frosbel:

talking about insults, I guess you are referring to alexeo and co, I only state my point with logic and reason, if people cannot think outside what tradition has told them, it is their fault, they have to live with the consequences of preaching an erroneous gospel .

alexleo: @enilove,
again here is another place where soul is seperated from the spirit and body.-

And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. (1 Thessalonians 5:23 ).

enilove: For Prosbel.

These are answers to your questions:
1
Where is there mentioned of a seperate entity called spirit which resides in man?

Job 32:8 " But there is a spirit in man: & the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding".
I hope you can now see where it is written.

enilove:
2
If the spirit,which in your opinion is an entity in its own right,goes upward, where does d soul go to?

Psalm 16:10 "For thou will not leave my soul in hell: neither will thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption." This is to tell you that the soul of some will go to hell and remain in hell ,when someone dies.
For the righteous, their souls will go to heaven and be with God. Also remember Proverb 15:24 " The way of life is above to the wise ,that he might depart from hell beneath.

enilove:
3


What is the difference btw a soul and a spirit.?

A soul is a person's total self .It is also the active and essential part of your spirit being that differentiates you from others.
The spirit is the breath of God in us.The invisible force that keeps the body and soul to function as one and connected to God.

enilove:
4
Why does Genesis omit d a/c of the creation of a separate spirit and soul ,instead plainly states that man is dust with life of God in him?

God is a spirit ,He does not need to create what He has in His possession. Genesis 2:7 "And d Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground,& breathed into his nostrils the breath of life,and a man became a living soul." That breath of life from God is the Spirit of God. So,how do you expect God to create what He has already?

enilove:
A man is soul even when he is dead,it is the flesh and bones that would decay.His identity ,the soul, will either be in hell or be with God in heaven. David said this in Psalm 86:13" For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell".Note ! There is nothing like lowest grave.Graves are all of the same depth.The same Six feet.

enilove:
This is to advice you to take the story of Lazarus ,narrated by Jesus ,as true life story and not a parable.

Ken4Christ:
Scriptures that teaches on the reality of hell as a place of torment where unbelievers are held in custody until the final judgment day are so overwhelming that no one can deny. In my next post, I will download all the scriptures that talks about hell and the source language of the translation. No honest person will go through these scriptures and continue to say there is no hell. if frosbel is honest why didn't answer enilove question.

Ken4Christ:
The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath. (Proverbs 15:24)

Ken4Christ:

Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. (Proverbs 23:14)

Ken4Christ:

The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. (Psalms 9:17)
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Ken4Christ:

These verses alone conveys the massage.

frosbel, comment on this three verses. If hell is grave, do you need to beat a child to deliver the child from grave?

If hell is grave, why did the psalmist say, it is the wicked that shall be turn into hell.

You see that you have a problem. You only quote those verse that appears to justify your stand while ignoring others that contradicts your stand.

Believers, keep the faith. Don't let anyone deceive you.

alexleo: @enilove,
again here is another place where soul is seperated from the spirit and body.-

And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. (1 Thessalonians 5:23 ).

Ken4Christ: Please, all those that believe in the reality of hell, do all you can to enlighten people on this subject before the devil will continue to use people like frosbel to confuse unstable people. He is an agent of darkness disguised as a minister of righteousness. We should all remember that this are the last days.

Scriptures that teaches on the reality of hell as a place of torment where unbelievers are held in custody until the final judgment day are so overwhelming that no one can deny. In my next post, I will download all the scriptures that talks about hell and the source language of the translation. No honest person will go through these scriptures and continue to say there is no hell. if frosbel is honest why didn't answer enilove question.

The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath. (Proverbs 15:24)

Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. (Proverbs 23:14)

The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. (Psalms 9:17)


These verses alone conveys the massage.

frosbel, comment on this three verses. If hell is grave, do you need to beat a child to deliver the child from grave?

If hell is grave, why did the psalmist say, it is the wicked that shall be turn into hell.

You see that you have a problem. You only quote those verse that appears to justify your stand while ignoring others that contradicts your stand.

Believers, keep the faith. Don't let anyone deceive you.

ijawkid:


Paul here was referring to the spirit,soul, and body of the composite christian church and not the souls,body and spirit of individuals..............

1 Corinthians 12:12-13
New International Version (NIV)
12 Just as a body, though one, has many parts,
but all its many parts form one body, so it is
with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized by[a]
one Spirit so as to form one body—whether
Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were
all given the one Spirit to drink.


Paul was not in any way defining man to be tripartite but was referring to the welfare of the church(a composite body).......

ijawkid:


Paul here was referring to the spirit,soul, and body of the composite christian church and not the souls,body and spirit of individuals..............

1 Corinthians 12:12-13
New International Version (NIV)
12 Just as a body, though one, has many parts,
but all its many parts form one body, so it is
with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized by[a]
one Spirit so as to form one body—whether
Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were
all given the one Spirit to drink.


Paul was not in any way defining man to be tripartite but was referring to the welfare of the church(a composite body).......

frosbel2: ^^

arrogance is not a virtue !

alexleo:

You sound so unreasonable. I stated how I feel about his presentations and I stand by it. You can go hit your head on the wall if you care to.

alexleo:
Your bible explanations are useless and lame to me and I don't care about any of it at all. Thanks.

true2god: Its quite amazing wen i see pple blatantly twisting the bible to promote a false doctrine frm an organization.

Lets look at this scenario: i am lecturer in a university and after lecture i told my students 'may God bless u and protect u'. Frm ur analysis above, Paul was actually saying 'may God bless and protect the school' and not the students.

The problem is still the scrpited response from the watchtower passed down to the publishers as a default response to certain question; and dats not good at all cos its open to acceptin evrything whether true or false without independent jugdement. To put it clearer to u, Paul was praying for the xtains and not the 'composite church' as u cunningly and technically put it.

Man is composed of the spirit, soul and ur physical body (u can call it a container dat houses ur spirit and soul). Dats the major reason while u r asleep and in dreams ur body (or vessel) is lifeless while u can still engage in 'normal' activities as if u r in a phyical world (but in dreams).

This is just to point out the fact the man is made of the spirit, soul and body as put right by Paul the apostle. Dnt twist or misinterprete.

true2god: Its quite amazing wen i see pple blatantly twisting the bible to promote a false doctrine frm an organization.

Lets look at this scenario: i am lecturer in a university and after lecture i told my students 'may God bless u and protect u'. Frm ur analysis above, Paul was actually saying 'may God bless and protect the school' and not the students.

The problem is still the scrpited response from the watchtower passed down to the publishers as a default response to certain question; and dats not good at all cos its open to acceptin evrything whether true or false without independent jugdement. To put it clearer to u, Paul was praying for the xtains and not the 'composite church' as u cunningly and technically put it.

Man is composed of the spirit, soul and ur physical body (u can call it a container dat houses ur spirit and soul). Dats the major reason while u r asleep and in dreams ur body (or vessel) is lifeless while u can still engage in 'normal' activities as if u r in a phyical world (but in dreams).

This is just to point out the fact the man is made of the spirit, soul and body as put right by Paul the apostle. Dnt twist or misinterprete.

frosbel2:


Who are you to twist scripture to suit your tradition.

The account of creation from the beginning says in very clear terms that MAN was made from the DUST of the earth. It was the breath of life that GOD put into him, that made him a living soul - gen 2:7

What is wrong with you people.

frosbel2:


Who are you to twist scripture to suit your tradition.

The account of creation from the beginning says in very clear terms that MAN was made from the DUST of the earth. It was the breath of life that GOD put into him, that made him a living soul - gen 2:7

What is wrong with you people.

true2god: The issue here is that its diffiucult to knw wat u belief as a person, using the bible as a yardstick. Anyway i hope u see my post, or u read it comprehensivly before ur comment cos u sound as if u want to quote me before making ur comment.

As i said ealier, and i repeat, man is composed of the body, soul and the spirit as taught by paul the apostle and dats not to nullify that God breath upon Adam and he became the first living soul (cos ther is yet a conjugal relationship for human reproduction hence God direct involvement in creating the 1st man).

U can choose to belief wat u like, but dnt ridicle the bible as usual.

frosbel2:

Wow, now we can see the angry spirit behind this sadistic doctrine, may you be delivered

frosbel2:


Who are you to twist scripture to suit your tradition.

The account of creation from the beginning says in very clear terms that MAN was made from the DUST of the earth. It was the breath of life that GOD put into him, that made him a living soul - gen 2:7

What is wrong with you people.

true2god: The issue here is that its diffiucult to knw wat u belief as a person, using the bible as a yardstick. Anyway i hope u see my post, or u read it comprehensivly before ur comment cos u sound as if u want to quote me before making ur comment.

As i said ealier, and i repeat, man is composed of the body, soul and the spirit as taught by paul the apostle and dats not to nullify that God breath upon Adam and he became the first living soul (cos ther is yet a conjugal relationship for human reproduction hence God direct involvement in creating the 1st man).

U can choose to belief wat u like, but dnt ridicle the bible as usual.

alexleo:
THIS IS RATHER FOR YOU.

frosbel2:


So you have lost your comportment and resorted to abuse and insults.

You need to calm down .

frosbel2:


So you have lost your comportment and resorted to abuse and insults.

You need to calm down .

frosbel2:


Let us start from the beginning and then we can talk about what Paul said.

Show me where in the account of creation God formed a separate spirit and soul and put into a separate body ?


I wait for your answer.

[quote author=true2god]The problem is ur trying to drive ur opinion on pple whether true or false and u never wish to learn. U dnt believ anyone put u thru' wat u dnt understand. Thats too egoistic and full of pride. The same pride and ego dat made the devil to fall.

Back to ur question, 'God breath into a man and he became a living soul'. Thats the Bible truth. The bible didnt not say God also breath into animals as well to become 'a living souls'. Thats where the peculiarity of man comes to play. Cos God breath (spirit) activates man at creation.

Take a phone, as an example, without a Sim card, the phone is useless. The same thing applicable to the body, without a soul and spirit its useless

The same breath we breath daily keeps the spirit alive in the body. We the breath stops our spirit goes back to God (check stephen's statement at his point of death: 'lord acept my spirit', Jesus at the point of death said, 'into thine hand i commit my spirit). Compare with with paul prayer for the xtain congregation 'may God bless ur spirit, soul and body'

I would rather u continue with ur anti-church drive such as tithing, performing miracles, church building projects etc which u can do well. On dis topic u get rit wrong bro, just that u wont learn.

Ken4Christ: I can see that frosbel truly has a ministry to deceive those that wants to be deceived. Even when he sees the truth, he denies it. He wants to win an argument at all cost. He has a Phd in scripture twisting.

May God deliver simple souls from his hand in Jesus Name, Amen.