badnature:
this things of spirit are foolishness to the wise men of this world

This is very true, that's why grown ups can't tell they are being ripped by this grifter.

I pray for a spirit of discernment and a healthy dose of common sense for you in Jesus name amen!

an expose on TB Joshua and clear evidence he is a devil worshipper.

https://www.nairaland.com/2373956/tb-joshua-servant-devil-exposed

Beey:
No man can curse whom God has blessed.We have started to see beyond the manipulators.Every time you get them on an uncomfortable zone, they are quick to pronounce curses.Even Jesus said that we should love our enemies and pray for them.So in which capacity are you standing to call people cursed? Like I mentioned in an earlier post, we are no longer afraid of men.We fear only God who can destroy both the body and the soul.

Don't buy market u don't know how it was purchased. Na the stvpid bugaboo of a guy said "I should curse him behalf of TB" look at u quoting bible u never read "love ur enemies" what can u infer from the conotation of the guy's comments towards the man of God? LOVE? Who is he to judge? Ur seeing beyond "u don't fear man but God" ur a such a clown, go to tv insult a prophet weda ur life go remain the same . Ppl go just dey behind their computer typing with their lepros limb and empty skull.

vooks:

The charlatan master video editor does not even know that you exist and here you are hurling invectives for him.
May the Lord have mercy on your puny brains

have giving up on u. no hope for u liar

hello?? im sure you have also read your bible right? elisha did miracles through staff, wood. etc. elisha gave his staff to his aid to heal the shunamite woman's dead son. jesus himself used water, saliva and clay. since he was JESUS you'd think that he didnt need to do that right? jesus could have simply just said ''be healed'' right?. jesus actually spat on people's eyes. sometimes he said ''be healed'',other times he spat on their eyes and asked them to go wash. that is to tell you that every case is different. imagine if tb joshua or any pastor does that today? the world will say he's evil.
acts 19:12 even handkerchiefs and aprons of apostle paul were used to heal the sick. apostle paul's shadow was also effective in healing the sick. remember moses staff that was used to part the red sea?? remember noah's ark and how people used to go rub their bodies in poop just to get healed?

this isnt in any way relating to voodoo. remember the passover and how the israelites had to mark their doors with blood so as to avoid dying alongside the egyptians?
faith is the most important thing. some people go to pastors not because they dont have faith on their own but because pastors ar usually morr grounded spiritually and have more faith. bye!

Beey:
He gave you what say it again please? all these paraphanelia that pastors give people in the name if miracle , healing, protection etc.It leaves me wondering how different these churches are from those who practice voodoo.The voodoo people carry charms and other witchcraft materials.When you go around carrying water, bracelets or the anointing oil, are you any better?The woman with the issue of blood was healed through faith, the servant of the roman centurion was healed through faith.I am yet to read a scripture where Jesus gave people things to carry around.Study your Bibles like the Berean Christians & test pastoral teachings according to the scripture.Then, you'll not be tossed about by every wind of doctrine!

i know what ''apparition'' means.

why he chooses to come out after service these days i cant tell. its obviously not my business. my pastor was once away for months. nobody rained insults or cussed out on him. we simply waited patiently for his return. he attended all of his court meetings, im sure the op doesnt know this. hes one of the most famous people in the world so if he wanted to hide in mexico, he couldnt even if he tried because he would have been caught and extradited.

faith bracelet can be just a random bracelet to anyone, but to other SCOAN members it is believed to have the healing, delivering and protection power through faith in our lord jesus christ. the faith bracelet is ''only'' given as a ''gift'' from prophet tb joshua to whoever he wants to give it to. it is never to be sold.

ZUBY77:



Please don't be angry.

Why did he have to come out after service?
Who conducted the service for him?
Do you know the meaning of apparition like the OP mentioned?
Whatt is faith bracelet?

trapQ:
i know what ''apparition'' means.

why he chooses to come out after service these days i cant tell. its obviously not my business. my pastor was once away for months. nobody rained insults or cussed out on him. we simply waited patiently for his return. he attended all of his court meetings, im sure the op doesnt know this. hes one of the most famous people in the world so if he wanted to hide in mexico, he couldnt even if he tried because he would have been caught and extradited.

faith bracelet can be just a random bracelet to anyone, but to other SCOAN members it is believed to have the healing, delivering and protection power through faith in our lord jesus christ. the faith bracelet is ''only'' given as a ''gift'' from prophet tb joshua to whoever he wants to give it to. it is never to be sold.

I see.. Thanks for the explanations.. But you have a very long way to go.

lmao.... says the spiritually blind person. remove the speck from your own eyes first

bye!

ZUBY77:



I see.. Thanks for the explanations.. But you have a very long way to go.

trapQ:
lmao.... says the spiritually blind person. remove the speck from your own eyes first

bye!

The blame is on the Zoo were you were born..
It wasn't your fault.
And the worst part is that you have no mental capacity to ever come out of it.

Spiritual satellite.

gabe15:
have giving up on u. no hope for u liar

I won't give up on you. I pray that your eyes may be opened that you may see the charlatan for what he is.

In the meantime,when you see TB Joshua, please let me know.

He is on the run from justice. 4 months and counting. Either he is severely sick and his witchcraft can't heal him and he is afraid of being seen sick or he is really scared of jail, or BOTH!

trapQ:
i know what ''apparition'' means.

why he chooses to come out after service these days i cant tell. its obviously not my business. my pastor was once away for months. nobody rained insults or cussed out on him. we simply waited patiently for his return. he attended all of his court meetings, im sure the op doesnt know this. hes one of the most famous people in the world so if he wanted to hide in mexico, he couldnt even if he tried because he would have been caught and extradited.

faith bracelet can be just a random bracelet to anyone, but to other SCOAN members it is believed to have the healing, delivering and protection power through faith in our lord jesus christ. the faith bracelet is ''only'' given as a ''gift'' from prophet tb joshua to whoever he wants to give it to. it is never to be sold.

You are lying.
The Coroner made 4 attempts to have TB Joshua at the enquiry but he snubbed all of them.

TB joshua is either nursing a major sickness and is afraid of appearing 'weak' to his sheeple or he is a fugitive from justice for his 116 human sacrifices. I favor this because his disappearance coincided with the Coroner's report. I don't believe in coincidences

Now, tell me exactly WHERE you saw him

Let's consider too that he could be too sick to face the public and none of his voodoo is working

You all make me laugh over your arguments about the Man of God and people's believes about him. This is purely a personal matter and your arguments cannot change a thing about personal convictions.

Is that not why we have Islam & Christianity, Redeemed & Catholic, PFN & CAN, etc.

So, I beg you all to respect one another and appreciate each other's differences in believes and let God do his own work of judging. Why would any Man want to act God or play his role for him?

Prophet T.B. Joshua is a reserved man of God and would not be happy to see people entering into altercation with others in the guise of defending him. His ministry has served as a "mecca" to the whole world and a major attraction for visitors coming into Nigeria.

The Late President Yar'Adua recognised the contribution of the Man of God and his ministry to national development, humanitarian activities and acknowledged that most Nigerian overseas high commission earn most of their revenue from tourists/pilgrims coming into Nigeria to visit SCOAN. On the back of this, he was given a National Honour of Officer of the Order of Federal Republic (OFR).

For those people who need to seek spiritual/divine help in his church, why would anyone want to serve as a stumbling block on their way? Why would you want to dissuade people from their healing and miracles for reasons that profit neither you nor the kingdom of Heaven.

Friends, I believe we can do a better investigation and also seek divine revelations if spiritual things are not clear to us. SCOAN or Prophet T.B. Joshua does not compete with anyone or any ministry. His ministry is over 20 years old and he is still standing strong despite all the trials and tribulations he has passed through.
[Click this link to watch his humbling story:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hz34DULV8M]

So who can dishonour whom God has honoured?

spokesboy:
You all make me laugh over your arguments about the Man of God and people's believes about him. This is purely a personal matter and your arguments cannot change a thing about personal convictions.

Is that not why we have Islam & Christianity, Redeemed & Catholic, PFN & CAN, etc.

So, I beg you all to respect one another and appreciate each other's differences in believes and let God do his own work of judging. Why would any Man want to act God or play his role for him?

Prophet T.B. Joshua is a reserved man of God and would not be happy to see people entering into altercation with others in the guise of defending him. His ministry has served as a "mecca" to the whole world and a major attraction for visitors coming into Nigeria.

The Late President Yar'Adua recognised the contribution of the Man of God and his ministry to national development, humanitarian activities and acknowledged that most Nigerian overseas high commission earn most of their revenue from tourists/pilgrims coming into Nigeria to visit SCOAN. On the back of this, he was given a National Honour of Officer of the Order of Federal Republic (OFR).

For those people who need to seek spiritual/divine help in his church, why would anyone want to serve as a stumbling block on their way? Why would you want to dissuade people from their healing and miracles for reasons that profit neither you or the kingdom of Heaven.

Friends, I believe we can do a better investigation and also seek divine revelations if spiritual things are not clear to us. SCOAN or Prophet T.B. Joshua does not compete with anyone or any ministry. His ministry is over 20 years old and he is still standing strong despite all the trials and tribulations he has passed through.
[Click this link to watch his humbling story:
So who can dishonour whom God has honoured?

Negro please!
You don't work to be recognized by men.

This charlatan killed 116 hapless fools and is on the run from justice

trapQ:
hello?? im sure you have also read your bible right? elisha did miracles through staff, wood. etc. elisha gave his staff to his aid to heal the shunamite woman's dead son. jesus himself used water, saliva and clay. since he was JESUS you'd think that he didnt need to do that right? jesus could have simply just said ''be healed'' right?. jesus actually spat on people's eyes. sometimes he said ''be healed'',other times he spat on their eyes and asked them to go wash. that is to tell you that every case is different. imagine if tb joshua or any pastor does that today? the world will say he's evil.
acts 19:12 even handkerchiefs and aprons of apostle paul were used to heal the sick. apostle paul's shadow was also effective in healing the sick. remember moses staff that was used to part the red sea?? remember noah's ark and how people used to go rub their bodies in poop just to get healed?

this isnt in any way relating to voodoo. remember the passover and how the israelites had to mark their doors with blood so as to avoid dying alongside the egyptians?
faith is the most important thing. some people go to pastors not because they dont have faith on their own but because pastors ar usually morr grounded spiritually and have more faith. bye!

Jesus spat on mud and spoke to the waves to be still because He is God and has power over nature.Moses use of staff was a directive.All these examples of the prophets of old that you give, one thing is for sure.In the old days God spoke to us through the prophets, but when Jesus died, we got direct access to the father.We no longer needed to offer sacrifices or use mediators.Jesus restored our relationship with God.In these days , God speaks to us through the Holy Spirit and His word. I saw a pool of "Bethesda" where people dip themselves in dirty muddy water to get healed in a bid to copy the Biblical Bethesda?But do they get healed? Peter's shadow healed but should we now be standing behind people's shadows for healing? All we need is faith not drama.By the way I saw a clip on youtube where the so-called prophet was telling a woman to squeeze her naked breast in front of the church to be healed from cancer.My jaw instantly dropped & I felt sick to my marrows.

victorazy:


Don't buy market u don't know how it was purchased. Na the stvpid bugaboo of a guy said "I should curse him behalf of TB" look at u quoting bible u never read "love ur enemies" what can u infer from the conotation of the guy's comments towards the man of God? LOVE? Who is he to judge? Ur seeing beyond "u don't fear man but God" ur a such a clown, go to tv insult a prophet weda ur life go remain the same . Ppl go just dey behind their computer typing with their lepros limb and empty skull.

The devil is a liar! You cannot dine with him unless you are his follower.That's why our job here is to expose all those working for him.Yes , if indeed you are the good Christian you profess to be, shouldn't you be loving is your enemies and praying for us instead of hurling curses? Indeed we shall know them by their fruits.Like I said in another statement, you cannot curse us because we are blessed.Our protection does not come from bracelets, it comes from God Almighty himself. Everytime you expose Jezebel, the followers are quick to curse.We are blessed beyond any curse.Those who sit in circles to plan evil, if their gatherings are not of God, they must scatter 7 ways.You see the gallow that Herman had prepared for the Hebrew people, he ended up hanging on it himself.Be careful what you wish others.You are not God. He blesses whoever He wants to bless.

Beey:
The devil is a liar! You cannot dine with him unless you are his follower.That's why our job here is to expose all those working for him.Yes , if indeed you are the good Christian you profess to be, shouldn't you be loving is your enemies and praying for us instead of hurling curses? Indeed we shall know them by their fruits.Like I said in another statement, you cannot curse us because we are blessed.Our protection does not come from bracelets, it comes from God Almighty himself. Everytime you expose Jezebel, the followers are quick to curse.We are blessed beyond any curse.Those who sit in circles to plan evil, if their gatherings are not of God, they must scatter 7 ways.You see the gallow that Herman had prepared for the Hebrew people, he ended up hanging on it himself.Be careful what you wish others.You are not God. He blesses whoever He wants to bless.

My sister I thank God ur not a novis. Your getting everything twisted. Am not TBJ church member and I never attended his church, but is very wrong to harm a prophet. This guy ur defending is not normal, I never cursed him but he cursed himself. He said "I should curse him on behalf of TBJ" and I replied him well cuz he has no right to judge (even Jesus cursed a tree that denied him of fruit) maybe u never know. Can I ask u a question? Did this guy ur defending love TBJ as his enemy?

victorazy:


My sister I thank God ur not a novis. Your getting everything twisted. Am not TBJ church member and I never attended his church, but is very wrong to harm a prophet. This guy ur defending is not normal, I never cursed him but he cursed himself. He said "I should curse him on behalf of TBJ" and I replied him well cuz he has no right to judge (even Jesus cursed a tree that denied him of fruit) maybe u never know. Can I ask u a question? Did this guy ur defending love TBJ as his enemy?

This charlatan has been MIA for close to 4 months and I noticed he refused to cooperate with the Coroner inquiry making all sorts of excuses and placing all hurdles.

We have a duty to expose all works of wickedness.

TB Joshua is totally unrepentant over his 116 human sacrifices. He blames 'hovering' aircrafts and 'controlled demolition'.

How do you reason with such idiocy?

Right now he is a fugitive from justice. He never returned from Mexico.

All this and you are busy hurling curses.

The good thing is your curses are harmless and worthless. Instead of banging your head against the wall, try and engage your brains for once.

if you read me correctly I said I saw him at the SCOAN ikotun egbe , Lagos. if you're in doubt, you can go there yourself. at the close of the service he'll come out to see people. he's very much hale and hearty. don't believe everything you see or read.

vooks:


You are lying.
The Coroner made 4 attempts to have TB Joshua at the enquiry but he snubbed all of them.

TB joshua is either nursing a major sickness and is afraid of appearing 'weak' to his sheeple or he is a fugitive from justice for his 116 human sacrifices. I favor this because his disappearance coincided with the Coroner's report. I don't believe in coincidences

Now, tell me exactly WHERE you saw him

between both of us. you sound like a paranoid schizophrenic. get help!

you don't even know where I am presently. you are the only one in a zoo here. scumbag!

ZUBY77:



The blame is on the Zoo were you were born..
It wasn't your fault.
And the worst part is that you have no mental capacity to ever come out of it.

Spiritual satellite.

did apostle Paul whose aprons and handkerchiefs healed people come before or after Jesus Christ? he clearly came after. no one is offering sacrifices here. nowhere in the bible was it stated that Christians shouldn't use mediators. anointing oil or "Olive oil" is used by almost every church in Nigeria so why single out on prophet tb Joshua? about every church has their stickers too and wrist bands so why single out on tb Joshua alone? that to me is very hypocritical. or is it because of the "supposed" miracles and deliverances being done by him?

if anything this is a man to emulate- his kindness, philanthropy, and love for all race and ethnicity is unmatchable. unlike other prominent ministers in the country, he is humble and doesn't feel the need to lavish money on private jets nor expensive cars.

this is about self conviction. I am convicted in my heart that tb Joshua is a genuine man of God. and you have a right to your beliefs as well. Christianity is a relationship with God, not just a "DOs and DONTs book"
shalom!!!!

Beey:
Jesus spat on mud and spoke to the waves to be still because He is God and has power over nature.Moses use of staff was a directive.All these examples of the prophets of old that you give, one thing is for sure.In the old days God spoke to us through the prophets, but when Jesus died, we got direct access to the father.We no longer needed to offer sacrifices or use mediators.Jesus restored our relationship with God.In these days , God speaks to us through the Holy Spirit and His word. I saw a pool of "Bethesda" where people dip themselves in dirty muddy water to get healed in a bid to copy the Biblical Bethesda?But do they get healed? Peter's shadow healed but should we now be standing behind people's shadows for healing? All we need is faith not drama.By the way I saw a clip on youtube where the so-called prophet was telling a woman to squeeze her naked breast in front of the church to be healed from cancer.My jaw instantly dropped & I felt sick to my marrows.

trapQ:
if you read me correctly I said I saw him at the SCOAN ikotun egbe , Lagos. if you're in doubt, you can go there yourself. at the close of the service he'll come out to see people. he's very much hale and hearty. don't believe everything you see or read.

How many SCOANS are there because I seen nobody over there?

I don't know what you are smoking but it sure gives vivid apparitions

dont ask baseless questions if you're only going to discredit my answers. what part of "I saw him" don't you understand?? does it look like I'm getting paid to waste previous minutes on arguments? If actually you followed the news like you said then you'll know that he requested to see all foreigners last Sunday and this coming Sunday too. keep wasting your life bashing people while your mates make millions.

I'm done with this thread.

vooks:

How many SCOANS are there because I seen nobody over there?

I don't know what you are smoking but it sure gives vivid apparitions

trapQ:
dont ask baseless questions if you're only going to discredit my answers. what part of "I saw him" don't you understand?? does it look like I'm getting paid to waste previous minutes on arguments? If actually you followed the news like you said then you'll know that he requested to see all foreigners last Sunday and this coming Sunday too. keep wasting your life bashing people while your mates make millions.

I'm done with this thread.

Funny because my foreigner guest was not asked to see nobody

When will you quit lying for a charlatan?

It sounds like @Vooks is a secret admirer of Prophet T. B. Joshua but only frustrated not seeing him for a long time. How come you have a foreigner guest who "was not asked to see nobody".
Heya! I sense you are a secret stalker of the great Prophet and only pretending to us here. Even your thread speaks volume -"Why is TB Joshua hiding in Mexico". Gbam!!!
THREAD CLOSED!

vooks:

Funny because my foreigner guest was not asked to see nobody

When will you quit lying for a charlatan?

spokesboy:
It sounds like @Vooks is a secret admirer of Prophet T. B. Joshua but only frustrated not seeing him for a long time. How come you have a foreigner guest who "was not asked to see nobody".
Heya! I sense you are a secret stalker of the great Prophet and only pretending to us here. Even your thread speaks volume -"Why is TB Joshua hiding in Mexico". Gbam!!!
THREAD CLOSED!

Good to have PSYCHOanalysts on board. When last did you see him?

Tomorrow is Lord's Day, another opportunity for SCOANITES to lie for their charlatan and tell us they saw him somewhere.

The negro can't hide forever

trapQ:
did apostle Paul whose aprons and handkerchiefs healed people come before or after Jesus Christ? he clearly came after. no one is offering sacrifices here. nowhere in the bible was it stated that Christians shouldn't use mediators. anointing oil or "Olive oil" is used by almost every church in Nigeria so why single out on prophet tb Joshua? about every church has their stickers too and wrist bands so why single out on tb Joshua alone? that to me is very hypocritical. or is it because of the "supposed" miracles and deliverances being done by him?

if anything this is a man to emulate- his kindness, philanthropy, and love for all race and ethnicity is unmatchable. unlike other prominent ministers in the country, he is humble and doesn't feel the need to lavish money on private jets nor https://www.nairaland.com/newpost?topic=2516822&post=36861594 cars.

this is about self conviction. I am convicted in my heart that tb Joshua is a genuine man of God. and you have a right to your beliefs as well. Christianity is a relationship with God, not just a "DOs and DONTs book"
shalom!!!!

I am actually not a Nigerian.If at all other pastors use bracelets & sell bottles of oil, I 'd say the same thing of them.That they are fake.The Bible is clear that light & darkness have no fellowship.When you are constantly in the presence of God, I don't see how you can be demon possessed because the Holy Spirit becomes your hedge of protection.Like I said earlier, it's Biblical to use anointing oil for reasons stated in the Bible such as praying for the sick or setting apart as in dedication of kings, priests, babies etc.But when a pastor sells you oil to be rubbing every day for a month or so, that now becomes ABUSE of anointing oil.I agree with you that TB Joshua is very philanthropic.But the Bible is very clear that we are saved by Grace and not works lest any man should boast.A man was brought to Jesus for healing.The apostles asked if it was from his own sins or those of his parents that he was sick? Jesus said that it wasn't for either, but for God's glory.My question then is, why is it that when people go to TB Joshua, it's never for God's glory, but there is always a demon to be cast out? Also you did not respond, I said there is youtube video of him telling a woman to squeeze out her bare breast in church in order to be healed from cancer and also a man with bare buttocks for the same reason.If you like I can post those videos here.Is this the new trend of getting naked in church in order to be healed?It's about time Christians stopped to chase after men and begin to chase after God!

note: the morning water wasnt actually for sale. the books and CDs are. before now, the morning water was given freely. they only started selling it when the demand outweighed the supply. I mean people coming everyday for it when they already had it. did you know that mary Magdalene was possessed?? you could eat, live, sleep in the church and still be possessed. or do think gay people don't attend churches?

anointing oil is being sold in my church, and wrist bands and stickers. I don't see people calling my pastor fake. now when people go to TB Joshua for healing, he makes it clear that JESUS is the healer, not him. it is ALWAYS for GODs glory. this is always over emphasized at the SCOAN, and that is why the first they say after deliverance is THANK YOU JESUS.

there isnt always a demon to be cast out, and not everyone is possessed. I don't know where you got this from. now concerning the woman with cancer, I havnt seen the video- but he didn't touch her breasts did he?? I'll make further comments when I see the video. also like I told you, JESUS spat on blind people before healing them. does it mean there was no other way of healing them? TB Joshua also emphasises that people shouldn't run after men of God but run to JESUS and be free from sin.

Beey:
I am actually not a Nigerian.If at all other pastors use bracelets & sell bottles of oil, I 'd say the same thing of them.That they are fake.The Bible is clear that light & darkness have no fellowship.When you are constantly in the presence of God, I don't see how you can be demon possessed because the Holy Spirit becomes your hedge of protection.Like I said earlier, it's Biblical to use anointing oil for reasons stated in the Bible such as praying for the sick or setting apart as in dedication of kings, priests, babies etc.But when a pastor sells you oil to be rubbing every day for a month or so, that now becomes ABUSE of anointing oil.I agree with you that TB Joshua is very philanthropic.But the Bible is very clear that we are saved by Grace and not works lest any man should boast.A man was brought to Jesus for healing.The apostles asked if it was from his own sins or those of his parents that he was sick? Jesus said that it wasn't for either, but for God's glory.My question then is, why is it that when people go to TB Joshua, it's never for God's glory, but there is always a demon to be cast out? Also you did not respond, I said there is youtube video of him telling a woman to squeeze out her bare breast in church in order to be healed from cancer and also a man with bare buttocks for the same reason.If you like I can post those videos here.Is this the new trend of getting naked in church in order to be healed?It's about time Christians stopped to chase after men and begin to chase after God!

So,
SCOANITES, did you catch some apparitions of this man yesterday?

Anybody seen this Negro yesterday?

vooks:
Question was where TB Joshua is, not whether there are services? Negro is on the run

running from who or wat? Who is chasing him?