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|Politics / Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by hercules07: 8:58pm On Apr 14|
The guy just put a big hole in my praise of the Ijebus, oya, Ijebus were weaklings, Egbas were the masters, but, why were the Ijebus supporting the Egbas against Ibadan when the Ibadans were actually defending an Ijebu town?
|Politics / Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by hercules07: 8:57pm On Apr 14|
I might have read it wrong then, are you quoting from Johnson's book?
|Politics / Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by hercules07: 5:56am On Apr 14|
Yeah right, treaty was disregarded my behind. Modakekes were Oyo refugees but the Ooni that gave them refuge died and the one that took over became wicked and chose to drive them out, well, he got his behind handed to him.
|Politics / Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by hercules07: 12:20am On Apr 14|
Ijebus held their own not the Egbas, infact, some of the battles were Ibadan warriors defending ijebu towns against Egba/Ijebu warriors.
|Politics / Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by hercules07: 8:41pm On Apr 13|
Okay sorry, the current occupant just gets my goat everytime.
|Politics / Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by hercules07: 6:28pm On Apr 13|
The Alaafin was the paramount ruler of Yoruba land, but, you might want to remove the Ijebus from that list, they were not really part of Yorubaland as such, they were more concerned about Lagos and the Seas than the hinterland, the hinterland Yorubas were also more concerned about the North than the Seas, the Ijebus really guarded the sea jealously.
|Politics / Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by hercules07: 6:14pm On Apr 13|
There is no reason to undermine Ife, this is history. I do not care a hoot for Ife, as I have more affinity for the Ijeshas and Oshogbo peeps than Ife. We recognise Ife as the spiritual home but they have not born the Ooni that will deny the Alaafin his dues, the Modakekes were always deployed .
|Politics / Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by hercules07: 6:11pm On Apr 13|
The Ijebus were not really Ife lovers, why should they be, they were more concerned about the sea than the hinterland, if Ife was that important, the Fulanis would have loved to overrun it. The seat of the King was in Oyo, the Alaafin was the paramount ruler of the Yorubas. Ibadan was founded by Ifes, Ijebus and Egbas, check out how many Ibadan people are Ijebus, the Ifes were kicked out because of their ways. I am an Ibadan man who knows that the Olubadan is not a first class king but we poo on the Ooni from a very great height. Awolowo was the one who promoted the Ooni by making Sir Adesoji Aderemi powerful.
|Politics / Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by hercules07: 5:47pm On Apr 13|
The ife people do not know that Ibadans used to send the Modakekes to chase them to the bush, it has happened like three times in the past. We can not lower ourselves to dealing with the Ifes directly, in Yorubaland, the Ijebus were our equals, the Alaafin the paramount ruler, ask yourself why the Fulanis were more concerned about Oyo than Ife, heck, it was the Ibadans that stopped them in Oshogbo and though the Baales of Ibadan were headstrong, they recognised the sovereignty of the Alaafin, even the British signed treaties with the Alaafin not the Ooni, Ife might be spiritual home but, where the King is, so is his palace, the Alaafin is the paramount ruler of Yoruba land, I will even have the Awujale before the Ooni.
|Politics / Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by hercules07: 4:57pm On Apr 13|
Shymmex and his Ibadan wahala, in truth, the Olubadan is not a first class Oba if we are to go by Yoruba tradition, he owes his allegiance to the Alaafin of Oyo. The Alaafin is the first of first class obas, he is followed by his brothers, as far as I am concerned the Ooni is not a first class Oba by our tradition, he is a babalawo or chief priest. The awujale should be accorded his rights as a first class Oba by Yoruba tradition as the ijebus were not really part of the hinterland yorubas and were great warriors.
|Politics / Re: Barcanista And The Promise Of Ministerial Aide by hercules07: 8:12pm On Apr 01|
I think what will help us is if these parties can articulate their ideologies, are they liberals, conservatives or progressive conservatives, once we have this, it will be easier to see those who are flip flopping, you can not be a liberal one day and be conservative the next, that is a no no.
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|Politics / Re: Why Igbos Voted Jonathan - The Hypocrisy by hercules07: 12:20am On Apr 01|
You have actually spoken well, Afam's post is nothing to write home about. The Igbos need to understand that having your sons and daughters in places of high position is not what you require, it will be better to have none and get developments than have some without anything coming to your region. One other thing that grates with most people is this air of superiority, why not allow others to say you are exceptional, those who can see will always acknowledge good traits when they see one. The Igbo nation supported GEJ in order to spite the SW and the North, the one thing they did not realise was that the SE vote is not significant in the scheme of things, a better attitude would have been to give some votes to APC and some to PDP, even if it is 4 to 1 or 3 to 2, thank God for the Okorochas and the Ngiges, I am very sure they will fight for the interest of their regions not their pockets, we need each region to be strong and formidable, no region must be left behind in our quest for development.
|Politics / Re: Jagaban by hercules07: 11:34pm On Mar 31|
Men, western Canada has enjoyed the warmest winter in quite a few years, I was working on a time zone that allowed me to post in the past, now I work on a time zone that is not compatible with Nairaland time. I also stayed away because of the thought processes of people on these boards, my dear brother, it is good to live in a country where sanity prevails.
|Politics / Re: Jagaban by hercules07: 11:31pm On Mar 31|
Alpha Beta took an idea to the state, the internally generated revenue of Lagos was miniscule, they went to the State Government saying they will help increase the revenue of the state for a certain percentage, not meeting the target means they will not be paid, that was the term. Now, I hope you know that Alpha Beta did not collect tax on behalf of the Government, what they did was help identify those evading tax and bringing them to compliance, the state Government was the one collecting the taxes and I can authoritatively tell you that LASG used to owe ABC a lot, Tinubu might have stolen from Lagos state but it was not via Alpha Beta. Please also note that Okonjo paid debts and paid consultants a high percentage, Alpha Beta helped increase revenue, should they not be compensated?
|Politics / Re: Jagaban by hercules07: 11:02pm On Mar 31|
He is not greater than Awolowo, infact, he should not be in the same sentence as the man. He is a good politician who can rally people around him, he is a very strategic and tactical, but, what Awolowo achieved in the 50s is just too much, his thoughts on governance and the foresight that Awo had on economy, commerce and law can not be matched by Tinubu.
|Religion / Re: An Atheist Question For The Muslims..!!! by hercules07: 1:48pm On Mar 18|
Though I do not care about religion, you need to know that we are talking about a thousand years ago, the culture then was for the female kid to be given out very early, I think they were treated as commodity, also, a lot of the marriages had to do with building alliances, something the western powers did as well.
|Religion / Re: Why Did It Take 2,000 Years For The Gospel To Reach Nigeria? by hercules07: 4:08am On Dec 27, 2014|
I do not often agree with all of your posts but on this, you are very correct, it is obvious that religion is a tool in the hands of the elite, it was a way to conquer and Christianity when fully dissected leaves a lot to be desired, we know the bible is flawed, how can God sanction slavery, how can Joshua go to war and kill so many people? I always tell people that if Joshua had lived now, he will be a war criminal.
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|Politics / Re: Goodbye Okonjo Iweala... by hercules07: 11:30pm On Dec 21, 2014|
The Federal Government has no right to withhold the allocations of the states, the FG is not superior to the states, the constitution is clear about these things, the extra accrued should be shared in the ratio of 52/48 stipulated, the FG can decide to put all of its 52% in its own ECA while the states can decide to spend it on what they wish as long as it is legal, for the FG to unilaterally decide to withhold the funds is unlawful and illegal. The FG can encourage the states to setup ECAs for the rainy day, it has no right to forcefully do this. Can we ask NOI where the 52% of the FG is, if the states did not save their 48% what happened to the FG's share? NOI is nothing but a charlatan, someone who has not been able to balance the budget in how many years, where recurrent is almost 70% of the total budget with incredible oil prices for almost four years. Trickle down economy is what will kill this country, the FG is the greatest parasite of all, just collecting rent and outsourcing most of the real functions to the states who earn less combined than the FG, we should move to a trickle up economy where the FG gets part of income tax, some level of company tax while states and LGs get income tax, company tax and a certain percentage of the income on natural resources within their domain.
|Religion / Re: Why Didnt God Just Forgive Mankind Instead Of Killing His Son??? by hercules07: 12:05pm On Dec 02, 2014|
You are asking the wrong questions, the question should be, why the heck do I care what Adam did, I am not related to him and I do not believe he is my ancestor, the stories in the bible are mostly fables garnished with some truths.
|Politics / Re: Nigeria May End Up Borrowing To Pay Salaries – Obasanjo by hercules07: 10:52am On Nov 28, 2014|
It was a dumb thing to pay back those debts, you had a nation with infrastructure deficit paying back close to $18bn at a go, what type of nonsense was that? We should have kept the debts and used the fund we had to restructure the economy, Saudi Arabia just built the second largest refinery with less than that amount, do you know the multiplier effect of such an investment?
|Politics / Re: Nigeria Road Shame Makes Yahoo Homepage. by hercules07: 7:37pm On Nov 07, 2014|
I am sure you know that people in Hong Kong are Chinese as well and we can see how vocal they have been in the last couple of days.
|Politics / Re: Nigeria Road Shame Makes Yahoo Homepage. by hercules07: 7:07pm On Nov 07, 2014|
Nigerian roads are bad, both at the state and federal levels, but, the greater shame should go to the FG, I am sure the total distance of roads at the Federal level is far less than that of intra city roads of 2 or 3 states combined, the FG gets the bulk of revenue in the country 56% compared to 44% for all other organs, there is no single justifiable reason for the FG not to over perform, those who are comparing a state to the FG are diminishing their arguments, FG has far less responsibility and more revenue than the states and its infrastructure should be top class.
|Politics / Re: External Reserve And Debt Under Obasanjo, Yaradua And Jonathan Administrations by hercules07: 1:29am On Nov 07, 2014|
Nigeria's debt profile from the 70s to now.
|Politics / Re: The Many Lies Of Buhari And APC Supporters by hercules07: 1:21am On Nov 07, 2014|
Nigeria's debt stock from the 70s.
|Foreign Affairs / Re: Barack Obama Finally Exposed As A Total Failure. God Bless America by hercules07: 3:18pm On Nov 05, 2014|
Why do you keep dancing around issues, I was talking about terrorism globally, the issue in the middle east spawned a lot of the terrorism we have now.
|Foreign Affairs / Re: Barack Obama Finally Exposed As A Total Failure. God Bless America by hercules07: 3:15pm On Nov 05, 2014|
He does not want to be educated, he has brought the same attitude he has to GEJ to this discussion, when saner people and most Americans are unhappy about Bush and his cohorts, he is telling us porkies here.
|Foreign Affairs / Re: Barack Obama Finally Exposed As A Total Failure. God Bless America by hercules07: 3:08pm On Nov 05, 2014|
Do not mind the guy, terrorism skyrocketed during Bush's time, Saddam was keeping Al-queda out of Iraq, Bush had to go in and destabilise the whole of the middle east, his business partners, the Saudis have been sponsoring terrorism in the Middle East for eons.
|Foreign Affairs / Re: Barack Obama Finally Exposed As A Total Failure. God Bless America by hercules07: 3:07pm On Nov 05, 2014|
I can not see where I wrote about Obama being a man with my skin colour, we are talking about democrats and republicans not individuals. Bush put the Americans in the nonsense they are in now, he could not get Osama bin laden, he invaded Iraq and put the cost on a credit card, the great depression happened on his watch, the greatest attack on America happened under his watch, american embassies were attacked and people killed under his watch, please, Bush is the worst thing to have happened to the Americans in a very very long time, as per his policies towards Africa, he did not give a damn. Islamic terrorism exploded under Bush, for Christ's sake, the guy handled Iraq after the war like an amateur.
|Foreign Affairs / Re: Barack Obama Finally Exposed As A Total Failure. God Bless America by hercules07: 2:57pm On Nov 05, 2014|
I can not imagine anybody especially Africans rejoicing about republicans winning, the same set of people that have tried to repeal Obamacare 25 times in 6 years.
|Foreign Affairs / Re: Barack Obama Finally Exposed As A Total Failure. God Bless America by hercules07: 2:56pm On Nov 05, 2014|
Please read up about elections voting pattern in the US and stop this nonsense, the elections of Republicans is going to affect African Americans and Nigerians, those guys have no love for anybody not of their skin and class, and if they ever get the white house, just know that BH will escalate beyond anything you have ever witnessed, they will start their wars in the middle east and africa and BH will have new training facilities.
|Foreign Affairs / Re: Barack Obama Finally Exposed As A Total Failure. God Bless America by hercules07: 2:49pm On Nov 05, 2014|
Apparently you do not know about politics in the US, the turnout of democrats is usually low at these elections, also, the republicans have gerrymandered the districts so they will win, in 2 years democrats will still win the white house and at least one of the houses will be back in their control.
The issue of PDP or Jonathan being nothing more than failures is not up for debate, because the economy was rebased means Jonathan is trying abi when oil has been at record highs in the last 16 years yet no steady power.
|Politics / Re: Nigeria At Risk Over Falling Oil Price : FG by hercules07: 11:50am On Oct 27, 2014|
It is not a conspiracy, that is the actual fact, I do not think the Saudis are doing it willingly, the US is behind it and the intention is to cripple Russia's economy and probably cause Social unrest in Russia.
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