kingsouthie:

So by extension of that those who say Islam and the teachings of Mohammed are falsehood can be considered as infidels in a way?

ThinkSmarter:
Forget all these stories.
I hv Quran in my phone.
If u doubt me, I will screen shot the chapters where Muslims are commanded not to be friends to Jews and Christians.
They were also called to firmly stand against infidels, rise and kill them.
I was watching an ISIS video i downloaded from Al Jazeera site.
In the video, u will hear the ISIS fighters quoting the Quran to back up all their actions.
U may be a moderate Muslim.
But the extremists are the main Moslems following the actions of the profit written in the Hadiths and in the kkkkoran

Kbraims:
so d bible has such verses!But mark u,dos verses ar revelation for d oppressed muslim in dos dayz,not for we to mak use of bt to learn lesson from it! So please...if u dnt know islam jst keep quit!

ilynem:

There you go. You don't even know your own Koran. And by the way, I don't care how you spell it. That's how I spell mine.

Vecto:


Actually those verses were revealed during the time of war, and are for specific times and periods, much more like the OT violent verses.

BuzChi:

You right Oladoja. To add to what you have said from the bible in 1 Corinthians chapter 15:35-48, Adam is referred to as a the first man, a living being, but the last Adam, Jesus, is referred to as a life-giving spirit! It's actually an inner glory that God has restored through Jesus because whether anyone knows it or not, Jesus has died for mankind but to all that receive this truth its unveils inside them (scripture book of John 1:1 - 17). The last day that both Muslims, christians &those that pursue religion are expecting would more or less be the revelation/outward revealing of what glory (or kind of glory, whether evil or good) you have actually received inside you - truly it is 'Christ in you, your hope of glory" from scripture book of Colossians 1:27!

abosaid:
that's mean they should not punish any offender because Jesus has died for our sin.

mmsen:


Yes, the bible also has those verses and both books are destructive and nonsensical but at least xtians have stopped going on killing sprees using the bible as justification (for the time being).

oladoja1:

no u are entitled to your own opinion, it's only those who wants to kill him are the infidels, the Quran says their is no compulsion in religion

Amberon:
Now I even get it.

The key word here is "INNOCENT". Do not kill an innocent person. Well according to Islam, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc are NOT INNOCENT and should be killed.

But Christianity says, THOU SHALL NOT KILL without any conditions. That is the difference between the two religions.

Kbraims:
ACTUALLY abi? so u mean d one in the quran is not revealed during war time

BuzChi:


Please enlighten me because we are all learning!

Yusuf54:
You Christians shud pls go and READ ABOUT THE LOST ISLAMIC STORY WHEN KHALIFA UMAR CONQUERED THE WHOLE OF JERUSALEM,u can google search it...ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE

Yusuf54:
...Funny Man,both the Old Testament and New Testament made up d BIBLE,No Old Testament,No New Testament...Read this Negative scriptures about JESUS in the Gospel of MATTHEW 10 VS 34-35 and LUKE 12 VS 51-53,JESUS SAYS DO NOT THINK THAT I CAME TO BRING PEACE ON EARTH,I DIDN'T COME TO BRING PEACE BUT A SWORD,FOR I HAVE COME TO SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER,DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER,......is dat one also in old testament?

BuzChi:

You right Oladoja. To add to what you have said from the bible in 1 Corinthians chapter 15:35-48, Adam is referred to as a the first man, a living being, but the last Adam, Jesus, is referred to as a life-giving spirit! It's actually an inner glory that God has restored through Jesus because whether anyone knows it or not, Jesus has died for mankind but to all that receive this truth its unveils inside them (scripture book of John 1:1 - 17). The last day that both Muslims, christians &those that pursue religion are expecting would more or less be the revelation/outward revealing of what glory (or kind of glory, whether evil or good) you have actually received inside you - truly it is 'Christ in you, your hope of glory" from scripture book of Colossians 1:27!

Vecto:


I actually did say they were revealed during the time of war. Subsequently, sort of.

And yes, I was referring to the Quran. What were you thinking of?

Yusuf54:
....That was exactly what ur Pastor told u,Why is Jesus coming back and Did he repeat class,,Because according to the Gospel of JOHN 17 VS 4,JESUS says HE HAVE FINISHED THE WORK GOD GAVE HIM ON EARTH.,,so why the second coming?

abosaid:
have you ever see Muslim who kill his or her brother?

lfleak:

Really? Read the verses I ordered you to before ranting read from 27-34... you will understand better...

why do you keep flying away from a topic to the other.. No problem..

About Quran 9:29...
Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day - Yea, the Quran orders us to fight and be against those who do not believe in the ONENESS of Allah(GOD) and Do not believe in the LAST DAY(JUDGEMENT DAY)

and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - Yea, those who do the unlawful things, like fornication, theft, rape, murder among the rest NOTE: this doesnt limit to none believers, but also muslims who are guilty of this acts...

until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled. what is jizyah..? Jizyah is a tax levied upon the people who are under the protection of a muslim govt...

if I should delve into the bible... you know what I mean.?

Yusuf54:
...During the life time of Jesus Christ on earth,The Only Religion that was Practiced in His life tym was JUDAISM,Christianity came into existence 30years after Jesus had been raised to Heaven...Moses and Malachi Prophecied the coming of Jesus as a Prophet of God But when he started his Ministry at the age of 30,In MATTHEW 16 VS 20,He commanded his disciples not to tell anyone that He is the Christ which means Messiah Becos he knew some People would tried to eliminate him,and Jesus didn't even know that Some Jews had already knew he was the said Prophet of God Prophecied by Moses according to JOHN 6 VS 14-15,But the JEWS didn't accept Jesus as a Prophet of God becos they believed that Prophecy can only exist in Israel when the land is Inhabited by majority of the world Jews,and in Deuteronomy 13 vs 1-5,WHICH SAYS IF A PROPHET ARISES AMONG YOU AND GIVE YOU A SIGN OR A WONDER LIKE JESUS DID AND THE SIGN OR WONDER WHICH HE TELLS YOU COMES TO PASS,YOU SHALL NOT LISTEN TO THE WORDS OF THAT PROPHET,BUT THAT PROPHET SHALL BE PUT TO DEATH....old testament was written before the existence of Jesus while new testament was written after Jesus had rised to heaven

Kbraims:
Can u explain wat d verse is saying

SalamRushdie:
This is the script that is used disarm the minds of weak christians, jews, athiest, taoist, hindus and keep them vulnerable to wanton attacks by radicals

Shafiiimran99:
So u still believe that muslims responsible for 911

Yusuf54:
...During the life time of Jesus Christ on earth,The Only Religion that was Practiced in His life tym was JUDAISM,Christianity came into existence 30years after Jesus had been raised to Heaven...Moses and Malachi Prophecied the coming of Jesus as a Prophet of God But when he started his Ministry at the age of 30,In MATTHEW 16 VS 20,He commanded his disciples not to tell anyone that He is the Christ which means Messiah Becos he knew some People would tried to eliminate him,and Jesus didn't even know that Some Jews had already knew he was the said Prophet of God Prophecied by Moses according to JOHN 6 VS 14-15,But the JEWS didn't accept Jesus as a Prophet of God becos they believed that Prophecy can only exist in Israel when the land is Inhabited by majority of the world Jews,and in Deuteronomy 13 vs 1-5,WHICH SAYS IF A PROPHET ARISES AMONG YOU AND GIVE YOU A SIGN OR A WONDER LIKE JESUS DID AND THE SIGN OR WONDER WHICH HE TELLS YOU COMES TO PASS,YOU SHALL NOT LISTEN TO THE WORDS OF THAT PROPHET,BUT THAT PROPHET SHALL BE PUT TO DEATH....old testament was written before the existence of Jesus while new testament was written after Jesus had rised to heaven

ilynem:

And you are even cherry Picking the same verse. Before I get there, can I just say maybe its Allah that is confused. You can't call the descendants of Cain and Abel children of Israel. That title is for the children of Jacob. Not even Abraham. So either you are confused or Allah is. Pick one.
Now to the verse. Am glad u agree that those who don't believe in Allah should be fought. And as for "the Muslims" included, isn't that why Boko haram bomb mosques too? Because they believe you all are doing things unlawfully. And guess what? They are right. So you Koran says, fight the unbelievers (and this isn't WWE, this is fight with a sword, hence kill). This part is for infidels like me and the atheists.
Then fight the Muslims who do not obey the law: this part is for you "peaceful" Muslims who do not obey the first law.
Now you said the Jizyah is a tax by those under a Muslim government? What a nice way to put it. The Jizyah is a form of oppression. Let's see this:

Sahih Muslim (1:33) - "I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah, and he who professed it was guaranteed the protection of his property and life on my behalf except for the right affairs rest with Allah.'s The "protection" needed by the unbeliever is from Muhammad himself. In other words, the jizya is paid by the non-Muslim in exchange for not being killed.

lfleak:

You fell quite well into me... will answer all

1. First let me explain why the jews never accepted Muhammed..
The prophethood started from the two sons of Ibrahim(Abraham)
Isiac(Isaac) and Ismail(Ishmael), since then all prophets of islam, joseph, eliyas, moses, jesus all came from the lineage of Isaac, then the last prophet came from the lineage of Ishmael, that is Muhammed... the christains then was told by Jesus the last and the seal of all prophets will come after him... they all expected that for years before Muhammed was gotten from the Core Arab community of Quraish, which made the jews jealous and refuse to accept him... and they rather decided to take Jesus as their own prophet...(the verse is in the bible, but most christians denies it and say, it was the holy spirit jesus was referring to)...

2. It was NEVER written in HISTORY that Prohet Muhammed waged a war, NEVER(You can look it up) all the wars he fought was on a defense mode... He nevr do trhe offensive.

3. Lol,,, Muhammed never fought medinna, medinna accepted Muhammed so happily after he was chased from Mecca... then when the idol worshipers from mecca heard he was progressing and accumulating his members... they waged war against him 3 times!

4. Shia was born out of disagreement... will consume my time if I delve deep into that...

5. Quote the fundamentals out and watch me do justice to them all... Am afraid, you guys no very little about all this extremist: let me just tell you a bit:
The US isn't in Syria to defeat ISIS, they are there to install a puppet government set up the IMF and rape the resources from the country and people. Same thing they have done in every country they spread "freedom" to (libya, afghanistan, iraq, palestine, yemen). Team America the real world terrorist need to quit spreading their IslamoPhobia and fix thier own racist imbred shit hole of a country.

Now please reason this with me:
Islam exists since more than 14 Centuries ago...OK!
Islamic terrorism started only about 30 years ago...
An Intelligent person will realize that something must have triggered the Terrorism within the past 30 years...
The answer is so simple!...Its Crave for Oil and other bountiful unique natural resources!...
will delve more into it if you want, because all this terrorism are more of a political fight than religious...

6. They call themself so.. but dont do so..

7. I have defended all and will gladly defend any more from you..