@ Cap28

People move from London to the exterior for many reasons but usually to have more room for the same price for what they can get in London. I know someone who moved from Hyde park to Surrey to have more room and less noise and he isn't even married. Others move for schools; there may be blacks who move to be closer to white folks but generally, most do not do that.Besides the white folks in Essex are different from the white folks you will find in Surrey or Berkshire. You will find many Nigerians who live in the suburbs who still travel into London for association, hanging out, parties. Not many move to the suburbs to start hanging out at the pub on Friday. They are likely to be at 805, Presidential, Mama Calabar, Tomi's kitchen, etc When you do find Black folks in white clubs, pubs, they are hunting and you can't blame anyone for hunting.

I have a question and it may seem like a rhetorical question but it isn't. If you feel so strongly about the white establishment in the UK, why do you keep living there? Anyone who feels as strongly as you do should be doing more than trying to educate others on the Internet. Similarly, I don't think a black folk should complain too much about opportunities in the UK considering the UK affords more opportunities than all of Africa put together for the African. I believe that the UK offers a black person the opportunity to make something of himself but I still believe there are more opportunities in the US. I believe there is a glass ceiling in the UK for black professionals. That glass ceiling, however, makes some to strive to be better skilled and educated which may or may not lead to rewards. Thats just my opinion.

shymmex:

The silly girl acted like a slut - she was jumping from pillar to post, and that's what sluts do.

How can any sane person say there is no double-dip recession in the UK?

Shymmex,

There is no need for name calling. Bringing sexuality into a debate just because your opponent has a different view is not on.
Naijababe is one of the most grounded folks in this section; she doesn't deserve that. Please apologise and lets move on.

Katsumoto: @ Cap28

People move from London to the exterior for many reasons but usually to have more room for the same price for what they can get in London. I know someone who moved from Hyde park to Surrey to have more room and less noise and he isn't even married. Others move for schools; there may be blacks who move to be closer to white folks but generally, most do not do that.Besides the white folks in Essex are different from the white folks you will find in Surrey or Berkshire. You will find many Nigerians who live in the suburbs who still travel into London for association, hanging out, parties. Not many move to the suburbs to start hanging out at the pub on Friday. They are likely to be at 805, Presidential, Mama Calabar, Tomi's kitchen, etc When you do find Black folks in white clubs, pubs, they are hunting and you can't blame anyone for hunting.

I have a question and it may seem like a rhetorical question but it isn't. If you feel so strongly about the white establishment in the UK, why do you keep living there? Anyone who feels as strongly as you do should be doing more than trying to educate others on the Internet[b]. Similarly, I don't think a black folk should complain too much about opportunities in the UK considering the UK affords more opportunities than all of Africa put together for the African[/b]. I believe that the UK offers a black person the opportunity to make something of himself but I still believe there are more opportunities in the US. I believe there is a glass ceiling in the UK for black professionals. That glass ceiling, however, makes some to strive to be better skilled and educated which may or may not lead to rewards. Thats just my opinion.

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shymmex:

The silly girl acted like a slut - she was jumping from pillar to post, and that's what sluts do.

How can any sane person say there is no double-dip recession in the UK?

I thank god for clued up dudes like u, guys like u remind me tht there is still hope for our race

Katsumoto: @ Cap28

People move from London to the exterior for many reasons but usually to have more room for the same price for what they can get in London. I know someone who moved from Hyde park to Surrey to have more room and less noise and he isn't even married. Others move for schools; there may be blacks who move to be closer to white folks but generally, most do not do that.

Oga mi, I was waiting for the return of the intelligent and balanced folks like you otherwise I was done with this thread and with that cowardly Cap28, failing to take up the challenge of telling us his experience of UK black/Nigerian life. Is that not what you do here easily without instigation? You are able to do this and know what you know because you are real and have lived a balanced life. Thank you for speaking the truth above to wannabe Malcolm X too scared to even reveal the most minute detail about himself.

Besides the white folks in Essex are different from the white folks you will find in Surrey or Berkshire. You will find many Nigerians who live in the suburbs who still travel into London for association, hanging out, parties. Not many move to the suburbs to start hanging out at the pub on Friday. They are likely to be at 805, Presidential, Mama Calabar, Tomi's kitchen, etc When you do find Black folks in white clubs, pubs, they are hunting and you can't blame anyone for hunting.

Man mi, this is what I like about you. Your pragmatic intelligence informed by the type of incisive knowledge one only gains from real experience. In fact you highlight another reason that informed my move. I went to Uni in Surrey and could have stayed there to work but I found the County, in general, to be too white for my taste. I moved back to London and in fact bought my first property in East London. When I got married and the kids started coming along, I knew what I had to do as I had friends who had already moved to areas of Essex (Hornchurch, Elm Park, Upminster) that allowed great access to London because they were served by the underground. You nail the socialising pattern of 'grounded' Nigerians in Essex properly. I don't do pubs generally and will never hang out in any boring local pub when, even if I don't want to go far, a quick drive down the A13 links me to Club Afrique in Canning town where I can join 'awon boys' for a drink.

This Cap28 is just an ignorant cretin who knows nothing about the Nigerian experience in the UK. Look at how , as a real person, you came and laid it down sharply and correctly here? I keep asking him to point to his black/Nigerian experience in the UK and the fool continues to run from pillar to post in testimony to how he is an empty barrel faker and wannabe capable of only leading impressionable young men astray via pretending to be what he is not.

I have a question and it may seem like a rhetorical question but it isn't. If you feel so strongly about the white establishment in the UK, why do you keep living there? Anyone who feels as strongly as you do should be doing more than trying to educate others on the Internet. Similarly, I don't think a black folk should complain too much about opportunities in the UK considering the UK affords more opportunities than all of Africa put together for the African. I believe that the UK offers a black person the opportunity to make something of himself but I still believe there are more opportunities in the US. I believe there is a glass ceiling in the UK for black professionals. That glass ceiling, however, makes some to strive to be better skilled and educated which may or may not lead to rewards. Thats just my opinion.

Thank you my brother. Knowing the shameless fool, faker and wannabe, evasiveness is all you will get in reply.

^^^

University of Surrey, hun? Not Ox?

Gbawe:


Man mi, this is what I like about you. Your pragmatic intelligence informed by the type of incisive knowledge one only gains from real experience. In fact you highlight another reason that informed my move. I went to Uni in Surrey and could have stayed there to work but I found the County, in general, to be too white for my taste. I moved back to London and in fact bought my first property in East London. When I got married and the kids started coming along, I knew what I had to do as I had friends who had already moved to areas of Essex (Hornchurch, Elm Park, Upminster) that allowed great access to London because they were served by the underground. You nail the socialising pattern of 'grounded' Nigerians in Essex properly. I don't do pubs generally and will never hang out in any boring local pub when, even if I don't want to go far, a quick drive down the A13 links me to Club Afrique in Canning town where I can join 'awon boys' for a drink.

Indeed

Join awon boys for a quick drink or join awon boys for a quick session in chasing East African tail? Jewo jor

Katsumoto:

Indeed

Join awon boys for a quick drink or join awon boys for a quick session in chasing[b] East African tail[/b]? Jewo jor

Bobo yi, you are too much !!!!! Kai !!!

This is what wannabes like Cap28 , holed up in their room and brimming with hatred, will never understand. I.e it is actually beaurifuuuul to be a Naija guy in the UK. We have it better than most. We have our own lifestyle entirely, are ambitious and never stop attempting to better ourselves. When all these African girls are creeping up the wrong side of 25, Naija men are the number 1 choice of most of them because they see the charisma, generosity, swagger and assured confidence we carry ourselves with.

My brother, my wife is not Nigerian but I can tell you that most of the girls in her family, above 25, actually discriminate in favour of Nigerian men because , for African women looking to get 'serious', Naija guys are certainly up there regarding potential long-term partners.

You be real Naija man combining everything well. New found respect for you. This is why we tell some not to judge a book by its cover. It is clear you enter town well-well because of your knowledge I know can only come from real experience. Yet the way you write, some may mistake you to be entirely about bookish and academic endeavours.

Meanwhile empty barrels , usually the loudest, and fake Malcolm X's like Cap28 are the real nerds hiding away while the net gives them the perfect podium to feel cool and important. It is the perfect stage for them to pretend to be what they are not. See him running from pillar to post and avoiding revealing his black/Nigerian UK experience whereas some small yarn from you makes me realise that I am dealing with someone pragmatically enjoying the full Nigerian experience in the UK. Wetin we for do but make the best of affairs for ourselves and loved ones ? Abeg, You do well my brother.

cap28:

I thank god for clued up dudes like u, guys like u remind me tht there is still hope for our race

with obdurate w@nkers like yourself procreating, there's simply no hope for the black race!
i hope it's legal to have you exterminated before you populate the planet with indolent twits
like yourself.

shymmex:
The silly girl acted like a slut - she was jumping from pillar to post, and that's what sluts do.
How can any sane person say there is no double-dip recession in the UK?

epitome of your cassava background!
look at the words you are saying to a woman. she confronted you intelligently and instead of you
to face the issue, you barked out like a loser that you are and attacked her personality.

I think the OP is wrong in his comparison of Nigerian gang members in Britain and the US. The US is simply too big and diversely populated to be directly compared with Britain. Also, the population of Nigerians in Britain is probably greater than that of Nigerians in the US. When you have fewer Nigerians in a place greater than 43 times the size of Britain, it is only natural that they won’t make the News as much as their British counterparts.

I can only laugh about the Affirmative Action comment stated on the first page! Government employers or companies that deal directly with the government (govt contractors) are only required to be an Equal Opportunity Employer. That is, you cannot discriminate against any employee or applicant for employment because of race, creed, color, or national origin.

It is not a quota based system. It simply means that you’re giving minorities (females, African Americans, Hispanics, American Indians) the same opportunity to get a job as you’re giving whites. If at the end of the day, a white applicant is the most qualified, then that’s who gets hired even if it means that all your employees are white.

Also, equal opportunity employment does not apply to private companies unless that company can be considered a State actor.

With regards to the racism theme in some of the posts, I’m not naïve enough to say that racism does not exist because humans will always find a way to distinguish one from another. All you have to do to find racism/tribalism is to take a look at Nairaland/Nigeria.

However, there are some people that expect the world to be handed to them on a platter of gold and are quick to blame racism if things don’t go their way, and there are others that kick another door open when one gets shut in their face! Na which one you be?

Wallie: I think the OP is wrong in his comparison of Nigerian gang members in Britain and the US. The US is simply too big and diversely populated to be directly compared with Britain. Also, the population of Nigerians in Britain is probably greater than that of Nigerians in the US. When you have fewer Nigerians in a place greater than 43 times the size of Britain, it is only natural that they won’t make the News as much as their British counterparts.

I can only laugh about the Affirmative Action comment stated on the first page! Government employers or companies that deal directly with the government (govt contractors) are only required to be an Equal Opportunity Employer. That is, you cannot discriminate against any employee or applicant for employment because of race, creed, color, or national origin.

It is not a quota based system. It simply means that you’re giving minorities (females, African Americans, Hispanics, American Indians) the same opportunity to get a job as you’re giving whites. If at the end of the day, a white applicant is the most qualified, then that’s who gets hired even if it means that all your employees are white.

Also, equal opportunity employment does not apply to private companies unless that company can be considered a State actor.

With regards to the racism theme in some of the posts, I’m not naïve enough to say that racism does not exist because humans will always find a way to distinguish one from another. All you have to do to find racism/tribalism is to take a look at Nairaland/Nigeria.

However, there are some people that expect the world to be handed to them on a platter of gold and are quick to blame racism if things don’t go their way, and there are others that kick another door open when one gets shut in their face! Na which one you be?

cap28 belongs to the former!
if the word "LOSER" can be tattooed on his forehead then the process is complete.

coogar:

with obdurate w@nkers like yourself procreating, there's simply no hope for the black man!
i hope it's legal to have you exterminated before you populate the planet with indolent twits
like yourself.

Precisely. Totally wretched and watered-down version of Abu Hamza. At least the hateful cleric is out in public while fools and cowards like Cap28 hideaway looking for impressionable young men online to 'mentor'. I don't know why Cap28 is not on a podium in Brixton somehwhere bravely putting his money where his filthy mouth is.

Wallie: I think the OP is wrong in his comparison of Nigerian gang members in Britain and the US. The US is simply too big and diversely populated to be directly compared with Britain. Also, the population of Nigerians in Britain is probably greater than that of Nigerians in the US. When you have fewer Nigerians in a place greater than 43 times the size of Britain, it is only natural that they won’t make the News as much as their British counterparts.

I can only laugh about the Affirmative Action comment stated on the first page! Government employers or companies that deal directly with the government (govt contractors) are only required to be an Equal Opportunity Employer. That is, you cannot discriminate against any employee or applicant for employment because of race, creed, color, or national origin.

It is not a quota based system. It simply means that you’re giving minorities (females, African Americans, Hispanics, American Indians) the same opportunity to get a job as you’re giving whites. If at the end of the day, a white applicant is the most qualified, then that’s who gets hired even if it means that all your employees are white.

Also, equal opportunity employment does not apply to private companies unless that company can be considered a State actor.

With regards to the racism theme in some of the posts, I’m not naïve enough to say that racism does not exist because humans will always find a way to distinguish one from another. All you have to do to find racism/tribalism is to take a look at Nairaland/Nigeria.

However, there are some people that expect the world to be handed to them on a platter of gold and are quick to blame racism if things don’t go their way, and there are others that kick another door open when one gets shut in their face! Na which one you be?

Lovely post. I think, from the contributions so far, it is not difficult to discern the losers here and those who get on with it.

Katsumoto: @ Cap28

People move from London to the exterior for many reasons but usually to have more room for the same price for what they can get in London. I know someone who moved from Hyde park to Surrey to have more room and less noise and he isn't even married. Others move for schools; there may be blacks who move to be closer to white folks but generally, most do not do that.Besides the white folks in Essex are different from the white folks you will find in Surrey or Berkshire. You will find many Nigerians who live in the suburbs who still travel into London for association, hanging out, parties. Not many move to the suburbs to start hanging out at the pub on Friday. They are likely to be at 805, Presidential, Mama Calabar, Tomi's kitchen, etc When you do find Black folks in white clubs, pubs, they are hunting and you can't blame anyone for hunting.

I have a question and it may seem like a rhetorical question but it isn't. If you feel so strongly about the white establishment in the UK, why do you keep living there? Anyone who feels as strongly as you do should be doing more than trying to educate others on the Internet. Similarly, I don't think a black folk should complain too much about opportunities in the UK considering the UK affords more opportunities than all of Africa put together for the African. I believe that the UK offers a black person the opportunity to make something of himself but I still believe there are more opportunities in the US. I believe there is a glass ceiling in the UK for black professionals. That glass ceiling, however, makes some to strive to be better skilled and educated which may or may not lead to rewards. Thats just my opinion.

First of all let's get one thiing straight- this "debate” has been abt black pple movg frm innr londn into white dominated enclaves, this is not a debate abt pple in general mvng frm innr londn to the suburbs therefore I think it is pointless of u to make the statement ”pple move frm londn to the exterior for many reasons”. The mistake tht pple like u continue to make is that u actually think u r in the same boat as the average white persn when u r not . Let me explain why, first of all a white person cn move to anywhere in this cntry without fear of being discriminated against in terms of jobs or housing- can a black persn do this? A white persn cn up sticks and move to any cntry in the world and be guaranteed good treatment frm the local pple and decent employment-cn a black persn attempt such? Why then do u equate ur self to someone whose life opportunities r not the same as yrs?
White pple hve an entire support stucture set up to protect. And provide for them wherevr they find themselves in the world - english pple cn immigrate to the us, south afrca, canada new zealand and evn nigeria and still live bettr thn any black persn incldng u so why wld u want foolishly mimic evrythg they do when it is patently obvious tht u r not accorded the same opportunities and safety nets as them.
I therefore thnk it is foolish and misleading to compare the two xperiences.
U talk abt blck families mvg out to the suburbs for the schools but hve u evr askd urself how those schls bcame sought after? Do u thk they just appeared out of nowhere to bcome wht they r today? How come black families can't developtheir own communities like evry othr race of ppl and send their childrn to schls where they will be amongst their own pple instead of placing them in hostile racist envirnmnts where they develp low self esteem and r taught to be ashamed of their race?

Golders green hampstead hendn -these r all jewish enclaves wth good schls but they weren't always like tht-the jewish community workd hard to develop their community and elevate the std of eductn of their ppl they diddnt run off to white enclaves or try to reap where they didn't sow like gbawe and othr parasites.

The white folk in essex hve one thing in common wth the whites in surrey and berkshire-they dnt like lvg close to black ppl and wen the chips r down they unite and form a collective front against u the nigerian outsider who they dnt wnt in their community or schools. The reason tht the nigerians hang out in those naija joints is because they r not welcome in white clubs and social cicles, if they cld socialise wth white englsh pple they wld.

And following the e-mutilation of sorts witnessed on this thread, the endangered Nigerian youth who has fallen out of favour remains just that - endangered.
No solutions proffered. No agreement on whether there is even a problem. Just more of the mudslinging that obtains of these boards, which, I suppose, makes us feel good our current station in life. Some catharsis, eh?

Katsumoto u askd why I live here well firstly I was born here and have dual nationality and secndly because the econmc cndtn of nigeria is in freefall and shows no sign of recovry. To make matters worse the averge so called eductd nigerian is too cowardly,selfish and ignrnt to thinnk abt organising a movement tht will lead to the overthrw of the currnt criminl cabal tht r entrnchd in powr. I am therefore here not out of choice but out of necessity and gvn tht I hve a legitimate right to be here I am also entitled to voice my dicontent wth the currnt marginalisatn tht blck ppl like myself xperience in this cntry.

Rome as they say was nt built in a day -i hve chsn to use the intrnet as a means of desseminating info to conscious brothrs and sistrs-u my nt like wht u hear bt there r many who do , besides u hve no idea wht I do outside nl.

Ur statemnt abt nt cmplaing too much abt the situatn in the uk is typicl of the averge afrcn who will nvr fight for anythg in life but xpct to reap the rewardsof a good life tht someone else laid down their life for. Cn u imagine how things wld hve been in the uk for black pplif the jamaicns had adopted ur stance wen cnfrntd wth racist policeand nationl front fascists? Cn u imagine how dangerous it wld hve been for u to venture beyond the m25 as a black persn let alone try to live beyond londn? Ruminate on tht thought my friend lol!

cap28:
Ur statemnt abt nt cmplaing too much abt the situatn in the uk is typicl of the averge afrcn who will nvr fight for anythg in life but xpct to reap the rewardsof a good life tht someone else laid down their life for. Can u imagine how things wld hve been in the uk for black ppl if the jamaicans had adopted ur stance wen confronted wth racist police and national front fascists? Can u imagine how dangerous it wld hve been for u to venture beyond the m25 as a black person let alone try to live beyond london? Ruminate on tht thought my friend lol!

this is a lethargic way of reasoning.
look around europe - where have you seen black people haunted down by police or skinheads on a regular basis?
i admire what the jamaicans did then but this is 2012, such nonsense is no longer permitted anywhere in europe.
with or without the struggle of the jamaicans in the 70s, it wouldn't have affected the way black people are living in 2012.

Pretend professor gbawe I see thht u r still hyperventilating because u still hvnt cme to terms wth the sustained attack I hve made on ur fragile ego, u knw smthg u dnt evn sound like a man who is used to being in cntrl - u sound weak,hysterical,insecure and pathetic, u r so terrified of criticism u deteriorate into a shrill,desperate mess wenevr ur ego is undr threat ,these r typicl attributes of ccowardice and gormlessness-i really do pity u!

coogar:

this is a lethargic way of reasoning.
look around europe - where have you seen black people haunted down by police or skinheads on a regular basis?
i admire what the jamaicans did then but this is 2012, such nonsense is no longer permitted anywhere in europe.
with or without the struggle of the jamaicans in the 70s, it wouldn't have affected the way black people are living in 2012.

Agboro man hve u finshd ur early mrng cleaning shift? Hve u evr opened any reading material in ur life if it wasn't porn or football? If u underwent a lobotomy nobody wld notice the diffrence!lol!

cap28:

Agboro man hve u finshd ur early mrng cleaning shift? Hve u evr opened any reading material in ur life if it wasn't porn or football? If u underwent a lobotomy nobody wld notice the diffrence!lol!

the joke is on you, obdurate w@nker......
i blame the recipient of your y-chromosomes for not using it as listerine.
you should never have been allowed to meet the ovum as you epitomise sheer idiocy.

Shymmex

Nigerians commit crime everywhere, but the ratio of Nigerian kids committing crimes per population in the UK outnumbers that of Nigerians in other civilized countries. Bare in mind that the population of Nigerians in America is arguably twice, or three times the population of Nigerians in UK. The question is, why is rife among Nigerian kids in the UK?

cheikh

Gang banging happens where kids/teenagers have a shared "world view" and live in close proximity to each other. Nigerians in the U.S.A. do not have [/b]the "luxury" or [b]misfortune of living in very close proximity to the predominantly vulnerable community as in London. America is bigger and actually segregated. Nigerians in the USA are likely to mind their own business instead of mixing with the host community that may influence their kids negatively.

@Shymmex Pls see above^^ for my opinion on the matter. The Nigerian population in the U.S.A may be large but they are actually dispersed between the various states/cities and towns. There are no opportunities to Bleep like those who live in the "Projects" or in council estates of some inner cities of U.K. especially London. I think that the other contributory factor in some Nigerian(British) kids/teenagers from these estates gang banging is peer pressure and bad/absent parenting skills by delinquent parents who have become assimilated into the sub-culture of the underclass(Carribbeans). Please keep in mind that majority- over 90% of most Carribbean households are single parent homes. Some Nigerians have learnt to "play" the system by voluntarily becoming single parents because it's economically viable and profitable(welfare payments). Soon or later apathy and mindless consumption patterns sets in which breeds hopelessness and avarice in fickle uneducated minds. There is more to it but it's not rocket science to see or predict the future of some of our youths from bad homes living in some council estates/ areas of London. Proximity to like minded youths and families with almost identical aspirations, go a long way in fuelling delinquency/bad behavioural tendencies. Naija Britons cannot escape it if they are unfortunate to have uncaring, "dazzled" and "assimilated" delinquent parents more so if they are from single parent homes.

cap28: Katsumoto u askd why I live here well firstly I was born here and have dual nationality and secndly because the econmc cndtn of nigeria is in freefall and shows no sign of recovry. To make matters worse the averge so called eductd nigerian is too cowardly,selfish and ignrnt to thinnk abt organising a movement tht will lead to the overthrw of the currnt criminl cabal tht r entrnchd in powr.

As is to be expected, the inconsistencies of a faker is becoming more glaring for all to see. Why did you not organise a movement instead of waiting for others to do it for you? If you did what was it called? When were you active? If you fail to submit conclusive proof of an attempt to raise social awareness , I will simply assume you are another "coward" who ran yet remains hypocritical enough to malign others for making the choice you made. The correct line of action to follow your hollow noise would be to join the Army and carry out revolution instead of lamely running away only to now be disturbing folks with your shallow pontifications.

I am therefore here not out of choice but out of necessity and gvn tht I hve a legitimate right to be here I am also entitled to voice my dicontent wth the currnt marginalisatn tht blck ppl like myself xperience in this cntry.

Why won't you share your marginalisation tale with us ? Is it because it is false and a figment of your imagination? You have gotten so comfortable with lying to yourself that your life is wretched because of "marginalisation" the word now rolls off your lying tongue with ease.

Rome as they say was nt built in a day -i hve chsn to use the intrnet as a means of desseminating info to conscious brothrs and sistrs-u my nt like wht u hear bt there r many who do , besides u hve no idea wht I do outside nl.

So-called "conscious brothers and sisters" are mainly losers and paranoid delusional fools like yourself keen to blame others for their lack of success. Look in the mirror to see the cause of your failure and "marginalisation". Yeye loser.

Ur statemnt abt nt cmplaing too much abt the situatn in the uk is typicl of the averge afrcn who will nvr fight for anythg in life but xpct to reap the rewardsof a good life tht someone else laid down their life for. Cn u imagine how things wld hve been in the uk for black pplif the jamaicns had adopted ur stance wen cnfrntd wth racist policeand nationl front fascists? Cn u imagine how dangerous it wld hve been for u to venture beyond the m25 as a black persn let alone try to live beyond londn? Ruminate on tht thought my friend lol!

My friend, shut up. You have been mentioning Jamaicans all over the place. Do you wan't to be one? As if you don't have enough on your plate already with mental illness and the rest.

Given the well-documented struggle of the AA's, Why don't you ask every Nigerian in the USA to bow to their AA neigbhour every morning you lunatic? Why don't you go and kiss the feet of the next caucasian Briton given that their grandfathers stopped Hitler to keep Britain the sovereign nation you are able to live in today? You are such a deranged lunatic and wierdo. Honestly, pity is all you deserve.

Gbawe:
My friend, shut up. You have been mentioning Jamaicans all over the place. Do you wan't to be one? As if you don't have enough on your plate already with mental illness and the rest.

Given the well-documented struggle of the AA's, Why don't you ask every Nigerian in the USA to bow to their AA neigbhour every morning you lunatic? Why don't you go and kiss the feet of the next caucasian Briton given that their grandfathers stopped Hitler to keep Britain the sovereign nation you are able to live in today? You are such a deranged lunatic and wierdo. Honestly, pity is all you deserve.

pay no attention to the vermin.
he functions on a single digit intelligence quotient.
this mindfuck believes without the jamaicans, we wouldn't have the freedom to
walk on the streets of britain.

that alone sums up the fact that cap28 is a human-mutt. a lunatic that was
probably raised in a foster home with no father figure in his life to order his steps.
he's oppressed by the system. with more cojones, this mental handicap would strap bombs
on his torso and hug the next caucasian he meets in elephant & castle underground station.

cap28:

First of all let's get one thiing straight- this "debate” has been abt black pple movg frm innr londn into white dominated enclaves, this is not a debate abt pple in general mvng frm innr londn to the suburbs therefore I think it is pointless of u to make the statement ”pple move frm londn to the exterior for many reasons”.

I was referring to Black people moving to other parts of the country; apologies if I wasn’t clear enough

cap28:

The mistake tht pple like u continue to make is that u actually think u r in the same boat as the average white persn when u r not . Let me explain why, first of all a white person cn move to anywhere in this cntry without fear of being discriminated against in terms of jobs or housing- can a black persn do this? A white persn cn up sticks and move to any cntry in the world and be guaranteed good treatment frm the local pple and decent employment-cn a black persn attempt such? Why then do u equate ur self to someone whose life opportunities r not the same as yrs?
White pple hve an entire support stucture set up to protect. And provide for them wherevr they find themselves in the world - english pple cn immigrate to the us, south afrca, canada new zealand and evn nigeria and still live bettr thn any black persn incldng u so why wld u want foolishly mimic evrythg they do when it is patently obvious tht u r not accorded the same opportunities and safety nets as them.
I therefore thnk it is foolish and misleading to compare the two xperiences.

I see life as a race that I am running on my own. I need to focus on those factors that will ensure that at the end of my life, I will have few regrets. Why should I be concerned about hypothetical scenarios when there are real issues? If it’s truly possible for a White person to move anywhere in the world and get a job as well as receiving acceptance, why would that be my headache if I have what I need in my current situation? Suppose I lived in Newcastle and I had all I wanted in Newcastle.

Secondly, my situation may be slightly different from most on this forum for reasons I won’t go into now but every obstacle I have faced as made me stronger as a person. I took up martial arts because I was different in both Naija and England and had to defend myself. I studied harder for my A levels and in Uni because I knew I wasn’t going to get the same treatment as others. I took up extra courses, skills, and qualifications because I knew I would be at a disadvantage if I didn’t. While you may say the White man has the opportunity to move anywhere, I can also state that I have worked and lived all over, Europe, North and South America, and Asia.

The challenges I faced earlier prepared me for the challenges later in life. One can either get on with it or become bitter. I acknowledge that there is racism in England and the US but there are problems all over the world. My life isn't perfect as no one's life is but at least I keep trying to make the best of it.

cap28:
U talk abt blck families mvg out to the suburbs for the schools but hve u evr askd urself how those schls bcame sought after? Do u thk they just appeared out of nowhere to bcome wht they r today? How come black families can't developtheir own communities like evry othr race of ppl and send their childrn to schls where they will be amongst their own pple instead of placing them in hostile racist envirnmnts where they develp low self esteem and r taught to be ashamed of their race?

Golders green hampstead hendn -these r all jewish enclaves wth good schls but they weren't always like tht-the jewish community workd hard to develop their community and elevate the std of eductn of their ppl they diddnt run off to white enclaves like to try to reap where they didn't sow like gbawe and othr parasites.

Not every one who goes to school where they are a minority develops low self-esteem. Shoot, you can develop that even with your own people. The white folks who are committing suicide are doing it because they are being bullied by their own. Similarly, black folks are bullied by their own kind. Damilola Taylor was not killed by white kids.

There isn't a school in the UK where unsavory language is used against any group.

cap28:

The white folk in essex hve one thing in common wth the whites in surrey and berkshire-they dnt like lvg close to black ppl and wen the chips r down they unite and form a collective front against u the nigerian outsider who they dnt wnt in their community or schools. The reason tht the nigerians hang out in those naija joints is because they r not welcome in white clubs and social cicles, if they cld socialise wth white englsh pple they wld.

Nigerians don’t hangout in white clubs? You need to go out more often. Nigerians may not go to pubs but you will find Naija boys in Kent, Surrey, Essex, Berkshire, etc because Naija boys don’t send. As long as you face your objectives when you get into a club, you should care less for what some others may be thinking. Yoruba people say ‘eni ti oba wo oju iyawo lo ma mo pe o su kun’ meaning it is the person that looks at the bride that will know she is crying. Nigerians are one of the most dynamic set of people you will find anywhere. They will go to Strawberry moons in Maidstone (White), Chasers in Essex, Club Afrique (East African), Players (Naija & Jamo), Troybar in Shoreditch (Jamo) Chinawhite (mixed) and Funky Buddha (upscale) in the West end.

I think the OP is wrong in his comparison of Nigerian gang members in Britain and the US.

gbam

The US is simply too big and diversely populated to be directly compared with Britain

gbam

Also, the population of Nigerians in Britain is probably greater than that of Nigerians in the US. When you have fewer Nigerians in a place greater than 43 times the size of Britain, it is only natural that they won’t make the News as much as their British counterparts.

gbam.


what more can anyone say?


now, can we get back to the thread title.

the op derailed his own topic right from the getgo, and without even using another id to do it.

Katsumoto: .



Nigerians don’t hangout in white clubs? You need to go out more often. Nigerians may not go to pubs but you will find Naija boys in Kent, Surrey, Essex, Berkshire, etc because Naija boys don’t send. As long as you face your objectives when you get into a club, you should care less for what some others may be thinking. Yoruba people say ‘eni ti oba wo oju iyawo lo ma mo pe o su kun’ meaning it is the person that looks at the bride that will know she is crying. Nigerians are one of the most dynamic set of people you will find anywhere. They will go to Strawberry moons in Maidstone (White), Chasers in Essex, Club Afrique (East African), Players (Naija & Jamo), Troybar in Shoreditch (Jamo) Chinawhite (mixed) and Funky Buddha (upscale) in the West end.

Oga mi, what shows you are talking to a certified lunatic more than this ignorant rant

The reason tht the nigerians hang out in those naija joints is because they r not welcome in white clubs and social cicles,

I mentioned it earlier that this madman is not well-adjusted and is actually fighting some sense of rejection. We see undoubted proof here.

Even when I arrived in the UK , as a teenager, slightly over two decades ago, London was already a hub of sublime cosmopolitan clubbing experience. The clubs in the West end back then , as long as R and B united folks, featured all skin colours. It was more about the music and adherrents of the music came from every race. In the West End Slap Harrys was one of the pioneering cosmopolitan joints back then and Bar Rumba that went on for many years. There were so many clubs as well where black, white and green coexisted happily.

Gradually drum and base, garage and jungle came in and clubs went 'hybrid' with multi-rooms feature different sound. Hannover Grand in the West end was another cosmopolitan Shack. There was then the "twice as nice" events and Southport weekenders backed by the likes of Trevor Nelson. It was a great time when folks were united by the music that was not birthed on x-factor. There were simply too many joints where black and white mingled freely. In fact I remember , on my first visit to the USA , thinking how 'backward' New York was in 2001 because segregation and racial tension was so scarily palpable.

For anyone to say what Cap28 says , today, is just complete confirmation of lunacy. I make bold to say there is no London club today a black man cannot go into unless it is completely underground and not advertised i.e no banner outside and invites is by word of mouth alone. Any club openly discriminating, in these days of camera phone recording, will be shut down within hours same as how the racist idiot who too to twitter to racially mock Muamba , the footballer who had heart failure on the pitch, was arrested and jailed quickly. His life is now in tatters. The white trash lady, pasted on youtube, mouthing racist obscenity against others was promptly arraigned in Court. That is how the UK is these day so , even the most hardcore racists have to be 'underground' and very clever with their antics. Even the ultra-exclusive members clubs and hang-outs for rich City lads and footballers, like the Wellington Clubs, have ordinary Pretty hairdresser black girls , the 'toys' of some rich 'ballers', as members let alone all the rich black folks and Arabs enjoying the Capital.

No Club, however powerful, can get away with segregating anyone openly these days. Sadly Cap28 does not get 'updates' in the bunker he locked himself in since 1945. It just suits him , as a deranged hateful creature, to rant as if he is in 1940 Tennessee. This is why he cannot, till now, say anything about himself. There is nothing to reveal. He has spent the last 20 years holed up in a dingy and filthy room. Sad bstard. I still can't believe the fool made that insane comment above about black folks hanging out in Naija joints because they are segregated. Abeg, bros free this madman. you know the score. He is too far gone and an example of the lunatic Soldier still in the bush in 1990, 'fighting', when the war ended in 1945.

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I've always wondered about something. How do they legally justify arresting people for hurling racial insults in the UK and some other European countries? I don't understand it. Granted, they don't have a Bill of Rights there (it's a controversial idea over there for some reason), but don't they have at least one law allowing people to say almost anything they want as long as it doesn't threaten local or national security and doesn't endanger anyone?

Chei! Chineke baba God, See insults!

Chei! Chineke baba God. See insults!

No Club, however powerful, can get away with segregating anyone openly thes ;De days. Sadly Cap28 does not get 'updates' in the bunker he locked himself in since 1945.

I have gotten a headache from laughter

cap28: Katsumoto u askd why I live here well firstly I was born here and have dual nationality and secndly because the econmc cndtn of nigeria is in freefall and shows no sign of recovry. To make matters worse the averge so called eductd nigerian is too cowardly,selfish and ignrnt to thinnk abt organising a movement tht will lead to the overthrw of the currnt criminl cabal tht r entrnchd in powr. I am therefore here not out of choice but out of necessity and gvn tht I hve a legitimate right to be here I am also entitled to voice my dicontent wth the currnt marginalisatn tht blck ppl like myself xperience in this cntry.

Rome as they say was nt built in a day -i hve chsn to use the intrnet as a means of desseminating info to conscious brothrs and sistrs-u my nt like wht u hear bt there r many who do , besides u hve no idea wht I do outside nl.

Ur statemnt abt nt cmplaing too much abt the situatn in the uk is typicl of the averge afrcn who will nvr fight for anythg in life but xpct to reap the rewardsof a good life tht someone else laid down their life for. Cn u imagine how things wld hve been in the uk for black pplif the jamaicns had adopted ur stance wen cnfrntd wth racist policeand nationl front fascists? Cn u imagine how dangerous it wld hve been for u to venture beyond the m25 as a black persn let alone try to live beyond londn? Ruminate on tht thought my friend lol!

That is such a copout.
You wouldn't be in Somalia now if you were born in Somalia and had dual nationality. Your post alludes to the fact that you believe that the UK offers more opportunity than your home country.

Nothing wrong in voicing your discontentment with the marginalisation that exists in the UK, it's just that you feel so strongly about it that one just wonders. But its all good.

Katsumoto. I would like to believe tht u r able to comprehend simple sentences written in the english language - where in my post did I say that nigerians don't hangout in white nightclubs ? I said they r not welcome there - there is a difference btwn not being welcome in a place and being blatantly banned frm going to a plce - if u r not welcome in a place u may be allowed in but treated shabbilly by the doormen,bar staff etc for example church rat gbawe may try to get into an expensive club like the wellington club but the doormen will take one look at his scrawny face and jst say sumthg like sorry its a members only club,that way they avoid being accused of discriminating and dim wit gbawe will be fooled into thinkng tht he wasn't alloed in because he s not a member, of course church rat gbawe is too s.tpid to understnd tht racism is no longr blatant and in ur face ,a white ppl r clverer thn tht ,they knw the law and the implictns therfore they r subtle wth their racism. This sort of subtle racism also happns in pubs and workng mens clubs in predominantly white workng class enclaves - do me a favour taake a trip down to a white run pub or club in mill wall and then come back and tell me how u were treated in there lol!