prevented this foreign incursion”? I am sorry but no amount of anti-racist sentiments can win you wars. The “Foreign Incursion” you speak of was as a result of centuries of wars fought ; some won and others lost. To blame the Ancient Egyptians is to completely miss the point of history. Wars were fought, and many lost; that definitely changes the face of a nation, any nation.

Foreign incursion was not just about wars. As the Egyptian nation peaked in power and glory, bands of Asiatics started to arrive, as immigrant groups seeking a better life. They came in little, innocuous seeming groups, and were allowed to settle in the spirit of ''integration''.

As their numbers rose, they began seeking power by taking advantage of the African Matrilineal system, whereby the son of a person who married the sister of the king became next in line to the throne  after the latter's passing. In this way, and other nefarious methods, foreigners schemed the take-over of Egypt, even as the Africans played ''good brother''.

The plain verdict and lesson of history (and this is why the study of Egypt is SO important) is that wherever blacks allow the ''integration'' of whites, the latter will ALWAYS seek to be in the dominant position of power by any means possible. They will do this using a variety of methods including sowing animosity among the blacks and their leadership. The blacks were the world's first humanists. Color meant nothing to them. They were easily susceptible to the divide and rule tactics of the whites, joining forces with the whites to extinguish black rivals and so on. This happened even in the run-up to colonial rule when white invaders used soldiers from conquered blacks to fight and defeat other resistant blacks.

This ''colour blind'', ''we are family'' mentality of blacks is a problem even to this day.

Other races are busy scheming how to take over and destroy the blacks. But the blacks would always welcome them back, forgive and forget, only for the SAME thing to repeat itself, aeon after aeon, century after century.

It happened in ancient Ghana. Ancient Mali, Ancient Songhai. Who ruined all those empires? The same foreign invaders and their mulatto descendants. The mullatos always favoured their white/arab fathers' side, as their black mothers were the lowly slave girls raped by the invaders. Their mulatto descendants furthered the  endless wars against the blacks, pushing them further and further SOUTH away from the early centers of black civilization from Egypt to Libya and even Morocco.

These lands were all black held areas in antiquity. The loss of the northern coasts by the blacks led to the hemming in of the race within the continent, and this cutting off from trade and information routes of the Mediterranean led DIRECTLY to the regression of the black race in relation to the rest of the world.

What is happening in Sudan is a continuation of the ancient wars waged against the blacks. The whites or arabs or whatever you wish to call them, and their descendants are still fighting the wars to send the blacks down south.

In the meantime, modern folks lacking knowledge of African history call for more ''integration'' with whites. Afterall we are ''all brothers''. All ''One family''.

The problem with THAT worldview is that the rest of the globe does not see BLACKS as ''their brothers''. Therefore they will ALWAYS take advantage of your humanism, and destroy you further.

Until you WAKE UP and smell the coffee.

That is the sad verdict of history, from Egypt to Nubia, and from the Ghana Empire, to Mali. From the Zulus to ancient Benin, and from the Mossi to the Songhai and Ashanti. THESE are all empires destroyed directly and otherwise by non-African foreigners who were allowed to settle as ''friends and brothers'', only to scheme and destroy the civilization of their hosts.

The Destruction of Black Civilization is as good a book as any to intimate you further on these things. It was written by the late Dr Chancellor Williams, an African American historian who spent 16 years on field studies in Africa. A heavily researched work that's been described as ''the black man's bible''.

http://www.amazon.com/Destruction-Black-Civilization-Issues-D/dp/0883780305/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253550675&sr=1-1-spell

You would do well to read it.

Same goes for everyone else reading this, as there are very important lessons to be learnt therein.
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Kobojunkie: 5:31pm On Sep 21, 2009
You know what? I would rather stay COLOR BLIND and die that way. If it makes me an ignorant African, it is a price I am willing to pay. Thanks for the discourse!
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Nobody: 5:35pm On Sep 21, 2009
We all have choices, that's for sure. Having said that your personal feeling is really inconsequential here.

What counts is the way those who direct the affairs of Africans, such as ''our leaders'' approach the issue of international relations and geo-politics. Will they work with the knowledge of our history as a guide, or will they work without it and drive the race into a deeper ditch than at present?

That's the question.
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Kobojunkie: 5:44pm On Sep 21, 2009
ROSSIKE:

We all have choices, that's for sure. Having said that your personal feeling is really inconsequential here.

What counts is the way those who direct the affairs of Africans, such as ''our leaders'' approach the issue of international relations and geo-politics. Will they work with the knowledge of our history as a guide, or will they work without it and drive the race into a deeper ditch than at present?

That's the question.

Well, it seems they have been working with your script there considering TRIBALISM is now the order of the day in Nigeria. grin
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Nobody: 5:56pm On Sep 21, 2009
If ''tribalism'' is big in Africa, while the same folks engaged in such behaviour (or witnessing it, as in your case) would readily drop their guard and play happy smiling brother to the first Johnny foreigner who enters the scene, then there is a big problem. Afterall when brothers fight, a stranger moves in to steal.

I believe if Africans had imbibed the lessons of history, we would never have allowed the Structural Adjustment Programs of the 80s, prescribed by our ''brother white men'', which ruined our economies. We would not permit the ''Washington Consensus'' on development to hold sway on the continent, a philosophy which holds that a developing nation must open its market to foreign goods and devalue her currency, cut spending on public projects, education, health etc etc.

We would be far more DISTRUSTFUL and DISDAINFUL of foreign schemes aimed at ''helping'' us, because we would KNOW that the foreigners, having NEVER ''helped'' Africa in her 5,000 years of recorded history, aren't about to start doing so today.

We are in effect, on our own. The sooner we realise THIS, the sooner it will help to curb the ''tribalism'' and infighting among ourselves.
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by ezeagu(m): 6:05pm On Sep 21, 2009


This person looks like a Yoruba chick. shocked
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by bawomolo(m): 6:38pm On Sep 21, 2009
^^^

reaching.
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Gamine(f): 7:05pm On Sep 21, 2009
Yeah, that figure looks like a yoruba lady.
could also pass as asian.
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Nobody: 7:20pm On Sep 21, 2009
I don't know too many ''Asians'' of that color and range of features.

In any case, what would an ''Asian'' be doing in Africa? And wearing a Nubian wig?  shocked

Of course that's an African girl.
Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Nobody: 7:59pm On Sep 21, 2009
Rossike pls continue and thanks. Forget about the Ignoramuses.
Theres was a king in egypt called Usekafe. And do you know! The meaning word for word in my language bini is suffering precedes wealth. Thats a plain bini name.

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