bigfrancis21:

No, I mean the wawa people of Enugu state. You haven't heard of the wawa people before? They were called 'wawa' because they are known to say 'wa' for 'no', rather than 'mba'.
Ask anybody you know from Enugu state.

In that case Oratta people should be called "olo olo" people since they use "olo" for "no" instead of "mba".

PAGAN 9JA:



who are you to dictate what I advocate or not?

its not crazy go mind your own business. the Igbo were never dynamic/changing. it is onlly in the last 100 yrs of colonization tht you changed because of inferiority complex. no. Most Igbos were semi-clad. are you bulshitting and telling me that what those ladies wore in those 4 pics are authentic Igbo? go to hell!
I have repeated before, this is an Igbo thread and Im discussing Igbos here. I already opened a thread on authentic Hausa if you check my past archives.

Another seething nairaland tribalist.
Don't worry, all your hullabaloo doesn't step an inch beyond nairaland.
Your deathful wish to have the Igbo people go around dressing semi-unclad is 1000% impossible and will never come true.

nnenna.1:


I was not responding to what you said but what you certainly implied.

Cultures change and are dynamic. That you see pictures of Igbos wearing certain clothing 100 years ago does not even mean that they wore it in the distant past.

Nor does it mean that they will continue to wear it today.

If you wanted to keep 100% tribal, pagan and real stop using your computer/cellphone to go on Nairaland and argue with me in English.

Throw all that modern material stuff away and go home free.

Live exactly what you preach.

what a idiot! bringing up the same old argument. what has Tribal Culture and Paganism go to do with cellphones or internet. That cellphone and internet you use was made by Pagan Japanese so abeg shut up.

Even the Maths you studied in school was by Pagan scholars like Pythagoras, Euclid,etc.

bigfrancis21:

Another seething nairaland tribalist.
Don't worry, all your hullabaloo doesn't step an inch beyond nairaland.
Your deathful wish to have the Igbo people go around dressing semi-unclad is 1000% impossible and will never come true.

i repeat. go die.

It shall come true. atleast for ceremonial purposes. but it will. you see.

nnenna.1:


I was not responding to what you said but what you certainly implied.

Cultures change and are dynamic. That you see pictures of Igbos wearing certain clothing 100 years ago does not even mean that they wore it in the distant past.

Nor does it mean that they will continue to wear it today.

If you wanted to keep 100% tribal, pagan and real stop using your computer/cellphone to go on Nairaland and argue with me in English.

Throw all that modern material stuff away and go home free.

Live exactly what you preach.

Gbam!
Can you imagine his ludicrous reasoning? In this time and age? Because some isolated ancient swaziand peopes dress uncad, so the Igbo people should also dress unclad? If he wants the Igbo to start dressing unclad as he sorely wants, then let him have his hausa people start dressing half-naked first, then shall we gladly follow suit.

PAGAN 9JA:


i repeat. go die.

It shall come true. atleast for ceremonial purposes. but it will. you see.

The crown of your childish reasoning. You are indeed a kid.

bigfrancis21:

No, I mean the wawa people of Enugu state. You haven't heard of the wawa people before? They were called 'wawa' because they are known to say 'wa' for 'no', rather than 'mba'.
Ask anybody you know from Enugu state.

Wawa is a general term used to describe people from Enugu and not a particular clan. I'm from Enugu btw.

Abagworo:

In that case Oratta people should be called "olo olo" people since they use "olo" for "no" instead of "mba".

Lol. Even the Owerri people too.

PAGAN 9JA:


what a idiot! bringing up the same old argument. what has Tribal Culture and Paganism go to do with cellphones or internet. That cellphone and internet you use was made by Pagan Japanese so abeg shut up.

Even the Maths you studied in school was by Pagan scholars like Pythagoras, Euclid,etc.

Uh....Hausa people in the "days of yore" never used the cell phone or the internet, nor did they speak English.

Much like the Igbos you gleefully point your fingers at, who wear elaborate scarves/damask clothing.

Go back to your roots and be a living example for us.

bigfrancis21:

Gbam!
Can you imagine his ludicrous reasoning? In this time and age? Because some isolated ancient swaziand peopes dress uncad, so the Igbo people should also dress unclad? If he wants the Igbo to start dressing unclad as he sorely wants, then let him have his hausa people start dressing half-naked first, then shall we gladly follow suit.

you slave. going half-clad is not part of our clothes , ept during certain ceremonies like Rawan Gane, etc.

and btw why do you keep considering yourself inferior to us Hausa, hat you mut imitate and do whatever we do.

Is this part of Igbo 'progressive' culture as well? to imitate other people since you consider yourself inferior to whites, Hausa,etc.

bigfrancis21:

The crown of your childish reasoning. You are indeed a kid.

and you are a slave.

nnenna.1:


Uh....Hausa people in the "days of yore" never used the cell phone or the internet, nor did they speak English.

Much like the Igbos you gleefully point your fingers at, who wear elaborate scarves/damask clothing.

Go back to your roots and be a living example for us.

what has cellphone or internet got to do with culture. is it destroying my culture what a dumbarse statement.

those elaborate head scarves are copied from Yorubas, your enemies.

are Igbos always looking for examples? you have no brain? now I see why them colonists shipped you off to those lands.

Afam4eva:
Wawa is a general term used to describe people from Enugu and not a particular clan. I'm from Enugu btw.

True to an extent, yes. The usage has only expanded in recent times. My mom is from Enugu state and she told me this firsthand, so I am a 'nwa agaba' of Enugu state.
Wawa originated as a result of the a particular people of Enugu state (I don't know which group exactly now) who were known to dress naked in ancient times. They were popularly know to say 'wa' for 'no'.
8 years ago, my mom employed a maid from Enugu state and the girl was fond of saying 'wa' for 'no' and my mom sorely hated this and chided her not to use it in the house again.
Interestingly, my mom's people don't use 'wa' but rather 'mba' for no.
However, like you said the term has been expanded to refer to everybody from Enugu state.

bigfrancis21:

True to an extent, yes. The usage has only expanded in recent times. My mom is from Enugu state and she told me this firsthand, so I am a 'nwa agaba' of Enugu state.
Wawa originated as a result of the a particular people of Enugu state (I don't know which group exactly now) who were known to dress naked in ancient times. They were popularly know to say 'wa' for 'no'.
8 years ago, my mom employed a maid from Enugu state and the girl was fond of saying 'wa' for 'no' and my mom sorely hated this and chided her not to use it in the house again.
Apparently, my mom's people don't use 'wa' but rather 'mba' for no.

stop saying ancient times. most of the pics online are from barely 50-60 years back.

there were no cameras in 'ancient' times.

PAGAN 9JA:


you slave. going half-clad is not part of our clothes , ept during certain ceremonies like Rawan Gane, etc.

and btw why do you keep considering yourself inferior to us Hausa, hat you mut imitate and do whatever we do.

Is this part of Igbo 'progressive' culture as well? to imitate other people since you consider yourself inferior to whites, Hausa,etc.

Oh I am sure Hausas were half-clad at one point prior to mixing cultures with others.

Most humans were at various points in their lives.

Why not go back to that very source?



By the way, your post here shows what your true, ulterior, trollish motives are.

nnenna.1:


Oh I am sure Hausas were half-clad at one point prior to mixing cultures with others.

Most humans were at various points in their lives.

Why not go back to that very source?



By the way, your post here shows what your true, ulterior, trollish motives are.

you have no proof. Our clothing is distinctly Chadic Sahelian, including our turbans.

whereas we have proof as to your clothing so it must be saved.

PAGAN 9JA:


what has cellphone or internet got to do with culture. is it destroying my culture what a dumbarse statement.

those elaborate head scarves are copied from Yorubas, your enemies.

are Igbos always looking for examples? you have no brain? now I see why them colonists shipped you off to those lands.

So yoruba women wore elaborate headscarves, damask and sequin in the days of yore, right? LMAO!

Cellphone and internet has a lot to with culture. Please don't be stupid as culture is not restricted to clothing or religion.

Log off the internet now and run into the Savannahs of Hausaland as a free-minded, Africanized pagan.

bigfrancis21:

True to an extent, yes. The usage has only expanded in recent times. My mom is from Enugu state and she told me this firsthand, so I am a 'nwa agaba' of Enugu state.
Wawa originated as a result of the a particular people of Enugu state (I don't know which group exactly now) who were known to dress naked in ancient times. They were popularly know to say 'wa' for 'no'.
8 years ago, my mom employed a maid from Enugu state and the girl was fond of saying 'wa' for 'no' and my mom sorely hated this and chided her not to use it in the house again.
Interestingly, my mom's people don't use 'wa' but rather 'mba' for no.
However, like you said the term has been expanded to refer to everybody from Enugu state.

In Nkanu where i come from, i hear people use "wa" for "no" but i don't know if it's indegenous to Nkanu or a borrowed culture. What part of Enugu is your Mum from?

PAGAN 9JA:


you have no proof. Our clothing is distinctly Chadic Sahelian, including our turbans.

whereas we have proof as to your clothing so it must be saved.

Yah...at this point your trolling is so obvious

nnenna.1:


Oh I am sure Hausas were half-clad at one point prior to mixing cultures with others.

Most humans were at various points in their lives.

Why not go back to that very source?



By the way, your post here shows what your true, ulterior, trollish motives are.

Nnenna, i'd suggest that you stop replying him. He's sitting behind his computer, laughing and utterly enjoying himself at the attention he's receiving. Ignore him. Don't take him seriously. When you meet someone intellectual worth arguing with, you'd know.

I've noticed and read a lot of his posts on nairaland. Sorry to say this, but all of them are inundated with immature empty ramblings with absolutely no mature idea to contribute.

Kails, one afro-jamaican nairalander has said this several times.

nnenna.1:


So yoruba women wore elaborate headscarves, damask and sequin in the days or yore, right? LMAO!

Cellphone and internet has a lot to with culture. Please don't be stupid as culture is not restricted to clothing or religion.

Log off the internet now and run into the Savannahs of Hausaland as a free-minded, Africanized pagan.

please dont be stupid yourself. cellphone and internet are not culture.
culture is defined by identity. cellphone is not identity. neither does it displace a previous cultural trait.

and why is it that you keep diverting or looking to other ethnic groups when we are clearly discussing Igbos here.

you reek with inferiority complex. always looking to others and trying to imitate them like a monkey. you have no brain of yourself it seems.

Afam4eva:
In Nkanu where i come from, i hear people use "wa" for "no" but i don't know if it's indegenous to Nkanu or a borrowed culture. What part of Enugu is your Mum from?

Oji river. Achi to be precise.

bigfrancis21:

Nnenna, i'd suggest that you stop replying him. He's sitting behind his computer, laughing and utterly enjoying himself at the attention he's receiving. Ignore him. Don't take him seriously. When you meet someone intellectual worth arguin with, you'd know.

I've noticed and read a lot of his posts on nairaland. Sorry to say this, but all of them are immature with absolutely no mature idea to contribute.

Kails, one afro-jamaican nairalander has said this several times.

give up dude. give up. you cant argue with me.

bigfrancis21:

Nnenna, i'd suggest that you stop replying him. He's sitting behind his computer, laughing and utterly enjoying himself at the attention he's receiving. Ignore him. Don't take him seriously. When you meet someone intellectual worth arguin with, you'd know.

I've noticed and read a lot of his posts on nairaland. Sorry to say this, but all of them are immature with absolutely no mature idea to contribute.

Kails, one afro-jamaican nairalander has said this several times.

Yeah...you are right. His posts are as trollish as they come.

nnenna.1:


Yeah...you are right. His posts are as trollish as they come.

Never argue with a fool. He'll bring you down to his level and beat you with his experience.

So he's a Hausa troll so much for loving all cultures

Unu a fugo na o gbapugo oso?
O fugo na ndi ozo a chawago ya oku, ya gbapu. Nwa afu bu nno ezigbote chinchi.

PAGAN 9JA:

ok please abeg why cant you go semi-naked like before? that brings out your real beauty. there is no shame in that if its a private organization and is cultural. Even the Zulu/Swazi girls go semi-naked today.

and what happened to those ankle - rings

Why limit it to private organizations if there's something not skeptical about women going barechested in today's world? If Swaziland wants to keep that aspect of their culture, how does that affect Igbo people? Since you've been ranting about remaining in your 'natural, cultural state', Where you even born with clothes? Why do you wear clothes now? Man's natural state is in the nude. I hope you're not wearing clothes while you are typing this.
And no, today's Igbo women would not provide entertainment for wankers, rapist, and pervs to feast their eyes on, ok. The world is now a global village, you dunno who might be wanking over those Zulu women.

stillwater:

Why limit it to private organizations if there's something not skeptical about women going barechested in today's world? If Swaziland wants to keep that aspect of their culture, how does that affect Igbo people? Since you've been ranting about remaining in your 'natural, cultural state', Where you even born with clothes? Why do you wear clothes now? Man's natural state is in the nude. I hope you're not wearing clothes while you are typing this.
And no, today's Igbo women would not provide entertainment for wankers, rapist, and pervs to feast their eyes on, ok. The world is now a global village, you dunno who might be wanking over those Zulu women.

well then broadcast it. do it in a cultural way. There is a way of doing things. THose women are not completely unclad. Infact when I see those pictures , i feel respect not attraction.

you must be really sick in the head to entertain such feelings towards these graceful tribal women.

Afam4eva:
In Nkanu where i come from, i hear people use "wa" for "no" but i don't know if it's indegenous to Nkanu or a borrowed culture. What part of Enugu is your Mum from?

do you by any chance know of any "Ngene" family from obuofia or something? i miss a certain obialamma.

PAGAN 9JA:


give up dude. give up. you cant argue with me.

you are right!!! no one can.... or should! you are one of those guys that drag people down to your level and then beat them with experience

bigfrancis21:

No, I mean the wawa people of Enugu state. You haven't heard of the wawa people before? They were called 'wawa' because they are known to say 'wa' for 'no', rather than 'mba'.
Ask anybody you know from Enugu state.

Bro, you are right about the wawa name but that's not the real name.
It's just like the way we Agbaja/Wawa call Anambra peeps Agbaenu (nsukka will call them agbaelu). Does that that make agbaenu their name?
The igbo group you know as wawa are the AGBAJA people! That's our name.
Ask any elder from your place.