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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:34am On Aug 02, 2015
Patchesagain:


Where does it say they took part in the assault?


LIAR!

1. You show me where Eben Barlow said his PMC guys took part in any fighting

2. Also show me where Eben said he had 120 SA mercenaries in NE Nigeria,,,show us his words

LIAR !!!
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:36am On Aug 02, 2015
Patchesagain:


Where does it say they took part in the assault?


LIAR!

My pleasure :

"Each batch received Russian-style specialised counter-insurgency warfare training for four months and on return will form the core of a new Nigerian army special forces brigade which is being created to take the lead in the army's faltering offensive amid massive territorial gains in the northern states of Borno and Adamawa by the Islamist Boko Haram group. "

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=36709:russian-army-starts-training-1-200-nigerian-personnel-in-counter-insurgency-warfare&catid=49:National%20Security&Itemid=115"

I guess you have poor English comprehension skills.

South African defenceweb report has demolished all Patches' arguments grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:47am On Aug 02, 2015
Patchesagain:



Liar

Nigerian Army was fighting in Sambisa Forest in 2013 - long before you lost all your towns!!

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/134770-nigerian-military-to-continue-sambisa-forest-operation-after-killing-over-20-boko-haram-suspects-in-raid.html

Fact is you know nothing about bush warfare and that is why they were able to push you out of the bush and start taking towns!!

You lost the argument and you cannot dig a way out of the hole you plunged into !

Your above source is 2013....LOL....Boko Haram started before then in 2009 in Maiduguri city NOT a bush or Sambisa forest !!!!

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jul/27/boko-haram-nigeria-attacks

It was urban warfare from 2009, the Bokos ran into the forest after Nigerian military defeated them 2009 to 2013 and Nigerain SF went into the Sambisa forest to kill Shekau I in 2013.....there was no South African PMC Eben Barlow here in 2013.

http://www.dw.com/en/nigerian-military-claims-to-have-killed-boko-haram-leader-shekau/a-17030712

The bush tactics of Eben Barlow was of very very little benefit to the final offensive and final victory, the war was an urban city war 98 %

50 towns and 1 forest = Urban city warfare 98 %

Nigerian COIN brigade trained by Russia did the job 90%.....yet the Russians are not taking glory like you Southies that did less than 1%....You even want to ignore the contribution of Chad, Niger and Cameroon....or Eben Barlow was leading the whole four nations armies and air forces as field marshall ?

LIAR LIAR !!!!
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:37am On Aug 02, 2015
agaugust:
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Truth Revealed By South African Defenceweb :

Nigerian army Special battalions got ADVANCED COIN training under Russian Army for 4 months and returned to North East Nigeria to lead in the battles that finally defeated Boko Haram -


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Contrary to lies told by many world news reports and publications, the final assault on Boko Haram that defeated the terrorists was led by the Nigerian army special COIN Brigade trained quickly by Russian army from August 2014 to January 2015.

The Russian army has many years of war experience against Islamic terrorists in Afghanistan called Mujahedeens and transferred their skills to several battalions of the Nigerian army's special forces COIN Brigade....

"The Nigerian security services have sent 1 200 personnel to Russia where they are receiving advanced counter-insurgency training from Russian special forces and will return to form the nucleus of a special counter-insurgency force which will be deployed to fight Boko Haram militants.

Each batch received Russian-style specialised counter-insurgency warfare training for four months and on return will form the core of a new special forces brigade which is being created to take the lead in the army's faltering offensive amid massive territorial gains in the northern states of Borno and Adamawa by the Islamist Boko Haram group. "

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=36709:russian-army-starts-training-1-200-nigerian-personnel-in-counter-insurgency-warfare&catid=49:National%20Security&Itemid=115

PHOTO : NIGERIAN ARMY SPECIAL COIN BRIGADE THAT DEFEATED BOKO HARAM, POSE DURING ADVANCED TRAINING IN RUSSIA
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THAT IS CLEARLY 2014 SOURCE. SA MERCENARIES TOOK OVER FROM 2015 AND STARTED BRINGING IN CHANGES. MR BARLOW FURTHER CLAIMED THAT THE NIGERIA COIN BRIGADE WAS TRAINED AND PROGRAMMED TO FAIL IN EVERY ASPECT
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:57am On Aug 02, 2015
mzilakazi:



SA MERCENARIES SAVED YOU FROM BOKO HARAM HORROR.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/14/south-africas-ageing-white-mercenaries-who-helped-turn-tide-on-boko-haram


http://mg.co.za/article/2015-04-16-sa-mercenaries-turn-the-tide-in-nigeria
Before the advent of s.a mercenaries.. N.A has been fighting their own war,,,,

http://www.informationng.com/2015/02/photos-nigerian-military-kill-300-boko-haram-members-capture-their-weapons.html...
give me a link stating how many BH members Barlow killed.,,,,and I will give you a link showing that Barlow did NOTHING,,,,

you should look up the meaning of mercenaries...
They are not here for Nigeria but for their own PERSONAL GAIN,,,

Besides I thought mercenaries have been banned in your country... RUSSIA IS The Country That should be talking here NOT YOU.m

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 8:15am On Aug 02, 2015
agaugust:


1. You show me where Eben Barlow said his PMC guys took part in any fighting

2. Also show me where Eben said he had 120 SA mercenaries in NE Nigeria,,,show us his words

LIAR !!!
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1. Photo graphic proof

2. See for yourself
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/11596210/South-African-mercenaries-secret-war-on-Boko-Haram.html
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 8:16am On Aug 02, 2015
agaugust:


My pleasure :

"Each batch received Russian-style specialised counter-insurgency warfare training for four months and on return will form the core of a new Nigerian army special forces brigade which is being created to take the lead in the army's faltering offensive amid massive territorial gains in the northern states of Borno and Adamawa by the Islamist Boko Haram group. "

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=36709:russian-army-starts-training-1-200-nigerian-personnel-in-counter-insurgency-warfare&catid=49:National%20Security&Itemid=115"

I guess you have poor English comprehension skills.

South African defenceweb report has demolished all Patches' arguments grin grin
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Show me where it says they took part in combat

The article is written in future tense, not past tense

Dumb-ass

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 8:18am On Aug 02, 2015
agaugust:


You lost the argument and you cannot dig a way out of the hole you plunged into !

Your above source is 2013....LOL....Boko Haram started before then in 2009 in Maiduguri city NOT a bush or Sambisa forest !!!!

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jul/27/boko-haram-nigeria-attacks

It was urban warfare from 2009, the Bokos ran into the forest after Nigerian military defeated them 2009 to 2013 and Nigerain SF went into the Sambisa forest to kill Shekau I in 2013.....there was no South African PMC Eben Barlow here in 2013.

http://www.dw.com/en/nigerian-military-claims-to-have-killed-boko-haram-leader-shekau/a-17030712

The bush tactics of Eben Barlow was of very very little benefit to the final offensive and final victory, the war was an urban city war 98 %

50 towns and 1 forest = Urban city warfare 98 %

Nigerian COIN brigade trained by Russia did the job 90%.....yet the Russians are not taking glory like you Southies that did less than 1%....You even want to ignore the contribution of Chad, Niger and Cameroon....or Eben Barlow was leading the whole four nations armies and air forces as field marshall ?

LIAR LIAR !!!!
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Operating from bases in the bush they attacked your towns

That is why your first major offensives in 2013 focused on Sambisa forest - where their main bases are.

Nigerian COIN Brigade did not take part in the fighting

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:28am On Aug 02, 2015
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:35am On Aug 02, 2015
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:47am On Aug 02, 2015
mzilakazi:
Barlow speaks out.


http://sofrep.com/40700/eeben-barlow-speaks-pt-5-external-drivers-nigerias-war/
http://eebenbarlowsmilitaryandsecurityblog..co.ke/2015/05/updating-nigerian-narrative.html?m=1. BARLOW SPEAKS OUT,,,

HE CALLS Y'ALL LIARS, LIARS, LIARS ESPECIALLY SOFREP... THE WHOLE TRUTH IS IN THAT LINK straight from his blog spot,,,

CASE OVER AND CLOSED..
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:44am On Aug 02, 2015
toopsy22:
Before the advent of s.a mercenaries.. N.A has been fighting their own war,,,,

http://www.informationng.com/2015/02/photos-nigerian-military-kill-300-boko-haram-members-capture-their-weapons.html...
give me a link stating how many BH members Barlow killed.,,,,and I will give you a link showing that Barlow did NOTHING,,,,

you should look up the meaning of mercenaries...
They are not here for Nigeria but for their own PERSONAL GAIN,,,

Besides I thought mercenaries have been banned in your country... RUSSIA IS The Country That should be talking here NOT YOU.m

Yes is true that before the advent of SA mercenaries Nigerian forces have been fighting BH, yet without success. It was only after the introduction of SA mercenaries that success was starting to be realized. Thank you.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:47am On Aug 02, 2015
toopsy22:
http://eebenbarlowsmilitaryandsecurityblog..co.ke/2015/05/updating-nigerian-narrative.html?m=1. BARLOW SPEAKS OUT,,,

HE CALLS Y'ALL LIARS, LIARS, LIARS ESPECIALLY SOFREP... THE WHOLE TRUTH IS IN THAT LINK straight from his blog spot,,,

CASE OVER AND CLOSED..


BARLOW HELPED NIGERIA DEFEAT BH. THATS A FACT AND CASE CLOSED.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:49am On Aug 02, 2015
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:56am On Aug 02, 2015
mzilakazi:



YOU DONT MAKE SENSE. FOR WHAT WAS BARLOW IN NIGERIA IF HE DID NOTHING?
. SO RICH COMING FROM SIMEONE WHO SAID S.A MERCENARIES DEFEATED B.H. ahaha talking about sense..
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:56am On Aug 02, 2015
mzilakazi:



YOU DONT MAKE SENSE. FOR WHAT WAS BARLOW IN NIGERIA IF HE DID NOTHING?
. SO RICH COMING FROM SIMEONE WHO SAID S.A MERCENARIES DEFEATED B.H. talking about making sense..
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:58am On Aug 02, 2015
agaugust:


1. You show me where Eben Barlow said his PMC guys took part in any fighting

2. Also show me where Eben said he had 120 SA mercenaries in NE Nigeria,,,show us his words

LIAR !!!
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BWAHAHAHA… OVER 100 MERCENARIES TOOK PART IN BOKO HARAM WAR AS CONFORMED BY SA GOVERMENT AFTER INVESTIGATION. WE FURTHER DONT NEED MR BARLOW'S EXPLANATION IF OUR GOVERNMENT CONFIRMED IT.

SOME OF THE MERCENARIES KEPT ON PHONING RADIO STATIONS TO UPDATE SA LISTENERSHIP ABOUT THEIR PROGRESS IN NIGERIA AND AFTER THE DEATH OF ONE OF THEIR OWN.

IT WAS FURTHER PURPORTED THAT THE GOVERNMENT OFFERED THEM AMNESTY AFTER THE TWO GOVERNMENTS ENGAGED IN SECRET TALKS.


WITH ALL OF THAT, THE BIGGEST LIAR APPEARS TO BE MR AGAUGUST.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:00pm On Aug 02, 2015
toopsy22:
. SO RICH COMING FROM SIMEONE WHO SAID S.A MERCENARIES DEFEATED B.H. talking about making sense..


Bwahahahaha… So do you think, Mr Barlow would ever leave his wife and children to go to Nigeria at the request of that government for doing nothing. Does that ever make sense?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:06pm On Aug 02, 2015
Henry120:


Eben himself took that guy to the cleaners on twitter.


Someone purporting to be Eben
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:07pm On Aug 02, 2015
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:13pm On Aug 02, 2015
mzilakazi:



BARLOW HELPED NIGERIA DEFEAT BH. THATS A FACT AND CASE CLOSED.
http://eebenbarlowsmilitaryandsecurityblog..co.ke/2015/05/updating-nigerian-narrative.html?m=1. he calls you LIARS,,,
'The media in s.a usual campaign of condemnation with false interviews"",,- Barlow

"STTEP will never take credit for something it didn't do"" rescuing of hostages in sambisa was done by N.A"".- Barlow...

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/07/625-killed-as-boko-haram-gunmen-slit-some-residents-throats/ ,,,,
Barlow came here around march this year boko haram didn't stop killing.,,,,
MAY 29th - JULY BH killed 625 people.... Whatever defeat we have now thanks to the chad,nig& camer.. army...
you glory thieves...

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:19pm On Aug 02, 2015
mzilakazi:



Bwahahahaha… So do you think, Mr Barlow would ever leave his wife and children to go to Nigeria at the request of that government for doing nothing. Does that ever make sense?
it was a HIRE,, he was not here for Nigeria but for the money (personal gain).,,,,

Except if you now work for him and you know the reason why he was here.. 'cos I know s.a govt didn't send him..
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:21pm On Aug 02, 2015
mzilakazi:



Bwahahahaha… So do you think, Mr Barlow would ever leave his wife and children to go to Nigeria at the request of that government for doing nothing. Does that ever make sense?
it was a HIRE,, he was not here for Nigeria but for the money (personal gain).,he came and didn't defeat BH,too much of your s.a media hype,,,
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:26pm On Aug 02, 2015
toopsy22:
it was a HIRE,, he was not here for Nigeria but for the money (personal gain).,he came and didn't defeat BH,too much of your s.a media hype,,,


So, are you insinuating that Mr Barlow was hired by Nigerian government with exorbitant amount of money for doing nothing?

Mr Barlow's involvement paid off and led to Nigeria having peaceful national elections especially in three troubled states in the North.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:27pm On Aug 02, 2015
Patchesagain:


who says its Eben?

oh! someone came up with the barlow defeated BH initiative..
http://eebenbarlowsmilitaryandsecurityblog..co.ke/2015/05/updating-nigerian-narrative.html?m=1. its Eeben,, he calls y'all LIARS...,,,,,
and he did not DEFEAT BH but the Nigerian, Chadian, Cameroon Army..

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:31pm On Aug 02, 2015
toopsy22:
oh! someone came up with the barlow defeated BH initiative..
http://eebenbarlowsmilitaryandsecurityblog..co.ke/2015/05/updating-nigerian-narrative.html?m=1. its Eeben,, he calls y'all LIARS...,,,,,
and he did not DEFEAT BH but the Nigerian, Chadian, Cameroon Army..


Eeben helped Nigeria to keep Boko Haram at bay. In fact Boko Haram is not yet defeated even with the involvement of your neighbours. BH still remain determined, resolute and undefeated.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:32pm On Aug 02, 2015
mzilakazi:


So, are you insinuating that Mr Barlow was hired by Nigerian government with exorbitant amount of money for doing nothing? You are crazy!!
apparently,, they must have paid him before coming,,,where did you see 'exorbitant' in my post.. Read his blog before defending him.. I repeat he did not DEFEAT BH as you purported... simple,,,






and seriously, really you do not want to insult me..
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:37pm On Aug 02, 2015
toopsy22:
apparently,, they must have paid him before coming,,,where did you see 'exorbitant' in my post.. Read his blog before defending him.. I repeat he did not DEFEAT BH as you purported... simple,,,






and seriously, really you do not want to insult me..


"Paid him before coming" please leave this topic before you only end up insulting your own logic. What government does that by paying contractors before they could deliver. What if contractors decide not to come and keep the money. It will mean that you would be conned in 419 style. Leave this topic because you have lost your relevance.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:43pm On Aug 02, 2015
mzilakazi:



Eeben helped Nigeria to keep Boko Haram at bay. In fact Boko Haram is not yet defeated even with the involvement of your neighbours. BH still remain determined, resolute and undefeated.
OMG!!! you're the most contradicting being I have ever had a conversation with.,,,,

FROM ""BARLOW/S.A MERCENARIES Defeated BH -I need to go on my knees anytime I see him TO,,,

BH is not defeated - oh I know that's why I kept using IF bh is defeated at the beginning of this conversation.. nig&its neighbors get d glory.,,,

you and your media should stop being glory thieves 'cos even Barlow is rejecting the supposed win you're giving to him....
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:43pm On Aug 02, 2015
DIKWA WAS TRULY IN THE HANDS OF BOKO HARAM AND THEY EVEN CONVERTED THE LABORATORY OF DIKWA TEACHERS COLLEGE INTO A BOMB-MAKING FACTORY.


http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/187661-boko-haram-converts%E2%80%8B-college-laboratory-to-bomb-making-factory.html
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:49pm On Aug 02, 2015
toopsy22:
OMG!!! you're the most contradicting being I have ever had a conversation with.,,,,

FROM ""BARLOW/S.A MERCENARIES Defeated BH -I need to go on my knees anytime I see him TO,,,

BH is not defeated - oh I know that's why I kept using IF bh is defeated at the beginning of this conversation.. nig&its neighbors get d glory.,,,

you and your media should stop being glory thieves 'cos even Barlow is rejecting the supposed win you're giving to him....


The person who claimed that BH was defeated by NA is you and I just went down with a flow to state the facts that SA mercenaries helped Nigerian troops to achieve whatever you think that your incompetent military have achieved. Heaven and even the world knows that the tides turned only when SA mercenaries took over, otherwise we could not have seen elections taking place in three Northern troubled states. Boko Haram then held large part of land and they were pushed to the sea by of course SA contractors. Facts, facts and facts.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:54pm On Aug 02, 2015
mzilakazi:


So, are you insinuating that Mr Barlow was hired by Nigerian government with exorbitant amount of money for doing nothing? You are crazy!!

Mr Barlow's involvement paid off and led to Nigeria having peaceful national elections especially in three troubled states in the North.
Now I need to give you the number of people who died during our elections from BH attacks,,,even on the day of election there was 2 BH attacks,,,

OUR PEACEFUL ELECTIONS CANNOT BE ATTRIBUTED TO BARLOW.. NO.. it was majorly about the reaction of the supporters of the 2 major political parties who both were already threatening war if they don't win... .. The PHONE CALL made by the former president to the winner is what led to our peaceful elections.... The world knows that except you..

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