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Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by ochungal(f): 6:22am On Oct 16, 2010
Hi MzDarkSkin wid har Camaroon king grin grin grin. Nice to meet another Yardie on board. Like yu speech keep representing wink
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by james1(m): 7:02am On Oct 16, 2010
Despite the fact that"everything is under control"in the US,the reason they enjoy better standard in all things is because at some time in the past people made sacrifice's.
Today the american has freedom from fear amongst other's.unlike in nigeria,people don't need police permission before protesting.
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by Horus(m): 12:44pm On Oct 16, 2010
America is cursed.
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by Nobody: 4:44pm On Oct 16, 2010
ochungal:

Hi MzDarkSkin wid har Camaroon king  grin grin grin.  Nice to meet another Yardie on board.  Like yu speech keep representing  wink

Yu dun kno seh mi ago big up Yard all day everyday!


LMFAO@ Horus! How so? How is America cursed? (i think so too sometimes but I'd like to hear your reason).
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by martinosi: 6:34pm On Oct 16, 2010
MandingoII:

There are 4 distinct groups of blacks in america.  African children will find themselves in these groups in the future.  Keep in Mind, America will ALWAYS conspire against you,


(1) the mainstream middle-class and majority with a full ownership stake in American society,
(2) a large, abandoned minority with less hope of escaping poverty and dysfunction than at any time since Reconstruction's crushing end,
(3) a small transcendent elite with such enormous wealth, power, and influence (think Oprah, the Obamas, Will and Jada Pinkett Smith), and

(4) two newly emergent groups-individuals of mixed-race heritage and communities of recent black immigrants from the Caribbean and Africa, which force us to question what being "black" in America is supposed to mean?




Hmmm an interesting point here,

I wanna see if Kobojunkie shall disagree lol, i guess she is in the 4h Catergory !!!
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by MandingoII(m): 6:46pm On Oct 16, 2010
Ever heard of a woman by the name of Margaret Sanger? well, she was a US govt agent used by the white elite to "control" the growth of the black population in america in the early part of the 20th century, she founded an organisation known as the American Birth Control League which eventually became known as Planned Parenthood, what is so sad about this situation is that many supposedly educated african americans bought into it and were hoodwinked into beleiving that it would be in the interest of the black community to reduce the number of children they had, in a bid to be accepted by white mainstream society, many educated blacks started preaching this warped ideology of population control of their own people, before long abortion clinics began springing up everywhere in the black community. what many blacks in america didnt understand was that they were comitting race suicide under the guidance of an evil eugenicist, if you look at america today, you can see that race suicide of the black race is still a work in progress, black men - the ones who are not tied up in the prison industrial complex are either no longer having children with black women but opting to go for women of other races instead, this is all part of the eugenics programme of white america - reduction of the black population in america

Planned Parenthood has many rich financiers such as Warren Buffet and Bill Gates, these are people who if they had one wish it would be for all the black people in america to disappear.

by the way eugenics or "race hygiene" as it used to be known in the US in the 1920's is basically the purification of the Aryan race by the removal of groups who are considered to be "unfit" from mainstream society, in the early part of the 20th century black people were on the receiving end of this programme in the following ways: lynching, segregation, sterilisation and abortion, now it is done by way of incarceration of large nos of black men, introduction of crack cocaine into the black community, mass incarceration of young black men , decriminalisation of miscegenation or race mixing and high rates of abortion under the guise of "family planning" and finally HIV aids.

when slavery ended the white elite realised that they no longer had any more use for the black population, they did a cost benefit analysis and the US govt realised that it was going to cost them a lot of money to rehabilitate people who had been brutalised by such a heinous system and they were not willing to spend a dime of their money to pay for this rehabilitation programme, they decided instead to come up with an ingenious plan, - the gradual elimination of the black population - but you see because america prides itself in being a champion of human rights they couldnt come out openly to do this - because that would mean that they were no better than the Nazis, so instead they chose to cloak their plans in lies and falsity and this is where this organisation came into play, please dont take my word for it do your research on Planned Parenthood and its origins and you will find out that what i am saying is true.

[b]Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not one for alot of poor Black disenfranchised people running around anyway. Look at Nigeria, What have their populations given them but alot of unfed mouths, disease and poor people lacking humanity for poor people. POPULATIONS do need to be contained. WHO IS GOING TO FEED PEOPLE WHO CANNOT FEED THEMSELVES??

Besides man. You have 1 out of every 3 Nigerian man in America DYING to be with a white woman. Nigga you in the UK. You do not even HAVE ONE BLACK LEADER!!! There is NO BODY BLACK IN THE UK that can mobilize and communicate to your people. We Blacks in the U.S. have given you a template, yet you Africans in the U.K. remain PASSIVE.

EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET TO AMERIKKA-BECAUSE WE AFRICAN AMERICANS are stunting and struggling and progressing. Africans are dying to REPLACE us, but when they get here, they soon learn THEIR place.

We African Americans DO NOT HAVE A PLACE - We set the pace!!! White folks have been annilliate us at every turn because of it. YET WE FIGHT!! Blacks in the U.K. accept their secondary status and DO NOTHING!!!![/b]
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by martinosi: 7:02pm On Oct 16, 2010
MandingoII:

[b]Maybe.  Maybe not.  I'm not one for alot of poor Black disenfranchised people running around anyway.  Look at Nigeria, What have their populations given them but alot of unfed mouths, disease and poor people lacking humanity for poor people.  POPULATIONS do need to be contained.  WHO IS GOING TO FEED PEOPLE WHO CANNOT FEED THEMSELVES?? 

Besides man.  You have 1 out of every 3 Nigerian man in America DYING to be with a white woman.  Nigga you in the UK.  You do not even HAVE ONE BLACK LEADER!!!  There is NO BODY BLACK IN THE UK that can mobilize and communicate to your people.  We Blacks in the U.S. have given you a template, yet you Africans in the U.K. remain PASSIVE.

EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET TO AMERIKKA-BECAUSE WE AFRICAN AMERICANS are stunting and struggling and progressing.  Africans are dying to REPLACE us, but when they get here, they soon learn THEIR place.

We African Americans DO NOT HAVE A PLACE - We set the pace!!!  White folks have been annilliate us at every turn because of it. YET WE FIGHT!!  Blacks in the U.K. accept their secondary status and DO NOTHING!!!![/b]



hmmm
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by Nobody: 8:46pm On Oct 16, 2010
MandingoII:

Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not one for alot of poor Black disenfranchised people running around anyway. Look at Nigeria, What have their populations given them but alot of unfed mouths, disease and poor people lacking humanity for poor people. POPULATIONS do need to be contained. WHO IS GOING TO FEED PEOPLE WHO CANNOT FEED THEMSELVES??
True that. For such reasons I pay little attention to conspiracy theories or even boring stereotyped counter conspiracy theories. The point it is not in the interest of the black race to have uncontrolled population explosion. People do need to learn to take personal responsibility for their own actions and stop blaming the system.
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by ochungal(f): 9:38pm On Oct 16, 2010
Free to breed like Rats is one of the problem with blacks (yep I said and will own up to it).

I support abortions on the grounds that it's done due to poor health, rape, incest and a one time use because the household cannot afford another mouth to feed, school and love. Bringing forth a life to SUFFER all in the name of pride and false morals is selfish.

To have an abortion because you (Male & Female) were just careless is wrong, you should deal with the end result and learn from it. I've always wonder why the poorest of the poor have so much d@mn kids.

Breeding like Rats is a disadvantage to minorities (blacks in this case). The more you produce the less you have to offer each of the offsprings. The less you have to educatae them, the less you have to feed them, the less love you have to give them, and the less you have to pass on to them. End result: a legacy of debt and despair.
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by dayokanu(m): 9:45pm On Oct 16, 2010
cap28:

Bro i agree with you, african americans did fight a courageous battle but the evil machinations of the white supremacists continue to date.  After they got rid of all your great leaders, Malcolm X, Stokeley Carmichael, Martin Luther King, they went into overdrive and came down hard on the black communities.  They succeeded in destroying the black communities and pitting black men against black women thereby ensuring the total collapse of the black family in america.  The CIA then introduced crack cocaine into the black community which sounded the death knell for progress in your communities. 

Since the abolition of slavery whitey has been faced with a dilemma - the question of what to do with its  black population.

Ever heard of a woman by the name of Margaret Sanger?   well, she was a US govt agent used by the white elite  to "control" the growth of  the black population in america in the early part of the 20th century, she founded an organisation known as the American Birth Control League which eventually became known as Planned Parenthood, what is so sad about this situation is that many supposedly educated african americans bought into it and were hoodwinked into beleiving that it would be in the interest of the black community to reduce the number of children they had, in a bid to be accepted by white mainstream society, many educated blacks started preaching this warped ideology of population control of their own people, before long abortion clinics began springing  up everywhere in the black community. what many blacks in america didnt understand was that they were comitting race suicide under the guidance of an evil eugenicist, if you look at america today, you can see that race suicide of the black race is still a work in progress, black men - the ones who are not tied up in the prison industrial complex are either no longer having children with black women but opting to go for women of other races instead, this is all part of the eugenics programme of white america - reduction of the black population in america

Planned Parenthood has many rich financiers such as Warren Buffet and Bill Gates, these are people who if they had one wish it would be for all  the black people in america to disappear.

by the way eugenics or "race hygiene" as it used to be known in the US in the 1920's is basically the purification of the Aryan race by the removal of groups who are considered to be "unfit" from mainstream society,  in the early part of the 20th century black people were on the receiving end of this programme in the following ways: lynching, segregation, sterilisation and abortion, now it is done by way of incarceration of large nos of black men, introduction of crack cocaine into the black community, mass incarceration of young black men , decriminalisation of miscegenation or race mixing and high rates of abortion under the guise of "family planning" and finally HIV aids. 

when slavery ended the white elite realised that they no longer had any more use for the black population, they did a cost benefit analysis and the US govt realised that it was going to cost them a lot of money to rehabilitate people who had been brutalised by such a heinous system and they were not willing to spend a dime of their money to pay for this rehabilitation programme, they decided instead to come up with an ingenious plan, - the gradual elimination of the black population - but you see because america prides itself in being a champion of human rights they couldnt come out openly to do this - because that would mean that they were no better than the Nazis, so instead they chose to cloak their plans in lies and falsity and this is where this organisation came into play, please dont take my word for it do your research on Planned Parenthood and its origins and you will find out that what i am saying is true.


So to you it makes sense to have 20 children without a means of taking care of them?

Whats the use of having 20 kids when 17 end up in jail or turn out as prostitutes?
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by ochungal(f): 9:56pm On Oct 16, 2010
^^^ Good call. That's the differnce with Whites and Minorities.

Whites: They plan their lot according to their financial capabilities.

Minorities: They just have them as a game of chance. Chances are, grin grin ONE out of the 20 will become the savior of the family. Sometimes all 20 become the downfall of the family.


**My arguement excludes poor whites who breed like rats and well to do (smart & progressive) minorities who plan base on Financial capabilites as well.
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by dayokanu(m): 10:05pm On Oct 16, 2010
Agree with you that none of them might ever come out good but rather be a problem to the society but some of us minorities believe this is a conspiracy against blacks.

I wont call it paranoia but its not too far. I bet if they said some people should go to school and get a job they would claim its a conspiracy to deny them of their sleep time.

Some always believe someone is out there to get them LOL
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by ochungal(f): 10:20pm On Oct 16, 2010
Day, denying them sleep grin grin grin grin That is too funny!

My countrymen & women who are workless/worthless have a saying "mi nah go work fi no fowl feeding", then they turn around a rob people who went out and work for said fowl feed salary. They party all night, sleep all day and they are the loudest voice in complaining about government and lack of jobs and social service grin grin

Sometimes you have to take bad things make joke, they are a burden to society and I wish Prisons were mass produced. That is one point up for the US. It keep prison contractors employed. They may be short on bed space and poliec officers but they aren't short on prisons. grin grin
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by Nobody: 4:23am On Oct 17, 2010
Mandingo before you get all self righteous let me remind you that African Americans were not the only black folks who were oppressed. We West Indians were too and if you check 90 PERCENT OF YOUR history's freedom fighters you will see they were Caribbean immigrants or children of immigrants from Claude McKay to Marcus Garvey to Malcom X on down to Farrakan.

Slavery was a black struggle that we all had to face and still have to. African Americans have such an advantage and YET STILL fall by the wayside and "blame the whiteman" when they should take to the books and help aid their Caribbean and African siblings rather than chastise them for their "foreign accents" as the "other folks". Reaserch on how the Americo-Liberians treated the Liberian natives and you will see how deep African Americans are wounded by brainwashing. Some of you/ us mistakenly fuse being born on western soil with an education with being "better" than other blacks who are not as fortunate. Garvey's biggest opponent wasn't a white man, rather is was W.E.B Du Bois another negro who believed his "lighter complexion and rare Harvard degree" made him more suitable as a black leader not to mention him being American born sealed the deal. It was HE not the white man who told Marcus Garvey that he idea of going back Africa was barbaric and that Garvey should instead go back to Jamaica as black Americans can deal with their OWN struggles.

I understand your frustration but you want to talk about "place" when you fail to realise your own niche in society. In American society you are still "that negro" but in the black community you can be much more. Use your position to help those in the UK if it bothers you so much. Dont be all talk as if you are expecting some sort of praise when as I stated the foundation of your civil rights movement wasn't initatiated by your people in the first place. You all "stunt" get the "ice" and yet go on t.v. and embarrass yourselves like Solja Boy's tardarse did when he said he wanted to give a "shout out to slave masters because if it werent for them he would still be in Africa and not have the ice".

The root to our struggle is Africa herself. When we are able to seek knowlege about, learn, and correct the wrongs about Africa; helping to give Africa the image it is well deserving as the Motherland then we will begin to see the wounds heal. Africa is the nucleus to our dying cell. After all can you blame an African American child for making references to Africans as "booty scratchers" if all he sees on tv is "uncivilized tribesmen?", can you blame the West Indian who in the UK prefers not to be labeled as African because of the over sensationalized and hypened rift created by our Anglo slave masters from the 1600s on down to the present? Or what about the Afro. latino who is ready to chop you with a machete for calling him 'Africano' or 'un negro'? Why would a people want to associate with the one thing that they are ashamed of due to its accepted stereotypes?

You are right that our location in what was called the "new world", during our darkest years in history, now is an advantage to pave the way but if we are not putting it to good use how then can we get upset when a child from Africa imitate us with their hats on backwards, using the word "ni.gga" and swinging his arms around as if he were on drugs trying to be "gangsta"? or how can we be upset when some other Africans regard to us as lost when we havent proven that we are intouch with our blackness and can act like we have some blasted sense? African American culture thrives on seperatism, which is evident in your "you Africans should be honored" tone. We are a race of FOUR major ethnicities on a global scale: Afro. American/Canadian, Afro. European, Afro. Caribbean/latin and African and rather than learn to love and uplift one another we try to draws lines of class, color, and culture and most damning is this need to 'out do' each other.

Africans are guilty too. After all it was Africans who served Africans to the slave ports and their mentalities still linger within Africans who do label us as 'unpure' and feel the need to disassociate with us. Because as much as we outside of Africa blacks may be ashamed of Africa, some of Mama Africa's own born children despise her very existence hence the desire of that 1 of 3 African man to "be with a white woman" just as the 1 of three African American man but rather than pay them back with ignorance we must charge it to game and still be willing to be there for them when times get hard for us as a race, because whether we like it or not the 'starving African' child in Namibia is the child of a wealthy black American, who is the brother of a Jamaican ghetto youth who is the cousin on the aspiring Brazilian soccer player, we are ONE people. We need patience, understanding and love.
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by ochungal(f): 5:10am On Oct 17, 2010
MzDarkskin,  grin grin grin Yu shotgun loaded  grin.  We are always thrown to the wind when it comes to Western Black struggles. Black Americans have always ramp up the struggle to be that of their own.

I always wonder why they always protest with signs and sing those god awful negro spirituals instead of getting bloody. Jamaica and Haiti didn't bow for long. Massa tun an run when fire an blood start run pon dem plantations  grin grin American blacks sang and bowed to massa, they even fought against the British to give America Independence, when they weren't included. Only Frederick Douglas took them to task on that issue.

Said Black Americans, thief Marcus Garvey money when he was imprisoned causing him to go bankrupt. Like I posted before, I've never been disrespected by a white person. But, I've sure felt the brunt of hatred from Black Americans. I only fight the fight of my own and what affects me and mines. I leave their "whiteman conspiracy" battles alone. No one holds you down but yu own.
*Check out the cultural board "why other tribes steal Fulani-Huasa" some nonsense written by one mange name NamFav.
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by tpiah: 9:35am On Oct 17, 2010
if you check 90 PERCENT OF YOUR history's freedom fighters you will see they were Caribbean immigrants or children of immigrants from Claude McKay to Marcus Garvey to Malcom X on down to Farrakan

same thing in politics, more or less.

sometimes it's not that hard to see why many AAs intensely dislike non-AA blacks.

not excusing them however.
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by Nobody: 9:42am On Oct 17, 2010
ochungal:

I support abortions on the grounds that it's done due to poor health, violation, incest and a one time use because the household cannot afford another mouth to feed, school and love. Bringing forth a life to SUFFER all in the name of pride and false morals is selfish.
You are talking about butchering innocent babies in the womb to counter something that can be easily solved by a little self discipline.
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by Nobody: 2:38pm On Oct 17, 2010
ochungal:

MzDarkskin,  grin grin grin Yu shotgun loaded  grin.  We are always thrown to the wind when it comes to Western Black struggles. Black Americans have always ramp up the struggle to be that of their own.

I always wonder why they always protest with signs and sing those god awful negro spirituals instead of getting bloody. Jamaica and Haiti didn't bow for long. Massa tun an run when fire an blood start run pon dem plantations  grin grin American blacks sang and bowed to massa, they even fought against the British to give America Independence, when they weren't included. Only Frederick Douglas took them to task on that issue.

Said Black Americans, thief Marcus Garvey money when he was imprisoned causing him to go bankrupt. Like I posted before, I've never been disrespected by a white person. But, I've sure felt the brunt of hatred from Black Americans. I only fight the fight of my own and what affects me and mines. I leave their "whiteman conspiracy" battles alone. No one holds you down but yu own.
*Check out the cultural board "why other tribes steal Fulani-Huasa" some nonsense written by one mange name NamFav.

Absolutely a tiny island like Jamaica had TWO world powers begging US for a treaty: Spain and not so "Great Britain". on two seperate occasions. Haitians were the FIRST independant BLACK nation in the world. Both countries put up a fight during a time when they knew they could risk so much; had so much to lose but refused to lose their dignity. The Africans feared the most were Angolans, Cameroonians, And the Congolese. Those three nations produced some of Jamaica and Haiti's fiercest rebels, to the point where after a while the American colonies REFUSED to put West Indian news in their news papers for fear of uprising. Ofcourse west African slaves represented too like our national Hero Miss Nanny who was Ghanian. And you were right while the Americans were singing negro spirituals we were fighting although you had central African slaves in the American south particularly South Carolina where there were accounts of slaves from Angola who knew each other in Africa and killed/ beheaded SO MANY whites indescriminately (VERY big deal during that time considering the white majority in population!) not to mention the VERY famous American slave Nat Turner (fimme Hero!) who was so feared before his execution people from around the world went to interview and meet him lol.


Anyway I say all of that to say Mandingo needs to check his ego because despite our efforts in the U.S. and being turned away we Jamaican for the most part view them as brother and you being Jamaican can testify to this when ever a Jamaican refers to an African ASWELL they always call him "African bredda (brother)". We need the same love in return.

My girl Ochungal let me tell you, boyfriend is from Cameroon and it broke my heart when he told me that in his country people barely mention the slave trade its almost as if its not "their history". That s.hit is SAD! And you are right it was effed up how they did Marcus Garvey but cho, di man was a gangsta to rahtid lol yu kno seh one a 'im enemies dem did dissapear? yeah man di man neva ramp wid di yankee dem lol dem set him up fi tru an all a blame white man to this day, like dem tek we fi ediat! tsk. Dem all teif di man MONEY an tek weh him plans to move all blacks back to Africa (Liberia) an a claim seh a fid dem one! If you look up Liberian history THEY NEVER mention Marcus Mosiah Garvey and it was him who purchased the boats to set sail to go an HE NEVER GOT THE CHANCE because some greedy Americans set him up, a fu.ckry dat! All who nuh like we, unu tan deh!
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by cap28: 3:12pm On Oct 17, 2010
MandingoII:

Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not one for alot of poor Black disenfranchised people running around anyway. Look at Nigeria, What have their populations given them but alot of unfed mouths, disease and poor people lacking humanity for poor people. POPULATIONS do need to be contained. WHO IS GOING TO FEED PEOPLE WHO CANNOT FEED THEMSELVES??

i can see that you are yet another casualty of the american public school system that has succeeded in churning out millions of functional illiterates.  

first of all i am not advocating UNCONTROLLED PROCREATION OF the black population of america i am simply highlighting the various ways in which the US govt has conducted A GRADUAL DECIMATION OF THE BLACK POPULATION IN AMERICA
i mentioned the various ways in which this was done and i stated that this is a WORK IN PROGRESS, if  you think that it is fine for your own govt to conduct covert ethnic cleansing exercises against members of your own race despite the fact that blacks only constitute 13% of the american population - who am i to argue with you?

Now turning to your ignorant and ridiculous statement about nigeria, let me enlighten you, nigeria's problems do not stem from its vast population but from ECONOMIC MISMANAGEMENT of its ABUNDANT NATURAL RESOURCES.  Nigeria with its vast tracts of agricultural land was AND STILL IS able to feed its population adequately AND STILL HAVE more than enough food in reserve for export, the problem we have which is exaggerated and blown out of all proportion by america's racist propaganda machines like the CNN, Fox etc is that our leadership have embraced the economic models created by Washington and London.  These policies known as the Washington Consensus stipulate that african economies should concentrate on the supply of export commodities to western nations rather than develop  their own manufacturing industry .  

In nigeria today our corrupt leadership has chosen to implement policies which are designed to further enrich the foreign multinational corporations whilst simultaneously destroying local industry.

the IMF and World bank have recommended that we devalue our currency, cut public spending on education, health and other social services which has in turn led to mass unemployment, brain drain, increase in criminal activity, poverty etc.

The thing brainwashed african americans like yourself do not understand is that your former slave masters are still playing games with your mind - they tell you that we in africa are primitive backward, diseased, starving etc in order to divert you away from the centuries of abuse and degradation that they meted out to your ancestors and are still meting out to you(albeit in a covert manner).

I grew up in nigeria and the picture people like yourself try to paint of disease and starvation is a gross distortion of the reality.  I am not denying that poverty exists in africa, of course it does, but wherever you find inequality you will find poverty.  The type of poverty we have in africa is rooted in economic mismanagment of our god given natural resources as well as external manipulation from corrupt western govts like the US and britain.

You speak as if we africans are unaware of the plight of african americans and the grim existence you were condemned to less than 45 years ago.  Every thing that you claim to enjoy in america today involved you having to fight and in some instances die to acquire, basic human rights that were given automatically  to whites were denied to you and your ancestors and in many instances this still remains the case.
You had to go to the supreme court to be ALLOWED to attend the same schools as a white person (Brown vs Board of education)

You had to endure beatings, lynchings, humiliations, r.ape before you could be allowed to live in the same (poor) neighbourhood as a white person - and yet you feel  you are some how "better" off than an african person - if this is not the height of self delusion i dont know what is.  You see, what i was trying to point out to you but which obviously went way over your head was that we africans and you african americans face a COMMON ENEMY - you are no better off than us, in fact in many ways we are better off than you because we actually have a landmass to call our own whereas you are like the proverbial unwanted guest who has overstayed his welcome.  

Are you upset because i have burst your bubble of self delusion and told you the truth about your existence in america.  If the white majority population in america had their way today the entire black population in america would be deported  and if you think that is an impossibility you better cast your mind back to hitler's persecution of the jews in europe and how all the other european nations stood by and did nothing whilst he conducted his  "final solution" .

Mz Dark skin made a very important point about the most militant black leaders in america being of west indian origin - that is 100% accurate.
Marcus Garvey - Jamaican
Stokeley Carmichael - Trinidadian
even Malcom X had west indian roots (on his mother side)

Your so called african american born leaders were some of the biggest uncle toms ever known to man - WEB du bois a mixed race ar.se licker spent years begging the white men to toss blacks (mainly the light skinned ones) some crumbs from their table, but what was even more disheartening was the  instrumental role he and some other lap dog self hating negros played in the destruction and eventual deportation of the great Marcus Garvey from america.

what was Du bois grouse with Garvey? that Garvey was too black and african looking to be a leader of the black cause, can you see a correlation here? You see you (fake Mandingo) sound very much like  Du Bois - full of hatred of self.  Du Bois thought that because he had some white blood in him, attended harvard and was a professor of history he would be treated differently by the white establishment,  unfortunately for him he was reminded time and time again that he was just another n.igg.er , you see mandingo you can try as much as possible to fit in to mainstream american society but as long as your skin is not white you will remain just another n.igger.  Somethign tells me that you know this, and that you are raging against  your african ancestry but hey i digress.

Garvey is to date the only black leader who understood the dilemma of the black race, he tried to explain it to brainwashed self hating negros like you and  Du bois but they had the temerity to look down on him because according to them he "was too african in appearance".  
Du bois spent practically the whole of his life begging for equality from a race of people who treated him with nothing but scorn and contempt, the final insult came in 1963 when the US state dept refused to renew Du Bois US passport - in frustration guess where he went to live and eventually die? Yes you guessed it  Ghana in Africa.

Mandingo i know you are very ignorant of your own history but try and learn something from the above story, YOU WILL NEVER BE ACCEPTED BY MAINSTREAM WHITE AMERICA you are regarded as a member of an alien race whose humanity has never been regarded as equal to the humanity of a white man.

Besides man. You have 1 out of every 3 Nigerian man in America DYING to be with a white woman. Nigga you in the UK. You do not even HAVE ONE BLACK LEADER!!! There is NO BODY BLACK IN THE UK that can mobilize and communicate to your people. We Blacks in the U.S. have given you a template, yet you Africans in the U.K. remain PASSIVE.

You've got it wrong, you see many african americans like  yourself secretly despise being black, they cant think of anything more abhorrent than having children who are african in appearance hence their fixation with white women (usually the white women rejected by white men) .  Look around you Mandingo, what is the first thing a "successful" african american man does once he has two pennies to rub together?  Yes you guessed it - he gets himself a white woman or at least a supposedly black woman who looks white.  
Im not going to embarrass you by mentioning names or i'll be here all day but im sure you get the picture.

Look at who you african americans hold up as the epitome of black female beauty - Halle Berry, Lena Horne, Vannessa Williams?  need i say more?

Colourism or the  practice of  acccording eople with different skin tones differing social treatment is a way of life in the african american community - your people are still very much entrenched in the self hatred which was ingrained into you since the days of slavery, i see it in your pathetic utterances, in your deluded mindset you think a black person who looks closer in appearance to a white person is "superior" to a black person with undilute african physical features, i would love to see what you look like, i have a feeling you have the typical west african features of your ancestors.


EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET TO AMERIKKA-BECAUSE WE AFRICAN AMERICANS are stunting and struggling and progressing. Africans are dying to REPLACE us, but when they get here, they soon learn THEIR place.

We African Americans DO NOT HAVE A PLACE - We set the pace!!! White folks have been annilliate us at every turn because of it. YET WE FIGHT!! Blacks in the U.K. accept their secondary status and DO NOTHING!!!![/b]


Let me correct your delusional mindset  - NOT everyone wants to live in america, i have loads of relatives in america and i have visited america so many times, i have NO INTEREST OR DESIRE TO LIVE in a country whose foundation is built on genocide, hatred , greed and materialism - look at how twisted and full of self hatred you are, do you not see that you are that way because you have grown up in a society that has drummed it into your head   that  you are a member of an inferior race?

your place pal is right at the bottom of the food chain, in africa i can walk around with dignity, self respect and humanity, i dont have to keep fighting to prove that im just as good as the next guy, whereas with you thats all you do on a daily basis, sorry mate dont want to trade places with you for anythign.

African americans set the pace according to the instructions given to them by their white masters, dont be fooled by Obama - he is a puppet of Wall Street and AIPAC (american israel public affairs commitee) , he has no power.  Notice how  he distanced himself from all the militant black leaders  in america including his own pastor?
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by MandingoII(m): 3:46pm On Oct 17, 2010
POOR POOR CAP28

Tell me something I DO NOT ALREADY KNOW!!!!

Everything you posted is TRUE!

Now WHAT

I would have more RESPECT FOR YOU if you CONCENTRATED on YOUR BLACK STRUGGLES WITHIN THE UNITED KINGDOM!!!!!

Instead you are FOCUSED on a people across the Atlantic that are NOT connected with YOU?

Why are you so focused on African Americans

Why are you not FOCUSED ON BLACKS IN EUROPE?

Our struggles are Legion, Legendary filled with TRIUMP and sadness.  This is WELL DOCUMENTED.

Now days you can see us in THE MEDIA IN ALL AREAS OF LIFE:  ENTERTAINMENT; SEX; POLITICAL; ECONOMICAL; SPIRITUAL, ETC.
What we cannot see is YOU AND BLACK BRITIAN IN ANY AREA BUT ENTERTAINMENT!!!!!  THERE IS NO black politicians, policemen, judges, mega businessmen, etc. in the Black Britian public. 

Again, Our Fugged up struggles are WELL KNOWN, what is not well KNOWN is why people like YOU. In Europe are so Silent!
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by cap28: 4:12pm On Oct 17, 2010
MandingoII:


We Blacks in the U.S. have given you a template, yet you Africans in the U.K. remain PASSIVE.

just thought id respond to the above:  the "template" that you claim to have given africans in the UK exists only in your feverish and unhinged imagination, let me enlighten you on a few facts, africans only started coming to the UK in large numbers as recently as the 1980s onwards we had no interest in being a part of a system built on the doctrine of white supremacy, we had fought for and acquired independence from white colonialists in the 1960s and our next step was to develop and build up our economies in order to make our people capable of competing with the western nations as equals not as pathetic subservient slaves.  

Only a deluded fool would imagine that a black minority making up only 13 % of the population of a country and who were brought to that country as chattel would ever acheive equality with a white majority with a  400 year head start.

We are not begging whites in the UK for the crumbs of inclusion because we know that that is a battle meant for delusional loosers like african americans.  Africans know that you can only acheive economic and political independence IF YOU ARE THE MASTER OF YOUR OWN DESTINY, Marcus Garvey knew this and this is why he advocated the back to africa programme which was met with derision from the likes of desperate Du Bois. 80 years after Garvey's call for Pan africanism african americans are still begging whites to recognise them as equal citizens in a nation that does not want them.

You sit in america fighting for the left overs thrown to you by white america, your men are all banged up in maximum security  prisons, your families have been destroyed through drugs, poor education and white supremacist policies and STILL you think you are better off than blacks in africa who are in much better mental shape than the majority of african american blacks .  

yes the white establishement has allowed a few lap dogs to be given prominent jobs;

condoleeza rice
colin powell
oprah winfrey
bill cosby

and it has allowed some rented negroes in the entertainment industry to amass huge wealth:
P diddy
Jay Zee
Beyonce
Halle Berry
Samuel L jackson

but pray tell, what have these people done to advance the cause of the average black person (like yourself) in america - JACKSHIT thats what, and you know what the minute they ever stand up to denounce any aspect of the white supremacist establishement that made them rich they will be dead meat and they know it.
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by Nobody: 4:31pm On Oct 17, 2010
^^ Applause to you Cap! Well said. Im tired of people particularly Americans trying to use struggle as a way to futher justify seperatism. What is going on in Nigeria should be EXTREMELY important to blacks abroad because its not like we came here on a reservation on some high class Titanic like cruise. We are here due to messed up circumstances but we are still black and to say we are being "attacked" is not paranoia, there is a reason why as you noted that the UN, international community refuse to educate us of eachother and thats because with unity we are a force to be reconed with, so they intend to rob Africa and black Americans while miseducating us. Mandingo and ppl like him in America do a HUGE misservice when they educate themselves to point the finger.

Mandingo I am not here to gang up on you but you do need to check yourself a bit.
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by MandingoII(m): 5:10pm On Oct 17, 2010
WHICH GOES TO SHOW, [size=16pt]YOU CAN BE BLACK AND BLESSED IN AMERIKKA[/size]
WHEREAS,

YOU WILL NEVER- BE BLACK AND BLESSED OUTSIDE OF AMERIKKA

Here you have a JADED NIGERIAN LIVING IN THE UNITED KINGDOM, HATING ON ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING BLACK IN AMERIKKA,

This FOOL IS DOING NOTHING to uplift his fellow Blacks in the United Kingdom, (besides vent his hatred toward anything BLACK in Africa and AMERIKKA)

I'd rather be a 2nd Class citizen in the United States than a 4TH class citizen in the United Kingdom and materially starved one in AFRICA.

NIGGA YOU ARE DESPAIRED!
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by MandingoII(m): 5:16pm On Oct 17, 2010
[size=18pt]EVERYBODY WANT TO BE US!!!![/size]

EVEN white Americans wanna be Black


I still do not no ONE famous Black United Kingdom Black that is not an entertainer.

Besides, the Black Carribbean people look DOWN on you.

You got issues, Bruh.

What are your solutions to Black U.K. Self-Determination?

You do not have ANY!!!!!

You are  a typical well-read Nigerian[b][size=18pt], All talk, NO SOLUTIONS[/b][/size]
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by cap28: 6:03pm On Oct 17, 2010
MzDarkSkin:

^^ Applause to you Cap! Well said. Im tired of people particularly Americans trying to use struggle as a way to futher justify seperatism. What is going on in Nigeria should be EXTREMELY important to blacks abroad because its not like we came here on a reservation on some high class Titanic like cruise. We are here due to messed up circumstances but we are still black and to say we are being "attacked" is not paranoia, there is a reason why as you noted that the UN, international community refuse to educate us of eachother and thats because with unity we are a force to be reconed with, so they intend to rob Africa and black Americans while miseducating us. Mandingo and ppl like him in America do a HUGE misservice when they educate themselves to point the finger.

Mandingo I am not here to gang up on you but you do need to check yourself a bit.

thanks Mz Darkskin, Mandingo is a prime example of how white america has failed its black population, years of systematic brainwashing has created the type of diseased mentality that you see in the likes of Mandingo. 

Why would anyone respect a person who hates themself? Mandingo  rails against the injustices of white supremacy but  in the same breath declares that he is superior to his african brother.  How can a white man respect you when you hate yourself? do you see white americans disassociating themselves from their european origins, does former mayor of new york Rudy Giulanni speak with contempt about his italian ancestry?

Does Bill Clinton speak with derision about the ravages of the potatoe famine and poverty in ireland that drove many of his irish ancestors to seek a better life in america?

Mandingo is  totally and completely devoid of any iota of common sense, he is  caught up in the gangsta rap mentality and culture that was created by the white corporate entertainment industry of america and THAT is his template.
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by MandingoII(m): 6:24pm On Oct 17, 2010
^^^^^

[size=20pt]THAT IS ONE BITTER BLACK MAN LIVING IN THE UK[/size]


You are probably ILLEGAL

You mad because America will not give you a visa

and lets be CLEAR, You mofo's sold us into slavery.

Also,

Just because we share some of the same skin shades - do not mean we are BROTHERS!!!

Your CULTURE is vastly DIFFERENT than our culture,
We do not have Juju, accuse kids of witchcraft, impoverish our people - then send the money out of our country into Swedish banks, take Trillions of dollars in International Aid for the elites, have buffoon leaders like buffoon-leaders  like Idi Amin and Mobutu Sese Seko, (add the nigerian KLEPTOCRACY HERE)

No. We are a people that CONTINUE TO FIGHT!!!!

It is a STRUGGLE BEING BLACK, YET WE IN AMERIKKA FIGHT!!!

and there is NOTHING WRONG with enjoying the GOOD LIFE.

You must be crazy if you think we are not going to MAKE MANIFEST ALL THIS GOODNESS in Amerikka.  (Even in the face of white hate)

SURE, Amerikka is racist - taking all your African resources and having them manufactured in Asia - then sending them to us at a discount price. shocked -

You must be crazy if you think we are not going to BE ALLL WE CAN BE , while living the GOOD LIFE!!!!!!!
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by cap28: 6:41pm On Oct 17, 2010
MandingoII:

WHICH GOES TO SHOW, [size=16pt]YOU CAN BE BLACK AND BLESSED IN AMERIKKA[/size]
WHEREAS,

YOU WILL NEVER- BE BLACK AND BLESSED OUTSIDE OF AMERIKKA

Here you have a JADED NIGERIAN LIVING IN THE UNITED KINGDOM, HATING ON ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING BLACK IN AMERIKKA,

This FOOL IS DOING NOTHING to uplift his fellow Blacks in the United Kingdom, (besides vent his hatred toward anything BLACK in Africa and AMERIKKA)

I'd rather be a 2nd Class citizen in the United States than a 4TH class citizen in the United Kingdom and materially starved one in AFRICA.

NIGGA YOU ARE DESPAIRED!



Oh so you have finally agreed that you are black - praise the lord!!!

What is your definition of being blessed?  Let me explain something to you Mandingo, no man can rise above his people, do you understand what that means?

It means that as long as you are part of a race of people who are universally derided you will be treated with contempt every where you go in the world UNTIL you demonstrate as a RACE not as one individual that you are capable of being masters of your own destiny.  

I know you have never read any of Garvey's work but try reading some of his speeches, you see Garvey understood that in order for blacks all over the world to be respected we would have to  unite in order to found at least ONE economically and politically independent black nation.  He accurately forsaw that the black race would only gain recognition and respect if it could boast of having even one great super power that could stand on its own two feet without any external interference from europe or america.

How can you talk about being blessed when every aspect of your life as an african american is controlled by white supremacist american govt policy?

the blacks in america who have "achieved fame , wealth and status in america have done so on white america's terms.  

The US govt PAID OFF what was left of your remaining civil rights leaders - Jesse Jackson became an instant millionaire once he decided to compromise his militant views, Andrew Young (former mayor of atlanta and ambassador to the UN was paid off with the aforementioned positions in govt, today andrew young is a multi milionaire business man who even has contacts with high ranking political figures in the nigerian govt)

You see just as Malcolm X said  you have been bamboozled by your white supremacist masters, they have lulled you (yet again) into a sense of false security, convincing you that you won the civil rights battle in the 60's when in reality all that happened was that all your militant leaders who failed to be bought off with money and high positions in the US govt were murdered or incarcerated.  
To say that you are a second class citizen in america is an understatement you are actually a member of an underclass, and you will remain a member of that underclass as long as you are a black man living in a society where whites remain in the majority and control the socio economic destiny of blacks in that country.
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by LouisThoru(f): 6:48pm On Oct 17, 2010
America is full of slaves. LOL, including sons and daughters of slaves. LOL

Any black person who sees America as home and looks down on Africa, and the African people, or the black person in diaspora, must be reminded who he or she is, a slave son or daughter, beaten and battered, seperated, hated, looked down upon and fed the white man's remnants, that person needs his head examined and his or her butt hole fried with pepper until he or she sees reality.

Any black man, outside AFRICA, REMAINS NOTHING BUT A SLAVE AND THE PRODUCT OF SLAVERY.
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by cap28: 7:00pm On Oct 17, 2010
MandingoII:

^^^^^

[size=20pt]THAT IS ONE BITTER BLACK MAN LIVING IN THE UK[/size]


You are probably ILLEGAL

You mad because America will not give you a visa

and lets be CLEAR, You mofo's sold us into slavery.

Also,

Just because we share some of the same skin shades - do not mean we are BROTHERS!!!

Your CULTURE is vastly DIFFERENT than our culture,
We do not have Juju, accuse kids of witchcraft, impoverish our people - then send the money out of our country into Swedish banks, take Trillions of dollars in International Aid for the elites, have buffoon leaders like buffoon-leaders  like Idi Amin and Mobutu Sese Seko, (add the nigerian KLEPTOCRACY HERE)

No. We are a people that CONTINUE TO FIGHT!!!!

It is a STRUGGLE BEING BLACK, YET WE IN AMERIKKA FIGHT!!!

and there is NOTHING WRONG with enjoying the GOOD LIFE.

You must be crazy if you think we are not going to MAKE MANIFEST ALL THIS GOODNESS in Amerikka.  (Even in the face of white hate)

SURE, Amerikka is racist - taking all your African resources and having them manufactured in Asia - then sending them to us at a discount price. shocked -

You must be crazy if you think we are not going to BE ALLL WE CAN BE , while living the GOOD LIFE!!!!!!!



you keep droning on about fighting - but what are you fighting for? the illusion of inclusion!!!  i laugh in igbo grin grin grin grin grin

you are a joke - a wise man chooses his battles, you have chosen the wrong battle because it is doomed to end in failure, who are your leaders?

Obama
Al Sharpton
Louis Farrakhan

who are they and where are they??

Look at all your militant leaders  - even Louis farakhan knows there is a limit to how far he can go in his criticism of white supremacist america- look at how the FBI destroyed the black panther movement in the 60's using black informants to grass on their own people, look at the likes of mumia al jamar an intelligent black man placed on death row on trumped up charges of killing a police officer, and this is the society that you beleive black people in africa are envious of?  you must think people are as st.up.id as you are.

What good life are you enjoying, working three jobs in order to pay your bills, living from pay check to paycheck, fighting for everything - what kind of good life is that??

by the way your american multinationals appropriate our raw materials but they do so NOT to provide the likes of you with cheap manufactured products but to amass record breaking profits for their shareholders, you better get it right, you are not the beneficiary of america's capitalist economy, its the 1% who own america who are laughing all the way to the bank.

Nike trainers manufactured in indonesia and thailand by child workers cost about $1 to make but Nike still sells them on to brainwashed individuals like you (who love to wear labels,  for $100) - so tell me who is gaining from that? you or the multinational and their shareholders?
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by MandingoII(m): 7:26pm On Oct 17, 2010
whats GOING ON IN BLACK BRITIAN.
while i sip my chai vanilla tea, Watch Football on my 50" HD Television, in my entertainment room the size of a nigerian HOUSE!
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by Nobody: 7:29pm On Oct 17, 2010
MandingoII:

whats GOING ON IN BLACK BRITIAN.
while i sip my chai vanilla tea, Watch Football on my 50" HD Television, in my entertainment room the size of a nigerian HOUSE!


Look at this loser, since when is 50" HD something fascinating. A Nigerian house or one of those projects you AA be relishing in?
Re: Why Is America So Blessed? by cap28: 7:31pm On Oct 17, 2010
MandingoII:

^^^^^

Your CULTURE is vastly DIFFERENT than our culture,
We do not have Juju, accuse kids of witchcraft, impoverish our people - then send the money out of our country into Swedish banks, take Trillions of dollars in International Aid for the elites, have buffoon leaders like buffoon-leaders  like Idi Amin and Mobutu Sese Seko, (add the nigerian KLEPTOCRACY HERE)


What is your culture? do you not understand that you have no culture, do you not understand that your language, your identity, your humanity was stripped away from you by your white slave masters, everything you are today was superimposed on you by your former slave master, your language, your world view, your dress, your religion are all alien to your ancestral origin, do you not know anything about where you originated from?

Mobutu sese seko of Zaire and Idi Amin of Uganda were western puppets aided and abetted by the US and British govts.

Mobutu was a US state dept asset or CIA agent, everyone except you seems to know this, he was imposed on the Zairean people for 35 years.

A charismatic and democratically elected leader by the name of Patrice Lumumba had been Zaire's head of state until the unwelcome entry onto the Zairean political scene of Mobutu.

The US govt didnt want lumumba in power because he was planning on nationalising the mining industry which the american and belgian multinational corporations were controlling.

Lumumba's  plan was to kick all the foreign multinationals out of Zaire, thats why your govt colluded with the Belgians and had him murdered.

An american former CIA agent went public on this a number of years ago and described how he was driving around Kinshasa with Lumumba's body in the trunk of his car until he was given the order by the US state dept  to destroy the remains of the body. He was instructed to burn the body up beyond recognition using acid - dont take my word for it do the research.

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