tpia.:

nothing wrong with it.

the govt can set up mobile latrines for them.

Ok. now I agree. If anything, I think they have been discipline enough to centralize their latrine area for one. lol. Not that I am praising the behaviour but they could have easily made the areas around their property free for all but they chose to have a latrine in a central location. Problem is the location is Situated on a river that serves all of their community and probably the whole state.

well, they may have to move to dry ground.

why should the government set up anything for them?
it is there personal life if they wan to shit and live there its their business. If it was any other country those houses would have been knocked down SINCE.

This is the problem;

[list]
[li]Shits in the water[/li]
[li]Drinks the water[/li]
[li]Washes dishes in the water[/li]
[li]Uses shit as bait to catch fish[/li]
[li]Bathes in the water[/li]
[li]Shits everywhere apart from just the water, where toddlers put same shitty soil in their mouths[/li]
[/list]

[size=14pt]If this isn't living like animals, tell me what is.[/size]
Something needs to be done instead of the lame excuses that we are getting from apologists here.

sjeezy8:

What are you saying? do you make sense any time shiot

If you have a problem understanding QUESTIONS asked, you either

a) Not respond at all and let those who know how to answer questions provide answers

b) Or ask further questions to help you better understand what was asked in the first place



No need to continue showing your ignorance every time you feel you can

Beaf:

This is the problem;

[list]
[li]Shits in the water[/li]
[li]Drinks the water[/li]
[li]Washes dishes in the water[/li]
[li]Uses shit as bait to catch fish[/li]
[li]Bathes in the water[/li]
[li]Shits everywhere apart from just the water, where toddlers put same shitty soil in their mouths[/li]
[/list]

[size=14pt]If this isn't living like animals, tell me what is.[/size]
Something needs to be done instead of the lame excuses that we are getting from apologists here.

what lame excuse?

various solutions have been suggested:

- move to another area

- get them mobile toilets

-get them health workers who speak their language

-relocate their open toilet

-educate them on health, sickness and hygiene.



why not add more instead of just complaining.

btw, someone can come to YOUR house, film you while you're on your toilet, and say the same thing about you- namely that you're living like an animal.

and why would someone film people while they're pooping?

Most of the issues you raised here should be handled mainly by educating the people on the importance of hygiene and going the extra mile to purify their water before using it.

tpia.:


what lame excuse?

various solutions have been suggested:

- move to another area

- get them mobile toilets

-get them health workers who speak their language

-relocate their open toilet

-educate them on health, sickness and hygiene.


why not add more instead of just complaining.

btw, someone can come to YOUR house, film you while you're on your toilet, and say the same thing about you- namely that you're living like an animal.

and why would someone film people while they're pooping?

Most of the issues you raised here should be handled mainly by educating the people on the importance of hygiene and going the extra mile to purify their water before using it.

The problems highlighted in the video are not in anyway knew, Neither are the solutions. They have been around in the same regions for decades now.

tpia.:

what lame excuse?

various solutions have been suggested:
- move to another area
- get them mobile toilets
-get them health workers who speak their language
-relocate their open toilet
-educate them on health, sickness and hygiene.
why not add more instead of just complaining.

what language? english? these people are not living in a remote village in the middle of nowhere

Venice is build on water!

Kobojunkie:

The problems highlighted in the video are not in anyway knew, Neither are the solutions. They have been around in the same regions for decades now.

Nigeria has a very poor maintenance culture.

Something may have been done before, but faded away like morning dew, I'm sure.

sjeezy8:

what language? english? these people are not living in a remote village in the middle of nowhere

the health worker said they dont speak english.

tpia.:






what lame excuse?

various solutions have been suggested:

- move to another area

- get them mobile toilets

-get them health workers who speak their language

-relocate their open toilet

-educate them on health, sickness and hygiene.



why not add more instead of just complaining.

btw, someone can come to YOUR house, film you while you're on your toilet, and say the same thing about you- namely that you're living like an animal.

and why would someone film people while they're pooping?

Most of the issues you raised here should be handled mainly by educating the people on the importance of hygiene and going the extra mile to purify their water before using it.

Your suggestions will not work if they are not counselled psychologically. After thinking about it, I found that something is intrinsically wrong with anybody who doesn't develop butterflies in his or her stomach while eating a fish fed with their village poo. They are human scanvengers and it doesn't matter if you take them to the White House, that piggish behaviour will persist.

back2back:

Venice is build on water!

true, but Venice is thousands of years old. This community is probably a fairly recent one, maybe not even up to a hundred years. I'm sure it probably got congested as a result of the population explosion in lagos.


however, nothing wrong with learning from Venice.

back2back:

Venice is build on water!

Thank you very much.

tpia.:

what lame excuse?

various solutions have been suggested:

- move to another area

- get them mobile toilets

-get them health workers who speak their language

-relocate their open toilet

-educate them on health, sickness and hygiene.

why not add more instead of just complaining.

Those are shallow solutions at best. In any event, more than one of the residents was interviewed in English and responded in English. The only solution to the problem is a contructive govt presence.

Currently, there is no sign of govt in their lives (they lack every basic human right, water, electricity, health services etc). They are a failure of govt (a very typical Nigerian issue).

tpia.:

the health worker said they dont speak english.

that health worker is a bloody liar, did we not see them speaking english?

Aloy~Emeka:

Your suggestions will not work if they are not counselled psychologically. After thinking about it, I found that something is intrinsically wrong with anybody who doesn't develop butterflies in his or her stomach while eating a fish fed with their village poo. They are human scanvengers and it doesn't matter if you take them to the White House, that piggish behaviour will persist.

well, dont look a gift horse too closely in the mouth.

its disgusting no doubt but poverty is terrible- cant argue with that.

sjeezy8:

that health worker is a bloody liar, did we not see them speaking english?

What will be her reason for lying  about the need for a local to help in communication barriers?

Makoko is NOT a remote village. Neither is Majidun or many other communities along the river side in the state.

Kobojunkie:

Makoko is NOT a remote village. Neither is Majidun or many other communities along the river side in the state.

They are remote in the sense that the basic amenities for human existence are scarcely there. One thing they have in abundance there is food albeit fed with poo.

Aloy~Emeka:

What will be her reason for lying  about the need for a local to help in communication barriers?

communication ko just for shock value or sympathy.

they spoke english fine to me

sjeezy8:

communication ko just for shock value or sympathy.

they spoke english fine to me

Who are they apart from the LG chairman and 3 others that can hardly communicate in pidgin?. Do you know the population of these villages?. If her assertion is incorrect, the journalist would have brought it up. What is your point?

Beaf:

Those are shallow solutions at best. In any event, more than one of the residents was interviewed in English and responded in English. The only solution to the problem is a contructive govt presence.

Currently, there is no sign of govt in their lives (they lack every basic human right, water, electricity, health services etc). They are a failure of govt (a very typical Nigerian issue).

In the village, sometimes when people dont have tap water, they use alum to purify their water from other sources- namely stream or rain water.

People wash clothes and bathe in rivers. Dont know if they also do the other stuff there.

There was a widespread campaign against guinea worm at one time- dont know what became of that.

Did you not see a health worker and health center in the video? It was right there but it seems invisible to you.

Aloy~Emeka:

They are remote in the sense that the basic amenities for human existence are scarcely there. One thing they have in abundance there is food albeit fed with poo.

If that were the case, then many other communities not along the river would fall under the same list. This is not a remote area at all. Sure, basic amenities remain scarce but remoteness is most definitely no reason why that continues to be the case.

Kobojunkie:

Makoko is NOT a remote village. Neither is Majidun or many other communities along the river side in the state.

So why should excrement become strategic to their existense if not for a collective failure of govts (past and present)?
Why should some of us here have seen the people themselves as the problem and not the Nigerian system? What we have witnessed in that video is a people so marginalised that they have regressed to the animal World.

It is a disgrace and we should kick against it, not defend it.

tpia:
btw, someone can come to YOUR house, film you while you're on your toilet, and say the same thing about you- namely that you're living like an animal.

and why would someone film people while they're pooping? Huh

Guess why that would never happen.

sjeezy8:

that health worker is a bloody liar, did we not see them speaking english?

she may have been referring to others, not the ones in the first part of the video.

The health clinic was on dry ground while the other people interviewed were on water.

Beaf:

So why should excrement become strategic to their existense if not for a collective failure of govts (past and present)?
Why should some of us here have seen the people themselves as the problem and not the Nigerian system? What we have witnessed in that video is a people so marginalised that they have regressed to the animal World.

It is a disgrace and we should kick against it, not defend it.

Guess why that would never happen.

stop calling them animals!!! sheesh!!!!!

dont you poop abi whats with the snotty attitude.

Kobojunkie:

If that were the case, then many other communities not along the river would fall under the same list. This is not a remote area at all. Sure, basic amenities remain scarce but remoteness is most definitely no reason why that continues to be the case.

Have you considered their access to other parts of the state? Bonny island is not bad but its isolated from the rest of Rivers state. If access to that village is only by water, then development will still be stunted. Bonny faired well because of oil exploration.

tpia.:

stop calling them animals!!! sheesh!!!!!

dont you poop abi whats with the snotty attitude.

And eat from it and wash dishes in it? Please no!

I said they have regressed to the animal World (and will continue to say so), not that they are animals.

Aloy~Emeka:

Have you considered there access to other parts of the state? Bonny island is not bad but its isolated from the rest of Rivers state. If access to that village is only by water, then development will still be stunted. Bonny faired well because of oil exploration.

This particular community is NO ISLAND. If you look real closely at the pictures, you will see the highrise buildings in the distance. Access to many of these communities is not just by water but also by land. Majidun is by the river and some of the houses on the river but access is by land on the most part. Same with river side communities in places like Ibeshe and even Makoko.

Beaf:

Those are shallow solutions at best. In any event, more than one of the residents was interviewed in English and responded in English. The only solution to the problem is a contructive govt presence.

Currently, there is no sign of govt in their lives (they lack every basic human right, water, electricity, health services etc). They are a failure of govt (a very typical Nigerian issue).

Do you have constructive government presence in your own village?. Nigerians develop themselves with their resources and  hoping on their government is  a far cry. The max you can see is that local government chairman who tried to deny the reporters discoveries before her. Why should such a person offer any help?. May be he is the only educated person from that area and he is using that opportunity to enrich himself.

Beaf:

So why should excrement become strategic to their existense if not for a collective failure of govts (past and present)?
Why should some of us here have seen the people themselves as the problem and not the Nigerian system? What we have witnessed in that video is a people so marginalised that they have regressed to the animal World.

It is a disgrace and we should kick against it, not defend it.

Guess why that would never happen.

I am in no way condoning this at all and I definitely know this has to do with failure of government in dealing with this. And I applaud the lady for taking time to tell the story of these people. All I see her doing is bringing a true issue to the attention of the government, so as it deals with other issues, it can also deal with issues that DIRECTLY affect the people on a daily basis.  More of this is NEEDED, if you ask me, rather than the mundane act of sitting back, waiting for the next time we can clap for the governors for doing what they were hired to do.