Truvel:
I'm Not Complaining Oo. I Only Want People To Know What The Prophetic Office Is All Abt. & What Their Experience Would Look Like If Dey Happen To Be One.

You are crying more than the bereaved, biko no put fear for my body.

Are you a prophet?

EVERY FIELD OF ENDEAVOUR ON THIS EARTH INVOLVES DEATH.

Truvel:
My Dear, It May Be Difficult 4 U To Understand. All I'm Saying Is Dat The Office Of A Prophet Involves Death( Which Involves Severe Suffering) Yes. Whereby God Puts An End To D Works Of D Flesh In D Life Of D Prophets. How? Tru Suffering. God Will Drill U. Dis Drilling Comes With Suffering. I Know U May Find It Difficult To Understand But Honestly Dat's D Truth. Dis Death( Dat Involves suffering) Is Called Prophetic Preparation. Doze Called To Dis Would Understand Better.

Nuttella:
You are crying more than the bereaved, biko no put fear for my body.

Are you a prophet?

Lol, I No Dey Put Fear 4 Ur Body Oo. I'm By His Grace. But Dis Experience Is Real.

petra1:


Can i ask you a question?
Why do you think so ?

It's Not Abt What I Think. It's D Process Every Prophet Of God Must Pass Tru. Every Prophet Of God Has To Pass Tru Dis Fire B4 He Or She Can Become A Golden Vessel Or A Vessel Unto Honour.

Truvel:
It's Not Abt What I Think. It's D Process Every Prophet Of God Must Pass Tru. Every Prophet Of God Has To Pass Tru Dis Fire B4 He Or She Can Become A Golden Vessel Or A Vessel Unto Honour.

Where did you get the information from

Continuation: After Ur Preparation Comes To An End & When God Sees Dat U Av Been Really Dealt With & Av Come To D Level Of Acceptance, Ur Training Starts. In Dis Training God Begins To Teach U How To Use D Key Of Authority & Power ( Just Like What Elijah Used) U Will Undergo Training Under A Prophet. Just Like (master Elijah & Discipleship or mentorship Elisha, Master Moses & Mentorship Joshua, Master Paul, Mentorship Timothy. Just Like Dat. During Dis Training, D Master Would Impact His Knowledge To His Discipleship Or Mentorship. After Awhile There Would Be Seperation Btw Dem. D Disciple Or D Mentorship Becomes A Master. Just Like What Happened Btw Elijah & Elisha. Elisha Became A Master & He Started Doing What His Master Was Doing. D Process To Dis Stage Is Not An Easy One. It's Tough.

Truvel:
Lol, I No Dey Put Fear 4 Ur Body Oo. I'm By His Grace. But Dis Experience Is Real.

Truvel:
Continuation: After Ur Preparation Comes To An End & When God Sees Dat U Av Been Really Dealt With & Av Come To D Level Of Acceptance, Ur Training Starts. In Dis Training God Begins To Teach U How To Use D Key Of Authority & Power ( Just Like What Elijah Used) U Will Undergo Training Under A Prophet. Just Like (master Elijah & Discipleship or mentorship Elisha, Master Moses & Mentorship Joshua, Master Paul, Mentorship Timothy. Just Like Dat. During Dis Training, D Master Would Impact His Knowledge To His Discipleship Or Mentorship. After Awhile There Would Be Seperation Btw Dem. D Disciple Or D Mentorship Becomes A Master. Just Like What Happened Btw Elijah & Elisha. Elisha Became A Master & He Started Doing What His Master Was Doing. D Process To Dis Stage Is Not An Easy One. It's Tough.

You are right.

If U Are Called To The Office Of A Prophet (leadership Gift Or Ministry) U Are Going To Pass Tru D Fiery Furnace ( Hell On Earth).

There is a reason you have refused to answer my questions. What you have said here is not Scriptural. If I am wrong, correct me with Scriptures.

Isaiah 59: 15 Truth is nowhere to be found, and whoever shuns evil becomes a prey. YHVH looked and was displeased that there was no justice.

John 15:18 “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. 20 Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. 21 They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the one who sent me.


2 Timothy 3:12 In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in the Messiah Yahushua will be persecuted, 13 while evildoers and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

None of the Scriptures above mentioned prophet, prophetic gift/ministry or whatever.

Every saint of Yahushua the Messiah in this world will face hatred, rejection and persecution. This is because they stand contrary to what the world cherishes, which is sin.

Standing for truth and righteousness in this sinful and depraved world will bring hatred, rejection and persecution.

Truvel:
If U Are Called To The Office Of A Prophet (leadership Gift Or Ministry) U Are Going To Pass Tru D Fiery Furnace ( Hell On Earth).

There is no such thing as office of a prophet.

Every saint of Yahushua the Messiah will experience persecution in this sinful and depraved world.

Nuttella:
You are right.

Not according to the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Note how every one of the 'examples' claimed in your every story seems to steal from the Old Covenant and has no element of Jesus Christ or His teachings in it?

Truvel:
Continuation: After Ur Preparation Comes To An End & When God Sees Dat U Av Been Really Dealt With & Av Come To D Level Of Acceptance, Ur Training Starts. In Dis Training God Begins To Teach U How To Use D Key Of Authority & Power ( Just Like What Elijah Used) U Will Undergo Training Under A Prophet. Just Like (master Elijah & Discipleship or mentorship Elisha, Master Moses & Mentorship Joshua, Master Paul, Mentorship Timothy.

You failed to add who mentored John the Baptist.

Truvel:
Just Like Dat. During Dis Training, D Master Would Impact His Knowledge To His Discipleship Or Mentorship. After Awhile There Would Be Seperation Btw Dem. D Disciple Or D Mentorship Becomes A Master. Just Like What Happened Btw Elijah & Elisha. Elisha Became A Master & He Started Doing What His Master Was Doing. D Process To Dis Stage Is Not An Easy One. It's Tough.

Ehehehehe! These people sef!


It was always going to end in what you stated above: "spiritual father/papa/daddy and spiritual son." What a joke!

Truvel:
I'm Not Complaining Oo. I Only Want People To Know What The Prophetic Office Is All Abt. & What Their Experience Would Look Like If Dey Happen To Be One.

Mmhmm!

Kobojunkie:
Not according to the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Note how every one of the 'examples' claimed in your every story seems to steal from the Old Covenant and has no element of Jesus Christ or His teachings in it?

What exactly are you saying..?

Nuttella:
What exactly are you saying..?

I am saying that so long as you continue to believe yourself a prophet like the Old Covenant Prophets, you are in the wrong! For one you are not a descendant of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob -- you are essentially a foreigner (non-Israelite) living in a foreign land (land not the land of Canaan that was promised), so you are not included in the Old Covenant.

Instead, in His New Covenant, God has installed every one of His followers as messengers/prophets, bearing His Teaching/message to those in the world. God Himself, through Jesus Christ (The Spirit of Truth), is the one and only Teacher/Mentor/Guide/Counselor/Helper/Trainer to those who follow after Him.

Kobojunkie:
I am saying that so long as you continue to believe yourself a prophet like the Old Covenant Prophets, you are in the wrong! For one you are not a descendant of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob -- you are essentially a foreigner (non-Israelite) living in a foreign land (land not the land of Canaan that was promised), so you are not included in the Old Covenant.

Instead, in His New Covenant, God has installed every one of His followers as messengers/prophets, bearing His Teaching/message to those in the world. God Himself, through Jesus Christ (The Spirit of Truth), is the one and only Teacher/Mentor/Guide/Counselor/Helper/Trainer to those who follow after Him.

Yes o. God trains his prophets himself these days.

elated177:



You failed to add who mentored John the Baptist.




Ehehehehe! These people sef!


It was always going to end in what you stated above: "spiritual father/papa/daddy and spiritual son." What a joke!

Every Pastor U See Or Hear About Came Out 4rm Somewhere. If U Don't Av Where U Came Out 4rm Den U Are A Bastard.

Back To Preparation (continuation 4rm Where I Stopped)
God Is Going To Deal With Any Form Of Insecurity In U. Is D Fear Of Men Ur Problem? God Will Deal With It. Are U D Type Dat Feels Dat U Are Too Beautiful To Look At? Sorry, God Will Strip U Of D Beauty. Are U D Type Dat Love Money? Sorry, God Will Strip U Of It. Are U D Type Dat Gets Angry Easily Or At Any Slight Thing? Sorry, God Is Going To Deal With It. Are U D Type Dat Value Ur Job Or Money More Dan Anything? Sorry, God Will Take It Away 4rm U. Are U Dat Stingy Type? Sorry, God Will With It. Are U D Type Seeking Attention? Sorry, God Will Deal With It. Are U D Type Seeking Recognition? My Dear, Sorry, God Will Take It 4rm U. Are U D Type Dat Relies On Ur Ability? Sorry, God Is Going To Take It Away 4rm U. Are U D Stubborn Type? Ah, Sorry, God Will So Much Deal With U Until U Become Soft Like Pawpaw Etc. D Period Of All Dis Dealing Or Drilling Is Known As Night ( Sorrow, Agony, Secret Tears, Troubles) But Ur Morning Would Come If U Co-operate Well. B.R.B

petra1:


Can i ask you a question?
Why do you think so ?

It's A Personal Experience. & I Av Seen Dat Happen In D Lives Of Others Who Had Dis Call. D Books I Read Explained Dsame.

Truvel:
Every Pastor U See Or Hear About Came Out 4rm Somewhere. If U Don't Av Where U Came Out 4rm Den U Are A Bastard.

Struck a nerve there, did I?


Ehehehehe! You are not even worth it. I was wondering where you were going with the op till your last few posts.


Don't worry yourself. I have my Father... Yahveh Almighty, my Father in heaven.

I have a human father....my biological father.

I have a Counselor, a Mentor if you prefer, the Set-apart Spirit of my Father in heaven who lives in me. I have a spiritual Leader, the Word of Yahveh Almighty, Yahushua the Messiah.


Everything I disseminate, I receive directly from the Instructor himself, the Word of Yahveh Almighty, Yahushua the Messiah. He receives all the glory and honor. Not some egocentric human being somewhere out there who desires obeisances each time his so-called sons say or do anything.

It is not even remotely possible for me to be a bastard...not physically and, most definitely, not spiritually.

delkuf:
do you really believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. I don't think so because if you do, you won't be saying this

God bless you, you're 100% right.

ichuka:

Hi bro
you are right in most of what you wrote,but,Prophetic Ministry has nothing to do with an office. its not an office one walks in and out whenever he/she pleases but "its who you are" its either you are born into it or not.you can't fast n pray to become a prophet tommorow not possible.
within the five fold ministry I believe the prophet is the hardest in our time.most of what we see and hear today that calls themselves prophets are clowns.
to become a prophet the Word of God you receive must become your flesh.which isn't a child's play.
a good example is the life of Moses in the Bible.most
true prophets in Nigeria are even scared of there call.

D Prophetic Ministry Is Different 4rm D Prophetic Office Even Though Dey May Av Similarity. D Prophetic Office ( Leadership Gift) Is A Higher Calling Included In D Fivefold Ministry According To D Book Of Eph4:11. Take Note D Word Office There Means Position Or Leadership Position.

Nuttella:
I understand that being a prophet is not an easy road but I think you are exaggerating the suffering we will suffer. God is there to protect his prophets, we didnt choose to be one, he called us for a purpose, even though the training process can be painful, but we will prevail at the end.

I Could Feel Ur Fears In Ur Words Even As I Read Dem But Honestly Speaking, I'm Not Exaggerating. I May Even Be Understating. Why? Words Alone Is Not Even Enough To Explain What D Experience Would Look Like. The Lord Is Ur Strenght.

petra1:


I dont agree that prophets have to suffer lack. But I agree that there is a lot of sufferings . Sometimes emotional and spiritual. There are things you may see that you are not allowed to say. Individuals that may die soon because of the way they live and you're not allowed to warn them .

Of course there are changes yiu can effect by prayers but there are also secrets that you cant talk about yet you wish you could

2 Corinthians 12:4
How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter .

D Prophet Will Suffer Lack If It Has Something To Do With What God Doesn't Want. Yes, No, Stone Would Be Left Unturned. God Is Going To Deal With Any Form Of Negative Character Or Behaviour. It's A Tough One.

delkuf:
do you really believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. I don't think so because if you do, you won't be saying this

Bro, I Understand How U Feel. If I Were In Ur Shoes I Would Reason Dsame But Dis Not 4 Everyone, It Is Meant 4 D Genuine Prophets Of God, Yes. Dey Will Experience Dis. No Matter How Hard I Try To Explain, U May Not Get It. Only Doze Who It's Meant 4 Would Understand.

Nuttella:
Yes o. God trains his prophets himself these days.

Everybody who is born again is a prophet of God according to the New Covenant, Jesus Christ, between God and man.

There are no "special offices", not according to Jesus Christ. So, your prophets with "special offices" are not of Jesus Christ at all. Jesus Christ does not reserve special treatment for some of His followers over others. All of His followers get the same training... every single one of them. And I can tell you that every single person who wants to be born again must submit to the same stipulations as stated by Jesus Christ Himself. The rules don't change because of some idea of "special office" like you and your fellow chatters have supposed to this point.

Obedience is the key into the Kingdom of God. Acceptance means obedience of His commandments. No one can become a follower of Jesus Christ simply by wishing for it. Jesus required that those who choose to follow Him do the work that He commands they first do i.e. Obey that which He has stipulated.

1. Be prepared to abandon parents, brother, sister, children, spouse, in-laws, e.t.c.
2. Abandon all that you know/believe, have, and all that you are
3. Bear your own burden (not someone else's cross- not even your family's or children's)

Matthew 10 vs 34-39
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34. “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace. I came to bring trouble.[h]
35. I have come to make this happen:
‘A son will turn against his father.
A daughter will turn against her mother.
A daughter-in-law will turn against her mother-in-law.
36. Even members of your own family will be your enemies.’
37. “Those who love their father or mother more than they love me are not worthy of me. And those who love their son or daughter more than they love me are not worthy of me.
38. Those who will not accept the cross that is given to them when they follow me are not worthy of me.
39. Those who try to keep the life they have will lose it. But those who give up their life for me will find true life.

4. Become a child again in your thinking and your actions

Matthew 14 vs 23-24
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23. Then he said, “The truth is, you must change your thinking and become like little children. If you don’t do this, you will never enter God’s kingdom.
24. The greatest person in God’s kingdom is the one who makes himself humble like this child.

5. Be prepared to lose life(reputation, career, control, property, etc.)

Matthew 16 vs 24-27
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24. Then Jesus said to his followers, “If any of you want to be my follower, you must stop thinking about yourself and what you want. You must be willing to carry the cross that is given to you for following me.
25. Any of you who try to save the life you have will lose it. But you who give up your life for me will find true life.
26. It is worth nothing for you to have the whole world if you yourself are lost. You could never pay enough to buy back your life.
27. The Son of Man will come again with his Father’s glory and with his angels. And he will reward everyone for what they have done.

6. Desire above all to find and enter the Kingdom of God and also walk the path of righteousness, with God as your guide every step
7. Let go of all control you have over your life and circumstances, allowing God to take care of your every need

Matthew 6 vs 25-34
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25. “So I tell you, don’t worry about the things you need to live—what you will eat, drink, or wear. Life is more important than food, and the body is more important than what you put on it.
26. Look at the birds. They don’t plant, harvest, or save food in barns, but your heavenly Father feeds them. Don’t you know you are worth much more than they are?
27. You cannot add any time to your life by worrying about it.
28. “And why do you worry about clothes? Look at the wildflowers in the field. See how they grow. They don’t work or make clothes for themselves.
29. But I tell you that even Solomon, the great and rich king, was not dressed as beautifully as one of these flowers.
30. If God makes what grows in the field so beautiful, what do you think he will do for you? It’s just grass—one day it’s alive, and the next day someone throws it into a fire. But God cares enough to make it beautiful. Surely he will do much more for you. Your faith is so small!
31. “Don’t worry and say, ‘What will we eat?’ or ‘What will we drink?’ or ‘What will we wear?’
32. That’s what those people who don’t know God are always thinking about. Don’t worry, because your Father in heaven knows that you need all these things.
33. What you should want most is God’s kingdom and doing what he wants you to do. Then he will give you all these other things you need.
34. So don’t worry about tomorrow. Each day has enough trouble of its own. Tomorrow will have its own worries.

Truvel:
It's A Personal Experience. & I Av Seen Dat Happen In D Lives Of Others Who Had Dis Call. D Books I Read Explained Dsame.

But What about many who didn't. Personal experience should not be a law.
It has nothing to do with prophets. There is persecution for every call. I know the saying "PROPHETS WALK ALONE" a prophet may not associate with crowd as others by the virtue of the demand on his call. He need to fast often to sharpen his vision and hear from heaven . But not all these issues of lack and co. If there is an office that revive money the most it is the office of a prophet. The richest ministers today are prophets . Because people give to prophets right from bible days

1Sa 9:6 — 1Sa 9:9
And he said unto him, Behold now, there is in this city a man of God, and he is an honourable man; all that he saith cometh surely to pass: now let us go thither; peradventure he can shew us our way that we should go. Then said Saul to his servant, But, behold, if we go, what shall we bring the man? for the bread is spent in our vessels, and there is not a present to bring to the man of God: what have we? And the servant answered Saul again, and said, Behold, I have here at hand the fourth part of a shekel of silver: that will I give to the man of God, to tell us our way. (Beforetime in Israel, when a man went to enquire of God, thus he spake, Come, and let us go to the seer: for he that is now called a Prophet was beforetime called a Seer.)

Kobojunkie:
Everybody who is born again is a prophet of God according to the New Covenant, Jesus Christ, between God and man.

There are no "special offices", not according to Jesus Christ. So, your prophets with "special offices" are not of Jesus Christ at all. Jesus Christ does not reserve special treatment for some of His followers over others. All of His followers get the same training... every single one of them. And I can tell you that every single person who wants to be born again must submit to the same stipulations as stated by Jesus Christ Himself. The rules don't change because of some idea of "special office" like you and your fellow chatters have supposed to this point.

Obedience is the key into the Kingdom of God. Acceptance means obedience of His commandments. No one can become a follower of Jesus Christ simply by wishing for it. Jesus required that those who choose to follow Him do the work that He commands they first do i.e. Obey that which He has stipulated.

1. Be prepared to abandon parents, brother, sister, children, spouse, in-laws, e.t.c.
2. Abandon all that you know/believe, have, and all that you are
3. Bear your own burden (not someone else's cross- not even your family's or children's)


4. Become a child again in your thinking and your actions

5. Be prepared to lose life(reputation, career, control, property, etc.)



6. Desire above all to find and enter the Kingdom of God and also walk the path of righteousness, with God as your guide every step
7. Let go of all control you have over your life and circumstances, allowing God to take care of your every need

Do you have beef with prophets or what? Everyone is not a prophet, according to saint paul In 1 corinthians 12;28, some born again are apostles, some evangelists, some teachers, some healers, some administrators, and each have their own role in the church, each have their own spiritual gifts, all of us make up the body of Christ, try and read your bible small.


Since all of us are prophets, do you see or hear like prophets, even if you can prophesy, it doesn't make you a prophet. Each of us have our own role. So stop beefing prophets.

Nuttella:
Do you have beef with prophets or what? Everyone is not a prophet, according to saint paul In 1 corinthians 12;28, some born again are apostles, some evangelists, some teachers, some healers, some administrators, and each have their own role in the church, each have their own spiritual gifts,

Correct word!

1Co 12:29 — 1Co 12:30
Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?

petra1:


Correct word!

1Co 12:29 — 1Co 12:30
Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?

Exactly, I don't know some people tend to beef prophet, being a prophet is not easy, if I see a way to run away from my call, I will do it but you can't run away from God.

Truvel:
Bro, I Understand How U Feel. If I Were In Ur Shoes I Would Reason Dsame But Dis Not 4 Everyone, It Is Meant 4 D Genuine Prophets Of God, Yes. Dey Will Experience Dis. No Matter How Hard I Try To Explain, U May Not Get It. Only Doze Who It's Meant 4 Would Understand.

Which shoe. Which genuine prophet of God, you are just miss yarning. you should be asking for forgiveness. Look at how many people are admonishing you that you are speaking nonsense still you are saying that you are saying something reasonable. Even the Bible says at the testimony of two or three people the truth is established. Now the they have been more three people telling you that you are wrong and you have refuse to receive correction. This is not a trait of a mature Christian. it is baby in Christ that behave like this