| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by plaetton: 5:09pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
SmartyPants:
. Secondly, no state democratic or otherwise would allow a person to canvass for the virtual dissolution of that state. Nowhere, anywhere is this allowed!
Ha ha ha. Wrong Wrong. In the United States for example, there are 441 Active militias.There are active separatist movements in 13 states of the US. There are 939 hate groups in the US. There are and have been separatist groups in Canada for most of her history. There are separatist groups in the UK, France, Italy, Spain, Germany, Mexico, etc etc. Pls upgrade your knowledge.  1 Like |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by Montaque(m): 5:20pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
Pythondancef:
What do you mean by hate speech? You cannot punish people for what they say, the law holds you accountable for your actions and not your thoughts. You have to understand this, you cannot beat me up because I insulted you, It means you have assaulted me.
So it's unreasonable for Buhari (I voted for him) and the military to go to Kanu's house with weapons because of hate speech. Hope you wont vote for him again? |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by Hajardramadan(m): 5:22pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
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| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by datribune: 5:23pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
Pythondancef:
What do you mean by hate speech? You cannot punish people for what they say, the law holds you accountable for your actions and not your thoughts. You have to understand this, you cannot beat me up because I insulted you, It means you have assaulted me.
So it's unreasonable for Buhari (I voted for him) and the military to go to Kanu's house with weapons because of hate speech. U seem to trivialize Kanu's crimes. It was words & hate speech dat led to d Rwandan genocide. No country jokes around wit its national security. When an American citizen, Anwar al-Awlaki was compromising d security of d USA by influencing radicals on d internet, America hunted him down & killed him without any trial whatsoever, even though he was their citizen. There's no difference between Al-awlaki's crime & Kanu's crime. There's nothing peaceful about Kanu who has been radicalizing d igbo youth. Kanu can be seen on YouTube video soliciting for arms to fight Nigeria. Let's be clear, Kanu is a threat to d Nigerian state & d threat will be neutralized. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by Kaymaxine(m): 5:24pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
Pythondancef:
What do you mean by hate speech? You cannot punish people for what they say, the law holds you accountable for your actions and not your thoughts. You have to understand this, you cannot beat me up because I insulted you, It means you have assaulted me.
So it's unreasonable for Buhari (I voted for him) and the military to go to Kanu's house with weapons because of hate speech. 
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| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by DonMekino(m): 5:25pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
ClitRaider:
Are you not aware that in 1979, Igbo has only two states, Anambra and Imo whereas Yoruba has four states.
Today Igbo has five states and Yoruba has six states.
Are you not aware that Igbo has six senators in 1979 whereas Yoruba has twelve senators. Today they have fifteen senators whereas we have eighteen senators. Calculate the percentage increase. Let us ask, who has been marginalized?
They will come to us that those Hausas are bad they are not educated, they are Muslims, they want to Islamise Nigeria, they are this and that yet they will go behind to form an alliance with them.
Strategically they have been reducing our economic potential because they have been able to increase their slots in geometric progression and ours is in arithmetic progression. More slots in Federal appointments whereas ours have continued to reduce.
Are you aware that the land mass that makes up the five Eastern states is not up to old Oyo state yet they have been able to create five states out of it.
The first group of people that started trading in spare parts are Yoruba particularly our people from Ijebu-Ode but they have been muscled out of the business.
The idea of Geo-political Zone was mooted by Ojukwu to favour the Igbo. Now through Jonathan conference they said they are being marginalized because they are the only Geo-political zone with five states. Can you imagine that? From two states. That is what I called strategic thinking. Unfortunately, Yorubas that went to that conference agreed with them foolishly particularly afenifere in the likes of Yinka Odumakin, Sen. Adefuye. What a tragedy. Let's ask them, what did Yorubas that attended the conference brought home? The answer is nothing.
The issue of Biafra being championed by Kanu is not by accident, it is a grand design to negotiate for more. Now it is coming out, South East Development commission. Why don't we ask, to be funded by who? If it is agreed they will continue to reduce our economic potential in the Nigerian state.
But, come to think of it why don't you let Biafra be. They are adding no value to us and I can bet you that nobody will miss them. Remember that they fired the first shot that started Nigerian civil war. Killing Tafawa Balewa, Ahmadu Bello and some notable Yorubas.
Of recent, Chinue Achebe wrote a book "There was a Country". Accusing Awolowo of committing Progrom. What a tragic write up. The question to ask is who started the war? Can I continue to feed my enemy to have more strength to battle me.
Igbo would never change. Domination is in their blood and they can only be satisfied if they have what belongs to you and you have not
.
Yoruba E Ronu yin o.
- _forwarded as copied_ My brother... Off-point from the topic |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by clarocuzioo(m): 5:25pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
SmartyPants:
I am dissapointed that a legal sage like Mr. Falana could err so gravely in the interpretation of the constitution.
He said in loose paraphrasing "The Nigerian Police Force has been granted exclusive responsibility to maintain law and order in Nigeria"
This is patently false since sec 217(2)(c) of the Cons. states:
"(2) The Federation shall, subject to an Act of the National Assembly made in that behalf, equip and maintain the armed forces as may be considered adequate and effective for the purpose of -
(c) suppressing insurrection and acting in aid of civil authorities to restore order when called upon to do so by the President, but subject to such conditions as may be prescribed by an Act of the National Assembly;"
This implies that the army may at any time, effect an arrest, or otherwise mimic the functions of the police when called upon to do so by the president.
but subject to such conditions as may be prescribed by an Act of the National Assembly;" Was the National Assembly involved in this show of shame, or was there an act to from the National Assembly as thats the only thing that can prove that this is not a hate action. |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by sddiamond: 5:27pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
ClitRaider:
Are you not aware that in 1979, Igbo has only two states, Anambra and Imo whereas Yoruba has four states.
Today Igbo has five states and Yoruba has six states.
Are you not aware that Igbo has six senators in 1979 whereas Yoruba has twelve senators. Today they have fifteen senators whereas we have eighteen senators. Calculate the percentage increase. Let us ask, who has been marginalized?
They will come to us that those Hausas are bad they are not educated, they are Muslims, they want to Islamise Nigeria, they are this and that yet they will go behind to form an alliance with them.
Strategically they have been reducing our economic potential because they have been able to increase their slots in geometric progression and ours is in arithmetic progression. More slots in Federal appointments whereas ours have continued to reduce.
Are you aware that the land mass that makes up the five Eastern states is not up to old Oyo state yet they have been able to create five states out of it.
The first group of people that started trading in spare parts are Yoruba particularly our people from Ijebu-Ode but they have been muscled out of the business.
The idea of Geo-political Zone was mooted by Ojukwu to favour the Igbo. Now through Jonathan conference they said they are being marginalized because they are the only Geo-political zone with five states. Can you imagine that? From two states. That is what I called strategic thinking. Unfortunately, Yorubas that went to that conference agreed with them foolishly particularly afenifere in the likes of Yinka Odumakin, Sen. Adefuye. What a tragedy. Let's ask them, what did Yorubas that attended the conference brought home? The answer is nothing.
The issue of Biafra being championed by Kanu is not by accident, it is a grand design to negotiate for more. Now it is coming out, South East Development commission. Why don't we ask, to be funded by who? If it is agreed they will continue to reduce our economic potential in the Nigerian state.
But, come to think of it why don't you let Biafra be. They are adding no value to us and I can bet you that nobody will miss them. Remember that they fired the first shot that started Nigerian civil war. Killing Tafawa Balewa, Ahmadu Bello and some notable Yorubas.
Of recent, Chinue Achebe wrote a book "There was a Country". Accusing Awolowo of committing Progrom. What a tragic write up. The question to ask is who started the war? Can I continue to feed my enemy to have more strength to battle me.
Igbo would never change. Domination is in their blood and they can only be satisfied if they have what belongs to you and you have not
.
Yoruba E Ronu yin o.
- _forwarded as copied_ senseless 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by zingobaby: 5:27pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
yesooo im in support of falana.Buhari is illiterate 1 Like |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by SycophanticGoat: 5:27pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
TundeHashim:
I completely and wholeheartedly agree with Messrs Falana. I've repeated it on several occasions and on different fora that I do not support Nnamdi Kanu and in extension, the "current" Biafra agitation. Although in as much as i believe every people are entitled to self determination, igbo people can, in my humble opinion, seek for an independent country BUT that shouldn't be done using hate speeches, chest-beating, calling others skull miners and other derogatory names. It should be done by advancing logical argument and trying to get both national and international sympathy towards achieving self independence. Also, I don't think the Army is needed for this operation. it is a bad political move on the part of anyone responsible for this. at least, it has drawn many people who are on the fence to sympathize with Kanu. When one looks at life retrospectively with the view that everything we have (and even ourselves) would one day come to naught, is it safe if we ask is there anything really worth killing ourselves for Shut your c*sspit you call a brain, you hypocritical d*mbf*ck!!! Now it hurts hypocritical nitwits when the name calling they introduced are used against them? I can recall vividly how you people went from one crime thread to another years back, maligning Igbos and turning Igbo crime threads to parties. This happened to the point that you lots will stereotype all Igbos once a few committed crime and the worst part of it all, you always ensured the threads reached 10 - 20 pages with thousands of likes. Now that Igbos are reciprocating in kind (although your own crime threads almost always ends at 2 - 4 pages), you hypocrites are beginning to cry blue murder? You lots haven't even seen 1/4th of what Igbos have experienced from you yet you're crying like a baby that was spanked! The way you lots used to tag hardworking Igbos as ritualists and call other Igbos drug dealers or dealers of fake products, that's how they've invented a name that suits your kind and the crimes you commit. I call it karma. It's this same way idiots from your divide are jubilating at the massacre of unarmed Igbo protesters, just be sure not to come here tomorrow to cry blue murder when Igbos reciprocate tomorrow.. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by markfemisgay: 5:29pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
Buhari is an animal in human skin. |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by Alexander001(m): 5:33pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
ClitRaider:
Are you not aware that in 1979, Igbo has only two states, Anambra and Imo whereas Yoruba has four states.
Today Igbo has five states and Yoruba has six states.
Are you not aware that Igbo has six senators in 1979 whereas Yoruba has twelve senators. Today they have fifteen senators whereas we have eighteen senators. Calculate the percentage increase. Let us ask, who has been marginalized?
They will come to us that those Hausas are bad they are not educated, they are Muslims, they want to Islamise Nigeria, they are this and that yet they will go behind to form an alliance with them.
Strategically they have been reducing our economic potential because they have been able to increase their slots in geometric progression and ours is in arithmetic progression. More slots in Federal appointments whereas ours have continued to reduce.
Are you aware that the land mass that makes up the five Eastern states is not up to old Oyo state yet they have been able to create five states out of it.
The first group of people that started trading in spare parts are Yoruba particularly our people from Ijebu-Ode but they have been muscled out of the business.
The idea of Geo-political Zone was mooted by Ojukwu to favour the Igbo. Now through Jonathan conference they said they are being marginalized because they are the only Geo-political zone with five states. Can you imagine that? From two states. That is what I called strategic thinking. Unfortunately, Yorubas that went to that conference agreed with them foolishly particularly afenifere in the likes of Yinka Odumakin, Sen. Adefuye. What a tragedy. Let's ask them, what did Yorubas that attended the conference brought home? The answer is nothing.
The issue of Biafra being championed by Kanu is not by accident, it is a grand design to negotiate for more. Now it is coming out, South East Development commission. Why don't we ask, to be funded by who? If it is agreed they will continue to reduce our economic potential in the Nigerian state.
But, come to think of it why don't you let Biafra be. They are adding no value to us and I can bet you that nobody will miss them. Remember that they fired the first shot that started Nigerian civil war. Killing Tafawa Balewa, Ahmadu Bello and some notable Yorubas.
Of recent, Chinue Achebe wrote a book "There was a Country". Accusing Awolowo of committing Progrom. What a tragic write up. The question to ask is who started the war? Can I continue to feed my enemy to have more strength to battle me.
Igbo would never change. Domination is in their blood and they can only be satisfied if they have what belongs to you and you have not
.
Yoruba E Ronu yin o.
- _forwarded as copied_ The first group of people that started trading in spare parts are Yoruba particularly our people from Ijebu-Ode but they have been muscled out of the business. Are you serious? How did the igbos manage to achieve this part? |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by SmartyPants(m): 5:33pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
plaetton:
Ha ha ha.
Wrong Wrong.
In the United States for example, there are 441 Active militias.
There are active separatist movements in 13 states of the US.
There are 939 hate groups in the US.
There are and have been separatist groups in Canada for most of her history.
There are separatist groups in the UK, France, Italy, Spain, Germany, Mexico, etc etc.
Pls upgrade your knowledge. You are the one who needs to upgrade his understanding first of all. Separatist groups are not the issue. Neither are hate groups nor are militias. Us laws permit militias (even promote them in some interpretation). Freedom of association and freedom of speech laws mean you can express opinions and you can form organizations. None of these are the issue. Sedition is the issue. Where there is incitement to undertake rebellion in the pursuit of an illegality. Sedition does not mean you cannot go about seeking to separate, sedition simply means you are inciting people to go about it in an unlawful manner. I really hope you get it now. 1 Like |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by slowice(m): 5:34pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
Do not say a thing is right because you dislike the person that is affected. A spade is a spade and not just a farm tool, buhari led federal government has shocked every Nigerian in one way or another especially with regards to poor decision n today we re face with same poor decision. Everyone must condemn this move if Nigeria must continue as one. |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by SmartyPants(m): 5:35pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
clarocuzioo:
but subject to such conditions as may be prescribed by an Act of the National Assembly;"
Was the National Assembly involved in this show of shame, or was there an act to from the National Assembly as thats the only thing that can prove that this is not a hate action. Try to first understand what is meant by an Act of the National Assembly! An "Act" is different from an "act", and there is already an Act in place that deals with this: The Armed Forces Act of Nigeria. |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by ELKHALIFAISIS(m): 5:38pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
ClitRaider:
Are you not aware that in 1979, Igbo has only two states, Anambra and Imo whereas Yoruba has four states.
Today Igbo has five states and Yoruba has six states.
Are you not aware that Igbo has six senators in 1979 whereas Yoruba has twelve senators. Today they have fifteen senators whereas we have eighteen senators. Calculate the percentage increase. Let us ask, who has been marginalized?
They will come to us that those Hausas are bad they are not educated, they are Muslims, they want to Islamise Nigeria, they are this and that yet they will go behind to form an alliance with them.
Strategically they have been reducing our economic potential because they have been able to increase their slots in geometric progression and ours is in arithmetic progression. More slots in Federal appointments whereas ours have continued to reduce.
Are you aware that the land mass that makes up the five Eastern states is not up to old Oyo state yet they have been able to create five states out of it.
The first group of people that started trading in spare parts are Yoruba particularly our people from Ijebu-Ode but they have been muscled out of the business.
The idea of Geo-political Zone was mooted by Ojukwu to favour the Igbo. Now through Jonathan conference they said they are being marginalized because they are the only Geo-political zone with five states. Can you imagine that? From two states. That is what I called strategic thinking. Unfortunately, Yorubas that went to that conference agreed with them foolishly particularly afenifere in the likes of Yinka Odumakin, Sen. Adefuye. What a tragedy. Let's ask them, what did Yorubas that attended the conference brought home? The answer is nothing.
The issue of Biafra being championed by Kanu is not by accident, it is a grand design to negotiate for more. Now it is coming out, South East Development commission. Why don't we ask, to be funded by who? If it is agreed they will continue to reduce our economic potential in the Nigerian state.
But, come to think of it why don't you let Biafra be. They are adding no value to us and I can bet you that nobody will miss them. Remember that they fired the first shot that started Nigerian civil war. Killing Tafawa Balewa, Ahmadu Bello and some notable Yorubas.
Of recent, Chinue Achebe wrote a book "There was a Country". Accusing Awolowo of committing Progrom. What a tragic write up. The question to ask is who started the war? Can I continue to feed my enemy to have more strength to battle me.
Igbo would never change. Domination is in their blood and they can only be satisfied if they have what belongs to you and you have not
.
Yoruba E Ronu yin o.
- _forwarded as copied_ you forgot to mentioned how your hungry ancestors legally sold their lands to them, yellowbars are afraid of competition, they re afraid to have competitive neighbour, they are afraid of Fulani/Hausa dominance if Biafrans leave them, a group of Hausa Fulani men molested and physically abused a young Yoruba woman by the name of Kubura and killed her, you people didn't say anything, but whenever Biafra is mentioned u will see lazy touts vibrating as if they are about to lose their bread winners It's in the best interest of Yorubas to start working on ways and means to disengage from Nigeria.the only way out for Yorubas is to hasten their exit from this hell hole called Nigeria. Anything short of that is unacceptable, unrealistic, and unworkable. If Biafra is mentioned casually on Facebook, Twitter, Nairaland or Punch website, it is most likely that the first person that will ridicule or attack the post will be a Yoruba person. Sometimes even when Biafra is not mentioned in an article or news item, a Yoruba person will bring it into the discussion and start the attack. Why are many Yorubas so afraid of the exit of the Igbos from Nigeria, even though they pretend that it does not worry them? Definitely I have seen some Yorubas who don’t care if Biafra succeeds as well as those who even support it, but the majority of the Yorubas give unnecessary opposition to it that is difficult to understand. "An Igbo man sees the entire world as his village, while an Hausa man sees Kano as the Universe and a Yoruba man sees Lagos as his entire world. Nigeria is just too small to contain the Igbo man’s dreams, aspirations, industry, commerce and expertise. He needs a platform to rule and dominate the entire Universe which is Biafra. An average Igbo man is far better than an average Yoruba or an average Hausa-Fulani: intellectually, economically and industrially, not withstanding his money that Awolowo stole to develop and empower Yoruba land, or his properties that Gowon destroyed and others he dashed out. He carries the blessing of Abraham, Nigeria will remain cursed as she continues to curse and undermine him. The only way Nigeria will see light is by blessing and letting Biafra Go. The blood of the Igbo man slaughtered by Hausa- Fulani, the blood of the pregnant Igbo woman whose womb was slit open to kill her and the unborn child by Hausa-Fulani, and the cry of the Igbo child starved to death by Yoruba will continue to speak against the Nigeria project. Nigeria is doomed and under a curse, and therefore needs to make atonement, restitution and seek forgiveness from the Igbo man. Hausa-Fulani-Yoruba should bury their faces in shame, as much as the Igbo man continues to progress Abrahamically, fearlessly propelled by his culture and strengthened by repression and hash antagonistic economic policies, the hatred, jealousy and envy towards an Igbo man will have no bounds. 1 Like 
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| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by Isaacmacdon(m): 5:39pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
Pythondancef:
I have been a silent reader on Nairaland but I had to register just to tell how disappointed I am with Buhari and the military. I have traveled far and wide and I tell you that it's very hard to see military men(in uniforms) in other countries. I traveled to the US last year and I didn't see a single soldier throughout my stay. I only saw soldiers on TV but never did I see them on the streets.
It's totally unacceptable and unconstitutional of the Nigerian Army to invade civilian areas in a show of force. You don't intimidate civilian populace with weapons, especially in an area where the tension is high. It's complete terrorism on the part of the Army and I would like to advise them to stop whatever they are doing. The police should be deployed in cases like this.
It's just like a lion threatening to eat a rat and then few weeks later the lion comes closer to the rats house all in the name of "Show of force". Don't you think the rat would attack the lion just to gurrantee its safety? Don't you think the rat has reasons to attack first because of fear? This provocation by the Nigerian Army should stop, this Biafran issue should not be escalated further. The military should leave the court to decide Kanu's fate, they cannot take laws into their own hands.
I am not a Biafran supporter in anyway. All reasonable Nigerians should be against this madness. If we don't condemn the Nigerian military now, they will do this over and over again with impunity and you wouldn't know when it's going to be your turn. You might praise the army and condemn the Igbos now, but remember that we live in a world of karma.
I agree with Falana and all Nigerians APC or PDP should do the same..
Dear Mr. Silent reader, why do you have a biased point of view? Why are you sentimental and very opinionated? You've only displayed the attributes of a man with plenty words but with no sense. You should have condemned Nnamdi's hate speeches towards the nation, but you decided to be lopsided in your thinking. If A secessionist in the u.s makes these statements nnamdi made, he'd be dealt with secretly. It wouldn't even be the U.S soldiers doing the dirty job; it'd be the secret service or the CIA. Condemn both sides and not one. 1 Like |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by clarocuzioo(m): 5:39pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
SmartyPants:
Try to first understand what is meant by an Act of the National Assembly!
An Act is different from a resolution, and there is already an Act in place that deals with this: The Armed Forces Act of Nigeria. Please kindly point out the section and phrase clearly for us in the Armed Forces Act that justifies this show of shame. |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by jom28gy(m): 5:45pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
In times like this,these men are needed to interpret the law to laymen,on points of law,femi falana,has been able to addressed the nation.which i think,has to obeyed without wasting time.acceptable in a democratic setting. 1 Like |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by plaetton: 5:49pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
SmartyPants:
You are the one who needs to upgrade his understanding first of all.
Separatist groups are not the issue. Neither are hate groups nor are militias.
Us laws permit militias (even promote them in some interpretation). Freedom of association and freedom of speech laws mean you can express opinions and you can form organizations. None of these are the issue.
Sedition is the issue. Where there is incitement to undertake rebellion in the pursuit of an illegality.
Sedition does not mean you cannot go about seeking to separate, sedition simply means you are inciting people to go about it in an unlawful manner.
I really hope you get it now.
This is just plain ol sophistry on your part. In the United States, I remind you , all militias and most seperatists are fully armed , fully aggressive about their agendas, and do not subscribe to political correctness . In other words, they publicly canvass online and offline, civil disobedience, a open call to arms against the united states government. The Us government keeps tabs on them, infiltrate them to gather criminal evidence against their leadership, with a view to criminal indictment once in while, carefully cognisant of the sacred protection that all citizens enjoy under the umbrella of the constitution. Nnamdi Kanu, on the other hand, has never committed a single act of terrorism, has never caused a single loss of life, yet he provokes so much fear in the government. Isn't that an indication that our so-called unity is contrived and maintained by fear and intimidation ? 1 Like |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by udunyam: 5:51pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
we r watching |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by SmartyPants(m): 5:51pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
plaetton:
This is just plain ol sophistry on your part.
In the United States, I remind you , all militias and most seperatists are fully armed , fully aggressive about their agendas, and do not subscribe to political correctness . In other words, they publicly canvass online and offline, civil disobedience, a open call to arms against the united states government.
The Us government keeps tabs on them, infiltrate them to gather criminal evidence against their leadership, with a view to criminal indictment once in while, carefully cognisant of the sacred protection that all citizens enjoy under the umbrella of the constitution.
Nnamdi Kanu, on the other hand, has never committed a single act of terrorism, has never caused a single loss of life, yet he provokes so much fear in the government. Isn't that an indication that our so-called unity is contrived and maintained by fear and intimidation ?
You are discussing politics while i am discussing legality. I have no issues with the quest for self-determination of the Igbo people. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by SmartyPants(m): 5:55pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
clarocuzioo:
Please kindly point out the section and phrase clearly for us in the Armed Forces Act that justifies this show of shame. I've already done that. Section 8(1) and (3) basically provides, without any qualification whatsoever, the power to deploy the Armed Forces to maintain public safety and order is entirely at the discretion of the President. |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by plaetton: 5:56pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
SmartyPants:
You are discussing politics while i am discussing legality.
I have no issues with the quest for self-determination of the Igbo people.  Good then. Every revolution in the history of the world starts out as a heresy. |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by plaetton: 5:58pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
SmartyPants:
I've already done that.
Section 8(1) and (3) basically provides, without any qualification whatsoever, the power to deploy the Armed Forces to maintain public safety and order is entirely at the discretion of the President.
But can you say that Kanu, in his Biafra actualization activism over the last few years, has compromised and or endangered public safety ? If yes, where ? In Umuahia ? |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by LordIsaac(m): 5:58pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
Pythondancef:
I have been a silent reader on Nairaland but I had to register just to tell how disappointed I am with Buhari and the military. I have traveled far and wide and I tell you that it's very hard to see military men(in uniforms) in other countries. I traveled to the US last year and I didn't see a single soldier throughout my stay. I only saw soldiers on TV but never did I see them on the streets.
It's totally unacceptable and unconstitutional of the Nigerian Army to invade civilian areas in a show of force. You don't intimidate civilian populace with weapons, especially in an area where the tension is high. It's complete terrorism on the part of the Army and I would like to advise them to stop whatever they are doing. The police should be deployed in cases like this.
It's just like a lion threatening to eat a rat and then few weeks later the lion comes closer to the rats house all in the name of "Show of force". Don't you think the rat would attack the lion just to gurrantee its safety? Don't you think the rat has reasons to attack first because of fear? This provocation by the Nigerian Army should stop, this Biafran issue should not be escalated further. The military should leave the court to decide Kanu's fate, they cannot take laws into their own hands.
I am not a Biafran supporter in anyway. All reasonable Nigerians should be against this madness. If we don't condemn the Nigerian military now, they will do this over and over again with impunity and you wouldn't know when it's going to be your turn. You might praise the army and condemn the Igbos now, but remember that we live in a world of karma.
I agree with Falana and all Nigerians APC or PDP should do the same..
Nigeria is a lawless country. No one respects the Police. For this reason, a chief executive must ɓe strong enough to confront lawlessness with some ɗegree of "lawlessness." Else, he will ɓe seen as weak....which woulɗ spell ɗisaster for thst leader. Please ɗon't insult me, just trƴ to see things oɓjectivelƴ....ɗon't focus on the iɗeal at the ɗetriment of the reality on ground. |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by theycallmewale(m): 5:58pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
All these IPOB will support this Afonja man just because his view is in their favour |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by successinlife: 6:09pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
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Kindly tell us what is 'Ichi' in Ibo language.
Among the Ibos of Nigeria, an account of the curious & interesting habits, customs, & beliefs of a little known African people by one who has for many years lived amongst them on close & intimate terms, by G. T. Basden. 1 Like 1 Share 
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| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by ceecee0703(m): 6:16pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
profolaolu:
When KANU was busy throwing tantrums and hate speech here and there falana kept quiet, so now when buhari want to test maybe he has power or not people are complaining,I thought d guy on TV was from Sudan With this kinda speech Nigeria still has a looong way to go.. |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by surgical: 6:17pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
RareDiamond:
Nigeria's federal government under Buhari is currently one of the most tribalistic, nepolistic, biased, islamic fanatical, debased, dictatorial, cluessless and id1otic government in Africa.
IT WILL NOT BE WELL WITH BUHARI AND THE MASTERMINDERS OF THE NIGERIAN ARMY RASCALITY, BRUTALITY AND STUP1DITY IN THE SOUTH EAST. please include those that contributed in bringing him to power, though the ones with conscience among them have started feeling ashamed but just waiting for the opportunity to right the wrong |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by 2lola: 6:23pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
Nnamdi Kanu Gave Me a Reason to Say This: Thank You, President Buhari
BY [color=#000099][/color]AKINTUNDE ADEYEMO
You can't send police officers to quench a quasi-military camp, which is maintained by Nnamdi Kanu, who has aggressively vowed to tear apart a sovereign nation, Nigeria.
Kanu made a serious mistake by parading a ragtag army; especially when you have a former General as the president, that was disrespectful.
I lived in Nigeria for more than two (2) decades, Nigerian soldiers don't like to be disrespected; in fact, from working with soldiers in the United States (Michigan National Guard, Joint Forces Headquarters), I can tell you that, generally, soldiers don't like to be disrespected.
If someone, a civilian for that matter, maintains and parades militants (wearing a military uniform), he should not expect the government to roll in with police officers and patrol vans; he should reasonably expect army tanks.
Pursuant to the 1949 Geneva Conventions Article 3, your status changes once you start wearing an army uniform, for you become an enemy combatant: A recognized army (the Nigerian Army, in this case) can use force to neutralize you and your fellow militants.
Let’s gaze into history here: When the 1791 "Whiskey Rebellion" happened in the United States, spearheaded by some civilians, President George Washington did not send in police officers, he brought in military tanks to quench the rebellion.
In the United States, when violence escalates, a governor, pursuant to Title 32 of the United States Code, can summon the army and their tanks to the street (didn’t you watch CNN at the height of the “Black Lives Matter movement;” didn’t you see numerous armoured personnel carrier (APC) on the street)?
Let's stop pretentiously invoking the violation of the rule of law, especially if you don't understand the rule of law and the rule of engagement.
A military incursion, or rolling of tanks, into a street, in order to clear the illusion of outlaws, like Nnamdi and his cohorts, is not a violation of the rule of law, but an enforcement of the rule of law.
If Kanu is scared of a small deployment of soldiers, will he chicken out when battalions are deployed? To his supporters, we told you this: secession is not won on Nairaland. Continue arguing about the violation of the rule. Listen, when hostility begins, the rule of law is suspended or amended. I hope we won't get there. Start listening. |
| Re: Femi Falana: "Buhari Should Withdraw Soldiers From Nnamdi Kanu's Residence" by SmartyPants(m): 6:23pm On Sep 13, 2017 |
plaetton:
But can you say that Kanu, in his Biafra actualization activism over the last few years, has compromised and or endangered public safety ?
If yes, where ? In Umuahia ? I cant say for a fact that Nnamdi Kanu is a dangerous person, but he does continue to break the law in grave ways. From the federal perspective he has threatened actions that threaten to undermine the democratic process in Nigeria, he has promoted actions to undermine the peace and stability upon his arrest, he also perpetually threatens the unity of Nigeria, and recently inaugurated an illegal security outfit with unknown intentions (which is a seditious offence under Nigeria's criminal code). So really, when it comes to legality, Kanu is very much exposed by his utterances and behavior. 1 Like 1 Share |
