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Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by lekki1444: 6:35pm On Nov 11, 2020
Truvel:
D Person Who Introduced Daniel Was Not An Isrealite. Dat's Why He Described His God As gods. Even Though Daniel Was Appointed As Chief Of All Dis, He Never Used Dem. He Got His Revelations 4rm God Tru Dreams & Visions.
if thats your interpretation of the bible, i cant do nothing about it.

so why were the 3 wise men studying the stars ? why were they called wise ?
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by Nobody: 7:38pm On Nov 11, 2020
lekki1444:
if thats your interpretation of the bible, i cant do nothing about it.

so why were the 3 wise men studying the stars ? why were they called wise ?
Dey Were Astrologers Too. Perhaps, Dey Were Called Wise Because Dey Located D Place Jesus Was Born By Following D Star.
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by lekki1444: 7:43pm On Nov 11, 2020
Truvel:
Dey Were Astrologers Too. Perhaps, Dey Were Called Wise Because Dey Located D Place Jesus Was Born By Following D Star.
exactly. they were called wise because of astrology. so the bible considers knowledge of astrology as wisdom and prophetic. see with the bible its about reading between the lines. the wisdom of the bible is covert and not overt

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Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by generationz(f): 9:08am On Nov 12, 2020
Truvel:
I Know Dis May Sound Strange & Unacceptable To U Guys, But Is D Truth. D Office Of A Prophet Involves Death(severe Suffering). Dis Guys Would Experience D Suffering Job Experienced. Yes. Dis Death (suffering) Is 4rm God. Yes. To Get Rid Of Things Or Works Of D Flesh In D Life Of D Person. Honestly, I Don't Wish Even My Worst Enemy To Experience Dis. To D Guys Aspiring To Be One, I'm Honestly Telling U Dat U Don't Know What U Are Asking 4. If U Do, U Won't Pray Or Wish 4 It. U Won't Even Pray 4 Ur Siblings To Be One. U Are Going To Experience Hell On Earth & May Even Wish U Were Not Even Born At All. Dis May Not Go Well With U Guys But It's D Truth.

Please, learn to write in a way people can read and understand easily.
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by Nobody: 11:29am On Nov 12, 2020
generationz:


Please, learn to write in a way people can read and understand easily.
Thank U, Minister Of Education.
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by generationz(f): 11:58am On Nov 12, 2020
lekki1444:


DANIEL 5 VS 11 There is a man in your kingdom who has the spirit of the holy gods in him. In the time of your father he was found to have insight and intelligence and wisdom like that of the gods. Your father, King Nebuchadnezzar, appointed him chief of the magicians, enchanters, astrologers, and diviners. <<<< SEE DANIEL THE CHEIF OF THE ASTROLOGERS MEANING HIS OWN ASTROLOGY WAS SUPER HOT grin grin

Just because he was described as having the spirit of gods by PAGANS doesn't mean he had the spirit of gods, truly. Pagans are funny people. Even Paul and Barnabas were nearly worshiped and sacrificed to after performing a miracle

Acts 14 vs 11-18.
And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men


In the book of Daniel alone, Nebuchadnezzar acknowledged Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego's God as the God of all Gods.

The first time was when his dream was interpreted by Daniel. Remember the king had the best magicians, Socerers, and wise men and only Daniel could tell the king what his dream was. That was because that dream was put in his heart by Jehovah. There was a distinct difference between Daniels power (like Moses) and the others. Daniel 2 vs 2 - 36.

The second was when the three Hebrew boys (S, M, and A) were saved from being burnt in the furnace. Daniel 3vs 3

The third was after he recovered from his lycanthropy which occurred for 7 years and he was eating grass.

It is one thing for a pagan king to acknowledge that Jehovah is great but when a wicked pagan King, who practically ruled the whole world at that time acknowledges that One God (Daniels God ) is the GOD OF ALL GODS, in front of all his subjects, priests, etc you'll know he wasn't mincing words.

Daniel God can't be compared to the three wise men in Jesus' time. His God is different.
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by lekki1444: 12:49pm On Nov 12, 2020
generationz:


Just because he was described as having the spirit of gods by PAGANS doesn't mean he had the spirit of gods, truly. Pagans are funny people. Even Paul and Barnabas were nearly worshiped and sacrificed to after performing a miracle

Acts 14 vs 11-18.
And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men


In the book of Daniel alone, Nebuchadnezzar acknowledged Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego's God as the God of all Gods.

The first time was when his dream was interpreted by Daniel. Remember the king had the best magicians, Socerers, and wise men and only Daniel could tell the king what his dream was. That was because that dream was put in his heart by Jehovah. There was a distinct difference between Daniels power (like Moses) and the others. Daniel 2 vs 2 - 36.

The second was when the three Hebrew boys (S, M, and A) were saved from being burnt in the furnace. Daniel 3vs 3

The third was after he recovered from his lycanthropy which occurred for 7 years and he was eating grass.

It is one thing for a pagan king to acknowledge that Jehovah is great but when a wicked pagan King, who practically ruled the whole world at that time acknowledges that One God (Daniels God ) is the GOD OF ALL GODS, in front of all his subjects, priests, etc you'll know he wasn't mincing words.

Daniel God can't be compared to the three wise men in Jesus' time. His God is different.
ISAIAH 45 VS 5 I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me,

And so where do you get this idea that there are many Gods ?
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by Nobody: 1:27pm On Nov 12, 2020
Dis Thread Is Important To Doze Who May Be Passing Tru Dis Prophetic Preparation (fiery Furnace Or Severe Suffering) But Do Not Know How To Come Out Or End D Pains.
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by Airlove: 2:49pm On Nov 12, 2020
Truvel:
Dis Thread Is Important To Doze Who May Be Passing Tru Dis Prophetic Preparation (fiery Furnace Or Severe Suffering) But Do Not Know How To Come Out Or End D Pains.
The office of a prophet is totally different from the gift of prophesy. You man be a prophet by office but you will hardly “prophesy” Whereas those with the gift can prophesy more than you. One thing is sure, what a prophet in his spiritual office can pull , a person that prophesy cant do.

The training are different because the weight of the glory differs. Truvel is talking about the spiritual training to access the true unlimited power of God through the crucifixion of flesh and canal desires.
However, God loves all His children including the true prophets in their office. No prophesy in this dispensation is above the written word of God. True prophets demonstrate the Logos of scriptures as a confirmation of the Holyspirt on earth.

Send me d pdf you are referring to..
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by Airlove: 2:57pm On Nov 12, 2020
The sufferings of a true prophet should be critically examined. His suffering should he towards perfection by the Spirit of God just like how Jesus our Lord and savior learned obedience by suffering and finally became the author of eternal salvation and not suffering because of evil manipulations and schemes who are at work to prevent the rise of Gods light which he bears as a prophet anointed by God
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by generationz(f): 3:03pm On Nov 12, 2020
lekki1444:

ISAIAH 45 VS 5 I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me,

And so where do you get this idea that there are many Gods ?

So if I tell someone there is no one like you, does that mean he/ she is the only human in the world?

We all know in the old testament when lord was used in reference to Jehovah, the words used were different from when referring to human lords or smaller gods.

There are other gods worshipped by many. These gods are actual malevolent demons that demand human sacrifice and are unforgiven. There is a vast contrast between these gods and Jehovah that's why it was easy for Africans to tilt away fro the worship of gods that demanded strict ritualistic controls and sacrifice of twins and special people.

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Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by generationz(f): 3:13pm On Nov 12, 2020
Sometimes, this idea of suffering can make people take on suffering than is expected and say "God is testing you." Not everything is a test. Some are just lingering because of your lack of knowledge regarding the situation.

If you study the life of Daniel you'd see that he hardly suffered and that's because

1. He was from the royal family of the tribe of Judah. There was a spiritual covering that existed for pure members of the house of Judah due to the blessings god bestowed upon David. If your parents/ grandparents were prayerful they would have dealt with foundation problems on your behalf. You can't compare the youth of Oyakhilome (parents were pastors) to that of Idahosa whose parents were former idol worshippers.

2. He decided to separate himself from his youth. He didn't waste his time following trends. This part can be quite difficult but it has immense benefits. Once separation occurs, you become a vessel useful for the master. If you mix light and darkness together, or you keep wasting time, suffering intensifies because the powers of darkness know who has the oil on their head even when the person doesn't know.

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Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by lekki1444: 3:24pm On Nov 12, 2020
generationz:


So if I tell someone there is no one like you, does that mean he/ she is the only human in the world?

We all know in the old testament when lord was used in reference to Jehovah, the words used were different from when referring to human lords or smaller gods.

There are other gods worshipped by many. These gods are actual malevolent demons that demand human sacrifice and are unforgiven. There is a vast contrast between these gods and Jehovah that's why it was easy for Africans to tilt away fro the worship of gods that demanded strict ritualistic controls and sacrifice of twins and special people.
Yes gods with small g but only one God with capital G wink
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by Missyajoke(f): 3:33pm On Nov 12, 2020
I don't know what to say to you again.
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by Nobody: 5:41pm On Nov 12, 2020
Airlove:

The office of a prophet is totally different from the gift of prophesy. You man be a prophet by office but you will hardly “prophesy” Whereas those with the gift can prophesy more than you. One thing is sure, what a prophet in his spiritual office can pull , a person that prophesy cant do.

The training are different because the weight of the glory differs. Truvel is talking about the spiritual training to access the true unlimited power of God through the crucifixion of flesh and canal desires.
However, God loves all His children including the true prophets in their office. No prophesy in this dispensation is above the written word of God. True prophets demonstrate the Logos of scriptures as a confirmation of the Holyspirt on earth.

Send me d pdf you are referring to..
A Person In The Prophetic Office Flows In Higher Realm Of Prophecy, Authority & Power More Dan Doze Who Just Av D Gift Of Prophecy. However, Some In Prophets, Dey May Not Yet Start Being Used In D Gifts Until Dey Are Done With Their Prophetic Preparation & Training B4 God Would Entrust Dem With Is Anointing, Authority & Power. D Road To Dis Level Is Not An Easy Road. It's Real Tough. Dey Would Pass Tru D Fiery Furnace (dey Would experience hell On Earth).
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by Nobody: 6:36pm On Nov 12, 2020
Airlove:
The sufferings of a true prophet should be critically examined. His suffering should he towards perfection by the Spirit of God just like how Jesus our Lord and savior learned obedience by suffering and finally became the author of eternal salvation and not suffering because of evil manipulations and schemes who are at work to prevent the rise of Gods light which he bears as a prophet anointed by God
When D Sufferings Starts, He Or She Would Know Because God Would Him Or Her To Know.
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by Nobody: 6:38pm On Nov 12, 2020
generationz:
Sometimes, this idea of suffering can make people take on suffering than is expected and say "God is testing you." Not everything is a test. Some are just lingering because of your lack of knowledge regarding the situation.

If you study the life of Daniel you'd see that he hardly suffered and that's because

1. He was from the royal family of the tribe of Judah. There was a spiritual covering that existed for pure members of the house of Judah due to the blessings god bestowed upon David. If your parents/ grandparents were prayerful they would have dealt with foundation problems on your behalf. You can't compare the youth of Oyakhilome (parents were pastors) to that of Idahosa whose parents were former idol worshippers.

2. He decided to separate himself from his youth. He didn't waste his time following trends. This part can be quite difficult but it has immense benefits. Once separation occurs, you become a vessel useful for the master. If you mix light and darkness together, or you keep wasting time, suffering intensifies because the powers of darkness know who has the oil on their head even when the person doesn't know.

When Dis Starts, D Prophet Would Know It Is 4rm God, Cuz God Would Make Him Know.
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by ichuka(m): 7:22pm On Nov 12, 2020
Truvel:
D Prophetic Ministry Is Different 4rm D Prophetic Office Even Though Dey May Av Similarity. D Prophetic Office ( Leadership Gift) Is A Higher Calling Included In D Fivefold Ministry According To D Book Of Eph4:11. Take Note D Word Office There Means Position Or Leadership Position.
dude call it whatever you want office/ministry
that doesn't change the fact on ground. that a true prophet of God has no secular office. his ministry/office is who hes. you aren't schooled to become a prophet of God a normal Christian,a pastor or an evangelist can prophesy that doesn't make them a prophet of God.
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by Airlove: 8:32pm On Nov 12, 2020
Truvel:
A Person In The Prophetic Office Flows In Higher Realm Of Prophecy, Authority & Power More Dat Doze Who Just Av D Gift Of Prophecy. However, Some In Prophets, Dey Not Yet Start Being Used In D Gifts Until Dey Are Done With Their Prophetic Preparation & Training B4 God Would Entrust Dem With Is Anointing, Authority & Power. D Road To Dis Level Is Not An Easy Road. It's Real Tough. Dey Would Pass Tru D Fiery Furnace (dey Would experience hell On Earth).

They is no escaping to this training coz those God will use diligently he must prepare for what lies ahead. The fullness of the prophets office is not in multitudes of words (higher realm of proohecy)but in demonstration of spirit and power. A prophet can be called to prophesy and divinely reveal a single mystery of Gods word and that will be all till the end of the ministry. Some reveal the truth of justification, sanctification, faith, love etc to bring to knowledge and perfection for the saints. It is more than giving individual prophesy to people (One can prophesy to 50 people per second it does not make that person a prophet but a prophet in His office can prophesy once in 6 month and that is a true prophet. It is not in multitude of words and it does not mean the prophet is not flowing in the fullness of the prophetic ). Anyone can prophesy to people even witches and wizards but the prophetic office is for the saints of God.

The prophetic office is anchored on Revelation 10v7 : in the days of the voice of the 7th angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of GOD Shall be finished as He has revealed to His servants the prophet

Also, the testimony of Jesus Christ is the spirit of prophecy. Anything outside this should be critically looked into as confirmed by the Apostle paul, if any man or even an angel preaches any other gospel outside jesus christ death and resurrection , let them be accursed
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by Airlove: 8:33pm On Nov 12, 2020
Truvel:
A Person In The Prophetic Office Flows In Higher Realm Of Prophecy, Authority & Power More Dat Doze Who Just Av D Gift Of Prophecy. However, Some In Prophets, Dey Not Yet Start Being Used In D Gifts Until Dey Are Done With Their Prophetic Preparation & Training B4 God Would Entrust Dem With Is Anointing, Authority & Power. D Road To Dis Level Is Not An Easy Road. It's Real Tough. Dey Would Pass Tru D Fiery Furnace (dey Would experience hell On Earth).


They is no escaping to this training coz those God will use diligently he must prepare for what lies ahead. The fullness of the prophets office is not in multitudes of words (higher realm of proohecy)but in demonstration of spirit and power. A prophet can be called to prophesy and divinely reveal a single mystery of Gods word and that will be all till the end of the ministry. Some reveal the truth of justification, sanctification, faith, love etc to bring to knowledge and perfection for the saints. It is more than giving individual prophesy to people (One can prophesy to 50 people per second it does not make that person a prophet but a prophet in His office can prophesy once in 6 month and that is a true prophet. It is not in multitude of words and it does not mean the prophet is not flowing in the fullness of the prophetic ). Anyone can prophesy to people even witches and wizards but the prophetic office is for the saints of God.

The prophetic office is anchored on Revelation 10v7 : in the days of the voice of the 7th angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of GOD Shall be finished as He has revealed to His servants the prophet

Also, the testimony of Jesus Christ is the spirit of prophecy. Anything outside this should be critically looked into as confirmed by the Apostle paul, if any man or even an angel preaches any other gospel outside jesus christ death and resurrection , let them be accursed
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by Nobody: 9:21pm On Nov 12, 2020
Missyajoke:
I don't know what to say to you again.
It's Something Only Doze Called To It Would Understand.
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by generationz(f): 8:05am On Nov 13, 2020
lekki1444:
Yes gods with small g but only one God with capital G wink

I'm glad you acknowledged this.
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by Nobody: 1:21pm On Nov 13, 2020
If U Are Passing Tru Serious Difficulty Or Suffering & It Seems Dat U Always See Army Men In Ur Dreams, It's Likely Dat U Are In D Fiery Furnace. U Are In A Prophetic Preparation.
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by BlueAngel444: 4:00pm On Nov 13, 2020
Missyajoke:


My dad is a prophet so I know a not about the prophetic ministry.
your daddy is a prophet cheesy
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by BlueAngel444: 4:03pm On Nov 13, 2020
Kobojunkie:
What experience? The old covenant prophets were Israelites and the Old covenant description of Prophets applied only to them.

In the New Covenant, Jesus Christ called all to be servants of God, every single one on His Kingdom.
was it not recorded Jesus speaking about prophets to be sent
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by BlueAngel444: 4:04pm On Nov 13, 2020
Kobojunkie:
I know you like to attach the title "prophet" to just about anyone who you want to, but Job was not a prophet of God. He was a mesopotamian, and no, He was not attached to the Old Covenant -- only those who were descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob were, and to them, God called out prophets from amongst them. And no, Job did not prophesy about the messiah.
Who told you a prophet must come from a particular tribe, people or race, or where did you read that from
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by BlueAngel444: 4:07pm On Nov 13, 2020
donnie:


Please stop that old and new covenant nonsnese. It's the same covenant YAH made with Abraham which we the bloodline children of Israel are direct beneficiaries.

It was wrongly translated NEW covenant. The correct rendering in the Hebrew and Greek is RENEWED.

Prophet means preacher. Any one can share a message. But not everyone is called to be a preacher. Christianity has turned truth on its head.

great insight but a prophet doesn't necessary mean a preacher
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by BlueAngel444: 4:10pm On Nov 13, 2020
Kobojunkie:
I know your latest delusion is that you are a descendant of Abraham but I don't share that delusion with you.

I am a gentile and for us the only covenant that applies is the new Covenant wherein Jesus Christ caused the curtains separating the holy of holes from the people so we no longer have to go through middle-men to reach Him, neither does He.

Prophets are of the Old Covenant. Everyone in the New Covenant is a preacher, sent to preach/teach only that which Jesus Christ has taught all of His followers. Jesus Christ our only Teacher/Master and we all His Servants, doing the Will of the master is the reason for our very existence.
Not everyone is a preacher

Jesus did not teach all his followers

Prophets were in the congregation of the believers in acts
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by BlueAngel444: 4:12pm On Nov 13, 2020
ichuka:

Hi bro
you are right in most of what you wrote,but,Prophetic Ministry has nothing to do with an office. its not an office one walks in and out whenever he/she pleases but "its who you are" its either you are born into it or not.you can't fast n pray to become a prophet tommorow not possible.
within the five fold ministry I believe the prophet is the hardest in our time.most of what we see and hear today that calls themselves prophets are clowns.
to become a prophet the Word of God you receive must become your flesh.which isn't a child's play.
a good example is the life of Moses in the Bible.most
true prophets in Nigeria are even scared of there call.
you and truvel are right so far, in a way grin
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by BlueAngel444: 4:15pm On Nov 13, 2020
Kobojunkie:
That is exactly what God did when He sent Jesus Christ, the very word out of His mouth, as the New Covenant between God and man. Those who are followers of Jesus Christ are all imbued with the Spirit of God at the time of rebirth and God Himself speaks from and through them to all that will listen.

The time of the Old Covenant prophets remains (since the Old Covenant is an everlasting covenant) remaining valid to this day and forevermore. But those of the New Covenant, who have the Spirit of God living inside of them are like the prophets of old, only we are ALL OF US servants of God, and have only one Teacher, Jesus Christ, the Head over all of us.
Having the spirit of God and being a prophet are not one and the same thing.

Let those who have ear hear o
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by BlueAngel444: 4:19pm On Nov 13, 2020
Nuttella:
I understand that being a prophet is not an easy road but I think you are exaggerating the suffering we will suffer. God is there to protect his prophets, we didnt choose to be one, he called us for a purpose, even though the training process can be painful, but we will prevail at the end.
We shocked Wii
Are u saying u are a prophetess cheesy
Re: What Many Don't Know Abt The Office Of A Prophet. by BlueAngel444: 4:21pm On Nov 13, 2020
Truvel:
U May Start Experience Troubles Everywhere, Even Within Ur Family Circle. Things Would Start Going Bad 4 U Of Which U Don't Understand Or Unable To Explain. Doze Who Loves U Would Just To Ur Enemy Etc.
Aya is this what u experience cry

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