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Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by maclatunji: 9:22am On Sep 16, 2011
I asked for this interview with Toba for my blog http://www.coolstuff49ja.blogspot.com and he duly obliged. I hope you enjoy it as much as I have.

Me: Can you introduce yourself to us?
Toba: My name is Toba as called by friends and family. A young, dedicated and enterprising Nigerian, who loves to strive for the best in all things I do or get myself involved in.

Me: Please give us a brief insight into your background?
Toba: I was born in Lagos Nigeria, in the late 70s/80s to a Christian family. I attended primary school in Lagos and Ibadan, whilst secondary school was in Lagos. A very strong Christian right from childhood and had been in the church choir from a very tender age.

Me: We both met on Nairaland.com and you once told me there that you attended mosques and even fasted in the Muslim Holy month of Ramadan for some time. How did that happen?
Toba: Yes, you are very correct, sometime between 1994 and 1996, I was with an aunt married to a Muslim and the very close neighbour we had in the opposite flat was a Muslims with an extended family. I and my sibling were very close to this family, we spent time together often and then they would tell us things about Islam. Honestly, this family are a good example of tolerance in Islam with the way we were received and loved. My aunt’s husband who is also a Muslim did tell us about Islam. Hence, we chose to be part of it, whilst still attending our regular church services. We got orientated a bit about Islam, I was taught how to recite fatia (Suratul Fatiha), performing ablution, I used to wake up early during Ramadan and also got to mosque in the evening sometimes to pray.

Me: That is very interesting; can you tell us about your academic life and the job you do currently?
Toba: Yeah! After my secondary school,I wrote JAMB(UME/PCE). After a couple of years, I got admission to study Industrial Relations and Personnel Management as well as Estate Management, both courses of which I had little idea of some 10 t0 13 years ago. I thought of being an accountant, but either my JAMB cut-off mark or something else prevented me from having my way. I eventually picked Estate Management hoping to cross over to accounting after my first year provided I had at least a 2.2 Graded Points Average (GPA). After my first year, I fell in love with Estate Management and then decided to see it through. After my graduation, I prayed and hoped to serve within southwestern state in Nigeria. I got my NYSC call-up letter that year in February and in March I met someone who is an official at NYSC.

The person confirmed to me that our NYSC posting was already done and I should accept my fate as regards wherever I was posted to. I got my Posting Letter in April that year and behold, i was posted to YOBE State. I felt bad to be candid but took up courage. After the three weeks orientation, I found myself back in Lagos. I told the NYSC official I had a place to serve in mind. I was allowed to. I served there (as in here). After my service, my boss said he wouldn’t allow me to go that I have to work here on permanent basis. We agreed terms. Behold, here I am now doing well in Real Estate practice in Nigeria in one of the best firms in country.

Me: Are you married?
Toba: No

Me: Why not?
Toba: Seriously, sometimes I ask myself the same question. To be candid, maybe I haven’t found the person I feel I like/love. The person that has the wife characteristics in her.

Me: What characteristics are you looking for?
Toba: If I should list them all, it may take the whole space. Let me just summarise them as God-fearing, respectful, well-mannered and cultured, intelligent, educated, fluent in English, kindhearted, friendly, reserved, gentle, someone that would be satisfied with what she has, non-promiscuous and must also be pretty.

Me: You have created some sensation with your interest in Muslim girls on Nairaland.com, why is that so?
Toba: Its true, I have been on Nairaland for quite a while since 2006 and I have studied people’s characters online. I wouldn’t want to talk too much but I think the Muslim ladies on Nairaland are more cultured and reserved. Well it’s online character and maybe different from what’s obtainable in reality though. For now, I think the Muslims are cool

Me: Are there any that have really caught your fancy over time?
Toba: Do you mean on Nairaland?

Me: Yes
Toba: Of course, more than three. There is even one I like so much amongst them. She has really impressed me with everything pertaining to her character online. I wouldn’t even mind giving up anything for her.

Me: What is her Nairaland user name?
Toba: Am I protected if I mention it here?

Me: Do you mean you don't want it published?
Toba: Not really, I am just concerned about how others would feel hearing me picking one ahead of them (lol).

Me: Fair enough, I will not publish if you say I shouldn't

Me: Is it safe to say that you don't mind marrying a practising Muslim?
Toba: Yes, provided we agree on mutual terms

Me: What would be your terms under such an arrangement?
Toba: Mutual respect for each other’s belief

Me: What about the faith that your children would have?
Toba: That’s a JAMB question. Is it right for me to say, they (children) would decide when they grow up?

Me: Don't you think Christian girls may feel you are not serious about your religion?
Toba: Well I don’t care whatever anyone says. I have read my bible from Genesis to revelation more than 3 times and I know what God demands from me in order to make heaven. Once I do that, I wouldn’t be bothered by side talks.

Me: Do you think your family would welcome a Muslim wife for you?
Toba: It’s going to be 50/50, but if she is able to convince them especially my mum with good character, I guess she is going to have their support 100%. The fear of every family is how to get their ward a good companion that both would last till death.

Me: Do you think your type of thinking should be more of the norm in Nigeria or should differences in religion be considered above other things so that one can avoid conflict in the future?
Toba: I still think we are entitled to our respective opinions BUT those of that claim to be theists should be tolerant with each other and learn to inter-marry. Come to think of it, is God wrong to have created us separately in the same world? If the answer is No, then we should live as one and unite in all things if possible.

Me: Is there any other thing you would like to tell our readers?
Toba: I am a Christian and a strong believer in God, holiness and mutual respect. We should put God first in all things, learn to love and tolerate each other and we should always do things as if we would die tomorrow and then face God to give account of all our actions in thoughts and in words

Me: Thank you for talking to me. It has been a great pleasure and you have been a great sport.
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by zayhal(f): 11:54am On Sep 16, 2011
interesting!
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by maclatunji: 11:56am On Sep 16, 2011
Which part?
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by Sweetnecta: 12:13pm On Sep 16, 2011
Has Toba thought of if both he and his Muslim wife [if there is any], were to to both be admitted into God's Mercy, that their places will be different? Muslim wife will end up in Jannah.

Toba will end up in heaven [whatever that means].

People of Jannah will not mix with anyone except people of Jannah. Read Surah Araf [The Height].


If you truly needs a Muslim wife, you need to first achieve Islamic Success by taking the Shahadah.


For Muslim women, it is not permissible for a disbeliever in Islamic Monotheism to be the husband and indeed the head of household where the nurturer is a Muslima.

My experience is that the risk in such a relationship is almost always greater than the benefit.

My wife is a former Christian. When she accepted Islam, she became a better woman. Then I married her.

If we have disagreement which has underpinning of disaster, she or I will remind the other of Allah. We will have thing, but we will not let it get to that line where Shaytan is now in control.

What does a believing wife tells a disbelieving husband? Fear Allah? He knows not Who Allah is.

What does a disbelieving husband tell a believing wife? Fear Trinity? Who is trinity? Such a belief negates Islam.


And between them is a cross? Or she is praying and he thinks its an unnecessary exercise?


On the other hand, maybe Allah will soften the heart of Toba to Islam and then gain his earthly reward; a muslim wife.

Then his reward by coming to Islam is double, guaranteeing him Jannah.

@Toba; When you finally become Muslim, make dua for me and all muslims around the world immediately, that Allah will give us the biggest Idayah and steadied our hearts firmly on His prescribed Way for mankind.

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Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by toba: 1:31pm On Sep 16, 2011
Sweetnecta:

Has Toba thought of if both he and his Muslim wife [if there is any], were to to both be admitted into God's Mercy, that their places will be different? Muslim wife will end up in Jannah.

Do u care to throw more light about what u mean?

Sweetnecta:

Toba will end up in heaven [whatever that means].
Yes heaven is for those that lives righteously whilst on earth and abide by what the almighty God has decreed.

Sweetnecta:

People of Jannah will not mix with anyone except people of Jannah. Read Surah Araf [The Height].

Oga where or what is jannah?

Sweetnecta:

If you truly needs a Muslim wife, you need to first achieve Islamic Success by taking the Shahadah.
U know im not a 'muslim yet' therefore u have a lot of explanation to do. What is shahadah?

Sweetnecta:

For Muslim women, it is not permissible for a disbeliever in Islamic Monotheism to be the husband and indeed the head of household where the nurturer is a Muslima.

My experience is that the risk in such a relationship is almost always greater than the benefit.

My wife is a former Christian. When she accepted Islam, she became a better woman. Then I married her.

If we have disagreement which has underpinning of disaster, she or I will remind the other of Allah. We will have thing, but we will not let it get to that line where Shaytan is now in control.

What has religion got to do with character? do u know that some atheists behave well more than some theists? Religion doesnt make anyone a better person dont be deceived. Your wife had the tendency of becoming a better woman after marriage and its isnt because shes a muslim or was a former christian. whats the possibility that it wasnt because she was trained to be better in Christianity hence after marriage she chose to exhibit such characters?

sir its maturity that brings about understanding in marriage if u dont know let me tell you. Imagine me marrying some of the inexperienced young pretty muslimas u have here assuming im a muslim. Theres every possibility that we would have differences based on maturity cos of my age difference with some of them that arent ripe yet for marriage. What im simply telling u is that religion has got nothing to do with marriage.

Sweetnecta:

What does a believing wife tells a disbelieving husband? Fear Allah? He knows not Who Allah is.

What does a disbelieving husband tell a believing wife? Fear Trinity? Who is trinity? Such a belief negates Islam.
And between them is a cross? Or she is praying and he thinks its an unnecessary exercise?
There are many things u have chosen deliberately not to understand. How many GODS do we have? Is God the creator of religion? How were the followers of christ described in the Qur'an? Were we described as pagans?


Sweetnecta:

On the other hand, maybe Allah will soften the heart of Toba to Islam and then gain his earthly reward; a muslim wife.

Then his reward by coming to Islam is double, guaranteeing him Jannah.

Sir dont be deceived. Its only those that lives according to God's rules that will make heaven not only christians or muslims. I have surrended all my life to God to guide and guard my path in life. I dont need to struggle about marrying a christian or a muslim. God has the final say on all matters.

Sweetnecta:

@Toba; When you finally become Muslim, make dua for me and all muslims around the world immediately, that Allah will give us the biggest Idayah and steadied our hearts firmly on His prescribed Way for mankind.

Right now i pray for every body even though im a christian and i equally love everyone including Christians and muslims
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by Sweetnecta: 2:52pm On Sep 16, 2011
@Toba: « #4 on: Today at 01:31:04 PM »
[Quote]Do u care to throw more light about what u mean?[/Quote]Jannah is the abode of Islamic believers. InchaAllah.


[Quote]Yes heaven is for those that lives righteously whilst on earth and abide by what the almighty God has decreed.[/Quote]And in heaven you have hell. Jesus, if we look in the Bible said those who abolish the laws and the prophets will be the least in the kingdom of heaven [least in the kingdom of heaven is hell. Unless you wanna tell us where hell is and what the least mean in the Kingdom of heaven, considering that it is the place of those who go against Jesus?].


[Quote]Oga where or what is jannah?[/Quote] Jannah which is Paradise is beyond heavens. I do hope you know that there are 7 heavens?


[Quote]U know im not a 'muslim yet' therefore u have a lot of explanation to do. What is shahadah?[/Quote]It is the declaration of faith in Islam of your taking Allah Alone as your Lord God and that Muhammad is the Messenger [as] of Allah that you follow his pattern. By this daily Salah is made compulsory on you. So are the others; Charities, Fasting, Hajj.


[Quote]What has religion got to do with character?[/Quote]Enough so that she does not or you don't insult her belief, The God worshiped. Can you imagine a gentle soul breaking the plates when she is angry? Can a woman imagine a gentle man punching bag or the wall when he is angry? It does happen. You will tell her to keep her God that you did not believe in the first place, regardless of how much she swear by Him. If a muslim says Wallahi, it is disbelief for another muslim not to accept it from him or her. To a non Muslim, Wallahi is just an expression. It means nothing. Aslk Mazaje.


[Quote] do u know that some atheists behave well more than some theists? Religion doesnt make anyone a better person dont be deceived. Your wife had the tendency of becoming a better woman after marriage and its isnt because shes a muslim or was a former christian. whats the possibility that it wasnt because she was trained to be better in Christianity hence after marriage she chose to exhibit such characters?[/Quote]To the first bold, I am being deceived and I am a living witness of what I wrote. I became better as I understood my role in Islam. And my wife exhibited whatever the goodness she got out of Christianity, now, for the pleasure of Allah The True God.


[Quote]sir its maturity that brings about understanding in marriage if u dont know let me tell you. Imagine me marrying some of the inexperienced young pretty muslimas u have here assuming im a muslim. Theres every possibility that we would have differences based on maturity cos of my age difference with some of them that arent ripe yet for marriage. What im simply telling u is that religion has got nothing to do with marriage.[/Quote]Sure, religion has everything to do with it. Allah's Messenger [as] said that people marry for 4 reasons. The best of them is religion. I do know that my wife and I do fast and cautioned me about my duties, eg "you are fasting". A christian would have not known the essence of my fast enough to remind me of it, and Islam is a reminder/advise.


[Quote]There are many things u have chosen deliberately not to understand. How many GODS do we have?[/Quote]The Christians have I AM or Ellah as God. Then Jesus is God and His son. Then Holy Spirit/Ghost as God. The Muslim has Allah as God and He is not a Splitting, or child bearing or a God with parent[s].


[Quote] Is God the creator of religion?[/Quote]Islam is created or ordained by God on man and completed the process on the last messenger [as].


[Quote] How were the followers of christ described in the Qur'an? Were we described as pagans?[/Quote]You are not described as Muslims. That you must accept. Then in many verses you were mentioned along with the Mushriks [idolaters]. You are called Kafirun, since you are not Muslims.


[Quote]Sir dont be deceived. Its only those that lives according to God's rules that will make heaven not only christians or muslims.[/Quote]While I am sure that I am not deceived, I will ask you what is living according to God's rule? WHere to you find that that will accommodate you and a Muslim, then a Jew, then a hindu, then an obatala worshiper, then, then, then so that all of you can make "heaven"? I love to see your muslim wife accepting that rule book over Quran.


[Quote] I have surrended all my life to God to guide and guard my path in life. I dont need to struggle about marrying a christian or a muslim. God has the final say on all matters.[/Quote]This is where we converge. Omo to ba yowo ni Iya e ngbe. God steers those who wish to be steered aright by Him.


[Quote]Right now i pray for every body even though im a christian and i equally love everyone including Christians and muslims[/Quote]My request should be kept in mind. I have seen many hardcore Christians, including nuns from Cape Verde reverting to Islam.
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by Nobody: 3:40pm On Sep 16, 2011
Hmn, interesting!

Ok before u ask me which part cos I'm quite familiar wv some of his replies, I think its the part he said so far in hs stay here on nl, he thinks the muslim ladies are the most cultured, I really dint think he was serious about this interest in muslim ladies,
Again, I say Interesting! *grins*

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Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by luqken: 3:57pm On Sep 16, 2011
I have a lot of respect for TOBA (his open mindedness)

Christains are the followers of Christ(Jesus).

Muslims believe in Jesus christ(Isa)(a muslim who does not isnt a Muslim) as a Prophet/Messenger just like Noah/Nuh,Abraham/Ibrahim,Moses/Musa,Jacob/Yaqub,John/Yahaya,Aaron/Aarun etc.(MAY THE PEACE AND BLESSING OF GOD BE ON THEM ALL)
There are people that believed in these prophets after they left and because of the love they have for them choosed to worship them which is wrong (what christains and jews are doing currently).
Some of them were given scriptures(psalm/Zabur for David/Dawud,Torat(old testament for Musa/moses,Injeel/Bible for Isa/jesus,Blessed with miracles to convince the people of the truth which they preached

These holy books were tampered with/adulterated after these prophets were gone by the enemies of GOD.

THEN CAME THE LAST OF THESE PROPHETS/MESSENGERS(Prophet Muhammad(PBUH),some of these scriptures attested to his coming (as the last prophet/messenger of GOD/Allah).
Allah sent him as the last messenger (with which no other messenger will come) to finalise all the work of these past messengers(including moses/jesus) and to preach to the entire world,Allah also gave him a scripture(of course the last book) which is the compilation of all past scriptures with the promise to guard and protect the book(AL QUR'AN) against adulteration fate suffered by the previous books.
The last Prophet Muhammad was sent to us all,so we are all suppose to be muslims but of course the enemies of GOD(SATAN AND HIS COHORTS) has promised to divide us by giving some of us fake believes.

Judaism(jews) and Christainity were the last two religions before Muhammad(pbuh) came with the final message so its not suprising that some people still held on to those believes probably because they didnt want to admit to the fact that any other messanger would come after moses and jesus respectively or because satan (shaitan) had penetrated them
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by deols(f): 4:08pm On Sep 16, 2011
bhusayor:

Hmn, interesting!

Ok before u ask me which part cos I'm quite familiar wv some of his replies, I think its the part he said so far in hs stay here on nl, he thinks the muslim ladies are the most cultured, I really dint think he was serious about this interest in muslim ladies,
Again, I say Interesting! *grins*


same here. I found myself blushing throughout!
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by maclatunji: 4:12pm On Sep 16, 2011
deols:

same here. I found myself blushing throughout!

Black people don't blush tongue

I am glad you folks like the interview.
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by deols(f): 4:22pm On Sep 16, 2011
;d ;d
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by maclatunji: 4:28pm On Sep 16, 2011
deols:

;d ;d

You have been avoiding me. I just want to talk. I asked Toba for a talk and I am sure he his happy he agreed. Why doth milady refuse?
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by toba: 4:32pm On Sep 16, 2011
You muslims should compensate me with a good muslima now.

BTW @tunji, the same person i said i can give all for even though we are on different sides of the divide knows herself, yet she still doubts my honest intentions sad cry
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by maclatunji: 4:42pm On Sep 16, 2011
She does! Now, this is getting more complex than I thought. I did not know that she knows.

However, I will be brutally frank here (I am not the neutral journalist at this moment grin). If I were her. I would reject you too. You have to be a Muslim. Even if you became one, I would still consider you a big risk for marriage.

Sorry, but it is the truth!

And let me tell you more. Even the most so-in-love couple with the same religion will have very dire times in their marriage. Not to talk of those that are from the different religions. You seem to love that which will bring you much unhappiness in the future I fear.

N.B: It would be ridiculous to claim to be a Muslim for a woman. You must have the true faith in Allah in your heart. I pray that you will find it; not for a woman's sake but because it is the greatest good I could wish you.
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by deols(f): 5:07pm On Sep 16, 2011
maclatunji:

You have been avoiding me. I just want to talk. I asked Toba for a talk and I am sure he his happy he agreed. Why doth milady refuse?

what do those mean 


toba:

You muslims should compensate me with a good muslima now.


lol

BTW @tunji, the same person i said i can give all for even though we are on different sides of the divide knows herself, yet she still doubts my honest intentions sad cry

and this, and this,*in a funny tone* How i wish I know, for sure! whom this is undecided undecided cheesy cheesy
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by Nobody: 5:12pm On Sep 16, 2011
^^lol, *fingers crossed* awaiting toba's reply,

Good one there @ journalist, wen will I be called for an interview too? Just kidding o!
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by toba: 5:18pm On Sep 16, 2011
Sweetnecta:

@Toba: « #4 on: Today at 01:31:04 PM »Jannah is the abode of Islamic believers. InchaAllah.
Good

Sweetnecta:

And in heaven you have hell. Jesus, if we look in the Bible said those who abolish the laws and the prophets will be the least in the kingdom of heaven [least in the kingdom of heaven is hell. Unless you wanna tell us where hell is and what the least mean in the Kingdom of heaven, considering that it is the place of those who go against Jesus?].
Are u sure u are not actually misinterpreting what Jesus actually meant? Ok im willing to learn. Post the verses relevant here for us to review and interpret same

Sweetnecta:

Jannah which is Paradise is beyond heavens. I do hope you know that there are 7 heavens?

Im not too sure about how true u are by saying Jannah is higher than heaven. im also willing to learn. kindly prove what u are saying here to me

Sweetnecta:

It is the declaration of faith in Islam of your taking Allah Alone as your Lord God and that Muhammad is the Messenger [as] of Allah that you follow his pattern. By this daily Salah is made compulsory on you. So are the others; Charities, Fasting, Hajj.
Im not against what muslims believe in, neither im i saying u are wrong. Pls tell me if anyone fails to do other things u mentioned except believing in God almighty, will that person go to hell fire?

Sweetnecta:

Enough so that she does not or you don't insult her belief, The God worshiped. Can you imagine a gentle soul breaking the plates when she is angry? Can a woman imagine a gentle man punching bag or the wall when he is angry? It does happen. You will tell her to keep her God that you did not believe in the first place, regardless of how much she swear by Him. If a muslim says Wallahi, it is disbelief for another muslim not to accept it from him or her. To a non Muslim, Wallahi is just an expression. It means nothing. Aslk Mazaje.
I have told u that marriage is beyond religion or beliefs. Haven't u seen a christian and a muslim get married, give birth to children without changing their beliefs till death? if u have not, me i have seen plenty. i have them as neighbours and they live happily. I am a theist and i believe the muslima i may also be marrying will also be a theist. Forget differences. its normal, what matters is maturity and the ability to settle quarrels after that.

Sweetnecta:

To the first bold, I am being deceived and I am a living witness of what I wrote. I became better as I understood my role in Islam. And my wife exhibited whatever the goodness she got out of Christianity, now, for the pleasure of Allah The True God.

Take note of the xter in bold. im happy u agree that she got some manners out of christianity. Im confirming to u that its not 100% because she became a muslim that made her become a good wife.Sir it has to do with home training and upbringing for ur wife. Her parent must have told her to be the best wife and not becos of the religion. Havent u seen worst muslim wife that fornicate after marriage? i have seen plenty sir

Sweetnecta:

Sure, religion has everything to do with it. Allah's Messenger [as] said that people marry for 4 reasons. The best of them is religion. I do know that my wife and I do fast and cautioned me about my duties, eg "you are fasting". A christian would have not known the essence of my fast enough to remind me of it, and Islam is a reminder/advise.
that is why we may also differ. Christianity is not a religion but a way of life. If its a religion to someone like me, then i must hate all muslims cos of Alqaeda, Taliban and Boko haram. but no, cos i see outside the box. FYI We must respect our beliefs mutually. If my wife chooses to fast, fine provided she would prepare my own food when im hungry and yet perform her wifely duties at home

Sweetnecta:

The Christians have I AM or Ellah as God. Then Jesus is God and His son. Then Holy Spirit/Ghost as God. The Muslim has Allah as God and He is not a Splitting, or child bearing or a God with parent[s].

I wouldnt want to go over again explaining the concept of trinity to u. Theres just one God creator of heaven and earth and his son Jesus christ was empowered by God as the saviour of man kind by God making him the messiah. Im sure its in the Qur'an that Jesus is the messiah

Sweetnecta:

Islam is created or ordained by God on man and completed the process on the last messenger [as].

No u may be correct to say ordained on muslims, cos u cant tell me that God made a mistake by creating us separately with different beliefs. God created us male female, black white etc. God is very powerful and could have just created one race dont u think? Yet he chose to do it the other way. u are in USA, im in Nigeria, yet God knows about it. Im a xtian, you are muslim, its Gods doing. So dont let us act like God on any thing

Sweetnecta:

You are not described as Muslims. That you must accept. Then in many verses you were mentioned along with the Mushriks [idolaters]. You are called Kafirun, since you are not Muslims.
Thats very wrong. i am a follower of Jesus who is described as the messiah in the quran. I cant possibly be an idolator for believing in a person u muslims call the prophet of God. Pls try again. U cant check for the meaning of idolatry

Sweetnecta:

While I am sure that I am not deceived, I will ask you what is living according to God's rule? WHere to you find that that will accommodate you and a Muslim, then a Jew, then a hindu, then an obatala worshiper, then, then, then so that all of you can make "heaven"? I love to see your muslim wife accepting that rule book over Quran.
I think im very clear with what i have been saying so far. Im a theist and will definitely marry a theist. She could be a xtian or muslim eventually. I can not marry obatala cos they believe in gods even though they believe in GOD. Those that follow Ifa or other deities are not theists. ok?

Sweetnecta:

This is where we converge. Omo to ba yowo ni Iya e ngbe. God steers those who wish to be steered aright by Him.
I wish to be and God has decided to carry me up and God is still carrying me up. cheesy cheesy cheesy smiley smiley wink wink

Sweetnecta:

My request should be kept in mind. I have seen many hardcore Christians, including nuns from Cape Verde reverting to Islam.

So also have i seen Afa and Imam change to a pastor and carry bible. Pastor Tunde Bakare the VP candidate for the 2011 Presidential election in Nigeria was a former Afa, now a christian. Pastor Akewu gba jesu was also a muslim but now a christian. U too will become a pastor in Jesus name . Amen

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Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by maclatunji: 5:20pm On Sep 16, 2011
You have been avoiding me. I just want to talk. I asked Toba for a talk and I am sure he his happy he agreed. Why doth milady [/b]refuse?

[b]Milady
: Is used to address a woman as a mark of respect (it in no way means I own you or that we are romantically attached).

You have been avoiding me: I sent a message requesting a discussion.******Maybe you did not see it****** you have not responded.

Relax, yes I want to talk to you. However, if you unequivocally do not want to do so at any point in time. Send me a private message and state so clearly.

I am not fighting you.  grin

Smile!
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by toba: 5:26pm On Sep 16, 2011
maclatunji:

She does! Now, this is getting more complex than I thought. I did not know that she knows.
I also think she knows her self but i wouldnt mention her here for same reason i told u during the interview session. BTW let me commend u cos u ask question like a professional jonalist. I pray God lift u up to greater heights in ur profession. Amin

maclatunji:

However, I will be brutally frank here (I am not the neutral journalist at this moment grin). If I were her. I would reject you too. You have to be a Muslim. Even if you became one, I would still consider you a big risk for marriage.

Sorry, but it is the truth!

And let me tell you more. Even the most so-in-love couple with the same religion will have very dire times in their marriage. Not to talk of those that are from the different religions. You seem to love that which will bring you much unhappiness in the future I fear.

N.B: It would be ridiculous to claim to be a Muslim for a woman. You must have the true faith in Allah in your heart. I pray that you will find it; not for a woman's sake but because it is the greatest good I could wish you.

Well we would have to disagree here once again. If God wants us to be together, theres nothing any man can do about that. I love her and its the truth. She has really impressed me with everything pertaining to her on line character.

U must not try something funny cos u know the person im talkinh about by convincing her not to fall for me.

Once again, God has the final say in this matter cheesy cheesy wink wink smiley smiley
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by toba: 5:28pm On Sep 16, 2011
deols:


lol
and this, and this,*in a funny tone* How i wish I know, for sure! whom this is undecided undecided cheesy cheesy

Lailai. i no go tell u cos i prefer to keep it secret for reasons i explained to tunji. Who knows it might even be u sef
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by deols(f): 5:29pm On Sep 16, 2011
maclatunji:

You have been avoiding me. I just want to talk. I asked Toba for a talk and I am sure he his happy he agreed. Why doth milady [/b]refuse?

[b]Milady
: Is used to address a woman as a mark of respect (it in no way means I own you or that we are romantically attached).

You have been avoiding me: I sent a message requesting a discussion.******Maybe you did not see it****** you have not responded.

Relax, yes I want to talk to you. However, if you unequivocally do not want to do so at any point in time. Send me a private message and state so clearly.

I am not fighting you.  grin

Smile!
i ddnt say u were fighting me nor did i need dis long words 2 understand u. nyways, since u askd here, am telling u here nd not sendn any private mssg  grin grin

dat am online here doesnt mean i can be, elsewhere .my internet connection is only good for Nl right now nd not so good for even twitter.
u'r right though that I was avoiding u. thought i made it clear enoff.
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by toba: 5:31pm On Sep 16, 2011
bhusayor:

^^lol, *fingers crossed* awaiting toba's reply,

Good one there @ journalist, wen will I be called for an interview too? Just kidding o!

Why are u awiting my response? SMDH. I wouldnt reveal her name here even though i have been praying for God to touch her heart and say yes to me, not minding what others would say. well i think she also loves me but there are somethings preventing her from going ahead. BTW im not a guy any longer so any relationship now is gonna be marriage tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by toba: 5:35pm On Sep 16, 2011
deols:

i ddnt say u were fighting me nor did i need dis long words 2 understand u. nyways, since u askd here, am telling u here nd not sendn any private mssg  grin grin

dat am online here doesnt mean i can be, elsewhere .my internet connection is only good for Nl right now nd not so good for even twitter.
u'r right though that I was avoiding u. thought i made it clear enoff.

Madam, werin happen? u no want make we try our luck in? Thats why i dey get tired for ladies. Dem too like shakara sef cry cry cry cry cry

If i want toast u know, would u not chase me away? cry embarassed
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by toba: 5:38pm On Sep 16, 2011
luqken:

I have a lot of respect for TOBA (his open mindedness)

Christains are the followers of Christ(Jesus).

Muslims believe in Jesus christ(Isa)(a muslim who does not isnt a Muslim) as a Prophet/Messenger just like Noah/Nuh,Abraham/Ibrahim,Moses/Musa,Jacob/Yaqub,John/Yahaya,Aaron/Aarun etc.(MAY THE PEACE AND BLESSING OF GOD BE ON THEM ALL)
There are people that believed in these prophets after they left and because of the love they have for them choosed to worship them which is wrong (what christains and jews are doing currently).
Some of them were given scriptures(psalm/Zabur for David/Dawud,Torat(old testament for Musa/moses,Injeel/Bible for Isa/jesus,Blessed with miracles to convince the people of the truth which they preached

These holy books were tampered with/adulterated after these prophets were gone by the enemies of GOD.

THEN CAME THE LAST OF THESE PROPHETS/MESSENGERS(Prophet Muhammad(PBUH),some of these scriptures attested to his coming (as the last prophet/messenger of GOD/Allah).
Allah sent him as the last messenger (with which no other messenger will come) to finalise all the work of these past messengers(including moses/jesus) and to preach to the entire world,Allah also gave him a scripture(of course the last book) which is the compilation of all past scriptures with the promise to guard and protect the book(AL QUR'AN) against adulteration fate suffered by the previous books.
The last Prophet Muhammad was sent to us all,so we are all suppose to be muslims but of course the enemies of GOD(SATAN AND HIS COHORTS) has promised to divide us by giving some of us fake believes.

Judaism(jews) and Christainity were the last two religions before Muhammad(pbuh) came with the final message so its not suprising that some people still held on to those believes probably because they didnt want to admit to the fact that any other messanger would come after moses and jesus respectively or because satan (shaitan) had penetrated them
U may be right to some extent but my issue is this. If we claim to serve and Believe in One God, why then should there be a barrier in Marriage between both sides?
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by deols(f): 5:57pm On Sep 16, 2011
@ toba, tell me d difference btw d ffg.

1.
deols:

what do those mean 


lol
and this, and this,*in a funny tone* How i wish I know, for sure! whom this is  undecided undecided cheesy cheesy

2.
deols:

i ddnt say u were fighting me nor did i need dis long words 2 understand u. nyways, since u askd here, am telling u here nd not sendn any private mssg  grin grin

dat am online here doesnt mean i can be, elsewhere .my internet connection is only good for Nl right now nd not so good for even twitter.
u'r right though that I was avoiding u. thought i made it clear enoff.

rhetoric. ansa is d tone in both is deliberate but obviously som1 (or 2) ddnt get dat.

nd BTW, is nothn wrong wv his reply?? or dat interview has got u into a new friendship lvl. grin
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by toba: 6:18pm On Sep 16, 2011
I see. he probably thinks u are one of those pretenders that we have in the romance section. some hypocrites there feel so much high and attach much importance to themselves embarassed embarassed embarassed sad sad sad. Just a commonn request or question, they feel they are being wanted. deaol, bhusayor can testify to what im saying. I think bro tunji felt the same way cos of our some NL ladies think embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed.

Anyway, pls be a gentle girl that i have always admired and liked. lets change gear.

Now can u tell me whom amongst the best well mannered, pretty, humble and respectful muslimas here i've actually falling for? tongue tongue tongue tongue lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by deols(f): 6:43pm On Sep 16, 2011
ow can i know dat now u seem to want to tell me, am all ears!
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by toba: 6:52pm On Sep 16, 2011
Ok. we would chat very well soon BRB
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by hayorbaami: 7:01pm On Sep 16, 2011
Mr Toba!interesting.you neva can tell. You might end up with a muslim girl.lol
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by maclatunji: 7:29pm On Sep 16, 2011
@deols, you are not a good enough communicator with me. You can tell a guy. Yes, I am interested. No, I will never be interested. And the 3rd option, give me space I want to think about it. That is all I am saying. I am limited on mobile but get this: I cannot get your tone in all honesty from your written words that I have seen either here or in private. Once again smile!
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by Sweetnecta: 7:49pm On Sep 16, 2011
@Luqken; « #7 on: Today at 03:57:28 PM »
[Quote]I have a lot of respect for TOBA (his open mindedness)

Christains are the followers of Christ(Jesus)[/Quote]this is not true, if Isa bin Mary, as you said was a muslim, a prophet of Allah.
However, the christians say they follow Jesus son of Mary. This is their own saying, their desire.
Re: Toba Speaks On Why He Is Attracted To Muslim Girls And Would Like To Marry One by deols(f): 8:01pm On Sep 16, 2011
hayorbaami:

Mr Toba!interesting.you neva can tell. You might end up with a muslim girl.lol

dr wld b nothn wrong in dat after he bcoms a muslim cheesy cheesy

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