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Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by shota(m): 4:07am On Sep 06, 2014 |
onyeokwu: hahahaha . Now I see why you Efiks lose Bakassi to no tribe in Cameroon. Cos of your foolishness..You people should stop killing any more Obolo Ijaw in Akwa Ibom. The world should first know about your aggression on the Obolo Ijaw people before we start our counter action. . |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by shota(m): 5:40pm On Sep 17, 2014 |
ujoinme: We need more house helps in Rivers State so please apply for job there, you efik / Ibibio Niger Delta wannabe Mboko swine. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by shota(m): 5:45pm On Sep 17, 2014 |
ujoinme: We were minorities when we were all in EASTERN region. The Igbo people did not say over their dead body for us to have our state. Rivers state was created and some Igbos were added to us. We are not holding them or forcing them to stay with us. The Ikweres and Umumas are Igbos and we respect that. The same way in Akwa Ibom. The Obolo Ijaws were added to Akwa Ibom and it was fine. So not matter how minor they are, they want to join their brothers and there is nothing you Efik Ibibio animals can do about that.. Touch any more Obolo blood and see what happens to you murderous cows . Bunch of useless oppressive people. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by shota(m): 5:49pm On Sep 17, 2014 |
onyeokwu: No one is claiming Efik Ibibio land.. THE OBOLO natives said they are not EFIK/ IBIBIO so There is nothing you Ibibio / Efik people can do about that... If People from Uyo say they are not Efik, It would be their right to say so. If Bakassi people say they are Cameroonians and not Nigerians, it would be their right to say so. If Obudu or Ugep people say they want to join Benue or Taraba it woudl be their right to say so.. What is wrong with you people ?? THE OBOLO PEOPLE SAY they dont want to be in AKWA IBOM state and so it shall be. 1 Like |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by OboloMAN: 9:50am On Oct 16, 2014 |
the demand for the creation of Oil Rivers State predates the 2014 National Conference. It is significant to note that the Ijaw people through the Ijaw National Congress (INC) demanded for three homogenous states during the Babangida and Abacha eras to wit: Bayelsa, Oil Rivers and Toru-Ebe States. However, only Bayelsa State was eventually created. And more recently, when the National Assembly called for the submission of memorandum for the creation of states, the Ijaw people of Rivers and Akwa Ibom states submitted a memorandum for the creation of Oil Rivers State which was signed by all the Local Government Legislators, Houses of Assemblies members and National Assembly members of Ijaw extraction from Rivers and Akwa Ibom states. This requested was also presented before the Senate Committee on the Review of the 1999 Constitution by the leaders of the proposed Oil Rivers State in Calabar in 2012. 3. In any case Obong Victor Attah, Chief Nduese Essien and others who signed the petition against the creation of Oil Rivers State lacks the locus to do so as the proposed Oil Rivers State is only for the Ijaw people and land inhabited by the Ijaw people of Rivers and Akwa Ibom States. The petitioners are not part of the proposed state, hence they lack the locus to opposed the creation of Oil Rivers State. Therefore, we call on the relevant authorities to disregard the protest as the proposed Oil Rivers State deserved to be created on merit. 4. The IYC wish to make it abundantly clear that anybody or group of people opposing the creation of homogenous Ijaw states for the Ijaw people of Akwa Ibom and Rivers State on one hand, and the Ijaw people of Delta, Edo and Ondo States on the other hand are threats to the existence of Ijaw people and we are ready to take any step to protect our existence. The IYC would not sit back and allow Ijaw people to be politically and economically oppressed and suffocated in Akwa Ibom, 3 Likes |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by OboloMAN: 10:18am On Oct 16, 2014 |
Reps approve 71 amendments to Nigerian constitution Abuja – The House of Representatives on Wednesday in Abuja voted to effect 71 amendments to sections of the 1999 constitution. The lawmakers also backed the adoption of referendum for state creation. OIL RIVERS STATE IS A REALITY.. IJAWS ARE ONE 1 Like |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by shota(m): 12:32am On Oct 17, 2014 |
OboloMAN: WELL SAID. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Manzy17: 4:58pm On Nov 28, 2014 |
Well I enjoy this Argument but as an Obolo man I can proudly correct some impressions here. The Andoni also known as Obolo, Idoni apu, or Ido is Izon and to be precise the 1st son of Ijo. Presently they are their brother Oron do not speak Ijo but originally migrated out of their families and settled with the Efiks and Ibibios in Urombi, also known as Ramby in portuguese documents of our people. It is their stay in Urombi and inter-marriage that changed their linguistic construction into what we speak today as a language. Till present the neither an Obolo man or Oro son will agree to be Ibibio because they know they are not yet they do not deny their friendship with the Ibibios, Efiks or Annangs. Now Ibeno is Obolo and it was the Prince of Ibeno to founded Eket during the reign of king Nna Biget who was a tyrant ruler and did so many oppressive acts against Obolo sons and daughters. Yes till today in Ikot Abasi LGA there are still Obolo communities, Uta Ewa is one and from there to Okoroboile or Okoroinyong is not far. Also the the Andoni names especially some Old towns like Asarama, Alabie - Agwut Obolo, Gogo - Ngo Aya-ama, Iwoma etc. Ama means the same in all Izon groups from Akwa Ibom till Ondo. etc still has the Ijoness which we try to deny. Ayaile is purely an Ijo. denying Ijo heritage is sometimes good and sometimes dangerous to our politics as Obolo people. All Ijo do not speak one language due to their agelong History but that does not make them strangers. I am from Okoroboile a descendant from Inituk brother to the great Agalaga. I cannot deny my bloodline because of modern politics of fighting for place in the system. My Ancestor fought for Obolo sons not to be slaves and today we understand why we as Obolo people should stand for freedom and development. Eket has claimed Ibibio but was never founded by Ibibio man. It was from Eket that the Ibeno prince regrouped with a stronger force to destroy the tyrant reign of Nna Biget from the Asarama area. I think only an Obolo man knows his story. I think Obolo sons should ask questions as far back before Europeans came to avoid this misunderstandings and the political misinformation of our time. Obolo month bolo. We are the largest distinct Ijo clan. Our sons have begotten many like the Ohafia in Igbo land, Ogoloma in Okrika, Kala Ido in Kalabari, Bolo in Okrika, and many Opobo families, not forgetting the Aro people knwon as Arochukwu in Igbo land. We are more than we are presently, we should learn to value our heritage and fight for our unity rather than more divide which makes us less important and less-existent in the nation of Nigeria. Obolo itiki. 3 Likes |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by ujoinme: 5:15pm On Nov 28, 2014 |
shota: They can migrate to ijaw land/States and join their ijaw brothers if they like the land they occupy in Akwa Ibom Is not ijaw land. and as someone who is vested in the area i can tell you that that will be the last thing that any ijaw family in Eastern Obolo will do, because we dont trust the ijaw expansionist, When it comes to sharing in the presidential amnesty and things that matter in oil politics, The expansionist bring up a dichotomy and call us Akwa Ibom men, Not Ijaw men, so they can sideline us, Like i said mention 2 eastern obolo people that benefited from the amnesty program? The few Ijaw family thats reside in Eastern Obolo, will share a common cultural tie with the ijaws but not a political union, for we know how greedy and discriminatory you ijaw expansionist are. How many of our eastern obolo ijaws are in the presidency? how many has been empowered by NIMASSA,controlled by mainland ijaws? are we less educated than the mainland ijaw militants that are pilots today? You mainland ijaws expansionist should stay in your lane, and let us be. Any brotherliness that seeks to rob you of the little you have to add to his massive wealth is a brotherhood that must be resisted and resist it we shall. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by ujoinme: 5:34pm On Nov 28, 2014 |
Manzy17: The ijaws can be progenitors of Nigeria, Youroba, Igbo And hausa if they wish,claiming something does not make you have it! all we are saying is leave Akwa Ibom territory out of your oil rivers state, Akwa Ibom people want to remain in Akwa Ibom, not in a segregated Ijaw state. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by tuyetimi: 12:12pm On Jan 28, 2015 |
You told us of And on I people in eastern obolo and ibeno, who are they? Perhaps you may want to say they are efik people right? Very sorry about this. You have missed the point totally. Will you also say that Kalabari or Okrika are not Ijaws? [color=#770077][/color] [b][/b] ujoinme: |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by ijawcitizen(m): 12:12am On Jun 29, 2015 |
So far, all Andoni (Obolo-Ijaw) sons who have spoken up on this thread are for the inclusion of Eastern Obolo & Ibeno LGAs in the new homogenous Ijaw state. Let me call on an interesting fellow, NDPVF , a guy who claims Ibeno & Ibibio at will and interchangably, along with a strong attachment to Igbos (who evidently oppose Ijaw progress). NDPVF ...may we please hear from you, but you are adviced to go thru' all comments from page 1 |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by amanda2013(f): 1:24am On Jun 29, 2015 |
ijawcitizen:igbos oppose ijaw progress but voted massively for Goodluck Jonathan an ijaw man? You are pathetic. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by NDPVF(m): 5:31am On Jun 29, 2015 |
ijawcitizen:May i know the purpose of this?.Even if a state is about to be created,dont we have right to say we will be here or there?.May i remind you that at the pick of the event,our elders took a stand.I wont come here to be silly.Of course,am Ibibio,but am from Ibeno,and you dont know why.My "strong" attachment to Igbos is my right to choose friends among others,and shouldnt be misconstrued. I fought and defended Ijaw cause,more than i have done to Igbo cause,and people here will attest to that.so what do you mean?. 1 Like |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by NDPVF(m): 5:34am On Jun 29, 2015 |
amanda2013:My question,what does he intend to achieve with this.? |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by HopeAtHand: 5:58am On Jun 29, 2015 |
NDPVF: He intends to know if u're Ibeno(Ijaw) or Ibibio. If you're for Oil Rivers state or against it. As for me, the Ijaw in Rivers should get lost. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by NDPVF(m): 6:38am On Jun 29, 2015 |
HopeAtHand:Thats too hash!.Like i said earlier,am of Ibibio root,but am from Ibeno.Anybody from Eket or Esit-eket can easily explain what i mean.Iwuochang is my village,i wont go more than that,for pesonal reasons. As regards Ijaw/Ibeno,i am not unaware of our history.it is known fact here that Ijaws mixed here,via fishing,and it happened for decades ago.same as Ghananians.This issue he is trying to raise,sometimes do cause fight/quarells in my place.We and Eket people do fight over related issues,and others.i dont want to wash my dirts in the public.Thats why i told him,"our elders took a stand on this matter,during the pick of the event". Fact,are their people here with Ijaw roots?.yes.Are there people here with Ghananian root? yes. As regards Ijaws in Rivers state. Like i always tell you,Rivers state is "Nigeria creation".Before the word "Rivers state",their has been people living there.The Ijaws in Rivers state,are not "tenants".They are aborigins.They had inhabited their current location before anything "Rivers state" was created.My point?.Saying "As for Ijaws in Rivers state,they should get lost",is really bad.They are not getting lost anywhere.They are in their fore-fathers land,and hence,ain't getting lost anywhere.They also has right to agitate for their own state.Should Nigeria break today,and Ijaws wanted to have their own country,Ijaws in Rivers are not going to pack out.Rivers state will simple be divided,and everybody answers his fathers name. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by HopeAtHand: 7:00am On Jun 29, 2015 |
NDPVF: Ijaws migrated into Rivers and other parts from Bayelsa..if they wanted a state they shouldn't ask for lands that was given to them to occupy by their hosts to be a part of their new state.it is an insult to the sensibilities of others. Whenever they are tired of Rivers, which they will soon, they shouldn't ask beyond their Riverine swamplands.. In Rivers, Bonny history, Kalabari, Okrika, Opobo are well documented explaining when such towns were formed and by who. Ikwerre is the Aboriginal owners of Rivers. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by NDPVF(m): 7:20am On Jun 29, 2015 |
[s] HopeAtHand:[/s]Ikwerre is the owner of "Rivers" or porthacourt?. How about Ogoni?. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by HopeAtHand: 7:36am On Jun 29, 2015 |
NDPVF: Ikwerre is the Owner of Rivers...Ogoni people?? Those ones are just difficult to understand. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by NDPVF(m): 8:20am On Jun 29, 2015 |
HopeAtHand:Dont fall victim of what you always accuse others of.Ikwerre doesnt own Rivers state.If you talking of owning PH,i will agree with you.But Rivers state as a whole?.You are being plain greedy.Ikwerre has only 4 local governments in Rivers state.Ogonis,Ijaws etc,also has.so stop grabbing other peoples land. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by fineguy11(m): 8:20am On Jun 29, 2015 |
Rubbish...if ijaws are tired of staying in akwaibom,they shld relocate to another state...Akwaibom will not give out an inch of our territory... |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by HopeAtHand: 1:08pm On Jun 29, 2015 |
NDPVF: Yea, 4 but because of our population can easily be split into 10 if we want cos they are big enough both in area and population.. Akwa Ibom smaller than Rivers State in Landmass has 31LGAs while Rivers has 23.if Akwaibom did things like us then they sould have like 12 or 11 LGAs. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Manzy17: 11:33am On Sep 08, 2015 |
The Ikwerre Man who speak of owning Rivers State and Port Harcourt is a big comedian. The Akwa Ibom who says that other people's ancestral land in Akwa Ibom state is his own. All these comedians because of state creation? Well all men to their comic opinion including mine. But with the seriousness of this discussion I say this. I as an Obolo man have no grudge with any Ibibio, Annang, Efik, Igbo or Ikwerre man. Whoever wants to be sentimental has his right to do so but to me clamoring for a state where the oppression will be less is not bad. I know by these group leaving it will reduce the wealth of their present states and as such I know jealousy is the reason of these online quarrels. No doubt. But somehow those who are against the creation of Toru Ebe and Oil Rivers States are not wrong my reason is that development does not come by more division it comes by proper understand for its need by the people involved. Most Ikwerre people are a collection of Benin, Ijo and Ibos and because Igbo proximity they adopted the name Ikwerrela. By reasoning of Agreeing to be one. Port Harcourt is an ancestral home to both the Ikwerres and Okrikas of Ijo extract. Diobu (Dinobu) is an Okrika word but the people are Ancestrally Ikwerre. The name came as a result of the civil war between Obumotu (Port Harcourt South) a section of the Rebisi kingdom in Port Harcourt North and part of Obio/Apkor a in the mile 3 Axis. These predated the independence of Nigeria or Rivers State as a state. The defunct Obumotu came by Harcourt needing the water terminals for sea business. This is why the Harcourt Quarters was at Moore House in the Borikiri Ama of Obumotu. The boundary of these group is clear and documents exists signed by the chiefs of Obumotu an the Rebisi king for the city to be born. For the aspect of Akwa Ibom Ijos I would say that they remain a minority there and have often suffered during government policies concerning the none Ibibio groups. Only Annang could withstand the Ibibio political dominance because of their number. Oro and Obolo have one father Abang. Due to their sojourning with the Efiks, Ibibios and Annangs at Camoroun mountains so truly one could calle them siblings for years of staying together but since they still remember their root as Ijaw will you blame them of accepting their root? My Ibeno brother is free to accept Ibibio if he wants that will not stop me as. An Eastern Obolo man from seeing him as my brother. And Ibibio man is a closer friend. The states remain one is not bad and if created it still should not be bad. Someone asked about Ogoni. Please the Ogoni has nothing to do with Ghana that is a political history to control from the Bonny axis. The Ogonis where also one of the families that stayed at the cameroon mountains and migrated long before the Obolo and Oro groups and settled in hinterlands while the Obolo settled below. They are also close but constant war for lands made them enemies which is fast healing now. Plz what is far greater than all these is the unity of all tribes in Niger Delta. He have bigger challenges than all these irrelevant sentiments. Before state creation we all worked together. If we end the sentiments we can still have many states fight for a place for the national marginalisation of the region a house divided against itself will not stand. Let me point out something, during Niger Delta agitations people from Akwa Ibom and Cross River felt less concerned to the extent that the Ijaws were blacklisted as naturally restive. Unity brings progress. Even in Bakassi crises people from Rivers had to go to cross river to ease the brutal treatment of the gendarmmes against the Oron and Ijaw inhabitants of the area. So until the sentiments are taken down we cannot make the federal government value each group despite the language spoken. Please let us all drop our sentiments and be one. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Manzy17: 11:37am On Sep 08, 2015 |
The Ikwerre Man who speak of owning Rivers State and Port Harcourt is a big comedian. The Akwa Ibom who says that other people's ancestral land in Akwa Ibom state is his own. All these comedians because of state creation? Well all men to their comic opinion including mine. But with the seriousness of this discussion I say this. I as an Obolo man have no grudge with any Ibibio, Annang, Efik, Igbo or Ikwerre man. Whoever wants to be sentimental has his right to do so but to me clamoring for a state where the oppression will be less is not bad. I know by these group leaving it will reduce the wealth of their present states and as such I know jealousy is the reason of these online quarrels. No doubt. But somehow those who are against the creation of Toru Ebe and Oil Rivers States are not wrong my reason is that development does not come by more division it comes by proper understand for its need by the people involved. Most Ikwerre people are a collection of Benin, Ijo and Ibos and because Igbo proximity they adopted the name Ikwerrela. By reasoning of Agreeing to be one. Port Harcourt is an ancestral home to both the Ikwerres and Okrikas of Ijo extract. Diobu (Dinobu) is an Okrika word but the people are Ancestrally Ikwerre. The name came as a result of the civil war between Obumotu (Port Harcourt South) a section of the Rebisi kingdom in Port Harcourt North and part of Obio/Apkor a in the mile 3 Axis. These predated the independence of Nigeria or Rivers State as a state. The defunct Obumotu came by Harcourt needing the water terminals for sea business. This is why the Harcourt Quarters was at Moore House in the Borikiri Ama of Obumotu. The boundary of these group is clear and documents exists signed by the chiefs of Obumotu an the Rebisi king for the city to be born. For the aspect of Akwa Ibom Ijos I would say that they remain a minority there and have often suffered during government policies concerning the none Ibibio groups. Only Annang could withstand the Ibibio political dominance because of their number. Oro and Obolo have one father Abang. Due to their sojourning with the Efiks, Ibibios and Annangs at Camoroun mountains so truly one could calle them siblings for years of staying together but since they still remember their root as Ijaw will you blame them of accepting their root? My Ibeno brother is free to accept Ibibio if he wants that will not stop me as. An Eastern Obolo man from seeing him as my brother. And Ibibio man is a closer friend. The states remain one is not bad and if created it still should not be bad. Someone asked about Ogoni. Please the Ogoni has nothing to do with Ghana that is a political history to control from the Bonny axis. The Ogonis where also one of the families that stayed at the cameroon mountains and migrated long before the Obolo and Oro groups and settled in hinterlands while the Obolo settled below. They are also close but constant war for lands made them enemies which is fast healing now. Plz what is far greater than all these is the unity of all tribes in Niger Delta. He have bigger challenges than all these irrelevant sentiments. Before state creation we all worked together. If we end the sentiments we can still have many states fight for a place for the national marginalisation of the region a house divided against itself will not stand. Let me point out something, during Niger Delta agitations people from Akwa Ibom and Cross River felt less concerned to the extent that the Ijaws were blacklisted as naturally restive. Unity brings progress. Even in Bakassi crises people from Rivers had to go to cross river to ease the brutal treatment of the gendarmmes against the Oron and Ijaw inhabitants of the area. So until the sentiments are taken down we cannot make the federal government value each group despite the language spoken. Please let us all drop our sentiments and be one. Every man in each state is indigenous so to say Ijaws should leave is a wrong statement to make. Such persons might instigate problems of genocide to claim people's property and that is very bad for social integration. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Nobody: 12:01pm On Sep 08, 2015 |
all this argument is just for only one reason oil. if the lands has no oil, there wont be this arguments. It is easy for us to accuse the North and West of wanting one Nigeria because of oil. We are also doing exactly d same thing. Resisting a state creation because there is oil in the propose state. What a shame? |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Nobody: 12:02pm On Sep 08, 2015 |
fineguy11: Would you have mind if the land under discussion has no oil? |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by shota(m): 2:45pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
Nctrice: If the purpose for state creation is well explained or defined with Delta and Edo or even Kwara and present day Rivers state as examples to exaplain that state creation has got no ethnic agenda but for development sake, These Akwa Ibom people would have no point to stop the creation of Oil Rivers State. The so called places of Akwa Ibom to be in the new Oil Rivers State have been neglected and oppressed . They are Nigerians living in those places and Nigeria is not an Apartheid state so even if the residents there are Efiks or Ibibios, they have the right to belong to where they want to belong for the purpose of development . It is therefore not a question of natives or non natives but a question of neglected Nigerians. Those Akwa Ibom people kicking against the move do not live in those places and have never lived there so they can not speak on behalf of the people who live there . |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Nobody: 1:07am On Dec 07, 2015 |
ijawcitizen: TonyeBarcanista - can't u make a post without calling the igbos |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Amadi45(f): 2:04am On Dec 07, 2015 |
TonyeBarcaniata.
so you are "ijawcitizen" |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by EasternPride: 2:38am On Dec 07, 2015 |
chuna1985: I don't even know what these ijaw people have turned to overnight, these guys better chill. We didn't make Jona lose election. |
Re: Creation Of "Oil River State" From Akwa-ibom And Rivers State by Nobody: 7:25am On Dec 07, 2015 |
1shortblackboy: No. It will end when every nuclear family becomes a country. No I forgot. Till when every individual in every nuclear family becomes a state or a country. |
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