Boomark:


Exodus 6:3 NWT
3 And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty, but with regard to my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them.

Exodus 34:14 NWT
14 You must not bow down to another god, for Jehovah is known for requiring exclusive devotion. Yes, he is a God who requires exclusive devotion.

Exodus 83:18 NWT
May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth.

All these scriptures align and shows that the name of God is JEHOVAH.

Now quote your own to show that the name of God is JEALOUS in all these scriptures. Quote and use the same version of the bible.

I want the world see this MightySparrow that doesn't know anything. He has resorted to insulting me because what he felt he knew has been rendered useless by me with just 3 scriptures.

I wonder if most people here are just agents of Muslim or atheist group who don't know anything and would not accept the truth. They are not here to defend the word of God but to insult those who are making effort to teach them what they don't know.

He finds it difficult to quote just 3 scriptures to defend his belief. It very shameful. I slayed the lies he has been believing all his life with just 3 scriptures.

Someone who claim that his job here is to debunk lies and hypocrisy, has now resorted to insults due to frustration after I rendered him jobless with these scriptures.

His new signature should be, "Here to insult people who frustrate me."

I am Boomark of God. The slayer of frustrated ignorant men who don't know anything.

MightySparrow:



Governing Body has replaced your brain with pap.

Mr Good and my man is good.
Are they the same thing?
You people are so dul that simple things destabilize you.

If I say Mr Good is good.
Does that replace his name as Good?

I think you are just a foolish person that demands no answer to your foolish questions.

The insult above is not the 3 scriptures I ask you to post showing that the name of God is "Jealous."

I have proven to you before that you don't know anything. Go and quote scriptures. Unless what they teach you people in your churches is how to insult people who ask to prove yourself.

MightySparrow:


I asked you to tell us one.


Your problem is spiritual arrogance.
In any place under Heaven people know there's a supreme God over all for instance.
Ọlọrun for Yoruba Ubangiji in Hausa, Chineke in Igbo and many other places. In these places no shrines are built for the only true God whose does not live among men

Besides, have you ever heard of two peoples with the names of their gods similar?
You are just conceited in delusion.

You have already committed a blunder with your one verse doctrine.

Idol worshippers of Amadioha can boast and say that their God is jealous, that their God is the Almighty God and that even pastors and rev fathers come to them for power. But non of them can ever say or call their God Jehovah. You can't hear it anywhere.

He alone whose name is Jehovah is the Most High God.

I am still waiting for you to quote your own bible. I hope you still have bible? Lets see if the bible have been reading for years is correct.

Janosky:


*2 chronicles 7:14
"My people who are called by My name".
Jehovah said so.

* 'You are my witnesses,' says Jehovah,my servant whom I have chosen." Isaiah 43:10,21.
Jehovah said so.

The question is this:
@ Matthew 12:15-18 . John 5:43 & Revelation 3:14, did Jesus Christ identify himself as Jehovah's chosen servant?
@ Isaiah 43:10,21,2 chronicles 7:14, what name did Jehovah call His chosen servant?
The answer is there @ Isaiah 43:10 & Matthew 12:15-18.
You must represent Jehovah his Father /our Father as Jesus represented his Father, John 5:43 & John 7:16.


His followers were called 'Christians',in Antioch. Acts11:26.
@ Acts 15:6-17, did Jesus followers (gentiles & Jews) identify themselves as "bearing God's name?
That name is Jehovah's WITNESSES.

Some will come here & be WAILING about Acts 1:8.
But they forget about Acts 2:42 in their Bible.

Question
1. According to 2 Chronicles 7:14, how were the Israelites called by the name of God?

I still haven't seen any scripture that says the new name is Jehovah's witness.

MightySparrow:



2. Why do you think only NWT is correct?

Quote your own let's see the one that is a correct.

MightySparrow:


Qoute the scriptures let us discuss.

Exodus 6:3 NWT
3 And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty, but with regard to my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them.

Exodus 34:14 NWT
14 You must not bow down to another god, for Jehovah is known for requiring exclusive devotion. Yes, he is a God who requires exclusive devotion.

Exodus 83:18 NWT
May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth.

All these scriptures align and shows that the name of God is JEHOVAH.

Now quote your own to show that the name of God is JEALOUS in all these scriptures. Quote and use the same version of the bible.

achorladey:


He already quote Exodus 34:14 and said that is one unique name of God to him.

I have shown them in the past that just one verse is not enough to form a belief while you throw others away.

Aemmyjah:



I'm contrasting human definition today of Christian with that if Bible times

It is still left for God to decide if he will change it or not. The will of God is all that matters not the will or desire of any man.

MightySparrow:



The name of my God is found in this passage:
Exod.34.14 - For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

Please kindly quote this your Exodus 34:14, Exodus 6:3, and Psalm 83:18 to indicate that the name of God is Jealous. Please use the same version of the bible. I would like to learn from you.

MaxInDHouse:


I don't even expect members of Watchtower to accept it talkless you because i'm not the faithful and discreet slave feeding Jesus' sheep.

But one thing is certain:

Call yourself by the group name CHRISTIAN no member of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES organization will welcome a prayer from you neither will they accept to worship with you elsewhere except inside the Kingdom Hall of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

That's food for thought!

We don't pray to human beings and they are not our God that answers our prayers. We are not interested in worshipping with them. If your organisation people are god of men, let them rule over your people.

If this was my first experience with JW people, I will not have ever welcomed them. They should pray for themselves and answer their own prayers.

Aemmyjah:


Christian has now become like a traditional self identity
Many don't know what real Christian mean

What does real Christian mean?

We cannot just wake up one day and decide to reject what God has made to happen. You are opposing God's will with your human thoughts.

MaxInDHouse:


In that case go back to your Bible study conductor and continue from where you stopped.
We don't spoon-feed people on faceless forum you must sit down with your neighbors to dig into the scriptures on whatever you want to know.
My presence here is to direct any Interested person to God's organization and i've been doing so.

You can check the comments of those i have directed to God's organization below:























May you have PEACE!

Even false prophets receive x 1 million praises. Those praising you might not know anything.

If it is not from the scripture, forget it. It was dead on "researchal." In other words, It died immediately you started the research.

Michael547:

Would it be proper if I say that my name is Jealous, or I say that someone is Jealous?

Would that mean that I am bearing the name of the Almighty God or giving someone else that name?

I would like to come into this matter. Still looking for where it all started.

achorladey:



No proof anywhere na man made concoction swallowed by MaxInDHouse

He has admitted that it was his personal research. So we have agreed to reject his research for lacking in evidence.

Aemmyjah:




The name Christian was given by Divine Providence. So Jehovah had a hand or intervention in making this unique group have a name and that will not seem to promote any divisive sect favoring Jewish disciples against Gentile disciples (like the nation of Israel) but they are united. It could not have been from faithless humans or in mockery of the disciples that they adopt the name cos it seem to come from divine proclamation or providence as you read. It is just that a quick glance at the verse make it look like it was the unbelievers or the Jews that gave them the name but no, it was by Divine Providence, some translation uses the word, divine appointment or proclamation
Jesus Christ is the head of the Christian congregation which he symbolically calls his wife. Just as a wife bears her husband name, the name Christian has a deeper meaning. Another word was The Way. The unbelievers used Sect to describe them.
For instance, I could say it was in Columbus, Ohio in 1931 that the Bible students began to be called Jehovah's Witnesses by Divine Providence. Without careful investigation, one may think it was the neighbors that gave us that name maybe cos we were using God's name unlike others but with available information, we know it was adopted then and announced by Rutherford. Were some of the neighbors beginning to use Jehovah to describe us before then? Personally , I don't know but it is possible someone may have used, 'Jehovah people is here'. The name Jehovah was rarely used then but we were already using it and making it known long before 1931 until the name was officially adopted but DIVINE PROVIDENCE so using Jehovah name before then was kind of new or strange to the people cos that was not what they were taught in Churches but formerly it was International Bible Student Association but we did not see any need of a distinguishing name. We are also known as Kingdom Proclaimers or Kingdom publishers cos we tell about the kingdom . It is only unbelievers that give us name like wickedness, cultists, poor , brainwashed, sect and pedophiles. Similarly, in the first century, since preaching about exercising faith in Jesus Christ as the way of salvation to both Jews and Greeks was completely new but that was what they were known for since the day of Pentecost, someone could say, 'These Jesus Christ people are here', 'The preachers of Christ are here', I am not saying it happened but it's possible but the name CHRISTIAN did not crept his way into the congregation as a mockery or mere description of some people telling about Jesus. It was given by DIVINE PROVIDENCE. Possibly at a meeting then with the brothers, a prominent member could have announced it and they joyfully carried it

Sadly but true to what Jesus and Paul foretold, the entire group fell into apostasy much later and the name Christian does not even show or prove one knows Jesus or even put faith in him. It was used in wars to spread the gospel (political false gospel) and today, politicians, lesbians, criminals,etc openly acknowledge they are Christians. Even an atheist where he wants to fill a form and he's asked to choose between Muslim, Christian will likely choose Christian even though he may hate the group but he had a Christian background. The name Christian is now like a tradition, it is even politicized and used as a State religion. The name Christian is still valid as it describes ones personal relationship with Jesus Christ but it is also a misnomer. A Muslim that says he wants to be a Christian can simply enter any religious building claiming faith in Jesus whereas they do nonsense and we have several thousands of Christendom denomination that contradict themselves in beliefs and practices and what they Bible teaches. We , Jehovah's Witnesses don't want to identify with Christendom so the name Jehovah's Witnesses is very fitting and by Divine Providence. This is the time of Restoration. The name does not describe who we are but what we do. We also exercise faith in Jesus Christ and we're Christian but not as a religious-political group and that's why we don't associate with other groups.
Good morning Boomark
Honestly, you're amazing too. For a week, I was banned and could simply read messages. I enjoy much of your comments honestly. You're like a honeybadger, it can face a pride of lion and it won't give up. Personally, I'm trying hard to limit my comments here cos I feel sometimes, it leads to arrogance in knowledge, insults which are really unchristian and I feel I am using pride and using myself as a tool to those who hate us to paint a bad image on Jehovah's Witnesses and I feel bad really. I'll rather be insulted than allow our good name to be tarnished and the best way to do so as I've seen is not even responding to some comments or posts or mentions even when triggered to or to defend the organization so the good people know about us should not be seen as a show
The guy that is asking for certificate of evangelism or whatever reported me to a brother of mine here who was kind of reproving in his comments that I called him stupid. True and that's really regrettable but he asked me a question who was stupid between me and him. Was he expecting me to say it was me? I should have ignored but I said it was him and he insulted my father. He did not mention that one. He did not mention that he call others demonic. An ex-certified evangelist indeed

Thanks my friend.

Some questions can put people in trouble.

But you know that other people can still claim that the name of their church is more fitting and a divine providence. No one has monopoly of claim. But all claims that are unscriptural are false. Christian name is the one we have seen so far in the scripture that came through divine providence. There is no other.

MaxInDHouse:


I have told you from the onset that there is only one reason why i will engage you in any form of discussion regarding Jehovah's Witnesses.

Are you of the opinion that God approves all forms of religions?
If YES is your response then there's no need arguing about what anyone believes since your God approves all.

But if NO is your response then you and i will use the scriptures to figure out the one and only religion that God approves.

That's the only reason i can engage you in any discussion regarding Jehovah's Witnesses!

The answer is no. But I just need the explanation to that scripting. Just tell me what they meant by it in details. As in, according to their own opinion not yours.

James 1:27 HCSB
[27] Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

I practice the purest form of religion.

You are not trying with the new name I asked you to show me. And you want to start another long essay now. I only need things from the scripture not human essay.

MaxInDHouse:


The group name "CHRISTIANS" came because God's people took up an assignment that His only begotten Son Jesus who is called Christ gave them so whoever becomes part of this group and work with them is a Christian but that group name is not to include ancient servants of God who never knew Jesus neither work with him.

From Abel till the day of John the baptist all the servants of God had a hidden group name that wasn't used it's recorded in the Bible book of Isaiah 43:10 which reads:

“You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “Yes, my servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and have faith in me And understand that I am the same One. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none.

The above quotation wasn't meant for the Israelites as a nation because God was talking to people who are loyal to Him and only Him as their God in view of this apostle Paul in his letter to the Hebrew speaking congregation defined faith:

Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen. Hebrews 11:1

The demonstrations of some in ancient times is evidence of their faith in God that He is real to them and Paul began mentioning names like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Jacob, Sarah, Joseph, Moses, Rahab, Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, David, as well as Samuel. All these people never saw Jesus nor did the work Jesus assigned to his disciples therefore they are not Christians.
So what did Paul has to say about them?
In the Bible book of Hebrews 12:1 we read:

So, then, because we have such a great cloud of WITNESSES surrounding us, let us also throw off every weight and the sin that easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us

Paul referred to all servants of God in ancient times as WITNESSES and Jehovah called all His loyal worshipers the same group name {Isaiah 43:10} there has been many group names used for His worshipers in the past starting with:
• ISRAELITES.
• JEWS.
• THE WAY.
• CHRISTIANS.

None among those group names survived the attack of Satan's agents as he continues to initiate his own agents right in their midst each time God assemble them to serve as example to the world around them.
In fact Jesus himself foretold of the future of CHRISTIANITY when he told them a parable of a sower who planted fine seeds in his farmland but his enemies came and oversowed the land with weeds {Matthew 13:24-30} in that illustration Jesus concluded that during the harvest he will send out his angels to gather only the fine seeds and keep them in his store but as for the weeds they will also be gathered in their bundles for burning.

So when did this separation work began?
In the Bible book of Revelations 18:4 we read:

And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues"

This means sincere, faithful and loyal individuals will humbly disassociate themselves from false religions in the last days before the destruction of the world empire of false religion and they will continue preaching zealously and industriously teaching in their neighborhood because Jesus is the voice that called them they will not abandon the assignment he gave his disciples rather they will be reenergized due to the call by an endtime group called the faithful and discreet slave {Matthew 24:45} this small group will continue to direct them in doing the work without let up because they must do it until the conclusion of this system of things {Matthew 28:20} when the end of all badness will come! Matthew 24:14

While all these is going on Satan will not give up he will try to initiate his agents right in the midst of God's servants in the endtime but because Jesus has began ruling in heaven since the year 1914 Satan and his agents won't have any power to stop God's people rather their actions globally will render them silent in a spiritual sense {Isaiah 54:17} that's why they will become frustrated claiming they are JW PIMO who are Physically In (God's organization but) Mentally Out (of God's organization)

These are the agents of Satan that God is talking about in the Bible book Isaiah 65:13-15
You will notice that they prefer the name CHRISTIANS so much that they keep fighting against God's organization but instead of them to take their leave they remain.
Their group started their work again right after the death of Charles Taze Russell as they continued to fight against this organization, some of them went out to form their own group claiming Christians but aren't doing the work assigned but the rest of them refused to leave they are the ones maligning God's organization due to the bitterness of their father {John 8:44} so when Jehovah decided to call His own worshipers by another group name Satan's agents became totally confused because that organization is invincible.

So we are the real disciples of Christ (CHRISTIANS actively doing the work Jesus assigned to his disciples) but due to all the atrocities committed by the AntiChrist {1John 2:18} Jehovah began calling us by the long hidden group name:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

Bros abi neighbour, I have shown you from the scripture that the new name is CHRISTIAN. I can't take anything coming from your head. You should know me na. I can't take such things from my penticostal people how much more from JW.

Stop writing essay for me. Just give one or two scriptures that clearly says that "Jehovah's witness" is the new name.

FxMasterz

Okay, Sorry for everything. I have abandoned people in their 30s.

Why I asked you to explain scripting is because I felt Pentecostals might be the same thing we accuse them of doing. I still don't know how they do it because I know they use scriptures to teach. Maybe MaxinDHouse should just explain it to me how they meant it so I will know if it is worth it.

I don't belong to anyone but the will of God. Even the catholic church that I don't like, I will not support anything that false against them. If you see me defending that particular thing you will think I am one of them.

If any any JW insult you again first without any provocation just call me and leave the fight for me, I will deal with the person for you. But if na catholic, my hands and legs no dey. Most of them are very far from the repentance.

FxMasterz:

1. You've been caught red handed already. Your lies and manipulations are already obvious on this thread. Are you still unable to produce any statement where I said you can only BECOME an evangelist by human ordination? You're one of those people whom the Bible refers to as "those who glory in their shame."

Shout as you may, we are suspicious of you because of your love for deceits and falsehoods. Your bad character and lack of a meek Spirit forces us to question your claim of being an evangelist. We want to know who ordained such a demon possessed fellow into ministry.


Except you have comprehension issues, you should have read already that in the days when certificates didn't exist, the apostles used endorsement letters! Or are you blind to even see in Acts 15 that the apostles complained that some people went from them to preach nonsense "without authorization from us."? Liars like you won't see that because the Bible is not their final say. Their own words are the only truth in the universe.

You call me a liar and a wicked fellow without any iota of proof! You have not been able to present any single proof of lies against me on this thread regarding this matter and other matters I have discussed with you. For the most part, I have exposed your lying and mischiefs on this thread beyond reasonable doubt. You can keep glorying in your shame.

"When your character is at variance with your claims of ministry, we would ask you to verify yourself with an ordination certificate." Your alibi of a spiritual ordination would not stand since by you character you do not show yourself to be a true servant of God.

Coincidentally, I have never received any salary in my life for being a Pastor. God will.judge you for this false narrative. I have been to several Churches and I have never received any pastoral salaries or emoluments because I do not want any earthly salary to deprive me of my full heavenly rewards. Except I have ever received salaries for pastoral work, God will judge you for this statement if you fail to retract and repent. I won't say more than that.


Nobody is trying to kill your confidence, God forbid. I am putting a check on your character and spiritual qualifications because it is nothing to write home about. Shout wherever you can and make any claims you want, you are free but anyone who observes your bad character, demonic boasting and lying attitude would take it a step further to verify you by asking you for ordination proofs. If you are of good character and the evidence of a mature Christian is seen in you, you might not be asked. For now, by your bad character and your inability to state clearly who ordained you, I can suspect you to be a yahoo evangelist until you prove me wrong.


IF INDEED I HAVE EVER COLLECTED PASTORAL SALARIES USING MY PASTORAL CERTIFICATES, YOU'RE FREE FROM DEVINE JUDGEMENT, BUT IF THIS STATEMENT YOU MADE IS A LIE AGAINST MY PERSON, MAY THE ALMIGHTY GOD LOOK INTO IT AND JUDGE IT. MAY THE LORD JUDGE YOU FOR THIS FALSE STATEMENT.

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What do you even make of yourself? You think I would be following you from thread to thread especially with your bad character and lying attitude? I have other better things to do with my time okay. I don't have time for unprofitable arguments.

JWs script their talks. Two ex members here have confirmed it. None of the members here have denied it. Both members and ex members on Quora have confirmed it. You are the only lone voice claiming otherwise. Case closed.



Don't worry, I'm still playing with you hoping that you will get sensible and purport yourself. You would soon have a taste of how brutal I can get with pestilent personalities like you. I'll so deal deal with you that you break down and retrace your steps back to God if ever you really have met God indeed.

I didn't ask you for your Ordination certificate because of a question you asked. You lying soul. You asked a question that was vague and practically unrelated to the matter at hand, I asked you to clarify your question since I did not understand what exactly the question was intended for. I did not even know the answer you wanted. You started insulting me and even said "I don't want to say you don't have sense.". I started querying you from that time effort. Thereafter you went ahead to tell me I'm fully and empty. Even saying I'm a wicked lying pastor after you told us how you became bitter at a Winners pastor who didn't give you money you begged him for.

The demon possessed sons of the devil would always show themselves as useless souls lurking in the dark to deceive the gullible. They only have their boasting and shouting as proof of a call. If we ask someone to recommend you now as an evangelist, you will still find nobody because everyone knows you're demon possessed. You actually need deliverance.

Nothing proves you to be a true evangelist. The fruits you bear are demonic. Infact, by talking boastfully, abusing a fellow human, lying and seeking to distort obvious facts, I can confidently say that a demon dwells in you. You're actually demon possessed and need urgent deliverance.

"By their fruits you will know them", says the Lord Jesus.

Galatians 5:22-23
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law."

As long as we cannot see any of the above fruits in you, we would only verify you by your certificate. We want to know that man of God or Church who nurtured or trained someone of such devilish and satanic characters who now claims to be an evangelist. A yahoo evangelist at best.

My God will not judge me. He has set me aside not to behave and insist on lies like you people. Sorry for that comment. I said it because of the way you keep insisting that I must have evangelist certificate as if I need it to earn salary. I know most pastors earn salaries.

So you you are saying that you don't earn salary as a pastor or they pursued you 23 years ago and you are no longer a pastor?

You are the one that has a very very bad character and lying spirit. See my first conversations with you and it was a question which you never answered till date. From there, you started calling me a liar, Boomark of satan and so so many abusive words JUST BECAUSE OF A QUESTION THAT PUT YOU IN DILEMMA. You are not fit to be a teacher.

I had wanted us to do the Quora and scripting stuff but since you don't want no problem. As for me alone, there is no retreat no surrender.

Now you have to apologise to me for calling me Boomark of satan, for saying that I am a liar, and for insisting that I am a JW when I have told you severally that I am not. If you refuse to apologise, then the judgment will upon you.

Biko, use 'Boomark of God...' when you want to start apologizing and also remember to tell us if you are still a pastor or not. Thank you.

Michael547:

How does my question connote that I have a problem with English language?

My question is also in English as stated below:
If the name of your God is Jealous, Would it be proper if I say that my name is Jealous, or I say that someone is Jealous?

Would that mean that I am bearing the name of your Almighty God or giving someone else that name?

I like the way you ask questions. You use it to filter falsehood. That was how I learnt the things I know and it has made many people jealous.

MaxInDHouse:


Who called them "CHRISTIANS" ?

Of course the name came from unbelievers and Jesus' disciples gladly welcome the new development as a BLESSING but APOSTATES later turned it to a CURSE.

Read carefully Isaiah 65:11-15

There Jehovah analyzed what will happen in the last days as apostates (Satan's agents) will turn their backs on the arrangement made by God and start attacking that arrangement so that they will become saddened due to lack of spiritual malnutrition.
You are using the NWT an arrangement God made to help honest hearted and sincere individuals know the truth in our time but these apostates even though they knew there is no better arrangement elsewhere kept speaking against it.
So instead of supporting the arrangement and working towards God's will as His coworkers they are discouraging others from taking in the accurate knowledge that will help them in the coming great tribulations.
That's why Jehovah said He will kill them all and as for that group name CHRISTIANS that they have BASTARDIZED with their evil deeds His chosen ones will use it as a CURSE for some time but He will call them by another name! Isaiah 65:15

Today the name CHRISTIANS that was given to the first century Jewish disciples of Christ who were easygoing, zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word has become what trained killer politicians bear making it worthless with no pedigree, back in the first century anywhere that group name is mentioned what comes to people's minds is the young Jewish carpenter who later became a preacher and teacher of God's word helping people to become God's friends but today there are thousands of different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming that name!

Surely that group name is no longer a blessing just as it was back then but a CURSE that's why Jehovah called His own worshipers by another name! Isaiah 65:15

What your friends wants me to say is that we are not Christians due to what Jehovah did but that's not the truth rather whoever wants to know how CHRISTIANS should conduct themselves now needs to observe Jehovah's Witnesses organization.

So it's not that we abandoned that group name but we bear another group name that'll separate us from pagans practicing lawlessness! Revelations 18:4

Isaiah 65:1, 15. NWT
1 “I have let myself be searched for by those who did not ask for me; I have let myself be found by those who did not look for me. I said, ‘Here I am, here I am!’ to a nation that was not calling on my name.
15 You will leave behind a name that my chosen ones will use as a curse, And the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will put each of you to death, But his own servants he will call by another name;

Acts 11:26 NWT
26 After he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year they assembled with them in the congregation Andy taught quite a crowd, and it was first in Antioch that the disciples were by divine providence called Christians.

This is a proof that the new name is CHRISTIAN which came by an act of God. And it happened in Antioch, a nation not calling on his name.

So use scriptures to show us proof that the new name is JEHOVAH'S WITNESS. Clearly indicate where it was mentioned.

FxMasterz:



I don't think you love to hear the truth.

No need to talk too much again. I've made my points and reasonable people have observed that you are not a lover of truth.

Are you unable to provide or quote any statement of mine that says you must have an ordination certificate to BECOME evangelist? You can't have any scripture from me to prove something I never said, okay? I didn't see anywhere in those pictures of yours where I said a man must be humanly ordained and given a certificate before he can BECOME an evangelist. Quote it out or better still, underline the statement in your screenshot.

Can you confirm that I told you that there are two ordinations, a spiritual and a physical? Can you confirm that I told you that the physical Ordination is an attestation to your spiritual Ordination by a spiritual father or church that helps us verify you?

Can you confirm that I constantly asked you for evidence of you being an evangelist? This question was necessary because of your bad character and attitude.

Look, if you keep shouting that you are an evangelist, we would ask you to produce your ordination certificate for verification. Even the Lord Jesus was asked "By what authority do you do these things?".

Hey! Which church ordained you? Who is your spiritual father? What do you preach? What article of faith do you believe in? Why must we accept you as an evangelist?

Do you have any answers to the above questions? You want us to take you as an evangelist with your lying attitude, online hooliganism and demonic boasting? No, we need to verify you to know where you came out from and to establish that you're truly an evangelist, not a breakaway rebellious kid who ran away from his church to make himself a yahoo evangelist.

I can shout to the high heavens that I am an evangelist of God and you have no right to ask me for receipt abi certificate. Do I look a business man? Yes, I have a very bad character towards liars and wicked people. You think I will pet and worship you and your lies?

So after over 23 years as a former winners chapel pastor you cannot use a single scripture to defend what you are practicing? As in, you acquired a useless certificate just to be receiving SALARY as a pastor?

I want you to know that I can confidently say that I am an evangelist anywhere. And that your man-made article of faith, human ordination, human spiritual father, and certificates are very very worthlessly useless before God who gave the gift of evangelism and prophecy.

If oppose or disagree with what I wrote up there, we can start afresh with your scriptural proof.


UPDATE:
THIS FORMER WINNERS CHAPEL PASTOR IS IN THE BUSINESS OF USING MAN-MADE CERTIFICATE TO COLLECT SALARIES FROM DIFFERENT CHURCHES. HE HAS FAILED TO DEFEND HIS HUMAN ORDINATION AND CERTIFICATE WITH ANY SCRIPTURE.


What a shame! I just wish I can tear that your certificate to pieces.


Now concerning Quora quotes and your JW false allegation against me, I will create a thread for it and you will answer all those questions you have been dodging.

I will be very ruthless in dealing with you for insulting me just because I asked you to explain something. Your over 23 years didn't teach you anything from the bible.

You have the chance to apologise to me now or tell me to go ahead. when I am done, you will know that...

I am an evangelist. The slayer of useless certificates and lying salary pastors who don't know anything from the scripture. And..

I AM BOOMARK OF GOD.

FxMasterz
So after more than 23 years as a pastor, you could not provide even a single scripture to defend what you are practicing. It is very obvious that you are practicing man-made doctrine.

You brought in irrelevant letter of endorsement just to deceive people and now you are asking me to show where you said it is a requirement to become an evangelist. How does it concern to the question I asked you in first place. Have you seen that you are the one that has a terrible comprehension problem.

We have yahoo pastors and those who are into church business who also have certificates. You also have certificate and cannot provide a single scripture to defend what you practice. So certificate is what differentiates charlatan evangelist and non charlatan evangelist? As in, certificate is what determines who is fake and who really called by God? This is my number 1 question below and you have failed to provide any scripture to defend yourself.

Question

[b]1. Show me just one person in the bible that needed certificate to become an evangelist?

Show me any sentence I made in which I said a person needs to earn a certificate to BECOME an evangelist.

2. Show us from the scripture where it is required that a spiritual father or mentor needs to ordain someone before they become an evangelist or prophet?

Show me any sentence I made in which I said a spiritual father or mentor must ordain you before you can BECOME an evangelist.

3. Does the absence of human ordination nullify the gift of God on people who he made evangelist, pastors, prophets and teachers?

Show me where I said the absence of ordination nullifies the gift of God. The question is irrelevant because it does not tally whatsoever with what I have discussed so far with you regarding this matter

These above were your response to my questions.

Question:

4. 1. So if certificate is not needed for me to become an evangelist, why then did you start insulting me, telling me to bring my certificate and calling me a liar when I said I am an evangelist and I don't have certificate? See picture 1 as evidence below.

5. 2. So if I don't need ordination by human beings to become an evangelist, why then did you ask me if i ordained myself? Who is my father, where was I ordained? and that I need to be ordained? Why did you raise such irrelevant thing when it can't make me BECOME an evangelist? See picture 2 as evidence.

5.3. Question 3 above does not require me to show you anything. You don't understand english or you want to mischievously dodge the question. Just answer YES or NO.

I have presented 4 picture evidence and you pretended not to see them. I will soon call on people to check if what I typed is not in the picture or that you are just mischievously lying.

Stick to the question on evangelist and don't bring in any Quora or JW stuff here to divert attention or draw sympathy from people. I will create a separate thread for that and you must answer my questions there.

You as over 23 years former winners chapel certificate pastor cannot provide a single scripture to defend yourself and you you looking escape route.

FxMasterz:


Lol. Dem don dey show am shege? Very soon, him eye go clear.

I slay shege too as one man squad.

My eyes are very clear more than many people here because I know JW and I know Pentecostal. Catholic and idol worship I have rejected.

If any shege do strong heads, I pull out my power question mode and they will return to factory settings.

FxMasterz:


He doesn't even know that the JW are seeing him as an unbeliever who will never make heaven.

Whatever any human thinks useless because they are not the ones that will admit people into the kingdom of God that will reside with people here on earth.

And ganging up against such people jwith lies just because of what they think is just preparing yourself for the lake of fire.

Don't be confused. The things I wrote are true because...

I am Boomark of God.

FxMasterz:


Okay, I'll take your word for it. I have only read his words directed at me, and from what I see, he is a JW but since you have had more interactions with him than myself, and you refuse to see him as a JW, I will stop seeing him as a JW until he confirms it any further.

I don't need to prove anything to you. If you and your church lie, I slay your lies. If a JW lie, I slay it.

I am not here to form gangs of liars who think lying to defend their church or organisation will take them to heaven or paradise. All liars will be thrown into the 'lake of hellfire.'

I am Boomark of God.

FxMasterz:


First I am not a Winners Pastor. I was one until I left Winners 23 years ago. Do not present any falsehood about me. Your heading is misleading.

Then secondly, show me where I ever said anyone needs a certificate to be ordained a Pastor or Evangelist!! This is number one proof that you do not abide in the truth. You are an arrogant lover of lies. If otherwise, prove me wrong.

I told you that there are two ordinations:

1. The Spiritual ordination which Ephesians 4:11 talked about. It is a call into one of the 5 fold Ministries of Christ. A spiritual ordination is often followed by a physical ordination.

2. A physical ordination is often followed by a certificate of ordination.



Only Ephesians 4:11 addresses the issue of ministry in the 2 Scripturas you quoted. Romans 8:30 is not talking about ministry but about all Believers who are called into salvation and are justified according to predestination. By using this Romans 8:30 to justify ministerial ordination, you already expose your ignorance of Scripture.




The bolded above shows your insincerity and your penchant for mischief. I used Quora confessions of former JWs and current JWs to prove to you that indeed the JWs use scripting in their talks. Would I be using scriptures to prove that JWs do script their talks? A reasonable person would accept the confessions of both current and previous members as proof. Berating me for using Quora instead of the Scriptures without telling the World exactly what I used Quora to do also shows how deceptive you can be.

Now, back to the topic, if you have followed through all my previous conversations on this platform, you would have immediately noticed that I am one of the heaviest users of Scripture to silence false doctrines on this platform. And I would soon prove that to you.

As i have told you before on the other thread, I would tell you again that in the days of the Apostles of the Lord Jesus, there were no certificates issued because certificates are a latter invention of the world. However, instead of certificates, we often see letters of endorsements. The letters of endorsements do what certificates do today - they help the Church to differentiate genuine ministers from charlatans. A letter of endorsement was the item you needed to gain recognition for your spiritual office anywhere you go. Once certificates were invented, the church adopted certificates to identify who ordained you, where you were ordained, and what your denomination is. By denomination, we are able to know what your doctrines are, and the likelihood of you not being an heretic. Let me show you a few incidents in Scripture where we see letters of endorsements.

Incident 1: Letter of Endorsement for Apollos

Acts 18:27

"When he wanted to go across to Achaia, the brethren encouraged him and wrote to the disciples to welcome him; and when he arrived, he greatly helped those who had believed through grace."

Incident 2: Paul's Letter of Endorsement for Phoebe the Deaconess

Romans 16:1-2 - Phoebe:

"I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a deacon of the church in Cenchreae. I ask you to receive her in the Lord in a way worthy of his people and to give her any help she may need from you, for she has been the benefactor of many people, including me."


Incident 3: Paul's Letter of Endorsement for Mark

Colossians 4:10 - Mark:

"Aristarchus my fellow prisoner greets you, and Mark the cousin of Barnabas (concerning whom you have received instructions: if he comes to you, welcome him)."

Incident 4: The Apostles' Letter of Endorsement for Paul, Barnabas, Judas and Silas

Acts 15:24-27

"We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing.".

Incident 5: Paul's Letter of Endorsement for Titus and Other Brethren With Him

2 Corinthians 8:23:

"As for Titus, he is my partner and co-worker among you; as for our brothers, they are representatives of the churches and an honor to Christ."

Paul refers to Titus as his "partner and co-worker," further endorsing his ministry and leadership. He further endorses other brethren as the Representatives of the Body of Christ. This is did when he sent Titus and some group of believers together to the church at Corinth for ministry. When they got there, they didn't have to start shouting 'We are evangelists". The letters certified them already.


Incident 6: Paul's Letter of Endorsement for Timothy

Philippians 2:19-22:

"I hope in the Lord Jesus to send Timothy to you soon, that I also may be cheered when I receive news about you. I have no one else like him, who will show genuine concern for your welfare. For everyone looks out for their own interests, not those of Jesus Christ. But you know that Timothy has proved himself, because as a son with his father he has served with me in the work of the gospel."

Here, Paul endorses Timothy by praising his genuine concern for others and his faithful service alongside Paul.
1 Corinthians 4:17:

"For this reason I have sent to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church."

Paul commends Timothy as faithful in the Lord and capable of teaching and reminding others of Paul's teachings and therefore should be allowed to teach anywhere. He didn't have to keep shouting everywhere he goes, "I'm an evangelist" like you are doing. The letter of endorsement was his proof? Where's your own proof boomark? You want us to take your shouting as proof?

In 3 John 1:9-10,The Apostle John writes about the negative actions of Diotrephes, who refused to acknowledge letters of commendation and endorsements (today, we would say he refused to acknowledge certificates) and even refused to welcome traveling brethren.

"9 I wrote to the church, but Diotrephes, who loves to be first, will not welcome us. 10 So when I come, I will call attention to what he is doing, spreading malicious nonsense about us. Not satisfied with that, he even refuses to welcome other believers. He also stops those who want to do so and puts them out of the church."


These references demonstrate the practice of writing letters to commend or certify individuals in ministry during the New Testament era. When certificates were invented, certificates were issued instead of letters. Without the certificates, it is difficult for the global church to accept you as an evangelist because there is no physical evidence that you are one. Humans don't see the Evangelistic office you carry if you truly carry one. It is wise for you to say on a public forum, "I am an Evangelist by calling." No one would ask for your certificate because if you lie about your calling, it is between you and God. But once you declare, I am an evangelist, we would ask for you certificate because we don't know you. It is your certificate that will tell us who you truly are. For example if you present a Celestial certificate to me as an Evangelist, I would have to grill you further to know what type of spirit you really carry. A certificate is therefore a document that allows you to be easily accepted into the congregation of the saints anywhere you go. This is the Wisdom of God in the Churches to root out charlatans who lay fictitious claims to a calling even when they were never called.

Modified
The University of Bologna (founded in 1088) issued the first known certificates of recognition, called "licentia docendi," In the 12th Century AD which granted permission to teach.

It is only ignorance that can make anyone to expect the Church to issue certificates at a time when nothing like that existed in the world. Before certificates came into being, Churches used letters of endorsement.

Have you seen how you tell lies and spread false doctrine? Is it letter of endorsement from Paul that made Timothy, Titus, and co, the pastor, evangelist, prophet, teacher that they became on the day God chose them? Letter of endorsement for those sent on a missionary work by Paul didn't make them evangelists. So this lie has failed and didn't answer my question.

See evidence in the picture where I told you that my Lord Jesus Christ didn't have certificate and non of the apostles had certificate to become evangelists, pastors, and prophets. You kept on calling me a liar, asking me if I ordained myself, that I must have a certificate given to me during ordination, that I must be ordained by a spiritual father, leader or mentor else I am just a fake evangelist trying to deceive people. All these are in the pictures.

So you have more questions to answer.

Question

1. Show me just one person in the bible that needed certificate to become an evangelist?

2. Show us from the scripture where it is required that a spiritual father or mentor needs to ordain someone before they become an evangelist or prophet?

3. Does the absence of human ordination nullify the gift of God on people who he made evangelist, pastors, prophets and teachers?

Please use scriptures to defend yourself. And number your answers accordingly. The more evidence you need the more questions I ask.

B. O. G. I will write my full name very soon.

MaxInDHouse:


Make research and find out what those calling the disciples meant when they gave them that name!

When Saul was about to be made king, their 'goat' loss. That's divine providence because God has already planned that he will lead Saul to Samuel. The donkey later came back on it own.

New World Translation

Acts 11:26 NWT
26 After he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year they assembled with them in the congregation and taught quite a crowd, and it was first in Antioch that the disciples were by divine providence called Christians.

It was a name God has already prepared for his people.

1 Peter 4:16 NWT
16 But if [he suffers] as a Christian , let him not feel shame, let him not feel shame, but let him keep on glorifying God in this name.

You should start glorifying God in this name - Christian. Because it is a name that came from God. Those you say it, maybe as an insult didn't know that is God who made it so. They were used to make the make the popular.

I prefer New World Translation to other bible because I used all of them. The problem is not in your organisations bible as people use to believe but in what you people are believing as individuals.

This space is for update.

MaxInDHouse:


Now when they saw the outspokenness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated and ordinary men, they were astonished. And they began to realize that they had been with Jesus. Act 4:13

Thank you my neighbour

They were just ordinary people without any certificate.

The so called winners chapel certificate pastor gave me trailer load of insults in a hidden thread and I wanted to faint.

I want him to come to the front page here and insult me again without answering my question. Let me be fanning myself here while I wait for him.

MaxInDHouse:


We go join hands fight you o!

I am a one man squad.

When I spoke about first fruit. It was I alone against many who practiced it. I used about 5 to 6 scriptures to conquer them and they all went silent.

I don't do insults like the FxMasterz, the certificate pastor who doesn't know anything. All he has is insults and gossips. He can't answer a simple question as pastor he claimed he is. It is very shameful.

I use scriptures. That was why I said I can boast and nothing will happen.

achorladey:


From the madness and insanities peddling brains..





Boomark those are the words of Maxindhouse. It is Satan's agent that use the group name CHRISTIANS


Emusan come and see the WE referring to Jehovah's servants aka Jehovah's witnesses earthwide.

Fxmasterz

Haaa! I didn't even see that his comment. He said that the name Christian was not God's choice. This is shocking.

He started retracing his step when I showed him that the name Christian actually came from God. He should apologise to us for insulting our name and ask God for forgiveness.