shokpeti:

Ehen ! There you have it. Need I say more?

Shey isi good to make oneself Olopka ?

I am Pope and Ayatollah of the Religion of Objectivity and Intelligence.

I will not let people insult my religion. So I became self-appointed Olopa!

Abi you will let anyone insult Jesus/Mohammed?

Busy_body:


lol, won ti bi e na

But he/she/it has a point though about the white influence/factor in South Africa. When the whites were in Zimbabwe, no one in the West had a bad word to say about the Country despite the fact that majority of those farm produce were not produced for the locals and level of poverty was relatively high like the rest of Africa, but the moment Mugabe rightly told them to sling their hook, they destroyed their farming equipment rendering it useless, they colluded with IMF to force Zimbabwe to repay its debt outrightly whilst further loaning money to other African Countries, they coerced other Countries to stop trading with Zimbabwe, IMF refused Zimbabwe credit facilities to cripple them from being able to purchase necessary farming equipment, they started embelishing the news to make it look like Zimbabwe was in ruins yet later evidence revealed they even managed to commence on some rail project during these trying times, they used tsvangarai to block Mugabe's moves to peg the price of goods so that the masses would not suffer as a result of the quantitative easing he was implementing, there were even reports that the SA xenophobic attack was orchestrated to make it look like SA is groaning under the influx of the Zims who had sought refuge in the Country, to further make Mugabe look bad etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. POLITICS


Which begs the question, if SA is the giant of Africa in terms of them having the most robust economy in Africa, why is foreign aid to the region collectively the highest, when pro-rated to the other Countries AGAIN POLITICS

do you know mubabe very well or you fall under his charm of sweet excellent english

look how his ministers are fools

they get conned by a traditional healer who went to school as far as 3rd grade

he conned them saying pure dieseal was oozing from rocks

Busy body, look at these reports:

http://www.networkideas.org/alt/mar2002/Zimbabwe_Plunge.pdf (See page 8 to 10)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/the_economy/464567.stm (They were already struggling before land grabs)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/751072.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/955657.stm

A country that is already in financial straits went to war and was burning cash. War is not a productive engagement, it is a waste/destructive engagement. Even the US is suffering from fighting 2 wars simultaneously.

Zimbabwe was already badly managed and Mugabe saw his head was on the line, so in early 200 he started his land grab which was just a distraction and cheap political vote seeking.

shokpeti:

@Guru Roymary,

We are all patriotic but there are arguements that are plain silly.
 
SA is a bigger economy than Nigeria. Period.

Your condition(100% black) does not hold water and is laughable.

You have no idea what prompted my  view and response!!! Don't jump the gun already! In my world, with all the craziness going on in this country, Nigeria still has the best economy in Africa and one that is most promising! I'm an IT specialist and not an economist so i might not explain all that to you figuratively and honestly, i'm putting an end to this madness. I see beyond today, we have a great future ahead and all we need do, is to work on our flaws. Its annoying and pathetic when we ridicule ourselves like this.

Y'all can keep on disgracing our nation; especially, that Sagamite UK Babysitter.

roymary:


You have no idea what prompted my  view and response!!! Don't jump the gun already! In my world, with all the craziness going on in this country, Nigeria still has the best economy in Africa and one that is most promising! I'm an IT specialist and not an economist so i might not explain all that to you figuratively and honestly, i'm putting an end to this madness. I see beyond today, we have a great future ahead and all we need do, is to work on our flaws. Its annoying and pathetic when we ridicule ourselves like this.

Y'all can keep on disgracing our nation; especially, that Sagamite UK Babysitter.

Mugu, potential economies are not Giants. Real economies are.

They did not teach that in Comcast Internetworking training? 

Your world?

Your world is backroom with LAN, WAN, Routers, switches, protocols, TCP/IP packets etc. It is not a world of lateral thinking and foresight.

So shut up and leave economies, governance, international trade, philosophy and markets to those that have a clue. 

ZIM DRILL:

ignorant ?

so i guess i can tell better history of nigerian based on what i read than a person who was born and raised in nigeria

all i want to tell you the version of events from from a zimbabwean who has seen two side of zimbabwe i.e what smith government left and when mugabe took over and to where we are now

unfortunately you bicker with insults than having a normal converstaion

what an analogy Thank God i passed over the offer of the lecture

ZIM DRILL:

about zimbabwe ask me i will tell you a well balanced view

[size=16pt]if thats the case about whites why cant you be partners in with them and develop your country[/size]

Is this what is deemed "the start of a normal conversation" in your neck of the woods Seen why the hyprocrite tag i gave you fits you perfectly?

Sagamite:

Honestly, I won't really believe that.

Mugabe was already misadministrating the economy, when it was clear he was going to lose elections, he sought cheap popularity by going village manistic with forced-irrational and disordered land reallocation.

Which was all noise as it was distributed to his fellow corrupt official.

No land re-claiming should EVER be conducted in the retarded manner they did, that is what sent the economy plunging.

He was not misadministrating anything, they WEST came down hard on him the moment he took back those lands, and when he claimed back the lands that belonged to him and his fellow Zims, they cried wolf rightaway, so when did he get the window of opportunity to misadministrate funds?

Was the forced re-allocation of land back to the rightful owner a knee-jerk reaction by Mugabe that was done on the spur of the moment?

How long had the British falsely been promising to give these lands back to the Zims who were the rightful owner?

Why was he not allowed credit to purchase farming equipments, or how many briefcases of cash would they have had to be carrying ang lugging round the whole world to purchase these equipment?

Why was he the only one forced to pay back loans they allowed others to keep(gimme my toy back, i am not playing with you again, you are not my friend, childish move comes to mind)

Why wasn't he allowed to peg the price of goods? If Tsvangarai was the man of the people, why block this move that would have enabled people to be able to afford to put food on their table?


Thank God , the credit crunch that led to UK printing money too saved us from daily news about Zimbabwe on BBC (karma is a naughty woman innit, Zimbabwe was credit crunched by IMF hence reason they started printing money) such as Zimbabwe has chronic power cut system (are they the only Country in Africa this happens to) 20 people died of cholera, a shanty town was razed, everyone is suffering and dying in Zimbabwe, etc.

If the West cared about the people of Zimbabwe, why force them to repay the loan they got in one go, money he paid in two instalment, and in such time of austerity too, if not to bring Zimbabwe to it knees whilst pinning the blame on Mugabe? Why deny them credit to purchase farming equipment? Why give further loans to other African Countries to date, except Zimbabwe Aren't the lives of young children with valuable lives and pregnant women too not worth the important

Sagamite:

Mugu, potential economies are not Giants. Real economies are.

They did not teach that in Comcast Internetworking training? 

Your world?

Your world is backroom with LAN, WAN, Routers, switches, protocols, TCP/IP packets etc. It is not a world of lateral thinking and foresight.

So shut up and leave economies, governance, international trade and markets to those that have a clue. 

I know an asshol-e will get the whole thing wrong! The only message i get from you is that Nigeria is doomed. You are shameless. A noisemaker! Thats what you are!  
You keep criticizing the government here, are you not a citizen of this nation? What positive impact have you made? Rather than complaints and desire for fortune that you did not keep in the UK?

If those LANs , WANs and MANs are not in place, you will not even have the opportunity to be on Nairaland to exhibit your madness.

Once again, keep babysitting.

Sagamite:

Busy body, look at these reports:

http://www.networkideas.org/alt/mar2002/Zimbabwe_Plunge.pdf (See page 8 to 10)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/the_economy/464567.stm (They were already struggling before land grabs)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/751072.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/955657.stm

A country that is already in financial straits went to war and was burning cash. War is not a productive engagement, it is a waste/destructive engagement. Even the US is suffering from fighting 2 wars simultaneously.

Zimbabwe was already badly managed and Mugabe saw his head was on the line, so in early 200 he started his land grab which was just a distraction and cheap political vote seeking.

Sagamite, i am not saying Zimbabwe and all the other Countries in Africa mind you, are/were not being mismanaged, but the same thing happening in Zimbabwe, is the same thing happening all over Africa, so why scapegoat them only? Is he the only President clinging to power as claimed


When you see the bigger picture, it will be clear to you that Mugabe did his people a favour by sending Britain and co, packing with their tails between their legs, preventing them from ending up  like Haiti

ZIM DRILL:

do you know mubabe very well or you fall under his charm of sweet excellent english

look how his ministers are fools

they get conned by a traditional healer who went to school as far as 3rd grade

he conned them saying pure dieseal was oozing from rocks

Wow, yet more "normal conversation" from the lecturer wannabe

Busy_body:

He was not misadministrating anything, they WEST came down hard on him the moment he took back those lands, and when he claimed back the lands that belonged to him and his fellow Zims, they cried wolf rightaway, so when did he get the window of opportunity to misadministrate funds?

The economy was already struggling as at late 90s and going out to fight wars worsened it. They were already missing payment rounds with the WB and IMF by this period.

The land grab only began in early 2000.

Busy_body:

Was the forced re-allocation of land back to the rightful owner a knee-jerk reaction by Mugabe that was done on the spur of the moment?

It was a nonsensical populist election action with a deranged implementation.

No one says do not take the land but that was a retarded and destructive way to do it.

Busy_body:

How long had the British falsely been promising to give these lands back to the Zims who were the rightful owner?

Maybe that might be true, I don't know. But I know Mugabe did nothing about it until he was about to lose an election.

And no sane leader will expect the approach used of telling illiterate sanguinary retards to go out and grab land will work. It was pure gimmick!

Busy_body:

Why was he not allowed credit to purchase farming equipments, or how many briefcases of cash would they have had to be carrying ang lugging round the whole world to purchase these equipment?

Because he had missed repayments on existing loans. The Intl orgs were following their standard processes.

He mismanaged and wasted money on a war. Wars are expensive.

Busy_body:

Why was he the only one forced to pay back loans they allowed others to keep(gimme my toy back, i am not playing with you again, you are not my friend, childish move comes to mind)

I don't believe this story, never seen such report.

And if I saw it, I will want to know if it breaks the WB/IMF processes.

Giving loans, involve signing a contract. Contract terms have to be followed and the borrower will know what it entails.

Busy_body:

Why wasn't he allowed to peg the price of goods? If Tsvangarai was the man of the people, why block this move that would have enabled people to be able to afford to put food on their table?

I think pegging would have affected farmers and damaged export that the economy needed.

A country that has to peg prices for people to afford food shows the government has mismanaged.

Busy_body:

Thank God , the credit crunch that led to UK printing money too saved us from daily news about Zimbabwe on BBC (karma is a naughty woman innit, Zimbabwe was credit crunched by IMF hence reason they started printing money) such as Zimbabwe has chronic power cut system (are they the only Country in Africa this happens to) 20 people died of cholera, a shanty town was razed, everyone is suffering and dying in Zimbabwe, etc.

If the West cared about the people of Zimbabwe, why force them to repay the loan they got in one go, money he paid in two instalment, and in such time of austerity too, if not to bring Zimbabwe to it knees whilst pinning the blame on Mugabe? Why deny them credit to purchase farming equipment? Why give further loans to other African Countries to date, except Zimbabwe Aren't the lives of young children with valuable lives and pregnant women too not worth the important  

Mugabe has been in power for 30 years, he is in his 80s, the economy has been mismanaged, he is not the only man that can rule Zim. He should not be clinging to power till his death.

roymary:

I know an asshol-e will get the whole thing wrong! The only message i get from you is that Nigeria is doomed. You are shameless. A noisemaker! Thats what you are!  
You keep criticizing the government here, are you not a citizen of this nation? What positive impact have you made? Rather than complaints and desire for fortune that you did not keep in the UK?

You are retarded!

Conjecture throwing slowpoke! Where did I say Nigeria was doomed? Is that what they teach in Comcast internetworking training?

If you can not get visa, don't take frustration out on me. I was born here and I am a citizen.

roymary:

If those LANs , WANs and MANs are not in place, you will not even have the opportunity to be on Nairaland to exhibit your madness.

Once again, keep babysitting.

Don't get it twisted.

I appreciate what you are doing in internetworking. All I am saying is sit in the backroom, shut up and set up the infrastructure. When Xmas comes, the top guys like me will show their gratitude and send you a pair of socks. Do not engage in things above your thinking level.

Busy_body:



Sagamite, i am not saying Zimbabwe and all the other Countries in Africa mind you, are/were not being mismanaged, but the same thing happening in Zimbabwe, is the same thing happening all over Africa, so why scapegoat them only? Is he the only President clinging to power as claimed


When you see the bigger picture, it will be clear to you that Mugabe did his people a favour by sending Britain and co, packing with their tails between their legs, preventing them from ending up  like Haiti    

He was the only one sending mobs into the streets to UNILATERALLY go and reclaim land. That is on par with Nigerian government telling areaboys to go amok.

That is madness! Oyinbos are normally interested and fascinated when we Africans or others display our madness.

They did the same with East Timoa.

They did the same with Kosovo.

Sagamite:

You are retarded!

Conjecture throwing slowpoke! Where did I say Nigeria was doomed? Is that what they teach in Comcast internetworking training?

If you can not get visa, don't take frustration out on me. I was born here and I am a citizen.

Don't get it twisted.

I appreciate what you are doing in internetworking. All I am saying is sit in the backroom, shut up and set up the infrastructure. When Xmas comes, the top guys like me will show their gratitude and send you a pair of socks. Do not engage in things above your thinking level.

Found out they know you as a noisemaker already, and I'm glad "Busy-body" is schooling you some already. UK citizen my foot!

Visa to the UK? You are one crazy guy: i never had a problem going to the UK, Been to better places.

**I still be leaf South african womens have the biggest Nyansh on the planet, FACT***

Sagamite:

The economy was already struggling as at late 90s and going out to fight wars worsened it. They were already missing payment rounds with the WB and IMF by this period.

Again every other African Countries missed payments too, infact if my memory serves me right, Nigeria actually had some debt cancelled during this same period, which begs the question, why cancel some Countries' loan, whilst telling Zimbabwe to repay all in full, knowing the whole Continent of Africa was suffering

Sagamite:

The land grab only began in early 2000.

The promise to return these lands to their rightful owners started way back before the early 2000's.

Sagamite:


It was a nonsensical populist election action with a deranged implementation.

No one says do not take the land but that was a retarded and destructive way to do it.

If you "borrow" something for me and you keep swerving and delaying when you will hand it back to me and i see no end in sight, don't i deserve the right to carry cutlass come chop off your abuna  

Sagamite:


Maybe that might be true, I don't know. But I know Mugabe did nothing about it until he was about to lose an election.

And no sane leader will expect the approach used of telling illiterate sanguinary retards to go out and grab land will work. It was pure gimmick!

Nope, he had been asking but kept getting fobbed off, from M.THatcher, to John Major, to Tony Blair, enough just freaking got enough

Sagamite:


Because he had missed repayments on existing loans. The Intl orgs were following their standard processes.

He mismanaged and wasted money on a war. Wars are expensive.

Again, they didn't follow standards, they demanded the money back outrightly, whilst cancelling other's Country's as well as giving these other Countries further loans Aren't we all Africans

Sagamite:


I don't believe this story, never seen such report.

And if I saw it, I will want to know if it breaks the WB/IMF processes.

Giving loans, involve signing a contract. Contract terms have to be followed and the borrower will know what it entails.

Of course, IMF messed up, but since when did they start giving a hoot about anyone. They even colluded with the rest of the West to deem Zimbabwe one of the Countries in "the axis of evil" Why pray tell - for holding on to power, for collecting what belonged to him, for the 20 people cholera killed, for closing oneshanty town, lol

Sagamite:


I think pegging would have affected farmers and damaged export that the economy needed.

Printing money without this measures in place would have sent the price of food soaring, which was what unfortunately happened, besides this was not going to be as permanent thing, so the farmers could have been given some subsidies to tide things over.

Sagamite:


A country that has to peg prices for people to afford food shows the government has mismanaged.

Nope, the only reason he wanted to do this was because of quantitative easing because they were forced to repay money they were loaned abruptly and because of lack of access to credit, they needed curencies in higher denomination to be able to exchange large sums at a go, in the currency market.

Sagamite:


Mugabe has been in power for 30 years, he is in his 80s, the economy has been mismanaged, he is not the only man that can rule Zim. He should not be clinging to power till his death.

Well, like i said before, they knew this, yet turned a blind eye until he started claiming back what was once his Heck, he even comes there a lot

Sagamite:

He was the only one sending mobs into the streets to UNILATERALLY go and reclaim land. That is on par with Nigerian government telling areaboys to go amok.

That is madness! Oyinbos are normally interested and fascinated when we Africans or others display our madness.

They did the same with East Timoa.

They did the same with Kosovo.

Mobs *raises one eybrow* hmmm,
Propaganda with more politicking

Busy_body:

Again every other African Countries missed payments too, infact if my memory serves me right, Nigeria actually had some debt cancelled during this same period, which begs the question, why cancel some Countries' loan, whilst telling Zimbabwe to repay all in full, knowing the whole Continent of Africa was suffering

Every other African country missed payment?

Nope! Where did you get that info from?

Nigeria had its debt from the Paris club cancelled. Not from WB/IMF. There are multiple sources and ways countries raise finance.

There is one thing to miss payment, there is another to miss it for 6 straight months (after missing rows in the recent past) and all economic indicators show you will not be able to make the next ones. Even at unitary retail mortgage level, there will be a point where you will miss so much payment and you miss 3 straight months, your house will be repossessed. And it will all be in your contract. So for it to be an argument that every other African country missed payments, it has to be shown they missed it on par with Zimbabwe (hence months of missed payments) and were given special treatment or treatment differing from WB processes. They don't teach this in Comcast Internetworking training o.

Busy_body:

The promise to return these lands to their rightful owners started way back before the early 2000's.

No doubt. But the madness that brought the country to its knees only started in early 2000 when Mugabe saw he was going to lose an election and sought a moronic gimmick to please illiterate voters.

Busy_body:

If you "borrow" something for me and you keep swerving and delaying when you will hand it back to me and i see no end in sight, don't i deserve the right to carry cutlass come chop off your abuna  

Not really.  Not in a sane environment.

Otherwise all those girls that lead me on and chop my money all with a promise that one day I will get some punans that somehow does not materialises, I can carry a cutlass to. 

Busy_body:

Nope, he had been asking but kept getting fobbed off, from M.THatcher, to John Major, to Tony Blair, enough just freaking got enough

If he was genuine. He could have still seized the lands and redistribute orderly without having to tell illiterate morons to go out with cutlass and violently harass people.

Busy_body:

Again, they didn't follow standards, they demanded the money back outrightly, whilst cancelling other's Country's as well as giving these other Countries further loans Aren't we all Africans

I don't believe this. If you have a good source let me see.

Busy_body:

Of course, IMF messed up, but since when did they start giving a hoot about anyone. They even colluded with the rest of the West to deem Zimbabwe one of the Countries in "the axis of evil" Why pray tell - for holding on to power, for collecting what belonged to him, for the 20 people cholera killed, for closing oneshanty town, lol

I would be very surprised if this was true. Axis of evil only compiled countries US sees as a threat of international terrorism or chemical warfare.

Busy_body:

Printing money without this measures in place would have sent the price of food soaring, which was what unfortunately happened, besides this was not going to be as permanent thing, so the farmers could have been given some subsidies to tide things over.

Subsidies from where?

A broke government?

Busy_body:

Nope, the only reason he wanted to do this was because of quantitative easing because they were forced to repay money they were loaned abruptly and because of lack of access to credit, they needed curencies in higher denomination to be able to exchange large sums at a go, in the currency market.

When money is loaned at such a level, there will be a robust and clear contract of terms and conditions. No one can just arbitirarily recall loans. It is impossican't!!!

A government that cannot meet the terms and conditions has mismanaged!!!

Busy_body:

Well, like i said before, they knew this, yet turned a blind eye until he started claiming back what was once his Heck, he even comes there a lot

Irrespective, I will never support evil like Mugabe. Maybe if one goes to Comcast Internetworking training they might teach such. 

You are right Saga, the madness in Zim started just before the elections because Uncle Bob wanted to be seen to be doing something for the people yet only passed the farms on to his buddies. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong Drill Bob wanted the votes and when that failed, him and his people started brutalising Morgan and his supporters, the land grabs is what brought Zim to it's knees. . . . . . . . .and of course "the rest of the world" was not going to sit quietly and watch the people suffer so they sanctioned him and that just worsened the situation!

SA Goddess:

You are right Saga, the madness in Zim started just before the elections because Uncle Bob wanted to be seen to be doing something for the people yet only passed the farms on to his buddies. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong Drill Bob wanted the votes and when that failed, him and his people started brutalising Morgan and his supporters, the land grabs is what brought Zim to it's knees. . . . . . . . .and of course "the rest of the world" was not going to sit quietly and watch the people suffer so they sanctioned him and that just worsened the situation!

bob wanted votes he was in tight spot the war vets wanted better life from government he gave $50.000 each and that mone wasnt budgeted for and this money given to the ordinary war vets and it was so corrupt that some people who just kids during the war where given that money as war vets

at the same time there was DRC war then came referendum it wake up mugabe, and he hijacked the idea of the poor who demostrated on farms wanting to be resettled the hell broke loose

Y'all excuse ma offtopic eh.

Lmao!
Dude, you is not serious. . . . I saw that. You know this msg is for you.


Busybody,
I deh salute o.
Where have you been BTW?

I had no idea about $50 000, Bob is crazy I tell you. . . . . .  .but I heard Zim is recovering now, it is true?  I have buddies from Zim who have invited me to go along with them on their next trip, can't wait.

SA Goddess:

I had no idea about $50 000, Bob is crazy I tell you. . . . . . .but I head Zim is recovering now, it is true? I have buddies from Zim who have invited me to go along with them on their next trip, can't wait.

thats the reason i have told these other guys to ask me about zimbabwe

some war vets went crazy with money they bought watches for their dogs

ZIM DRILL:

thats the reason i have told these other guys to ask me about zimbabwe

some war vets went crazy with money they bought watches for their dogs

Are they still buying them now? I bet now they are back to block one. . . . . . . . .

SA Goddess:

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Are they still buying them now? I bet now they are back to block one. . . . . . . . .

most are dead now

ZIM DRILL:

thats the reason i have told these other guys to ask me about zimbabwe

some war vets went crazy with money they bought watches for their dogs

Can you provide any source of that news?

I really can't believe anyone is that mad.

$50K?   That might just be a typical African exaggeration by his opponents.

I know for sure there were tons of teenagers and people in their 20s in the crowd of so-called "veterans" he was sponsoring when I saw it in the news.

How can you be a war veteran in 2000 for a war that ended in 1980 when you are less than 30. Bloody street thugs calling themselves veterans and backed by a retarded president-for-life.

Sagamite:

Can you provide any source of that news?

I really can't believe anyone is that mad.

$50K? That might just be a typical African exaggeration by his opponents.

I know for sure there were tons of teenagers and people in their 20s in the crowd of so-called "veterans" he was sponsoring when I saw it in the news.

How can you be a war veteran in 2000 for a war that ended in 1980 when you are less than 30. Bloody street thugs calling themselves veterans and backed by a retarded president-for-life.

Of course they looked like JUST street thugs, small time criminals who had been paid to cause havoc. . . . .

Sagamite:

Can you provide any source of that news?

I really can't believe anyone is that mad.

$50K?   That might just be a typical African exaggeration by his opponents.

I know for sure there were tons of teenagers and people in their 20s in the crowd of so-called "veterans" he was sponsoring when I saw it in the news.

How can you be a war veteran in 2000 for a war that ended in 1980 when you are less than 30. Bloody street thugs calling themselves veterans and backed by a retarded president-for-life.

sagamite

thats what exposed the corruption in mugabe government

the source?

i am a zimbabwean

i was there in zim i saw with my own eyes though i didnt see the ones who bought watches for the dogs but the rest i saw with my own eyes

read a bit about the $50000  http://www.zimbabwesituation.org/?p=12807

ZIM DRILL:

sagamite

thats what exposed the corruption in mugabe government

the source?

i am a zimbabwean

i was there in zim i saw with my own eyes though i didnt see the ones who bought watches for the dogs but the rest i saw with my own eyes

read a bit about the $50000  http://www.zimbabwesituation.org/?p=12807

OK!!!

50,000 ZIM dollars. Phew!

I thought it was US dollars, I am too objective I had to challenge that even though I hate Mugabe. Even if one paid N2m to train at Comcast for the internetworking programme he would not be able to get such refined mind, intelligence and objectivity.  Thanks for clearing that up.

The retards wanted to be given 20% of the country's economy as well? They are mad. 

I also thought it was US $$$$ BUT now DRILL, how much is that in SA currently, just want to get an idea of what we are talking about here!

Sagamite:

OK!!!

50,000 ZIM dollars. Phew!

I thought it was US dollars, I am too objective I had to challenge that even though I hate Mugabe. Even if one paid N2m to train at Comcast for the internetworking programme he would not be able to get such refined mind, intelligence and objectivity. Thanks for clearing that up.

The retards wanted to be given part of the country's finances as well? They are mad.

this was 1997 zim dollar was alive and strong

exchange rate for 1997
http://www.uneca.org/era2002/figures/Fig%204.6.pdf

SA Goddess:



I also thought it was US $$$$ BUT now DRILL, how much is that in SA currently, just want to get an idea of what we are talking about here!

you all read in a rush thats was 1997

check the rates in 1997 and do the maths

http://www.uneca.org/era2002/figures/Fig%204.6.pdf

its a lots even in US$

US$2,500 is very far off the US$50,000 I initially thought.