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andrewbaba44:
Is this how they judge football ?

Pure beer parlour talk

If Leicester wins ndidi is better ,if Chelsea wins Kanté is better ,we are talking about individual players and you are here trying to judge by the team who wins

I repeat ,your analysis is pure beer parlour

Lol not just this game but we're going to analyse the 2 toe toe in this game and see how each other perform against each other. Nothing beer parlour about it just consult your Dibya and post your predictions

TheSuperNerd:
Well said. Strengthening our Midfield depth is the topmost priority especially in the central and Attacking midfield roles.

Since Olise and Ejaria are not yet sorted to play for us, then we can turn to the available midfield talents we've got because time is going. We need our Midfield depth options to begin blending with one another. We cannot keep having our midfield looking so lean on international assignment until just Olise arrives. We even need more than just an Olise reinforcement in the middle.

Honestly, I have watched the Abraham Marcus lad and he is a very decent young talent but there was absolutely no need to invite him as he cannot displace anyone from the First XI right now plus we have a lot of wing/wide forward options.

Also, if Rohr could go as far as the Portuguese second tier (The Segunda Liga) to invite Marcus, I see no reason why he should ignore a lad doing well in the La Liga Smartbank (a second tier on a higher level to what obtains in Portugal) and the Turkish Super Lig especially as the lads in question are midfielders that can come into a dept where we desperately need more options.

Honestly, this list screams corruption in certain quarters. It is diabolical to see Rohr ignore a department we need reinforcement in only to go pick a lad from a second tier not rated higher than the ones where we have a few midfield options and worse that the lad is a winger/wing forward when we have lots of that. Then add to the fact that the initial NFF list didn't have Onuachu included at first. Had Balogun included and Semi Ajayi listed twice as both a CB and a MF.
Then they corrected it and go Onuachu into the list finally. Kept Semi Ajayi in one position as CB. And removed Balogun's name. Also, Ikechukwu Ezenwa?? Really??
OSomething is not right with the way the list was drawn up. The Glass House is a joke.

Let's forget Rohr for a second, analyst here aren't even advocating for nwakali as much as they have been salivating over English rejects like ejaria and co even thought they're all in division 2 of their various leagues. If nwakali was a dual national, I'm pretty sure that everyone will be advocating for him here and in nff. Charity they say, begins at home

TheSuperNerd:
This, in itself, is already a beer parlour talk. Infact, it's now Ajino moto kitchen talk.

It's an FA cup final. One game. Not a marathon game series, plus Chelsea are clearly the favorites.
And whatever happens doesn't erase the fact in the thread link (below) composed by one of the finest stats experts in world football, William Hill, with links to World renowned Squawka.

https://twitter.com/WilliamHill/status/1393235098548461568?s=19

That's a renowned foreign site confirming my own analyses made many weeks back on this Kante-Ndidi debate strictly with respect to performances.
For the past three and a half seasons (excluding this current one), Ndidi has simply been the EPL DM king and he still is. Deal with it.

I'm not basing my judgement just based on tomorrow's game but since tomorrow's game is a reflection of the overall season, we can get an idea who was overall better this season based on tomorrow's and Tuesday game

humility33:
You don't drop a team captain like that.... that's man management principle.

For shehu that's fine but musa...you don't drop a captain like that instead you drop ezenwa for Ejuke

The invited goalies are enough so you drop ezenwa

Very Foolish and Dumb logic. This is the type of sentimental bull crap that can elude us from winning trophies. The type of foolish statement that people make here deserve a hot Konk walahi. Imagine inviting a clubless player ahead of someone that has 3 goals in Russia and someone is justifying it

elyte89:
Dts d solution ...sack rohr and d gnashing of teeth's will reduce


D likes of van gaal,dick advocaat,gus hidink and co..go better pass rohrbish

Sacking him solve the problem but helping him to work on his weakness

femianski:
Just because of only one match

Final!

daveP:
Yunno, not all seeing is believing!!

Over to everyone on here. Lets drop the Rohr blaming whenever any list pops up.
He definitely is not in charge one bit.

If he even resigns tomorrow, that's the end of any WC new Golden abi na silver Generation of SE!!



Confirmation has Onuachu innit. Official Handle dropped that few mins ago.

What makes people think Rohr isn't in charge of selection? Because of shebu and Musa? I totally disagree. Rohr seem to be a coach that values loyalty to the bone marrow. He is probably trying to reward Musa for those 2 world cup goals even though he is out of form and doesn't deserve selection

maidaboi:
So Ejuke didn't make the list
lol

And Musa did. Sad case of politics the best Dribbler in super eagles cannot make a team of 31

Tomorrow is the D Day. Consult your babalawo, dibya, soothsayer etc. It's Ndidi vs Kante

If Chelsea Wins Then the argument should be over for this season why if Leicester Wins, Ndidi is the Epl DM king.

Like for Ndidi
Share for Kante.

Tomorrow, we will differentiate football Analyst from beer parlour Guys. Oya predict

damagnificentusb:
SECONDED.

If not that Nigerians slandered and questioned uzoho age publicly after 2018 world cup, the Bobo would had been playing in la liga by now. Imagine a meme going viral of uzoho that a "17 year old son turned 15th" if na you, you go give am chance? Uzoho for me

Omanambala:
Yes, we do. A team that parades Osimhen , Kelechi , Onyekuru , Nwakali, Ebuehi , Chukwueze ,Akpoguma, Awaziem, Balogun, Nwakali etc should play as contenders. But thats where the tactician comes in.

Stop being DELUSIONAL. in order to win the world cup, you need like 5 World class players. A world class Defender, Midfielder, Attacker, Winger and Striker. Right now, our best bet is R16, QF. It is imperative for our boys to sign for the best clubs in the world to even have a chance of playing QF. For now, let's be humble and Qualify first

Omanambala:
Yet , he has not being able to orchestrate our midfield.

He plays AMF or SS and he has 9 goals in 44 well on course to score more goals for Nigeria than Kanu and okocha for Nigeria. We obviously need more competition in that position but he hasn't been bad for Nigeria

Subzero047:
See I like Osimhen but Haaland is going to be in the Ronaldo, Messi conversation in the next couple of years and Osimhen is not that level

This site is filled with sentimental delusional. Isn't it here that someone said Ndidi is better than Kante or osimehn is overall better than Haaland. The next asanine statements is "Chukwueze is better than Messi" osimehn is talented but he has to surpass or get to haaland level before someone should be saying crazy statements

Omanambala:
You are kidding, right ? When has Iwobi ever excelled as AMF. There is a difference between been a skillful player and a creative player. A defender or striker can be skillful but may not be creative which is a major requirement of a midfielder because you are the link between defence and attack.

A midfielder must be strong , creative and hardworking and Iwobi is none of these things. On the other hand Nwakali may not be the strongest player but his creativity and tailor made passes are almost unmatched when he is in form.

What this mumu talking about? Iwobi is one of Nigeria most creative players. Did you not see his pass to Musa vs Tunisia (friendly) or friendly games vs Argentina, England? The guy has 9 goals for Nigeria and a few assists he deserves some respect. Even dele Ali has been an English flop despite playing well for Tottenham

Omanambala:
When I was harping about Iwobi's inefficiency I was ganged up on and insulted wildly here. Here , yet again, Iwobi seems like he is becoming surplus to requirements at his current club. The boy brings absolutely nothing to the table. He cant shoot , he cant hold up play and create ,yet he wants to be #10 so badly.

With Rohr he is sure to man the midfield and keep killing our traditional style of play. Just because he has had the opportunities to score some goals with super eagles cant distract me from talking about his ineffectiveness in the super eagles midfield set up. He has not brought any sort of creativity nor presence....just give me , I give you. We need Nwakali and if Iwobi continue to sit on the bench then stop inviting him.

The day we get a proper midfield operator like Nwakali , the little Amoo who plays in Sweden and his teammate, who plays Ndidi position is the day the full potentials of this current super eagles will come to light.

The players who are killing our current super eagles are Ndidi , Iwobi , Ekong, Aina Moses Simon and Aribo! As for Aribo , una eyes go soon open...dont say I didn't warn you. Aribo is a flash in the pan with super eagles una give am our legendary number 10 because he is English.

The iwobi for Nigeria is a much better iwobi than the club version. He has done Relatively ok for Nigeria

BascoVanVeli:
That would have been rude na to me he is setting a standard of selflessness. After a while they will all have his mindset of going for the win instead of personal glory.

Rude ke? You're clear on goal as a top striker you should be shooting. But they scored that goal so I guess osimehn made the right decision. BTW, can make a complication for Paul Onuachu let's see the calibre of goals that he scored all season

AndSunGorilla:
Should Iwobi leave Everton? He is becoming a permanent fixture on the bench. Even with James injured, Alex still couldn't make the team. I hope he bounces back strong for next season. Could a side like Aston Villa, Brighton, Southampton or Palace suit him better?

He has to work on his weakness. First of all, he must find his best position and learn/keep practicing the main duties of that position. If you're a winger, learn how to create chances, crosses, leaving for a new club will not do anything. Soon as our players Is found wanting, people will advocate for a change in clubs instead of working on their weaknesses as if changing a club and not working on your weakness will change anything. Iwobi must find his best position 1st

Noahubspot:
Since Onauchu is that GOOD. Why isn't TOP European Clubs going after HIM?

W. Ndidi
V. Osimhen

These guys all played for clubs in Belgium and sooner found their footings in TOP European clubs where they're now doing VERY well.

So, until Onauchu finds himself a TOP European club, then all these goals flying around are just loads of Bullsh!t.

It's a gradual process. Right now, he is at belgium league next will be a transition to the big 5 most likely France then if he succeeds there, he will sign for a club in the big 3. (England, Italy or spain) it's a gradual process guy don't trivalize a goal scoring number of 32 goals in 35 because it took 40 years to break

[quote author=TheSuperNerd post=101644525]Onuachu is confirmed as yesterday's MOTM for Genk.

Interesting stat: Do you know that Onuachu's goal yesterday was his 11th headed goal out of the 32 league goals he's bagged so far? Well now you know.


See his goal here (link below).

✈️ | Paul Onuachu est inarrêtable ! 🔥 #GNKAND pic.twitter.com/73Jml4UA11

— DAZN Belgique (@DAZN_BEFR) May 12, 2021

just wish that coach Rohr can advise his wingers and full backs to practice good crossing because it will benefit Paul onuachu

What do yall think about onuachu? Can he sign to the big 3 directly from a smaller league or should he sign to a farmer's league 1st? Remember ndidi signed directly from Belgium to Epl and became successful

Philosopher1979:
It may sound like im hyping him but Akinkunmi Amoo is the next big thing in Nigerian football. Less than 20 matches and teams are already after him. Leicester, club brugge etc. According to scorenigeria.com club brugge had a 4 million euro bid for him rejected

He looks like another potential star in the mood of chuwkwueze, osimehn won't be surprised if Rohr invites him soon

Arabiandude:
That guy is the worst moniker ever to grace this noble thread.
His likes are found at romance section and I wonder why the mod of this section hasn't ban him from ever gaining access to this thread.
He acts like a sadist and nag like a pregnant woman. I pity for the woman that will stay with him under one roof

Before you were born, I was in this thread. If you think that I am lying go and ask The moderators. Na we start this thing back in the head. You dey lucky say na online you fit talk trash

TheSuperNerd:
Abeg, Stop saying 40plus games to hide the actual numbers.
It is 47 games. That's close to 50 okay. And Cavani bagged 41 starts in those 47 games.

Osimhen on the other hand will only end up with 19 starts from 30 games in all Competitions. Wayyyy short of Cavani's first Napoli seasons because of Osimhen's injury episodes. YET, in the face of that, the lad is already on 10 goals + 3 assists in 17 starts out of 28 games. And is also the second youngest player in the European Top 5 leagues currently to bag double digit figures in Two consecutive seasons.

The others are Haaland (youngest), Mbappe (third youngest), Rashford and then lautaro martinez.

So I repeat, your assessment of Osimhen's season is simply bollocks. He has done well given the circumstances and is bound to do even far better next season with the injury nightmares behind him.


First graphic: Courtesy of Opta on the best young scorers in the Euro Top 5 Leagues for 2 consecutive seasons.

Second graphic: Courtesy of a part of the Napoli fanbase based in Naples honoring Osimhen's 10 league goals milestone in quicker time compared to two other greats despite his injury battles.
(Go and beat them and erase the stats naa)


Honestly, you are just a Loquacious non-thinking moniker. Try to relax and understand before you post more nonsense. I'm done with you abeg. Bye.

33 goals in 47 games is much better Game to goal ratio than 10 goals in 28 game. In micheal Blackston (Try again modasucka) posting irrelevant jargons like first to score 1, 2, 10 goals has no benefit to the overall grand scheme of things

kellycute:
but when people start praising their favorite you get irritated. Why not jump and pass?

You are so dumb to realize that osimehn and ndidi are also my boys but I have to be objective, factual and logical as clear as possible. I cannot add favoritism to my analyst or else, I will become biased. I was the only one to say osimehn and ndidi will get into super eagles team from.1994 upward until today and I'm still sticking to my story

jihday:
Abraham of last season and Osimhen of this season have identical stats with Osimhen being marginally better. Yes we'll hype Osimhen because he's our boy, if we don't hype him is it Gary Neville that will hype him for us?

That's the difference between a beer parlour analyst vs a real analyst. One denotes emotion is his analyst while another one is emotionless and only discuss Facts, Logic etc. Thanks for being frank and officially telling us why

TheSuperNerd:
This quote above had a BIG NOTE addressed to monikers like you. Read it and understand.


@bolded in your own post.... It is now made absolutely 100% clear to me that you really lack the ability to grasp a simple statement made by me.
Who was referring to Cavani's time at Palermo?? I only reminded your Oversabi Loquacious self to see that Cavani have had four seasons in Serie A before he even joined Napoli to make those first-season-at-Napoli numbers in serie A unlike Osimhen who is just having his first ever serie A season.

I gave you Cavani's first season numbers at Napoli achieved all without Injuries.
Then I presented Osimhen's with his plagued with Injuries.

I clearly stated that even for a full season Osimhen will only make half the league starts (16 starts from 24 games) that Cavani made in his own first season at Napoli (32 starts in 35 games).


But as usual, you are too slow to understand. You are faster to respond and the slowest to understand.

And with that, You missed the point AS USUAL. The point is Cavani had the luxury of already adapting to the league with four seasons of experience behind him in same league before he Joined Napoli for his own first season with them in 2010/2011 plus he had no Injury nightmares like Osimhen faced. Na wa!!! Is that hard to understand?

Biko.... What again did I tell you about understanding the context of my post before you quote me? Can't you see you need help? You no dey ever get my posts. It is now a disease with you. Guy, try dey pour cold water for your head abeg.

And the stats of Osimhen's 10 goals milestone still stands. He reached it faster than Cavani and Higuain did in Napoli colors in their own first seasons. You hate the stat?? Go take it up with the Napoli fans and analysts who put it out there.



Mister noisemaker, Ciao.

Mr man, in the grand scheme of things all these you posted are Irrelevant Piece of Dog shit nonsense. No one absolutely no one cares about moral victory piece of shit stats like such you posted. What people care about is the "end season stats" i.e total aggregate and in
Cavani case he scored 31 goals in 40 plus games in his 1st season at Napoli
While osimehn has scored 10 in 28 games thus far. This is what people actually pay attention and analyze not irrelevant nonsense like "first to score 1, 2, 10 goals". You're the one that mentioned cavani and pipita name in this discussion that's why I countered it by posting the full stats.



"Osimhen reached 10 goals in Serie A faster than Cavani and Higuain did in their own first seasons with Napoli. That is hard fact..."



This was your comment in the osimehn vs cavani debate. Please, don't try to rephrase your statement without acknowledging what you first posted regarding that topic. You mentioned cavani and pipita name vs osimehn in regards to who was first to reach 10 goals (irrelevant piece of shit stats) but didn't mention the full overall stats that matter. I.e Overall season goals and I expatiated on it

nairalandankrah:
Osimhen gets man of the match despite not scoring..
Now that is a beast right there!

Now, another one that thinks his talking to football Novices by outright lying. When their fact doesn't work, they will result to LIES. post the official man of the match given to by Seria A and see who was MOM then edit your statement. Stop lying to the general public because records are available online.

There is the official MOM given after each game by Seria A sponsors and there's MOM given by "local agberos association" broda shaggi and co. Please, specify which one you're referring to

superbloke:
My guy, you need to calm down and always put proper context to what people are saying. Not everything is black and white. Let me explain:

The way I see it, you and thesupernerd are saying the same thing ultimately concerning Osimhen. The difference is that you seem to insinuate his injuries and illnesses are his fault, otherwise, why should he not have scored a lot more despite the high expectations. I do understand that with great power (huge transfer fee) comes great responsibility, but to be fair, he has been hindered this season. From his displays, it is obvious he will score a lot more goals next season, hopefully he stays injury free. Most of the things you say he doesn't have are the things he showed last season in Lille, which was why he cost that much and Napoli paid for him. It wasn't just the goals.

With regards to his other contributions, yes scoring goals is his primary purpose. But other attributes are equally important like how well he plays, bringing his teammates into the game and creating chances for himself and others out of nothing. Otherwise, they'll just be another Crotone with a top scorer but zero end result fighting for relevance. It's not always about a player but also the team. There is a reason Firminho plays most of Liverpool's matches even though he doesn't score many goals. He is their number 9, but he assists more than he scores. There is more he brings to the team than just scoring goals.

With regards to Ndidi, I hope you know he's studying at Leicester while playing professional football...as in he's in the university. He has said he wants to get his degree before ending his career. I reckon he's close to done with his studies and offers will definitely come. It's not like you are in Leicester's inner circle to know he has been rejecting offers due to small ambition. Not everything has to go the way you want it. You can't deny how good a player is because he is not playing for Madrid or United. We all know how Suarez was killing it at Ajax and did even better when he moved to Liverpool. He always had it. He did not suddenly become good because he was now in Liverpool. Same with Ibrahimovic, Kante, Bruno, etc. Vardy has been with Leicester for how many years now, churning out goals each season. That he has not left for a bigger club will not diminish his status as a top level striker. Harry Kane is another example. There was also Totti who spent his whole career in Roma despite the likes of Madrid always coming for him. It was his choice. That did not diminish his status. Infact, he is one of the legendary playmakers in Serie A and in football generally. My point is, when the time comes, Ndidi will get his big move and he will be even better.

At the end of the day, football in this day and age is not black and white. There are many factors, considerations and stats to decisions being made. Sometimes, the devil is in the details.

All these you said are good but at the end off the day, if you want to win individual trophies or have the chance to be nominated for individual trophies like Apoy, YOU have to be at a big team that's competing for Collective trophies and excel at those big team. Anything contrary, and it will be difficult winning individual trophies. But, I won't accept any irrational and asanine statements like "ndidi is better than kante" when he hasn't proven himself enough to justify those statements. You're saying it like if ndidi signs for a bigger epl team, he won't have access to his university or chances to attend classes at school. That my friend is a piece of nonsense shit advise. At the end of the day, I want our best players at the best clubs in the world and after many years and excelling at a small club, one has nothing else to prove. He needs to move out

BascoVanVeli:
My favorite part was him getting out of the way for Lozano to score his goal. That should show u everything u need to know about Victor Osimhen. A very unselfish individual.

That was a site to behold on a grand scheme of things, he should be aiming to score that goal because he is a striker signed to score. (It was a kind and unselfish move sha)

jihday:
nobody will take you serious because you aren't being honest with your analysis. You've been mentioning Tammy's name since but you forgot to tell us that brother have 6 goals in 22 epl matches?

Not this season but last season when he scored 15 Epl goals Nigerians here trivalized that return are the same ones trying to be kind now our guy has 10 seria a goals

TheSuperNerd:
This guy is delusional... Worse than I envisaged.

First of all, it was never an Osimhen vs Cavani debate. It was only a reference to show how good Osimhen have come this season despite the struggles. And I did leave a note stating that no one should misinterpret my original post because there will always be that someone who is not smart enough to get the message. And as always it turned out to be you. You really don't disappoint in showcasing silliness.


Now on Cavani and Osimhen's first Napoli seasons, One played 35 league games with 32 starts. In all, 42 starts from 47 games and had 33 goals + 7 assists. No injury nightmares. Plus that was not Cavani's first season in Serie A. Cavani have had 4 full seasons in Italy before he Joined Napoli.


But the other will finish "projectively" with 24 league games (16 starts). 30 games in all (19 starts). IN AN INJURY-RAVAGED SEASON. Also his first in Serie A.

But currently on 10 goals + 3 assists in 28 games (17 starts). 13 goals contributions in 17 starts is just as good IN AN INJURY-RAVAGED SEASON (first season in Serie A).

Added to the fact that Osimhen got to 10 Napoli Serie A goals in faster time than Cavani did IN AN INJURY-RAVAGED SEASON compared to Cavani's smooth sail.


So, mister noisemaker... You are indeed a beer parlor analyst and a novice and yes ofcos my memes make you cry which is why you mention them. E pain you.

Try again. Lol

"Osimhen reached 10 goals in Serie A faster than Cavani and Higuain did in their own first seasons with Napoli. That is hard fact..."




this was your quote on cavani now you're saying that you were referring to cavani first season at Palermo even though you wrote napoli here. Anyway, cavani wasn't signed for an astronomical amount at Palermo. Anyway, like I said a striker signed for an astronomical amount is expect to return a higher ROI than 10 goals ideal stop mentioning "moral victory" like hold up play, nonsense blah blah because if he was a non Nigerian with the same stats, you won't be this kind. Osimehn has been average this season "C" didn't flop and wasn't exceptional but he has potential to surpass this tally next season but do not in any form shape or way try to celebrate moral victories because he is here to score goals. You were the one that brought up cavani name in this discussion trying to deceive Novices by mentioning irrelevant stats like "first to score 1, 2, 10 goals" that's why I followed up by posting the full stats

TheSuperNerd:
You missed the memo below...

"So biko don't quote me if you're going to keep refusing to acknowledge the whole context of the head trauma, Covid and Shoulder injury episodes Osimhen battled this season on his way to his current impressive form of 7 goals + 2 assists in his last 9 games for Napoli."

10 goals + 3 assists in 22 league games (14 starts) in a first serie A season despite battling months of Shoulder injury, Covid and Head trauma is a Huge Win for a young striker bought with high expectations. It shows more will come as he maintains top fitness putting his injury woes behind him.
And why I mentioned Osimhen's other attributes is because I have always maintained on this thread that Osimhen is one of the most complete strikers on the planet today. Even more complete than Haaland who I have tagged "The Goals Machine" several times on this same thread. Osimhen has almost eveything in his locker if not everything. But as usual, the contexts of my posts are always lost on you. I really look forward to the day you will finally get my post context right. But so far, you are a long way from there mister. A mental long way.

Why are you ignoring other games aside of seria A games? Stop mentioning stats that's beneficial to your argument and post the full stats.
10 in 22 Seria A games (Not bad) but for 90 Million Dollars, you're expected to score more
10 in 28 overall Games (Not good enough for 90 Million)

If osimehn is a back up striker that was signed for 20 Million, I will call this season A Huge Success. But, because of the Huge transfer Fee and G to G Ratio, I will rank Him a C. He didn't Flop neither was he Exceptional or justified that 90 Mil fee. The good side of it is his age, (22) and injuries sustained affected his Game to goal ratio. But, we must accept his weakness and he must work on his weakness. Stay calm in front of goal and stop missing sitters