Kobojunkie:
You don't even know what Paul meant by that statement, do you? You have simply adopted the eejit interpretation given to you by your pastors — men whom you have set as gods over your lives — and conveniently concluded that it would be best not to learn for your self, abi? Good luck with your blind religion!

erniok:
■ So judging someone is the same as placing a curse? You really need to revisit your basics in English language. This is really so funny.
■ Where in the scripture did jesus say he came to save those cursed by God? I have noticed you have a penchant to quote what jesus never said. Jesus came to save all mankind both those under the law and those who are not under the law. Man fell when he ate the fruit and jesus came to restore that fall. Man was never cursed if you say he is please provide reference and do not quote gen 3 pls.

Bigseven:
between me and you who is sounding like someone who “my pastor says” ? You obviously cos you are confusing baby Christian. Well May that’s how you eat but remember the truth is one JESUS IS LORD

Ikanium:
we felt this was just a small kid thing and that he was going to change when he's all grown.

Oladhips:
■ The biggest mistake any parent can make while bringing up their kids

gidjah:
U tried BIKO,more oil on your head,the heresy is just too on another level .I have few too as close pals my female friend is a JW and a lecturer with us here though she get her craze but she is Avery mature advanced lady.drinks,partys, listen to all kinds of music classes including the one them develop from the other side etc.i just like her simplicity that's all.Thwmalea we have here can disturb for Africa but I keep telling them' I am a NO CROSSING ZONE ,!I am more advance than that level u kept your selves'.How can God curse children??I am still following may be some day I will get it Thier own ways .

Kobojunkie:
Stop lying!

The parent's made no mistake. The child had preferences. If the parents had forced the child to conform, he would have continued but hidden his problem from them. An issue concealed is not an issue resolved.

Oladhips:
■ Unfortunately same stuff happen to our last born [although not any related bad addiction] all in the name of he will change when he grow up.. A child can be easy control rather than waiting for them to grow up before taking action..

Kobojunkie:
I see you did not answer any of the questions I posed. Let's revisit this topic when you are ready, to be honest with yourself in this. This is much too early in the year to be playing useless word games.

erniok:
■ I answered all questions raised but with your closed mind, you couldn't absorb them. For you to claim that a curse and punishment is the same shows how you reason which is really too low.

Kobojunkie:
LOL... I don't belong to any of your Christian cults though. Since you think I am a baby Christian, that reveals you are simply spewing the vomit from one of your many pastors.

Kobojunkie:
You couldn't do anything to save him as a child yet now that he is an adult, you think it your place still to monitor his life and choices? One would expect that by now you would have learned to love him as he is. Is that too much for you to so?

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In case anyone would come in pretending Scripture on their side in this, make I help una small. In Genesis 3 vs 16, the Almighty who created man and certified man to be of good quality by His standard, took to washing His hands off the multiplying process --- childbearing--- which was meant to populate the earth with more of the man He had made after man fell. Guess what that meant? With God's curse on childbearing— a curse which rendered it unholy and not of His Kingdom— all who are born into this world were as a result born unholy and hence unrighteous(not of good quality), removed from God. No single individual born of a woman is born perfect from the womb.

So, whenever you look at a gay man or a disabled individual, realize that you are just as cursed as he is, only that your damage is just not as obvious as theirs may seem to you.

Kobojunkie:
Which God? The god of your pastors wey no even fit save many of your own gay pastors abi which one?

Go change yourself first before you go trying to change others.

Ikanium:
He's my parents last child, he's 19 now. I feel he was born gay because right from when he was a child, he acts like a woman. He'll prefer to play with dolls, he'll tie wrapper all the time, we felt this was just a small kid thing and that he was going to change when he's all grown. Unfortunately for us, i think he's gay now completely. I'm just devasted right now really don't know how to go about this.

I returned home for Christmas last year i couldn't believe what i saw my brother doing. I have had a discussion with my parents we really don't know what to do right now.

Any advice in the right direction will help please. Thank you.

Kobojunkie:
You didn't answer any of the questions. You are looking to assert your ideas even after I had explained what I meant by curses which are laid out in each of God's Laws to befall those who live in disobedience. So, no point going any further abeg! I am already bored. Too early in the year to play meaningless word games with anyone abeg!

Lifeinlight:
probably you didn't get it. There are many gays that are much more manly than straight guys. They have every physical attribute of a man that every woman wants, but they're gays. Some straight guys cannot stand them in physical fight. Not all gays act, walk or talk like women. There are many married men that are into this stuff too if you care to know. They no just fancy women.

Most gays looks physically masculine

erniok:
Bored? You should be with the teachings passed on to you. You couldn't refute any question passed on to you intelligently. Imagine saying curse equals punishment. Your posts were really laughable. Also you claim that jesus was imperfect even when pointed out that jesus is God. I bet you don't even pause to process your thoughts but must regurgitate whatever your leader must have taught you regardless of how stupid it sounds You really need to start studying the scriptures for yourself as you sound so awkward when you present your regurgitated views. You are simply incorrigible and probably irredeemable from whatever cult you follow.

Egbonmii:
First of all, what you need to do is, be calming down. In as much as this is new to you, this is not the end of the world. And you need to realize that your dear little brother, that you have known all these years, has not changed one bit overnight. If your brother has always annoyed you, he will still be the annoying type, and not just because he is gay. If you have been close to your brother, there is no reason why this should change.
Being gay is just one aspect of your brother, as in:
My brother is always funny
My brother is very intelligent
My brother is smart
My brother is gay
My brother never makes his bed
My brother does not know how to cook
My brother is the best ever

In other words, the fact that you have come to realize that your brother can only be intimate with someone like him, does not change him one bit from the person that you have always known him to be.
You can take the “holier than thou” attitude and think that he needs to conform with what everyone expects to be “normal” or “proper” behavior. But you can be assured that your brother has tried that even before you came to this realization.
This is certainly a distressing moment for all of you. But it does not have to be, except if you decide to make it so. If you are close to your brother and quite open with him, , you can discuss with him, without necessarily being judgmental. One thing which is sure is that, your brother did not choose this, but as you already noticed, it was already in his genes even before he was born, as you described from his behavior even as a kid. You or your parents could have maltreated him, as many people are suggesting here to make him more “masculine”. But that would have pushed him to pretend to be who he is not, to please you. You might think that, if he marries a woman, everything will be fine and good. But while he can do that to please you, what about the happiness of your brother and of the wife? Because, even though your brother might be “married”, there would be no intimacy in their relationship. I am quite sure it is not what you would wish for your brother.
I am hoping that your brother’s wellbeing is more important to you than what outsiders think of you. This is the moment you have to be present for your brother. You can use this difficult moment to build better relationship and understanding with your brother or you can push him under the “bus”, because you feel that the validation of outsiders is more import ant to you than your relationship with your brother. In which case you might as well throw the first stone or worse still push your brother to kill himself, because he brought “shame” to his family. The choice is yours.
If you are the religious type, do not forget what God said to Peter: “never call unclean what God has called clean” and also the basis of the new covenant: “Go out into the streets and invite ‘ANYONE’ you see on the streets so that there will be people in my feast”. So if God calls your brother clean, you should carefully consider before condemning your brother.

Kobojunkie:
***Yawn***

Kobojunkie:
You couldn't do anything to save him as a child yet now that he is an adult, you think it your place still to monitor his life and choices? One would expect that by now you would have learned to love him as he is. Is that too much for you to so?

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In case anyone would come in pretending Scripture on their side in this, make I help una small. In Genesis 3 vs 16, the Almighty who created man and certified man to be of good quality by His standard, took to washing His hands off the multiplying process --- childbearing--- which was meant to populate the earth with more of the man He had made after man fell. Guess what that meant? With God's curse on childbearing— a curse which rendered it unholy and not of His Kingdom— all who are born into this world were as a result born unholy and hence unrighteous(not of good quality), removed from God. No single individual born of a woman is born perfect from the womb.

So, whenever you look at a gay man or a disabled individual, realize that you are just as cursed as he is, only that your damage is just not as obvious as theirs may seem to you.

Ikanium:
He's my parents last child, he's 19 now. I feel he was born gay because right from when he was a child, he acts like a woman. He'll prefer to play with dolls, he'll tie wrapper all the time, we felt this was just a small kid thing and that he was going to change when he's all grown. Unfortunately for us, i think he's gay now completely. I'm just devasted right now really don't know how to go about this.

I returned home for Christmas last year i couldn't believe what i saw my brother doing. I have had a discussion with my parents we really don't know what to do right now.

Any advice in the right direction will help please. Thank you.

epainos:

Na waooo. The bolded part. Just read the strong tone like it is a fact. Like I said, you are all ignorant of the gay gene. It is time I stopped exchanging with uninformed people on this subject. Chai! And they will say Nigerians are intelligent. Lol. Out of 300 million people...1 million japa...and 25 did outstandingly well...So 25 people out of 300 million make Nigerians extremely intelligent. They don't count people like this who write rubbish..

Give me examples and let's analyse them na. Lol. The look is not the reason to say yes or no.

Hollywood decided to use masculine men. Lol. And you also fall for it. Lol. I am shocked at how people fall for plans of the small set to manipulate the majority. Na waoooo.

So, does it mean married men are muscular? And does it mean that muscular men are gays? Dey play.

Go check again well..not everyone in the business is naturally gay. And I stand by it...any muscular man in his early days is not gay...he is there cos of the money in it. Shikena.

tonymyke4life:


You guys spoilt him. Imagine wat u r saying, dat u felt it was just small kid stuff. because him na last B. Most gay people are from wealthy homes. U can't b gay and live in a ghetto area. Na only d neighborhood go make ur head dey correct. U av to live with the consequences of you guyz negligence. One man down! God help us.

Lifeinlight:
Do we have natural and artificial gay? You're just confusing yourself trying to be clever by half. Anybody can be lure into gayism. Just as any girl can be lure into prostitution. It is only left to the person to stay put or quit. I understand some are into it to get money, just as we have female prostitutes using it to make money. We also have those doing it for fun, just as we have female having sex with various guys for fun, unless the guy willingly give her or the gay partner money out of their wish, but not demanded by their sex partner.

However, those doing it for fun without exploiting it as a means of business, we cannot tell if they're naturally born gay or they got influenced into it. One thing you should understand is that either you're naturally born gay or being influenced into it, provided your body system got adapted for it, you'd enjoy it irrespective of wether you're born with it natural or being influenced

The monetizing aspect is a total different thing. Your background and person determine that. If you're from a comfortable home and you have a good job or businesses. Then obviously you'd venture into it for the purpose of FUN nothing else. You'd be the one giving to your sex partner if possible, because you have it and you love that person. If you're poor, you'd monetize it and also do it for fun. Even regular prostitutes had one or two customers that they probably love and give sex for free while they collect from others


Gay relationship is almost the same as that of the opposite sex. They have who they love and they make love without demanding for money unless one partner is willing to give the other out of his own wish because he has. Which is normal to give or share for someone you claimed to love. They won't even cheat on each other, while some will still cheat. Same applies to the opposite sex relationship.

santaclaws:


What steps did you guys take to help him develop masculine traits as a child? You see a boy acting like a little girl, y'all should have made sure he did more manly things like playing sports with males and generally reminding him that he's a boy. You don't allow a boy play with dolls, it's very wrong.

It may be a bit late now but there is nothing God cannot do. You all just need to pray for him cos if he's already having gay intercourse, then it's a serious issue... Nevertheless, God can change anyone.

xristos:
This is a Pro LGBTQ thread

The thread aims to promote homosexuality as natural which is never the case.
It's a mind game

By advised accordingly.

thaoriginator:
Castrate him

NuclearWinter:


No one is born gay

Someone turned him out .

Sit him down and ask him which of your relatives or neighbours fiddled his anus.