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Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:37pm On Jun 10, 2017 |
Is it right in the 'eyes of God' for a single Christian man who has never married before to bear children through surrogacy ? You know just to circumvent fornication which is a sin . 1 Like |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by IBpaul(m): 11:42pm On Jun 10, 2017 |
How will u see yourself if u were born through surrogacy 1 Like |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Nobody: 11:47pm On Jun 10, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: I thank God you stated the emboldened. We're Humans without knowledge of what is right in the eyes of God. We can only hope to do things that do not prick our conscience; that, after all, is where God lives in us. Shalom! 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by felixomor: 11:52pm On Jun 10, 2017 |
It depends on the motive of the man. Why exactly he is opting for surrogacy. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:03am On Jun 11, 2017 |
felixomor: He is rich and famous and fear that he won't find true love or would meet an unfaithful woman who would trick him into marriage and then divorce him just to take a large part of his wealth . |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:05am On Jun 11, 2017 |
iamadonis2: True . So what do you think ? Did you feel uneasy at the thought of the question ? |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:12am On Jun 11, 2017 |
IBpaul: I'd try to understand the circumstances that led to that . If there is a good reason for that then I see no reason why I'd be resentful . So what about the OP , please share your thoughts . |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by felixomor: 12:31am On Jun 11, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: Hmmmm. (Thinking ) 1 Like |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Nobody: 3:45am On Jun 11, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:I think we need to define fornication, which in my opinion, has a very wide definition in "Gods eyes". But good news for him, it seems men can get away with more than women, in the sense that men can easily have more than one wife - not women. The only difference is that he can't get rid of them casually. Tell him to get married in a country like US which allows for couple to sign a document establishing how the property will be OR will not be divided in case of a divorce. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Amberon11: 4:52am On Jun 11, 2017 |
No it is not. |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Nobody: 7:28am On Jun 11, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: Nah. I'd do it if I needed to. |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Nobody: 8:09am On Jun 11, 2017 |
Will the initial process of sperm retrieval involve masturbation? Then it's a sin but without the masturbation, how is surrogacy a sin, it isn't |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Joshthefirst(m): 10:43am On Jun 11, 2017 |
Pidgin2:Why is masturbation a sin? It's just a question. No strings attached. In medicine we may want to examine semen for some issues like fertility, etc. The man has to ejaculate and bring samples. I don't know of any non-surgical method of sperm retrieval without erection and ejaculation. To the op, I think as someone has already said, it all depends on motive. I see no wrong in surrogacy itself. My opinion. But I'll also advise that it is healthy for a child to grow up in a stable family environment with a mother and a father. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by felixomor: 11:31am On Jun 11, 2017 |
Joshthefirst: Masturbation done for medical purpose isnt a sin. But u and I know majority dont do it for medical purpose Masturbation falls under Lasciviousness. Its a manifestation of the flesh. It has killed the spirituality of many young men. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Nobody: 1:30pm On Jun 11, 2017 |
Joshthefirst: As to your question, won't they give him pornographic materials to view so that he can get aroused? The photos he looks at to get an erection are not his spouse's image, they belong to other women so he has committed a sexual act with the image of a woman he's not married to 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by CoolUsername: 2:46pm On Jun 11, 2017 |
Pidgin2: Ok, what if he only uses furry tentacle alien hentai? Edit: But seriously though, is there any situation that it would be ok? |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Joshthefirst(m): 2:57pm On Jun 11, 2017 |
felixomor:In some places abortion(one not done to save the mother's life) is considered a routine medical procedure. Doesn't make it right. Pidgin2:I understand, and I largely have this piont of view, but I have a question about it also. Single unmarried men also may undergo fertility testing requiring them to produce semen for examination. What do you say to that? Note that I also believe thinking lustfully about someone who isn't your wife is wrong. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by ScepticalPyrrho: 3:03pm On Jun 11, 2017 |
I'm here to read comments. Science, making sin, right and wrong, harder to define as we know more about the universe. 3 Likes |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:13pm On Jun 11, 2017 |
Joshthefirst: I don't think its a sin that pornographic images are used to sexually arouse the man so that his sperm can be retrieved . Use this logic : Killing is a sin but war against an oppressive enemy , self defence and abortion to save the mother's life are not considered sinful. When you stare lustfully at a woman , its for the pleasure of the flesh but if you need to so as to run fertility tests then why should it be a sin ? How else will orgasm be achieved if not through steady arousal ? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Nobody: 3:33pm On Jun 11, 2017 |
CoolUsername: Maybe if he does it to save someone's life 1 Like |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Nobody: 3:34pm On Jun 11, 2017 |
Joshthefirst: That would be fornication |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Nobody: 3:49pm On Jun 11, 2017 |
CoolUsername: thanks for expanding my knowledge. I just searched "furry tentacle alien hentai" so people do jerk off to that? it's weird |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:59pm On Jun 11, 2017 |
proudafrogal: I think it was a joke . |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by CoolUsername: 4:32pm On Jun 11, 2017 |
proudafrogal: - a 15 year old male virgin - looking to relieve stress - starts off with vanilla stuff - doesn't quite cut it after the first 13 views - decides to move on to stranger stuff - repeat the two previous steps a couple of times - voila! You've become a perverted deviant 1 Like |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by jonbellion(m): 4:40pm On Jun 11, 2017 |
CoolUsername:chaii this boy you've gone in way too deep I first saw that in family guy |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Joshthefirst(m): 5:50pm On Jun 11, 2017 |
Pidgin2:So a man receiving treatment for say a prolactinoma cannot undergo a fertility review? I find this unsuitable. I still hold on to motives in this case shaa. God will discern, not us. We learn everyday. 2 Likes |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Joshthefirst(m): 5:55pm On Jun 11, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:Lol. I have no answer to this bro. I have no labels to pin here. Whatever anyone does in this case is between that person and God. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Nobody: 5:57pm On Jun 11, 2017 |
CoolUsername:Hmmmm interesting |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Nobody: 6:00pm On Jun 11, 2017 |
Joshthefirst: she also thinks visiting a male gynecologist as a woman is a sin. yet Muslims are the fundamentalists. I'm watching her in 3D 1 Like |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Proudlyngwa(m): 6:04pm On Jun 11, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: All knowledge comes from the Almighty Father. The abuse of such knowledge is an act of the devil. Surrogacy was an inspiration to help couples who couldn't give birth naturally due to some circumstances beyond their control, just like the Internet it has become hijacked for negative intentions. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Ishilove: 6:34pm On Jun 11, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:Brotherly, this your question get as e be Why circumvent the natural mode of conception just because you can, not because you need to? Couples who use surrogacy have medical issues, but using it because you don't want to have sex with a woman is vanity. It's evil 2 Likes |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:33pm On Jun 11, 2017 |
Ishilove: But how ? Some people have different choices and desires . Someone may not be ready for marriage but is ready for fatherhood . It sounds like its all misplaced priority because its not a conventional practice . Its not me oo sha 1 Like |
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