MzDarkSkin:

@ Cap that was beautifully written. I am IMPRESSED. Divide and Conquer is definitely a white man's nature the only thing is even after all that they have done to EVERY race (even their own) it's like people never seem to cease falling for their trap. Sad!

I am WELL aware of what has been done to Africa and how artificial the flags, the national mottos and even the name of the countries are however now that that has happened I want to know how can Africa go on from that? What will it take for Africans to realize that the beef is no longer amongst tribes but that we as a race of people are being targeted? Nothing saddens me more than to see Igbo vs. Yoruba, Krahn vs. Mandingo, Tutsi vs. Hutu and the white man just standing there watching the mess happen with his hands on his belly grinning and yet those same fighting tribes KNOW he is the cause of the havoc but are still killing themselves to be amongst his kind.

In my view if at least one powerful black nation can emerge in africa and become industrialised in the next 50 years we will stand a chance of survival against the coming onslaught of white supremacy but in order to do that we have to totally change our current mindset, we have to sever all links with the white supremacist ideology and do what the chinese and japanese did - rediscover our own identity and start to build on that. We need to be mentally and physically disciplined in order to do that - the first step is organisation - we need to organise and come up with a blue print that will enable us to move forward as a powerful continent or nation capable of competing on the world stage as an equal partner and not as the proverbial poor relative.

MandingoII:

Zimbabwe already accomplished this

and you see how WESTERN MEDIA turned it around on them.

even nonthinking blacks were on the MEDIA'S side.

AjanleKoko:

It's amazing that the US, a country with such a dark recent history (Jim Crow, slavery, the KKK, etc) should be spoken of so glowingly by Africans.
Simply amazing. Black people definitely have a lot to learn about life.

amazonia:

Yes, America had and still having multitudes of problems.
They don't have illusions of being perfect. That's while the
system's check and balance are regularly assessed, and
laws are reviewed, and adjustments are made to correct
unintended consequences.
They did had" a dark recent history", and they are not proud
of it .They have turned a new page, mostly, their intentions are
to serve their citizens interests. Though, they are not meeting
all desired interests, their efforts are transparent and accountable.
So, i won't mind writing glowingly about it, because is the best
national citizenry the world have to offer today.America is so
blessed, because of the stability of their system of government.
And their continue efforts to make quality of life better spurring
innovation.

It's amazing that the US, a country with such a dark recent history (Jim Crow, slavery, the KKK, etc) should be spoken of so glowingly by Africans.
Simply amazing. Black people definitely have a lot to learn about life.

tpiah!:




we think with our emotions.

not necessarily a bad thing, perhaps.

AjanleKoko:

It's amazing that the US, a country with such a dark recent history (Jim Crow, slavery, the KKK, etc) should be spoken of so glowingly by Africans.
Simply amazing. Black people definitely have a lot to learn about life.

amazonia:

Yes, America had and still having multitudes of problems.
They don't have illusions of being perfect. That's while the
system's check and balance are regularly assessed, and
laws are reviewed, and adjustments are made to correct
unintended consequences.
They did had" a dark recent history", and they are not proud
of it .They have turned a new page, mostly, their intentions are
to serve their citizens interests. Though, they are not meeting
all desired interests, their efforts are transparent and accountable.
So, i won't mind writing glowingly about it, because is the best
national citizenry the world have to offer today.America is so
blessed, because of the stability of their system of government.
And their continue efforts to make quality of life better spurring
innovation.

AjanleKoko:

It's amazing that the US, a country with such a dark recent history (Jim Crow, slavery, the KKK, etc) should be spoken of so glowingly by Africans.
Simply amazing. Black people definitely have a lot to learn about life.

amazonia:

America is blessed, because the society knows, that all rules and Laws are made
to protect them. And these laws and rules are always under close scrutiny to make
sure they are serving the purposes intended. Amendments are made when necessary.
to increase the benefits of the rules to citizens.

cap28:

You are right, i find it puzzling myself that africans speak in glowing terms about america given its racial history. 

Its really bizarre, i mean these are people who enslaved our ancestors, brutalised and degraded them and denied them their humanity.   Today people of african descent or origin  in america continue to experience discrimination and are treated as inferior to the white race because of this terrible legacy and yet africans love america - i dont understand it.

America is a country run by a small and powerful elite who put their own interests before the interests of the people. The original constitution was drafted by members of the american ruling class - ie the slave owners, merchants, financiers and politicians  - these people's aim was not to provide a democratic system of govt but to protect their own interests and perpetuate themselves in power.

Everything that the american people have today ie workers rights, women's rights, voting rights was not given automatically by the elite but had to be fought for by the people.

Over the years changes were made to the constitution but this was not done voluntarily by the govt but only when people rose up and fought the system  - a good example is the blacks fighting back in the 1950s and 60s  to end the JIm Crow system - if america was a country that beleived in equality, fairness and justice there wouldnt be such a huge gap in terms of education and living standards between white americans and black americans.  The whites already had a 400 year head start over blacks and it will take many generations for that gap to narrow, furthermore whites are in the majority, occupy the majority of postions in govt and are in control of economic policy - it is therefore unlikely that they will create a system which will weaken their own position and strengthen the position of blacks.

tpiah!:

^^slow your roll.

take a deep breath, then reread slowly.

the posts you're responding to, were referring to africans, not so?

archive:

Change the record

archive:

I'm not sure what you're talking about but I was referring to all of those posters that continue to cry and moan about something that never affected them directly nor (if I'm not mistaken that posters on here are not black american) affected their ancestors. Forget about 'black man' solidarity. It's a vain and pointless concept. African NATIONS are what matter now. Learn from the past but use it to work on the current. Instead of solutions, all I read from some are these tired arguments about how the black man is being suppressed. We don't help ourselves, and that is the plain truth

cap28:

Whites unlike blacks prefer to identify with their own people, you only have to travel outside europe or north america and see how expatriate whites always stick together and network amongst their own people, ive been to countries in africa where whites live in gated communities and do not interact with the indigenous people, i also have friends who've worked in the middle east and its the same thing there too - white expatriates stick together and prefer to be around their own people, how come its only blacks who don't think its necessary to maintain solidarity with their own?

AjanleKoko:
Transparent and accountable? Maybe only to their citizens, or maybe even a section of their citizens. But to the rest of the world whose citizens have to pay for these 'interests', I hardly think they'd be happy to stand by and happily applaud.

cap28:

I'll change the record when you face up to reality and stop pretending as if what happened in the past has no bearing on what is happening to the black race today.

The fact that you as a black person had to leave your own country and go abroad to acheive a decent standard of living indicates that you along with many african people ARE directly affected by africa's past legacy ie colonialism and exploitation of our economies by the west.  If you and a european person with the same qualifications were to go to live in any part of africa today to look for the same type of employment , the european would have access to better employment opportunities than you, the same principle would apply if both of you were to go to australia, canada, south africa, far east asia and the carribean - there is nowhere in the world that any black person has an equal chance with a european - even in africa - why do you think that is the case?

You say black man solidarity is a vain and pointless concept - funny you should say that because whites dont think that at all - thats why they set up NATO, the IMF, the world bank WTO etc, they know unlike you that real power comes from collective organisation and thats why they control how you and i live in this world, whether you want to accept it or not you do not have the same opportunities in this world as your white or even asian counterparts.  Whites unlike blacks prefer to identify with their own people, you only have to travel outside europe or north america and see how expatriate whites always stick together and network amongst their own people, ive been to countries in africa where whites live in gated communities and do not interact with the indigenous people, i also have friends who've worked in the middle east and its the same thing there too - white expatriates stick together and prefer to be around their own people, how come its only blacks who don't think its necessary to maintain solidarity with their own?

Since you beleive that black solidarity is pointless - id like to hear what your own solutions are.

AjanleKoko:

I'm yet to see any country in this world - and I have been to every continent save Australasia - where white expatriates live in the same communities as indigenous people. Whether Africa, Asia, or the Middle East. They always create their own gated environment.

I always ask people who live abroad - why is it that black people can't bond successfully? They always give me a dozen examples of how most black people are swindlers and frauds etc etc. And I wonder if there are no bad eggs among the Asians who always form thick, strongly-bonded communities in most of these countries.

People may not agree, but after all said and done, most black people are suffering from an inherent inferiority complex. Which is the primary reason why nothing much has changed. Even when we look for solutions to our problems, we look where? in the direction of the white man. Yes, white's got all the answers.

cap28:

I'll change the record when you face up to reality and stop pretending as if what happened in the past has no bearing on what is happening to the black race today.

The fact that you as a black person had to leave your own country and go abroad to acheive a decent standard of living indicates that you along with many african people ARE directly affected by africa's past legacy ie colonialism and exploitation of our economies by the west.  If you and a european person with the same qualifications were to go to live in any part of africa today to look for the same type of employment , the european would have access to better employment opportunities than you, the same principle would apply if both of you were to go to australia, canada, south africa, far east asia and the carribean - there is nowhere in the world that any black person has an equal chance with a european - even in africa - why do you think that is the case?

You say black man solidarity is a vain and pointless concept - funny you should say that because whites dont think that at all - thats why they set up NATO, the IMF, the world bank WTO etc, they know unlike you that real power comes from collective organisation and thats why they control how you and i live in this world, whether you want to accept it or not you do not have the same opportunities in this world as your white or even asian counterparts.  Whites unlike blacks prefer to identify with their own people, you only have to travel outside europe or north america and see how expatriate whites always stick together and network amongst their own people, ive been to countries in africa where whites live in gated communities and do not interact with the indigenous people, i also have friends who've worked in the middle east and its the same thing there too - white expatriates stick together and prefer to be around their own people, how come its only blacks who don't think its necessary to maintain solidarity with their own?

Since you beleive that black solidarity is pointless - id like to hear what your own solutions are.