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Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by Reference(m): 4:00pm On Oct 31, 2022
omonnakoda:
]The NPA has the power to approve ports in Nigeria and with this power they demand a share of the port. even though the FG did not contribute one naira
Lagos State government also gets a share because they provided the land

The money to build the port was provided 100% by the investor

NPA has approved ports in Akwa Ibom and Delta state so what is happening in those places why can't they find investors?

It really is a shame that Amaechi and Goodluck Jonathan did nothing for the Niger Delta is this aspect or infrastructure

Correct to a certain extent.
Government equity in PPP's are almost always in kind and not cash. Usually by ways and means.
Having said that the reason is obvious why it is harder to find investors for ports in other parts of the country and it boils down to economics and economics 101 and all the advantages Lagos has, markets, capital, etc.

For other port cities to be developed the Federal Government has to be deliberate in increasing its equity and probably placing serious incentives on the table to attract the private sector. To compare the ability of Akwa Ibom and Delta to attract foreign investment of equal value as that of Lagos is like putting Usain Bolt at the 30 metre mark and expecting me top catch him at the finish line. Totally unfair.

The Nigerian economy has not exactly been in a boom for decades making 'blind dates' irresistible. The Lekki port operators have their eye on one thing, feeding off the woes of Apapa just down the coast. If Apapa was doing fine there will be no Lekki Deep Sea.

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Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by Gkay1(m): 4:01pm On Oct 31, 2022
omonnakoda:
Rather than quoting without a source tell us the point you are making .
I note you are referencing somthing from 2013 under Jonathan

The reality is that this port

Was delivered by Private money

Neither Lagos State nor the Federal government put in one Naira

Yes GEJ's government made a lot of NOISE about infrastructure like a port at Ibaka, 2nd Niger Bridge Port at Lekki etc none of which m100aterialized

The arrangement here is that Tolaram funded the Port 100%
I agreed

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Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by Raregems247: 4:01pm On Oct 31, 2022
This is huge.

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Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by georgeakins: 4:03pm On Oct 31, 2022
Brendaniel:
The truth is when you put National interest first, this port was not necessary for Lagos state as at now, Lagos is very tight and congested causing a lot of pain and hardship on commuters with accidents of containers falling of trailers, this port would have been better utilised in other regions of the country in dire need of working ports to reduce the menace In Lagos and also open other regions to easy import and export.


Go to your backward region and set up a similar project. You only need an approval from FG.

Are Ibos not ashamed of wailing and crying?

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Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by omonnakoda: 4:03pm On Oct 31, 2022
Brendaniel:


The truth is the FG should have intervened in some of these issues and not wait for the state government since the FG will still be in charge of the ports at the end of the day through customs and NPA, the citizens will still be the ones to benefit regardless of the state, my main point is for the government to make life easier for all Nigerians...
Intervened in what way? Please clarify?

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Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by Bigchristo: 4:04pm On Oct 31, 2022
TakeNigeriaBack:


Don't forget to include the billions stolen by Diezani under PDP.
so you and who is willing to vote for PDP? God forbid BAT and ATiku tufiakwa
Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by kolasoft: 4:05pm On Oct 31, 2022
God bless Lagos state God bless Nigeria

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Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by Thomasankara(m): 4:05pm On Oct 31, 2022
[/color] is this project federally initiated? [color=#770077]
Brendaniel:
The truth is when you put National interest first, this port was not necessary for Lagos state as at now, Lagos is very tight and congested causing a lot of pain and hardship on commuters with accidents of containers falling of trailers, this port would have been better utilised in other regions of the country in dire need of working ports to reduce the menace In Lagos and also open other regions to easy import and export.

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Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by ElSudani: 4:06pm On Oct 31, 2022
yommen:


APC claimed they built infrastructure but they cannot claim they didn't make the people poorer. APC brought us hunger!!! Get the message! A bag of rice is now 45k. It was 7k when they came on board. They have made our lives worse. They really mismanaged our economy.

There's inflation all over the world, not just Nigeria. Nigeria is not an island, whatever affects the whole world is bound to affect Nigeria as well.

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Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by tamdun: 4:07pm On Oct 31, 2022
Brendaniel:
The truth is when you put National interest first, this port was not necessary for Lagos state as at now, Lagos is very tight and congested causing a lot of pain and hardship on commuters with accidents of containers falling of trailers, this port would have been better utilised in other regions of the country in dire need of working ports to reduce the menace In Lagos and also open other regions to easy import and export.
This is a Lagos project and has nothing to do with national whatever except u want Lasg to abandoned Lagos and build port in another state, any state can build port, even elrufai without sea built one(dry port), better talk to ur state govt and stop hating.

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Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by OnlyJust: 4:09pm On Oct 31, 2022
ryloy:
grin

God Bless Incoming President Bola Tinubu
The Builder of Lagos

A new Nigeria with Tinubu, so the one his friend and party man, Buhari has built the last 7 years+ is what? Not a new Nigeria?
Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by abokikhalifa: 4:11pm On Oct 31, 2022
Sasi54:
I swear the love that I am having for this country is increasing everyday, Nigeria must be great

Doller is now 812 o. This is just 2022.
Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by omonnakoda: 4:11pm On Oct 31, 2022
Reference:


Correct to a certain extent.
Government equity in PPP's are almost always in kind and not cash. Usually by ways and means.
Having said that the reason is obvious why it is harder to find investors for ports in other parts of the country and it boils down to economics and economics 101 and all the advantages Lagos has, markets, capital, etc.

For other port cities to be developed the Federal Government has to be deliberate in increasing its equity and probably placing serious incentives on the table to attract the private sector. To compare the ability of Akwa Ibom and Delta to attract foreign investment of equal value as that of Lagos is like putting Usain Bolt at the 30 metre mark and expecting me top catch him at the finish line. Totally unfair.

The Nigerian economy has not exactly been in a boom for decades making 'blind dates' irresistible. The Lekki port operators have their eye on one thing, feeding off the woes of Apapa just down the coast. If Apapa was doing fine there will be no Lekki Deep Sea.
Maybe I have a different understanding of WAYS and MEANS/ You are not communicating. What do you mean by that?

Business is not sentiment

The FG has no money for infrastructure. Maybe it did under GEJ when oil prices were high. Did he build any port or major infrastructure in the South of the country?
The fundamental problem with Apapa and Tin Can are the road infrastructure . If there was a rail link to an inland dry dock there would be no issues but for years the FG milked the port without reinvesting to ensure sustainability rather all the money was taken to Abuja and shared. Imagine a situation where Dangote now had to build the expressway

What is needed is rail lines to evacuate the port not roads

By the way the Longest coastline and best place for a port in Nigeria is Ondo state but that has not been developed because of animosity for the SW. It is central and more logical to have a rail link from there to the North than Lagos Ibadan but Lagos has first mover advantage

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Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by Benwallt(m): 4:13pm On Oct 31, 2022
Brendaniel:
The truth is when you put National interest first, this port was not necessary for Lagos state as at now, Lagos is very tight and congested causing a lot of pain and hardship on commuters with accidents of containers falling of trailers, this port would have been better utilised in other regions of the country in dire need of working ports to reduce the menace In Lagos and also open other regions to easy import and export.
what are you saying? Lagos should go and build ports in another state? It is Lagos state project not federal government

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Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by abokikhalifa: 4:14pm On Oct 31, 2022
Brendaniel:
The truth is when you put National interest first, this port was not necessary for Lagos state as at now, Lagos is very tight and congested causing a lot of pain and hardship on commuters with accidents of containers falling of trailers, this port would have been better utilised in other regions of the country in dire need of working ports to reduce the menace In Lagos and also open other regions to easy import and export.

No doubt. But what is stopping your governors from developing sea ports

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Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by bizzibodi(m): 4:14pm On Oct 31, 2022
$1.5bn for just sandfilling that space,dredging the waterfront,do shore protection,tarring that land area,put some cranes for loading and unloading with some building cost this outrageous amount?why do we like over inflating contract in this country?am sure is foreign contractors can't indigenous engineers dredge,do shore protection,build a tarmac?no wonder $$$$$ is rising out of control.
This will only make sense if the port is use for exporting finish products rather than importing.
Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by tsdarkside(m): 4:14pm On Oct 31, 2022
its already finish....??

that was fast....
Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by Fiscus105(m): 4:15pm On Oct 31, 2022
Brendaniel:
The truth is when you put National interest first, this port was not necessary for Lagos state as at now, Lagos is very tight and congested causing a lot of pain and hardship on commuters with accidents of containers falling of trailers, this port would have been better utilised in other regions of the country in dire need of working ports to reduce the menace In Lagos and also open other regions to easy import and export.


So Lagos will use her Money to build port for other states?

U guys should endeavor to reason before u comment pls. Yet foolish people like ur comment.

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Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by Memyselfu2009(m): 4:16pm On Oct 31, 2022
Good plan but wrong location lagos is very congested open the East and middle belt.
Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by Brendaniel: 4:16pm On Oct 31, 2022
omonnakoda:
Intervened in what way? Please clarify?

There have been complains of business men in other regions about accessibility to import and export because there are no proper functioning ports in other regions, imagine someone in sokoto will have to transport his goods all the way to Lagos just to export and then same with import, if there were closer ports at least not in sokoto but before Lagos at least it will reduce the burden for such and also reduce congestion in Lagos and make businesses and goods cheaper, the FG just like they built railway should have done this a long time ago without waiting for any state government, this is for the benefit of everyone, job creation and so on.
Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by Wize1: 4:16pm On Oct 31, 2022
Brendaniel:


The truth is the FG should have intervened in some of these issues and not wait for the state government since the FG will still be in charge of the ports at the end of the day through customs and NPA, the citizens will still be the ones to benefit regardless of the state, my main point is for the government to make life easier for all Nigerians...

Excuses, excuses and excuse is all you are giving. Some of you just regurgitate propaganda like robots without any form of critical thinking, and wish it to be true. So let’s even go to with your thinking and assume the stalling of the Akwa Ibom and Delta ports (that have since been concessioned with no single progress) is the fault or the FG, how is the completion of the one in Lagos a problem? Isn’t it to serve Nigerians from all tribes still? Or would you rather the stakeholders abandon it like those of Delta, Akwa Ibom? Just so to appease your sense or envy? You guys should stop this crab in the barrel mentality just because of hatred driven by political sentiments. Elections will come and go, but these infrastructure will power more businesses. It’s not every thread you should be commenting on and spewing pain and hate. It’s okay to overlook some at the risk of sounding really imbecilic.

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Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by tsdarkside(m): 4:16pm On Oct 31, 2022
bizzibodi:
$1.5bn for just sandfilling that space,dredging the waterfront,do shore protection,tarring that land area,put some cranes for loading and unloading with some building cost this outrageous amount? why do we like over inflating contract in this country?am sure is foreign contractors can't indigenous engineers dredge,do shore protection,build a tarmac?no wonder $$$$$ is rising out of control.

nobody understands how it always happens.... undecided undecided
Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by GamalNasser: 4:16pm On Oct 31, 2022
1.5 billion was spent in that Axis ? grin
Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by Reference(m): 4:18pm On Oct 31, 2022
viodemus:
Nice project.

In a productive country like china or most of asia, this is a $200 million project max, with various operating installations included, in america, depending on speed, this $250 million to $300 million; in Europe, this is a $400 to $450 million project. For us, without the equipment and the expertise, this is suppose to be $750 to $800 million max. And that is still too much.

If we keep on like this, we won't build many projects like we are supposed to. it is good we are building, even if it's one, but let us not let aprico, excess greed, and lack of expertise limit us or restrict us.

Nigeria is a very expensive place to do stuff and the simple reason for this is that we are an 'industrialization' desert.
The things that make those projects cheaper in those places are all related to local content. Those countries make or manufacture a lot of the things that go into production, construction or installation.

Here, I think all we produce in such volumes that is relevant to engineering projects is cement. That's all. That is why Dangote despite having a plethora of factories is 'sweating' to get his petro-complex finished, the bulk material used for the works is steel, not cement so he has to pay premium to get it done.

It remains strategically naive to ignore the metals and metallurgical industry if a nation wants to develop in a competitive manner. Even countries without the raw materials needed to produce stuff master their steel industries before venturing and diverting into more complex production plants. The railways, refineries, industrial plants, power stations, etc are all heavily reliant on metals.

This fact is lost on Nigeria with the moribund, serially bungled Ajaokuta unending nightmare. The poster child for all that is holding us back as an underdeveloped, third world country. Sometimes it feels like a some sick, dark cloud of voodoo is hanging over that place.

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Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by Brendaniel: 4:21pm On Oct 31, 2022
Wize1:


Excuses, excuses and excuse is all you are giving. Some of you just regurgitate propaganda like robots without any form of critical thinking, and wish it to be true. So let’s even go to with your thinking and assume the stalling of the Akwa Ibom and Delta ports (that have since been concessioned with no single progress) is the fault or the FG, how is the completion of the one in Lagos a problem? Isn’t it to serve Nigerians from all tribes still? Or would you rather the stakeholders abandon it like those of Delta, Akwa Ibom? Just so to appease your sense or envy? You guys should stop this crab in the barrel mentality just because of hatred driven by political sentiments. Elections will come and go, but these infrastructure will power more businesses. It’s not every thread you should be commenting on and spewing pain and hate. It’s okay to overlook some at the risk of sounding really imbecilic.

You can make your points without insulting, the truth is the FG is playing the ostrich with those ports in other regions, if they wanted them working they would have done it a long time ago....
Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by Bhol28: 4:24pm On Oct 31, 2022
seguno2:


Was Rome built by uneducated almajiris, area boys and agbero thugs
Your reaction proves that you are not better than all these people you mentioned.You have more barbaric attitude and some of them are better than u

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Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by Brendaniel: 4:24pm On Oct 31, 2022
Fiscus105:



So Lagos will use is Money to build port for other states?

U guys should endeavor to reason before u comment pls. Yet foolish people like ur comment.

I never said Lagos should build for others, I only said it is not necessary for an additional port in Lagos. The FG should try and ensure other ports are functioning to decongest Lagos. .
Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by Brendaniel: 4:26pm On Oct 31, 2022
abokikhalifa:


No doubt. But what is stopping your governors from developing sea ports

Very important point, that's where the FG is supposed to intervene and not wait for the governors, it is for the benefit of everyone in the end....
Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by zionstaar75: 4:26pm On Oct 31, 2022
Brendaniel:
The truth is when you put National interest first, this port was not necessary for Lagos state as at now, Lagos is very tight and congested causing a lot of pain and hardship on commuters with accidents of containers falling of trailers, this port would have been better utilised in other regions of the country in dire need of working ports to reduce the menace In Lagos and also open other regions to easy import and export.
are u literate at all ?is it federal government that brought the project to lagos ?any state govt can do this,sanwo olu has applied for another airport approval,when it's completed start wailing again

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Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by Timmi: 4:27pm On Oct 31, 2022
Brendaniel:
The truth is when you put National interest first, this port was not necessary for Lagos state as at now, Lagos is very tight and congested causing a lot of pain and hardship on commuters with accidents of containers falling of trailers, this port would have been better utilised in other regions of the country in dire need of working ports to reduce the menace In Lagos and also open other regions to easy import and export.

Simpleton - Simple minded people with no foresight. But it’s your personal opinion and every dick, Harry and Brendaniel is entitled to.

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Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by omonnakoda: 4:28pm On Oct 31, 2022
Brendaniel:


There have been complains of business men in other regions about accessibility to import and export because there are no proper functioning ports in other regions, imagine someone in sokoto will have to transport his goods all the way to Lagos just to export and then same with import, if there were closer ports at least not in sokoto but before Lagos at least it will reduce the burden for such and also reduce congestion in Lagos and make businesses and goods cheaper, the FG just like they built railway should have done this a long time ago without waiting for any state government, this is for the benefit of everyone, job creation and so on.

You keep parroting congestion in Lagos without logic
Congestion if it exists is about inefficiency
There are countries with ports 10 X busier than Lagos and the Port cities have less than 100000 people. There are landlocked countries with more efficient importation infrastructure
So it is not about having ports everywhere

The reality is which FG should have built port in other regions
Buhari
Jonathan
Obasanjo
or Abacha

and with which money?

Tell us which FG project should have been scrapped instead just one please?

Maybe if you say they should not have built Abuja I might agree

The reality is the FG has not had that kind of money for a long time

Even the Lagos Port they just milk without putting anything into Lagos since 1991 allowing the infrastructure to decay

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Re: Contractors Hand Over $1.5bn Lekki Port After Completion by Brendaniel: 4:28pm On Oct 31, 2022
Benwallt:
what are you saying? Lagos should go and build ports in another state? It is Lagos state project not federal government

I'm not blaming the state, but only pointing out the necessity with Lagos and Nigeria as a whole, it's the federal government I'm blaming for not helping other regions to reduce the burden on citizens...

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