Despicable-VII:


When you study "Race" you will notice the races of people who look the most alike share the most Racial Harmony

Like say, The Chinese....East Asians

Much more of a BrotherHood Bond Than "Blacks"

Ask yourself Why........

anonymous6:

Cosign 100%, if you go to Harvard, johns Hopkins University, and etc many educated Nigerians and other africans attending there have doctorate, engineering and etc degrees and many of them came from poor backgrounds, and the rest are actually from middle class backgrounds, not to many from wealthy backgrounds.

Mrs.Chima:


I may have missed something but there is nothing said on this thread from my recollection that Africans student came from wealthy families. Well to do means having the ability to obtain...i.e. work, start a business etc.

Where would one get the funds beside working or family support? I have never met an African student came over with just a hand full of rice and their good looks.

ezeagu:

Pay attention to even just East Asian news and you'd see that there's no "racial harmony" between east Asians. Yes, they come together in the diaspora and form associations to maximise their presence and strength, and they have a cordial relationship a lot of the times, but I can assure you that there is no "racial harmony" between a Japanese and a Korean or Han Chinese for example or even a Han Chinese and a muslim Uighur of West China, in fact it's the opposite. Here's a few reasons why:

Koreans who have been in Japan several generations are not seen as Japanese, they are treated like outcasts like every other non Japanese including Chinese, there's even tension between the Japanese and the small Korean minority in Japan, search videos on Youtube and you will see angry Japanese blaming Koreans for masking under the Japanese identity to commit crimes (like many West Africans do with Nigerian nationality when drug trafficking/fraud). Japan and China largely ignore each other and Japan sees China as an old relic and China actually sees Japan just a little bit short of an enemy because of WWII. Did you know Japan invaded northern China in WWII massacring Chinese men and raping Chinese women, many of who have illegitimate descendants in China? Did you know Korea (united) and the Philippines were colonised and occupied by the Japanese which still causes tensions today?

There's even a problem with some Asians when they marry from another country/culture. Look at the diaspora and you will see the Asians working together are usually the generation after their migrant parents. So there's no such thing as a "racial harmony", they don't even really see themselves as the same "race". They only cooperate which is what I think Africans should do instead of forcing some kind of false sense of unity that has never even existed since Shaka Zulu was raping and pillaging everyone around him to Nigeria dropping bombs on their "citizens".

Co-operation not "unity".

ezeagu:

Pay attention to even just East Asian news and you'd see that there's no "racial harmony" between east Asians. Yes, they come together in the diaspora and form associations to maximise their presence and strength, and they have a cordial relationship a lot of the times, but I can assure you that there is no "racial harmony" between a Japanese and a Korean or Han Chinese for example or even a Han Chinese and a muslim Uighur of West China, in fact it's the opposite. Here's a few reasons why:

Koreans who have been in Japan several generations are not seen as Japanese, they are treated like outcasts like every other non Japanese including Chinese, there's even tension between the Japanese and the small Korean minority in Japan, search videos on Youtube and you will see angry Japanese blaming Koreans for masking under the Japanese identity to commit crimes (like many West Africans do with Nigerian nationality when drug trafficking/fraud). Japan and China largely ignore each other and Japan sees China as an old relic and China actually sees Japan just a little bit short of an enemy because of WWII. Did you know Japan invaded northern China in WWII massacring Chinese men and raping Chinese women, many of who have illegitimate descendants in China? Did you know Korea (united) and the Philippines were colonised and occupied by the Japanese which still causes tensions today?

There's even a problem with some Asians when they marry from another country/culture. Look at the diaspora and you will see the Asians working together are usually the generation after their migrant parents. So there's no such thing as a "racial harmony", they don't even really see themselves as the same "race". They only cooperate which is what I think Africans should do instead of forcing some kind of false sense of unity that has never even existed since Shaka Zulu was raping and pillaging everyone around him to Nigeria dropping bombs on their "citizens".

Co-operation not "unity".

Despicable-VII:


Like say, The Chinese....East Asians

Much more of a BrotherHood Bond[b] Than "Blacks"[/b]

Royal-VII:

Mrs.Chima:


South Korea and North Korea can't get along to survive but I BET if they were a team they would cooperate like a mofo.

Why can't other BLACK TRIBES/COMMUNITIES?

anonymous6:

In Ghana the tribes are getting along but it wasn't because of the obvious but because the former President of Jerry Rawlings killed corruption to a extent in the country(by killing some heads of state).

When it comes to Nigeria, it is because of corruption and religious nonsense(Hausa); if those two areas are corrected the tribal issues would disappear gradually.

When it comes to black communities well I feel they are getting along in their own way to a extent, especially among black africans, for example the Ghana vs. Nigeria you rarely hear this besides online in forums unless it involves football( or soccer).

Mrs.Chima:


In order to cooperate...you need to unite right? Unite means to come together....why is it difficult for colored folks to "unite" despite differences?

We really can't blame what the past did but we can control where our future ends.

Blyss:

You have to qualify for and obtain the student visa while still back home in your native nation. In many cases, you'd need an American based sponsor, most get the school they're attending to do that, but even that's not enough, you have to in some convince a caseworker that you're a trustworthy person who intends on returning back home, and as an unmarried, wide eyed youthful student, that is a very difficult thing to convince someone of, with the acception of if YOUR FAMILY IS WELL OFF, YOUR FAMILY IS IN POLITICS, YOUR FAMILY IS IN SOME WAY WELL GROUNDED IN YOUR NATION ENOUGH SO THAT IT"LL BE TO YOUR BENIFIT TO RETURN HOME, AKA they aint gonna give no broke azz Africans a student visa. And they back this policy, with astanomicle fees to process their papers, in which run in the thousands of $, so high that your average African could not afford it, only the ones with well off families. Is that the answer you were looking for Sis?

ezeagu:

Ghana does not have multiple major ethnic groups tussling for power at the center like in the case of Nigeria, that is why there is more harmony. The Ghana identiy is based on the Akan who make up half of the country. When you think of Ghana you think of Kente and the Ashanti kingship.

Mrs.Chima:


In order to cooperate...you need to unite right? Unite means to come together....why is it difficult for colored folks to "unite" despite differences?

We really can't blame what the past did but we can control where our future ends.

You see, I came from a diverse family background, was born in europe and grew up in 3 continents. I was not brought up by my parents to discriminate against other black nationals. However, I must say that I experienced alot of discrimination in america from black americans both on the east coast and on the west coast who said deragatory things about my African ethnicity, my accent and the likes. I lived in New York City for years and went to college there (from my freshman year all the way up to grad school). I remember vividly as an undergrad back then, when each time we the African students participated in classroom discussions, the black american students will begin to giggle/chuckle like they got a feather stuck up their arse. I thought to myself "look at these salupries!" lol. Ironically, the white american students didn't laugh at us.

stillwater:

So true. Many Africans would tell you this. And it still becomes rocket science to them when you start associating more with White people that have shown you more respect than the black American.

stillwater:

So true. Many Africans would tell you this. And it still becomes rocket science to them when you start associating more with White people that have shown you more respect than the black American.

Despicable-VII:


Explain the Bold.

Where would Black Unity serve as a General Benefit.

How do you Unite Something that Has no Definitive meaning.

@The Us/Europe Relationship being strong(Mainly US/UK)

It is worth Noting That in the Animal Kingdom living organisms who are classified as having the most diversity do not get along.

~Felidae~ are a good example of this

Humans are much Like Animals, In fact pretty much the same.

The more Diverse a Group, the Less they get along.

Whites on average are Less Diverse than "Blacks"

Our own so called Diversity is what makes us Beautiful, but also tears us Apart.

The Diversity of Whites is not as Wide Ranged as "Blacks"

Therefor More Social Acceptable to "BrotherHood"...and Family United Structure

...Like...

....Say...

Elephants.

Or

~Elephantidae~

Have you seen the social Structure and Unity of Elephants?...It's Amazing.

When you study "Race" you will notice the races of people who look the most alike share the most Racial Harmony

Like say, The Chinese....East Asians

Much more of a BrotherHood Bond Than "Blacks"

Ask yourself Why........

Mrs.Chima:


[size=44pt]Duh![/size] You are late. Ms. Darkskin lectured about it.

Royal-VII:
Nationalism And Political Disputes are what drives other races apart, that is common

A difference in Political Ideals

Policy Principals.

This is common among any group of Humans Inhabiting a block of Land...

"Blacks" Not only have these problems mentioned above^...

They also fall victim to separatism ideology, based on a myriad of false principals and closeted prejudice agenda

It is in our Genetics to be separatist, All Humans

The Problem Is...

Because of our Diversity and Differences we continue to fraction ourselves off into smaller and smaller groups

Constant Division equals Constant Dividing

Our Diversity helps Breed to the already inherited separatism that we are born with as Human Beings.

Now add all these problems....^

Plus Religious Separation ..

Plus Skin Tone Separation..

Plus Tribe/ethnic Separation..

Plus Linguistic Separation....

Plus Nationality Separation........

Plus Sesuality Separation.........

All this Adds up to "Blacks" not ever having a chance of Coming together as a United Party.

It sounds good in Theory but it could never work....


Now just for conversation purposes, say we did come together....What do we do next? Go to War?....lol

What would we do, even if we were United?

Until You get the European, Asian,and American Man Drills out of your African Soil and stealing all of "your" resources Brotherhood won't mean a damn thing.

A united "Race" without Resources is Useless anyway.

They will not give up the Resources without a "Fight"...

We all know who would win that War....

stillwater:

So true. Many Africans would tell you this. And it still becomes rocket science to them when you start associating more with White people that have shown you more respect than the black American.

nnenna.1:
As to why African Americans and Africans have a divide. Others have stated something similar to what I am about to write, but here goes.

I don't care what anyone says, this division is largely caused by African Americans who have been fed the concept of a racial hierarchy with them seemingly being on top of native Africans.

This is the reason why they are initially very scornful of the Africans they meet - they think that they are "better" by virtue of living in the western world for longer. Many of the Africans who develop prejudice with regards to African Americans do so as a result of negative experiences of this kind.

Of course you have Africans who are prejudiced against African Americans solely because of media bias and negative stereotypes. This is wrong, I admit.

However for the most part, Africans in Africa typically have a positive mindset when thinking of African Americans, largely as a result of Hip Hop, Pop Culture, the civil rights movement, etc.

Until they immigrate to the states, of course, only to realize what the Average African American thinks of them.

nnenna.1:
As to why African Americans and Africans have a divide. Others have stated something similar to what I am about to write, but here goes.

I don't care what anyone says, this division is largely caused by African Americans who have been fed the concept of a racial hierarchy with them seemingly being on top of native Africans.

This is the reason why they are initially very scornful of the Africans they meet - they think that they are "better" by virtue of living in the western world for longer. Many of the Africans who develop prejudice with regards to African Americans do so as a result of negative experiences of this kind.

Of course you have Africans who are prejudiced against African Americans solely because of media bias and negative stereotypes. This is wrong, I admit.

However for the most part, Africans in Africa typically have a positive mindset when thinking of African Americans, largely as a result of Hip Hop, Pop Culture, the civil rights movement, etc.

Until they immigrate to the states, of course, only to realize what the Average African American thinks of them.

ezeagu:

I actually believe the tension is more about them descending from slaves who have lost all their culture and have nowhere on this planet they can point to as home. There's a resentment when they see Africans doing okay for themselves when they haven't been through what their community has been through, and then there's what you said.

ezeagu:

I actually believe the tension is more about them descending from slaves who have lost all their culture and have nowhere on this planet they can point to as home. There's a resentment when they see Africans doing okay for themselves when they haven't been through what their community has been through, and then there's what you said.

nnenna.1:
As to why African Americans and Africans have a divide. Others have stated something similar to what I am about to write, but here goes.

I don't care what anyone says, this division is largely caused by African Americans who have been fed the concept of a racial hierarchy with them seemingly being on top of native Africans.

This is the reason why they are initially very scornful of the Africans they meet - they think that they are "better" by virtue of living in the western world for longer. Many of the Africans who develop prejudice with regards to African Americans do so as a result of negative experiences of this kind.

Of course you have Africans who are prejudiced against African Americans solely because of media bias and negative stereotypes. This is wrong, I admit.

However for the most part, Africans in Africa typically have a positive mindset when thinking of African Americans, largely as a result of Hip Hop, Pop Culture, the civil rights movement, etc.

Until they immigrate to the states, of course, only to realize what the Average African American thinks of them.

nnenna.1:


Your argument was going nice until the East Asian part. If you're conversant with East Asian history and diplomatic relations you will realize that East Asians are far from being truly united.

They ARE very good with "mutually beneficial" unity when they need larger numbers against much more external forces.