Shollypopz:
IT WASN'T MEANT FOR YOU TO GET!!.......I THINK I MADE IT PRETTY OBVIOUS WHO MY COMMENT WAS DIRECTED AT!!

This thread started with trying to prove Kandii and Ogugua ignorant! Like really, do i hv to start quoting ppl mtcheeeww

DaRapture:

Damn, that's too bad. I missed out because my DaRapture account was put on suspention for posting too many pics in the African-American beauty thread. These mods are a trip round here. So they were in that thread talking ish about us again? Damn, that's just my kind of thread too, I'm pissed now that I missed it. I'm fittin to go AKATA up in this biatch now.

Shollypopz:
what d f*ck are you talking about
u are one silly woman! mtcheew

MsDarkSkin:

lmao!!

right...just saw "people" and from my understanding that is plural.
so my bad...i guess.

Mrs.Chima:


Then what the Bleep were YOU TALKING ABOUT?

You are one silly trick. Bleep you.

Mrs.Chima:


I hear you. My husband said similar to what you said. He said he will make sure that all of his children are proud to be Igbos regardless of what people think of Igbos.

He is already quoting a bride price on Baby C and she ain't even had her period yet! Smh.

Mrs.Chima:


I hear you. My husband said similar to what you said. He said he will make sure that all of his children are proud to be Igbos regardless of what people think of Igbos.

He is already quoting a bride price on Baby C and she ain't even had her period yet! Smh.

Mrs.Chima:


Then stop posting excessive pictures.

You didn't miss shit...just a bunch of negros debating on whom is better than whom. If you do not use the English words correctly...then you are unintelligent. It is funny because English isn't any of their first language.

You did better watching the paint dry.

Mrs.Chima:


Then stop posting excessive pictures.

You didn't miss shit...just a bunch of negros debating on whom is better than whom. If you do not use the English words correctly...then you are unintelligent. It is funny because English isn't any of their first language.

You did better watching the paint dry.

Blyss:

Nah, they were just mad because I was slaughtering the comp. relentlessly. Oh, so they were on this bone again, hummm? Were you around during my "HERO" days, Mrs.Chima? Back then, there were loads of us AA on here debating with some of these same people, and others who no longer post here about this same issue and many other more intellectual ones comparable to it. Drusilla, Sista, Girl22, Mandingo and several more AA posters were on here holding it down for the AA people who back then it seemed as though it was a daily routine to be targeted in threads all over this site. But I'm kind of a contriversial person, so I loved it.

Mrs.Chima:


Royal did not create this thread....I did. There is nothing in my original post bearing Kandi and Oguga's names. The thread question is would there ever be an universal unity with black folks? Do you see Kandi and Oguga's name in the title?

No, you do not. People is plural and person is singular so if you have an issue with Royal's statement then you need to be direct. Use that Somalian monkey's example...he didn't need a crowd to speak his mind and he stood by it alone.

Now you can run over there and tell that.

Mrs.Chima:

Again...well to do means having the ability to but not wealthy. If the family does not work nor acquire money there is no way they can send their children to school. Real talk. My definitely of poor is BROKE and not able to provide the means for whatever it is needed.

Many of my classmates in college were African students and I am still friends with them today. I have helped with many of their issues so I know what I am talking about.

I got my sources directly from the HORSE'S MOUTH as I said before. I don't take chewed up bullshit like many chatters on Nairaland does about specific people, place, or thing.

PhysicsQED:

As I said before, if you meant "Somalia poor", then you may have a point and I might actually agree.

But then again your point is kind of meaningless because every other group besides Africans that comes to America and puts their kids in school isn't "Somalia poor" as well and black Americans aren't experiencing Somalian levels of poverty either.

Truly and utterly broke people don't immigrate to America legally and most legal immigrants of all backgrounds - not just Africans - are not truly broke at all (and are not refugees or people being granted asylum, either).

Royal-VII:
Lol those nairaland Ladies wanted no parts of Debating Royal

Only Sholly had the courage to show up, The rest viewed like cowards on the guest list.

This isn't Usa Vs Nigeria/Africa

This is Proficiency VS Inability

If you Write "Americans Are Poorly Educated", or "Americans Speak Bad English", "Americans are Lazy always Blaming White Men"

Come Debate, and Let's see

Because Last time i checked, those same stereotypes were Applied and inappropriately attached to Africans x10,000

I think some of our "African" brother's and Sisters are Unaware of their Own stereotypes placed on them by the world

Ill Be Happy To Educate if need be


One of the Great Ironies Of World History is that, Black Americans of the New World are Children of the Black Africans who Sold Us away to be Slaves

Yet

Ironically 400 years later the descendants of those Black African's, their African "Children" are now "jealous" because we do not have to "Work" as Hard as Our Brothers and Sisters back "home"(lol) do, because of the endless opportunities and luxuries afforded to us by freedom and wealth

They are Jealous of Americans because Life is much easier over here and Hard Work is not needed to achieve outstanding Lifestyle, Most of Our Sisters and Brothers back "home"(lol) are "slaving" just to survive and maintain survival.

So their "children" call us Lazy, ....LoL I find that Funny, Blame Karma, Blame Ya "Parents".

Royal-VII:
Lol those nairaland Ladies wanted no parts of Debating Royal

Only Sholly had the courage to show up, The rest viewed like cowards on the guest list.

This isn't Usa Vs Nigeria/Africa

This is Proficiency VS Inability

If you Write "Americans Are Poorly Educated", or "Americans Speak Bad English", "Americans are Lazy always Blaming White Men"

Come Debate, and Let's see

Because Last time i checked, those same stereotypes were Applied and inappropriately attached to Africans x10,000

I think some of our "African" brother's and Sisters are Unaware of their Own stereotypes placed on them by the world

Ill Be Happy To Educate if need be


One of the Great Ironies Of World History is that, Black Americans of the New World are Children of the Black Africans who Sold Us away to be Slaves

Yet

Ironically 400 years later the descendants of those Black African's, their African "Children" are now "jealous" because we do not have to "Work" as Hard as Our Brothers and Sisters back "home"(lol) do, because of the endless opportunities and luxuries afforded to us by freedom and wealth

They are Jealous of Americans because Life is much easier over here and Hard Work is not needed to achieve outstanding Lifestyle, Most of Our Sisters and Brothers back "home"(lol) are "slaving" just to survive and maintain survival.

So their "children" call us Lazy, ....LoL I find that Funny, Blame Karma, Blame Ya "Parents".

anonymous6: A tough one, but I think it depends really. People need to remember that this concept/philosophy never existed with Blacks in the first place, along with many races. However I feel there will be Universal Unity amongst Black Africans due to economics or economically but with Black diasporians? I doubt it especially with African americans but possibly with Black Caribbeans, because the views about how to move forward between the communities are different, which is understandable because the issues the communities face are different. I feel when it comes to racism all blacks worldwide sympathize but after that it goes out the window. This debate is to late quite frankly, Africans have many issues facing their community that it is just not a priority since what Black africans face in their country is different from african americans. Despite that that doesn't mean their can never be a distant understanding eventually amongst the communities though but unity in general, I don't know.

Despite that though never say never because a few african countries are doing out reach programs with africans americans like Ghana, South Africa, Liberia and etc but both groups go through a wake up call when they finally meet because most Black african citizens of their countries treat them as Americans while what african americans expect from africans is not what the receive in return, so that is a little gray. Although that is the case I feel it is a good step though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jFviE37E2Y

At the end of the day though I don't think it is possible among black africans and Black diasporians because most black africans don't hold that philosophy of world wide black unity because racism is not what they face in their homelands(except South Africa) but poverty, tribalism(more so in other countries then others), corruption NOT Racism, so it is not a priority for them. When it comes to Black diasporians world wide Black unity is a philosophy they hold very dear, especially Africans americans(excluding Black Latina's since they don't care). I believe in the future their will be Black African unity(NOT united states of AFRICA) when it comes to economic development and etc but worldwide black unity is a stretch. This video brings up some points about that(I don't agree with everything entirely he says but he does bring up some great points).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSYpAD5iipc&feature=fvsr

The example blacks need to follow is fix your backyard before fixing others and it shouldn't be by force; so African americans need to concentrate on their community solely to progress their community, Black africans need to start progressing their own countries then start helping other Black african countries, and that goes with Black Caribbeans as well in their communities. That doesn't mean communities Blacks from different communities can't converse with one another but after that it shouldn't be forced.

New world blacks and old world blacks just see things differently, so I doubt it. I feel economic development shouldn't be the focus with Black africans and Black Caribbeans, not universal Black unity

Mrs.Chima:


I read all that you said and I hear you.

You can have 20 million of Africans working together to build a bridge so it is easy to cross from one side to the next but if you have 10 million ignorant niggas on the side talking about they are tired and throwing sand in your garri....how can a bridge be built?

The same thing goes for Black Americas, Black Brits, and Carribs. There are thousands of Blacks in America and Islands working together but constantly have to fight ignorant niggas at the same time. They are working harder to bring progression in their communities the same thing for Africans.

How do you expect Africans to work together when they can't even spend a day without worrying about who is Igbo, Hausa, Yoruba, Ashanti, Zulu, and Bantu?

Many Black Americans complaining about the "white man" when many Africans complaining about whom is the lightest! Really?

The question is....do anyone even like themselves enough to move forward?

Mrs.Chima:
Ms. Darkskin sis....

Do me a favor....ask your boyfriend...what were the requirements of obtaining a student visa or do he know any Africans that obtained their American student visa from their home country and ask if they just came over with a dollar and nothing else?

Thanks. I got mofos thinking I am making up shit.

PhysicsQED:

lmao, where are you guys getting this stuff from?

But I guess I'd need you to define "poor" first before just laughing this claim off.

If you mean Somalia poor, then you may have a point.

Mrs.Chima:
Ms. Darkskin sis....

Do me a favor....ask your boyfriend...what were the requirements of obtaining a student visa or do he know any Africans that obtained their American student visa from their home country and ask if they just came over with a dollar and nothing else?

Thanks. I got mofos thinking I am making up shit.

nnenna.1:


I honestly don't know either. Most Africans who make it here comprise of struggling folk who seek greener pastures abroad.

And they make up the majority of folks in the elite schools. Case in point: the Nigerian kid who got graduated with the highest GPA at Johns Hopkins.

nnenna.1:
@ It's actually not so much the lack of unity as it is uniting when unity would serve as a general benefit.

Europe comprises of different countries and different groups but they prove to be much more efficient with coming together when it suits them. Heck,you even can see this with how the US/Europe relationship is strong.

PhysicsQED:

Why do you keep talking about student visas? I never commented on the student visa stuff because it wasn't what I was talking about in the first place.

In the original post, you simply claimed that an African student had to be from a "well to do" family to be schooling in America, which is simply false. End of.

nnenna.1:
[size=44pt]Student visas are not the only way for immigrants to come to the US.

Ever heard of green card lotteries, refugee immigration? [/size]

Come on...you guys are reaching here with the whole elite African thing. Not to say that education in the top schools ever did anything for the lay African in Africa at the end of the day though.

PhysicsQED:

The Africans here are from different social strata. Some are "well to do", some are middle class, and some are from a poorer background. Reading claims that every African student in an American university is "well to do" after seeing direct evidence to the contrary multiple times with my own eyes is a bit unsettling because it makes me think people are falling for this idea of only the few "rich elite" blacks being able to do well abroad.