Patchesagain:
Nigerians brag about their rust fleet

South Africans dont feel the need to brag, we are secure in the knowledge that we have an actual Navy

Patchesagain:


Combat suites on our frigates are neither defective nor obsolete.

Allegations by a buisnesman who is emotional because his company lost out on bidding are baseless when you consider the plethora of vessels that operate the exact same combat-suite (French Flagship Nuclear Powered Carrier, 5 La Fayette class Frigates and the Saudi Flagship the F1000 Air-Defence Frigate)

Fact is that we operate 4 Modern Frigates and 3 Modern subs.

In the same period of time you have aquired only 2 modern vessels - both are only lightly armed OPV's.

Patchesagain:


Who says we have been waiting 20 years?


Between the year 2000 and 2020 we will have acquired 4 advanced Frigates, 3 advanced Subs,1 brand new state-of-the-art Hydrographic Vessel, 3 state-of-the-art OPV's and 3 state-of-the-art IPV's, 4 State-of-the-art Lynx Helicopters, a plethora of T-craft, with plans allready underway to acquire a new maritime supply vessel

Its no contest, you have only got 2 modern major-surface vessels, with no war-fighting capabilities and both are pathetically small. One Warrior Class Strike Craft could wipe out your whole surface fleet.

SAN = NAVY
NN = Coast Gaurd Rust Fleet

lionel4power:
i'm almost embarrassed for you. You sound like a spoilt baby. ;>
Earlier this year multiple sources said Nigeria was interested in the T129.

Now new Nigeria source reported that it has been acquired.

I know you are jealous, you are stuck with only 11 dead rooivalk.

Henry120:


Your Project Biro comprises of only 3 OPVs and 3 IPVs. This was worth waiting 23 years for in your Soweto Country of dunderheads?

Anyways your claims about OPVs are simply that, claims, or purportedly.

Henry120:


You have not been waiting 20 years, you have been waiting for 23 years.


You acquiring no OPVs, you have 4 obsolete Frigates (great), you are also not acquiring any hydrographic vessels, you are acquiring no Nothing, Zilch, None, Zero.


You went into the market for Frigates, instead you Navy got ships that are nothing more than our average creek gun boats.

jln115:

23 years? really mate? any proof of your claims? remember last time how i embarrassed you on this same topic?

and yes we are acquiring a new Hydrographic vessel! seems like the envy is killing you.

Henry120:


You know a soweto clown has been comprehensively butt-blasted, when he begins to use words like envy!!

Henry120:


Why don't you tell us how many years Project Biro has lasted for, from inception till date? Andrewza said it was from 1996 - till date, however i have evidence that is an Apartheid Era program.


Every year is a Project Biro for the Nigerian Navy, we don't need to wait 23 years to procure 6 vessels.

andrewza:


1991 not 1996. Any case there where several apartheid projects that took place. 1 led to the construction of 2 corvettes that due to arms embargoes we never got. They where sold to Argentina.

The reason the projects take so long in SA is that they not rushed in to. Many of the early years of a project it is just to see if there is even a need for it there are countless projects in the SANDF. Many unfunded and some never ending. What changed for project biro is it one got a budget and 2 it is now in finale stages. Companies have been told to submit there opstions.

You see unlike Nigeria we don't rush head long in and just buy stuff. We first come up with a set of requirements then we act.


And 1991 was when we decided we going to need to replace the strike craft. That's all. A few years ago they decided we going to need to replace the Oryx. They will only start 2020 to begin setting up the requirements.

Henry120:


Why would anybody brag about Frigates with Obsolete and defective Combat suites?....... Apparently only delusional South-Africans would.

Henry120:


We have 2 modern ships which have the capacity to circumnavigate Africa. Africa's Longest Endurance Ships. Each Ship comes with an Endurance which equals the combined total of 3 South-African Ships, all ships inter-linked with the surveillance planes above and the GCS.


NNS cenetenary is longer and has a displacement that is larger than Type-056 corvettes of the Chinese and Thai navies, Fact. The ship is a light Frigate.


We have an overload on IPVs, MPVs and Catamarans.


Yes, your comments are on record, your claimed you were getting 3 Frigates, 3 OPVs and 3 IPVs.

Henry120:


Fact is you operate 4 obsolete Frigates. Facts have been provided, with indisputable technical details to back them up.


Instead of crying all over nairaland like a "baby looking for mommy's tittes" provide technical details to counter them.

Congrats you operate 4 obsolete boats.

Henry120:


You have not been waiting 20 years, you have been waiting for 23 years.


You acquiring no OPVs, you have 4 obsolete Frigates (great), you are also not acquiring any hydrographic vessels, you are acquiring no Nothing, Zilch, None, Zero.


You went into the market for Frigates, instead you Navy got ships that are nothing more than our average creek gun boats.

Henry120:


You know a soweto clown has been comprehensively butt-blasted, when he begins to use words like envy!!

Henry120:


Let me just save this for reference purposes.

patches689:


Yes

Please refrence a comment that annihalates your claims

patches689:


hey, do you know that your "new" ships are allmost as old as your president?

jln115:

How many were acquired? How much did it cost? When did NAF take delivery? ANY photographic evidence?

patches689:


hahahahahahahah

Henry120 is in deep emotional stress

Denialism is the only way he show his face on this thread

It must be very painfull discussing Naval matters with people who have a navy when all you have is some meuseum peices and a couple customs boats

patches689:


No - the allegations of a buisnessman who lost out on a contract have been posted here.

Fact is, the combat suite on the Valour Class is the same as that found on the French Flag-ship Charles De Gaulle (A FVCKING NUCLEAR POWERED CARRIER), all 5 of the French La-fayette Frigates and Saudi Arabia's newest vessel and Flagship

You think that all the admirals and technical staff of the French, South African ans Saudi navies would buy defective combat suites for their best vessels?

You are a joke

Your navy is a bigger joke

patches689:


You have 2 CUTTERS that are over 50 years old, range is irrelevant for us - we can refuel at sea

The vessel in Nigerian service is a corvett, its under 2000t. Valour Class comes in at over 3000t and is considered small for a frigate

Face it, they are Corvettes - the Chinese NAVY DEFINES THEM as such

I am on record of saying that? QUOtE ME

patches689:

The combat suits are neither obsolete nor defective
Either way, they arent over 50 years old!

Henry120:


Let me just save this for reference purposes.