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|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by yomola(m): 7:47am On Apr 18, 2012|
nice piece @ op ...thanks for sharing.....i never knew this in as much as i never thought of the north as one
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by revolt(m): 8:06am On Apr 18, 2012|
afam4eva: I don't belong to the category of southerner who think Hausa/Fulani is the only ethnic group in the north or that Islam is mainly or wholly muslim. if you think of it, it's even the northern muslims that push this thinking. They want people to beleive that Christians are minorities in the morth.ask him also why with the 25billion capitalisation in banking and the billionaire generals there how the south dominates banking telecoms trade education hotels engineering? Why is it only govt agencies they hold on too? Op made no new points cos we all know the norths heterogenous but if I rmba the civil wars immediate causes was the massacre of igbos at makurdi where over 30000 ppl lost their lives need I spell out other so called non hausa territories that partook in pogroms!!claim united north when convenient and deny it when dispised!!hope the op wasjoking when he said if northerners and southerners are put together to compete that the north...I cnt even complete it sef!!
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by benzion72(m): 8:12am On Apr 18, 2012|
This article is indeed enlighten. But the level of education and elightment in the north is very minimal compared to the population. When you correlate barbaric behavior exhibited by the north like killing of mrs Omowumi in Gombe state for stopping exam malpractices, beheading Akaluka in the name of God and the recent Boko Haram. Marriage of underage girls and all sort you tend to conclude that Northerners are bunch of unschooled and uneducated people. I served in Jigawa precisely Gwaram LGA. Almajiri is a big problem over there. While in the south west everybody struggle to give good education to their ward. Hausa/Fulani kids only go to quranic school only few have the privilege of going to school and it is not that they do not value education it is just a way of suppresing the masses of the people. Because the children of emirs and sultan are attending the same school with the children of the queen of england
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by KINGwax(m): 9:06am On Apr 18, 2012|
As me i konsign, me i knw say if u aint from d south in nigeria, you are from the north, and that concludes the fact that you are a boko haramist!
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by Nobody: 9:14am On Apr 18, 2012|
Same way i tell pple who don't know that not everybody from cross river state is calabar. @op, u're 80% right. Growing up in the south, i find it amazing pple think so about the north. I further confirmed it isn't as am currently serving there.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by Afam4eva(m): 9:23am On Apr 18, 2012|
Zediccus: Same way i tell pple who don't know that not everybody from cross river state is calabar. @op, u're 80% right. Growing up in the south, i find it amazing pple think so about the north. I further confirmed it isn't as am currently serving there.
The people they even call calabar are mostly peeople from Akwa Ibom state.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by 4llerbuntu(m): 9:27am On Apr 18, 2012|
BUT is his article not tantamount to an ijebu man claiming to be different to an egba man when referred to as yoruba?
i have stayed in the north too, this poster is yarning total opata
i do concede that the minute portion of northerners who are educated and excel, do so very very well. if Northerner go sabi book, e go sabi am die.
but i can assure u they are in the minute minority.
if the OP and his fellow complainants are honest, they know they come from families that are elite. 1 of such exist for every 2000 families in the north.
contrast that with the south and east where countless palmwine tappers and akara sellers have produced doctors and professors.
cheap story. Northerner na Northerner chikena
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by emmke(m): 9:50am On Apr 18, 2012|
ignorant posters exhibiting their "southern intelligence" lol, ride on guys.
KINGwax: As me i konsign, me i knw say if u aint from d south in nigeria, you are from the north, and that concludes the fact that you are a boko haramist![quote author=4llerbuntu]BUT is his article not tantamount to an ijebu man claiming to be different to an egba man when referred to as yoruba?
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by hakanai(m): 9:54am On Apr 18, 2012|
I think that is blatant lie.During the sharia crisis of Kaduna,i for one can tell you that i was in Enugu and i saw with my eyes the implication of that.Even where the media failed to highlight the seriousness of the issue in the SE.Let me tell you,Enugu is relatively peacefull compared to Anambra,Abia and Imo.In Enugu i saw an old Hausaman lynched to death around Onu Asata which is closer to the artisan area,where the Hausa community is largely based .When i got back from school that day.The whole place seemed tense.The Normal Hausa suya spots and sweet,cigarette sales people had there items vandalized/looted.The Governor Chimaroke without doubt did his best to ensure things remained normal.I remember my cousin almost panicking when the old man was lynched.I told him to pull it together to avoid any suspicion.We walked all the way to the stadium to make a call through stacom phone boot that day(Then we had no mobile devices).Our families asked we all return home.I can tell you that night i didn't know the carnage done to northerners in the south-east until i went to the Ogbete market park and 82 division.In 82 division it was a refugee camp.With mostly women and children who were spared and alot of the male counter-parts killed.Government then had to make transport arrangement for alot of this people considering there situation.Later on due to the movement of people from the south east and North.The FGN instructed state governors to discourage the max exodus.As this sort of fueled the apprehension it could be back to the civil war days.LEt me tell you that the media focused mainly on the Kaduna crisis and ignored all that was happening in the South-east.I can tell you people were killed substantially in Abia and Imo states.Then later on the Anambra saga.Where non-Igbo speaking persons were lynched and killed crossing the Niger bridge.Inshort i even remember the government technical college around IMT in Enugu attacking the artisan Mosque over a rumor.If not for the intervention of police it was almost gutted down.Somehow it was later burnt down still by same SE people.In garki Enugu too.Killings took place.since the media down plays it.I also mingle with Northern counter parts and its sad what they tell you happens to them in this areas of the south east.In short i remember an Igbo friend telling me that in Umuahia an entire Hausa community was attacked and alot were killed.He told me to his amazement no media house reported this incidence.All they do is say "likely reprisals or reprisal killings" i feel the media should be more elaborate about such crisis there.AS they will,If it was in the North.NL tells you even more than the Nigerian Media will tell you.form eye witness accounts.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by Afam4eva(m): 9:57am On Apr 18, 2012|
But you have to agree that these were reprisals attacks.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by 9jaIhail(m): 11:07am On Apr 18, 2012|
Good day Mr.Andrew.I am sorry but i have to say something here.i am disappointed how you derailed this thread.I am sure you can notice that you shifted this thread from the original discussion to something mean less or baseless,the reason why i felt like to voice out is because i am not expecting this from a person of your type,i have looked up to you as someone to be the next Eze Igbo Nairaland and this is what caught me worried.I wouldn't have say this here if i have any other means to communicate with you,since i have no other means i have to use this place to inform you of my disappointment in your part.I am not trying to bash or interrupt you.I just want you to know that one of your fan is highly disappointed that you gave this nama call alj_haram the opportunity he have been looking for to derailed this thread.Remember i am confirmed nwa afo,and few people might have noticed my strong position in issues concern Ndigbo and Biafra.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by Acelifted: 11:43am On Apr 18, 2012|
Thank you for that great piece. It is amazing that this prejudice and misconception is from the so-called educated elite from the south. The Igbos are well travelled and hardly go about with such misconceptions.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by striker07(m): 11:58am On Apr 18, 2012|
OP Is right to some extent, but i disagree with some of his assertion,Federal character favours the north in the area of employment opportunities in government establishment, also in the area of education, it is easier to gain admission to northern universities than most universities in the south west,but i am not discarding that given north and south thesame opportunity that north cannot thrive, academic performance is not dependent on some particular origin.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by hakanai(m): 12:00pm On Apr 18, 2012|
afam4eva:Not totally i doubt.An instance also in Enugu as a result of a gambling dispute had turned violent.Simply because the fight was between a Hausa/Igbo gambler again.The Igbos were on the match not minding the fact that this is a game between two grown people.Even where it is criminal.Before you know it,The Igbos were shouting how can a Hausa man come and probably have a fight with his Igbo gambling friend.Again in this instance the Hausa community was targeted.
Also on a separate account My friend also told me while in Anambra at a park.He was about to observe his salat when an Igbo man violently shoved him and denied him praying.Reason he gave him is you can't pray here on our land.Remind me if that is reprisals.
Lastly my response was not over who started or reprisals,But largely of the notion that nothing happened to the Hausa/Muslim communities in the south-east.That is a lie.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by chux76(m): 1:34pm On Apr 18, 2012|
3direct: The writer is not from the north all the saying na lie
You are such a terrible ASS-WIPE?..this thread was open for contributions from intelligent people not form milk-sucking kids like you. Have you ever left the bossom of your mummy?
I am a Deltan and I live in the North and I agree.although not totally with the OP but 95% of his write-up is very true. I can tell you a place in Borno state,where everybody thinks everyone there is a Muslim,there are families where they have both Xtains and Muslims,I mean a family of 5 could be divided into 3 Xtians and 2 Muslims or vice-versa and they live in harmony.
We recently attended a wedding in Mafa,Borno state where a Xtian business associate of mine got wedded to a Muslim woman,and I witnessed the most amazing thing ever,Something I never believed could happen in the core North.
In attendance of the wedding were many Muslim women and men,friends and relatives of the bride and groom and the women were all dressed in hijabs,and dancing happily to the events in church,I was left in utter amazement and had to come out of the church to read the signpost of the church,to really ascertain that I'm still in Nigeria and Borno state for that matter. I later got clarifications from the groom later on that most families had mixed religions amongst them and it has been like that for ages.
Another amazing thing was when he told me that since the beginning of the crises in the late 90's,there has been a strong directive never to sell any piece of land,no matter how small,to a Fulani settler,they could sell to any other tribe but not the Fulani's; The reason: they brew trouble(their opinion,not mine).
So Mr novice,it is better you just keep your lips glued and stay in your little haven than open your open and say things you know nothing about.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by Gudiza(m): 1:50pm On Apr 18, 2012|
OK, try religion.
Nayah: Perfect post!! As a non- Nigerian I think this enlightens a lot of things even though I know that not all Northern part is Muslim or Hausa. But this is not so different from my country, actually in Cameroon for Southerners the Northern part is Muslim while the region of Ngaoundéré in the Adamaoua region ( yes Cameroon has also Adamaoua region and Cross river) are full of christians about 50%, and they (Southerners) used to talk about Hausa to define the North while Hausas are just located in Maroua( Northern region) and the rest is populated by Fulanis, Mbororos, Kanuris, Arab Shoa, Tupurris and so on on the Extreme North Region.
This is news albiet strange because I know they do not dominate the polity.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by obataala(m): 2:03pm On Apr 18, 2012|
@ op in a muslim dominated 'world of d north',how misleadin it is; dat all northerners are muslims & hausas,which ws not of d makin any southerner, but an homogeneous propaganda of d core north in an attempt 2 continue 2 submit & subject d minorities 2 der domination. minorities 2 actually concurred 2,until recently dat section of d north;part of north central woke up & started loosenin d grip of the core north by wantin a separate identity of middle birth.iz not lyk they dont kno if the existence of other ethnic nationalities in that same region,but they had all been totally supressed (historical factor) & mayb in der thinkin clarification ws effort in futility.even now i dont c much effort 4rm other minorities.
On d misconception dat all are muslims in d north,if there exist xtianity there,i would say that,because islam of d north has no tolerance,d few states known as hardline notably;sokoto,maiduguri,kano,katsina,zamfara,gigawa & yobe,no freeborn of these places can hv a conflictin religious belief 2 dat of their parents or community witut a consequence,u're lebel infidel,d risk is far 2 gr8,u can be banished 4rm d home & family,xcommunicated & austraxizd 4 u've brought shame 2 ur family or even death.xcept d family's faith is esrablished,unlyk in d south wer father's religious conviction is different 4rm dat of d wife & even dat of d children,it neva seriously affected der relationship. based on this odd,it ll definitely beat their imagination 2 hv a separate conversion. God,u nid 2 c hw scornfu they luked @ us yl goin 2 church,it ws even a scare most recently; on each sundays we usually had some kids cumin & convergin @ church entrance,notin u do 2 want 2 clear d entrance dat ll deter dem,so we were told nt 2 conduct service on dat particular sunday,if ll do d buildin ws goin 2 b razed ,d reason ws dat we were convertin their poeple,d emir ws said 2 hv bin spotted arrnd d locality durin all of these,anoda info mentioned deeper lyf as target of d scare bein d culprit.u can imagine d pandemonium created.
d people of d south ar not entirely different 4rm d people of d north humanly,d uncommon is in culture & religious belief.it tends 2 affect ways of learnin & seekin knowledge.religion is a veritable 2l of d muslum north,they ar enthusiastic of their spirituality,d culture favours Arab based knowledge (Islamic education),& in my locality wer i hv my ppa in katsina state,we were initially shocked dat sch. assembly wuld b conducted in hausa, d only tym english is spoken wuld b durin press news,i stopped attendin assemblies,they are acquirin western education but detest english language.opinion i sampled 4rm sum of d pipils were dat english is christianity & dat western education is christian colonization,can u beat that!,teachin & learnin bcam an herculean task in 1st term & had 2 adjust our drives.hw well can 1 go unda such senerio attainin academic xcellence.thus is not generalization.i'll stop here 4 now.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by Nayah(f): 2:18pm On Apr 18, 2012|
Perfect post!! As a non- Nigerian I think this enlightens a lot of things even though I know that not all Northern part is Muslim or Hausa. But this is not so different from my country, actually in Cameroon for Southerners the Northern part is Muslim while the region of Ngaoundéré in the Adamaoua region ( yes Cameroon has also Adamaoua region and Cross river) are full of christians about 50%, and they (Southerners) used to talk about Hausa to define the North while Hausas are just located in Maroua( Northern region) and the rest is populated by Fulanis, Mbororos, Kanuris, Arab Shoa, Tupurris and so on on the Extreme North Region.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by emmatok: 2:23pm On Apr 18, 2012|
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by otokx(m): 2:50pm On Apr 18, 2012|
Their remedial programme is 50 years behind UNIPORT and most other southern universities with entry requirement of 3 credits and limited to only people in the north
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by CuteTj(m): 3:37pm On Apr 18, 2012|
9ja_I_hail:its ridiculous how 3 people totally derailed this thread. They took almost 2 - 3 pages engaging in meaningless arguement and display of ignorance. It got to a point i was uninterested in reading any longer because of them. This thread was created to enlighten Southerners about their fellow Northerners. You can argue about the North because its part of the enlighenment that the OP intended but If you want to argue about the south, feel free to do so on another thread but not on this particular one.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by semoskillz: 3:52pm On Apr 18, 2012|
MR. MARK I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OTHER STATES BUT KWARA STATE DONT HAVE UP TO 40% CHRISTIAN... YOU CAN PROVE YOUR STATISTICS WITH EVIDENCE, I KNOW THIS STATE VERY WELL AND THAT WRONG ASSUMPTION YOU GAVE HAS GIVEN ME DOUBT ABOUT THE OTHER STATES I DON'T KNOW
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by lagcity(m): 4:22pm On Apr 18, 2012|
semoskillz: MR. MARK I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OTHER STATES BUT KWARA STATE DONT HAVE UP TO 40% CHRISTIAN... YOU CAN PROVE YOUR STATISTICS WITH EVIDENCE, I KNOW THIS STATE VERY WELL AND THAT WRONG ASSUMPTION YOU GAVE HAS GIVEN ME DOUBT ABOUT THE OTHER STATES I DON'T KNOW
I don't have any census data but Kwara state should be at least 40% christian considering it is more or less a Yoruba state. Ilorin is majority muslim though.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by Afam4eva(m): 4:46pm On Apr 18, 2012|
These is a cheeeky reason why it should be 40% christians. Note that majority of Kwara Yorubas are like Northerner.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by noiseless: 6:09pm On Apr 18, 2012|
@Haka nai. The problems with your last post are those "someone said this, a friend of mine said that and another friend of a friend said this". Would it not be a joke if you keep judging and reaching conclussions base on what "friends" said happened to "hausa people" in the south to justify the shameful massacre by the hausa/fulanis? Infact i think the writer could easily be ndu_chuks & co who are more than ready to use any guise to decieve people as much as they can, orderwise the writer should have known that he has know right to accuse us the southerners of those things he said, when he should be making effort to stop those violent lots from reprenting the whole north, instead he is busy playing the blame game here.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by BabaTony: 6:50pm On Apr 18, 2012|
What's this crap I hear about ndoki being in akwa ibom, I ask where in akwa ibom do they stay?which LGA in AKS?pls there r no ndoki ppl I AKS.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by GogobiriLalas: 6:56pm On Apr 18, 2012|
In addition, many southerners also do not know that Fulani herdsmen are great sheep and cow lovers...they kiss them and make love to them very sensually ikpoke!
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by Nobody: 7:14pm On Apr 18, 2012|
Some people usually forget that kwara state isn't just ilorin alone. The state as a whole is almost evenly distributed between the muslims Ƌπϑ the christians so ΐ̲̅ƒ̲̅ you say its a ratio of 40-60 percent, its can't be authenticated by its still sensible. Try τ̅ȍ take notes the extent of followership on any festive day between these twos.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by Afam4eva(m): 7:20pm On Apr 18, 2012|
BabaTony: What's this crap I hear about ndoki being in akwa ibom, I ask where in akwa ibom do they stay?which LGA in AKS?pls there r no ndoki ppl I AKS.
Ndoki is located in Ukanafun Local Government area of Akwa-Ibom.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by BabaTony: 7:30pm On Apr 18, 2012|
Afam this is not true, ndoki is just a border community in abia state,they are not part of ukanafun LGA nay AKS. The fact that they share borders with AKS does not make them part of AKS.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by Orikinla(m): 7:54pm On Apr 18, 2012|
zeeleso: THE general belief held by most southerners about the North is that the region is not just mainly Muslim, but wholly Muslim. Whenever I meet someone from the South and introduce myself, I am correctly placed as a Christian. But once I am asked my state and I say Borno State, the next question becomes, ‘Are you a Muslim?’ This is despite my name being a very common Biblical name, Mark, which is the second Gospel. Matter of fact, I have been asked that question while attending a church programme, with a Bible conspicuously held in my hands. You could imagine my surprise at that question. This has also been the experience of a lot of friends with common names such as ‘Emmanuel’, ‘Daniel’, etc.
Ignorance is worse than corruption. And ignorance is actually what is destroying Nigeria more than corruption. Because ignorance kills.
That is why Boko Haram is actually on rampage, because their ignorance is the cause of their insecurity and is the cause of their insanity.
Many Muslim students even show symptoms of the Boko Haram sickness by deliberating provoking and attacking Christians on campuses in the north. Their insanity is powered by their insecurity.
Only the TRUTH can set them free and save them from the calamity of their insanity.
|Re: The North That Southerners Don’t Know by all4naija(m): 10:02pm On Apr 18, 2012|
If that is to be the truth why is the Muslim population more than the Christian's in Nigeria?
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