Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by 4everGod1: 9:33am On Jul 05, 2016 |
donnffd: Lol, most of your questions are disconnected and many of them are just ignorant.
Please ask an intelligent question, one at a time, then i wud answer you to the best of my knowledge, but dis is not intelligent at all.
Like asking if evolution is real, hw does it explain gravity? Seriously dude? Ok since they are ignorant questions kindly help my ignorance by answering the questions. Or do you need more time to carry out a research? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bigotry Of Atheism by 4everGod1: 9:30am On Jul 05, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: Christianity is the belief there was once absolutely nothing. And nothing happened to the nothing and then the nothing magically became god, creating everything and everywhere.
Does the above make sense to you? Yet they complain when we want to mock this belief? They are simply placed here on earth to Provide us with Cosmic Comic relief.
What would actually be an irony is if that your above belief actually true I suppose your big bang theory of random occurrences that suddenly lost their randomness and began to intelligently follow a certain order makes more sense to you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bigotry Of Atheism by 4everGod1: 9:28am On Jul 05, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: Ha! This is hilarious, we atheists accept our ignorance of things and say "we don't know" but the theists fill those ignorance with the "supernatural"
This reasoning is simply put "god of the gaps"
Look for something man can't explain then say "Goddidit"
Just to be clear, exactly the same place you go. They stay dead, dead people don't go anywhere because they are fvcking dead
So until we know something different for a fact, I hold on to that Newsflash, not every atheist accepts big bang; unlike Christians that believe in Yahweh, atheists are not organised so stop assuming all atheists are the same When you assume, you make an A.SS out of U and ME
Another assumption that all atheists accept the evolution theory
I think you're in a better position to answer for yourself
Another assumption
Still same assumption
I've answered the long one
You met no one on the atheist's imaginary turf
Stop assuming all atheists are the same
Interesting, I'm sure if tomorrow, science gives satisfactory answers to each of these questions you'll still hold on to your belief, stop tryna deceive yourself because I'm sure you'll simply move to the next question science has not been able to answer and the gap continues You would make a good quarterback because one of your star qualities is the ability to dodge whats right in front of you. In essence what you just succeeded in saying is that all Atheists are a bunch of confused people because even amongst themselves they disagree in beliefs. Yet you guys are the supposedly wisest of all by denying everything else but your thoughts and this brings me to the issue of choice and free will.....so you are all free to think randomly but no rationally as its based on the choice of the individual atheist and not your collective agreement which to me depicts a confused state of mind because all it shows is that you are all winning to hold onto anything just to prove your assumption that God does not exist... I am sure an Atheist somewhere believes that the excreta or pee we pass out is still evolving and one day we will excrete a living thing formed from Poo or pee. You see confusion has a way of creating an illussion of reality to you guys especially if you are confused enough. Its like a mad man living in his own world...every other person outside his world is insane and he in his insanity is sane even when he defaecates and pees on himself and eats from the rubbish heap and is dressed in rags and stinks to the high heavens from not having a bath for months...yet those who do not do what he does are the insane ones. Make una continue with una factory fitted Atheism |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by 4everGod1: 9:03am On Jul 05, 2016 |
donnffd: Einstein was a theist either, he was a pantheist, go check it out, he ddnt believe in a personal God, he just believed in a sense of order and beauty in which he called God.
Thats part of the reason why he ddnt believe in the randomness of the quantum world because he wanted the universe to be ordered, and hence his mistake.
The universe at its smallest scales is very disordered and probabilistic, a feature Einstein never believed it has.
You theist have dis tradition of always accepting wat an authority tells you like your pastor and bishops, they are Gods representative so they cant be wrong.
Well we dont have any authorities in science, even the best scientists of all time can be proven wrong. So to you the universe is disordered and probablistic and this makes its occurrence random right? Then kindly answer these questions to further buttress your random theory Question: if I put 10000 Atheists in a room andi ask them to tell me the Origin of the wind and where its going to..would they be able to? Question: Do you know where you are going when you die? Question: How did the planets form when the Big Bang explosion all of a sudden happened? After all, you don’t see round objects form when something blows up. Question : if evolution is real, how can it explain gravity, angular momentum, human emotions, and why we worship God? Question:Why do we not see half trees and half carrots, fronkeys, and crocoducks if evolution is real? Question:Why do we not see black people come from white people? Let me even cut it short. What explains the fine tuning of the universe? Why is the universe rational? Where did the genetic code come from? How is independent thought possible in a world ruled by chance and necessity? How do we account for self-awareness? How is free will possible in a material universe? I decided to meet you on your own turf since you are n Atheist to ask you these questions based on your belief. Make me an Atheist believer by answering just one of those questions. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by 4everGod1: 8:44am On Jul 05, 2016 |
HardMirror: Same with Billions or trillions of coincidences that happens around the world everyday. Probability of many happening is almost zero. It is very probable to live in constant fear and eventually something happens that makes you believe your fears were justified. So it is not as improbable as you think that while he was fasting something happened that made him believe his fasting was ordained to save the situation. I repeat, do you know the billions of other prayers and premonitions that never panned out? So what is there to celebrate when occasionally you see something that coincides with your expectation? Dude my expectation as you put it is based on the acceptance of my belief which is that God exists and I love Him. Your expectation or lack of is based on your belief that God does not exist or you hate Him. All this is not the issue here. The issue is that I want your expectation to prove my expectation wrong by offering me a well thought out explanation based on your belief. Do you have any? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by 4everGod1: 8:41am On Jul 05, 2016 |
efismikoko: Op Please can you tell us all the good things and bad things that has happened in ur short stay in life Unless u want to tell us all has been well with you... if not where was God then? Or he allows some bad to happen and averts the others Sir you are not the most holy person on earth o there are people who truly dine and eat with God but still go through things that are bad Haven't you seen a (holy) woman pray and cry over her son not to die even fast yet lost the child Oh you are more holy than her or God's mercy is more on you than her
My brother stop dreaming this things happens to babalawo, iman, pastors and even the atheist abeg
Please stop feeling special no one is we are all the same I asked for an explanation and you are here giving me a comparative lecture. Do you have an explanation to my particular situation period! |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bigotry Of Atheism by 4everGod1: 8:28am On Jul 05, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: Good
So which of the 5000 gods actually created the world?
That's a stupid question because you believe Yahweh created it
Same way Allah is said to have created it according to muslims
Same way Vishnu created it according to Hindus
And many other gods whose followers have faith that they're responsible for the creation
But don't worry. Only yours is actually correct Yeah only ours is actually correct and only your reasoning is trying to prove us wrong. Question: if I put 10000 Atheists in a room andi ask them to tell me the Origin of the wind and where its going to..would they be able to? Question: Do you know where you are going when you die? Question: How did the planets form when the Big Bang explosion all of a sudden happened? After all, you don’t see round objects form when something blows up. Question : if evolution is real, how can it explain gravity, angular momentum, human emotions, and why we worship God? Question:Why do we not see half trees and half carrots, fronkeys, and crocoducks if evolution is real? Question:Why do we not see black people come from white people? Let me even cut it short. What explains the fine tuning of the universe? Why is the universe rational? Where did the genetic code come from? How is independent thought possible in a world ruled by chance and necessity? How do we account for self-awareness? How is free will possible in a material universe? I decided to meet you on your own turf since you are n Atheist to ask you these questions based on your belief. Make me an Atheist believer by answering just one of those questions. I am waiting. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by 4everGod1: 11:17pm On Jul 04, 2016 |
mmsen: Whether it's food or drink - the fact that you hear (and listen to) voices that tell you what to do is not healthy.
And why did that voice not tell you to check on your child? I guess I must be insane fof listening to that voice and that insane man is sane enough to log on to the internet, open web pages, know peecisely what site to visit, click on reply on that site or quote and then type a super intelligent response to your highly imaginative opinion. My experience is mine... when you have yours then my explanation would make sense to you. Until you do, explaining or discussing this with you is as good as trying to speak queens english to a Lizard. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bigotry Of Atheism by 4everGod1: 10:59pm On Jul 04, 2016 |
Seun: winner01: You know what would be ironic if the bible was true? Going to hell for lying for Jesus.
"and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." Revelations 21:8. Atheism is the belief there was once absolutely nothing. And nothing happened to the nothing and then the nothing magically exploded (for no reason), creating everything and everywhere. Then a bunch of the exploded everything magically rearranged itself (for no reason whatsoever), into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs. Does the above make sense to you? Yet they want to mock and explain my beliefs? They are simply placed here on earth to Provide us with Cosmic Comic relief. What would actually be an irony is if that your above belief actually turns out to be true. FYI nobody is instructed to lie FOR Jesus in the Scriptures. Where you quoted from in Revelations talks about the Devil being the father of lies so if you are a liar then you have automatically yoked yourself together with him so where he has been judged to go (which is hell) the liar would go with him as the choice of obedience or disobedience rests with the individual...likewise destination. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by 4everGod1: 10:46pm On Jul 04, 2016 |
donnffd: There is no point trying to give you an explanation because you never would be satisfied with it.
Your mind has already been conditioned in such a way that when anything that is beyond your scope of comprehension happens, you attribute it to God, or spiritual forces and the likes.
If you were born 2500years ago in ancient greece and had this same scenerio, you would say it was the work of Zeus
If you were born 4000years ago in ancient egypt and had this same scenerio, you would say it was the work of Horus, or Isis or watever gods you believed in
If you were an Indian, and had this same scenerio, you would argue that it was the Lord Vishnu and his son Krishna that protected your son.
Noone can change your mind, especially not an atheist. The simple reason why an Aitheist can not offer me an explanation on my experience is because Atheism is the belief there was once absolutely nothing. And nothing happened to the nothing until the nothing magically exploded (for no reason), creating everything and everywhere. Then a bunch of the exploded everything magically rearranged itself (for no reason whatsoever), into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.
Does the above make sense to you? Yet they want to mock and explain my beliefs? They are simply placed here on earth to Provide us with Cosmic Comic relief. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by 4everGod1: 10:33pm On Jul 04, 2016 |
CAPSLOCKED:
INSTEAD OF GIVING THANKS TO THE MAN WHO PROMPTLY SNATCHED THE CHILD FROM THE ROAD AS THE VEHICLE APPROACHED, THEY'LL BE GIVING THANKS TO GOD.
HOW UNGRATEFUL! The atheist can appeal to nothing absolute, nothing objectively true for all people, it is just mere opinion enforced by might. The Christian appeals to a standard outside himself/herself in which truth and qualitative values can be made sense of. Only a Christian believer can make sense of it all. You cannot. Besides all you Atheists who are always trying to debunk Christian values have in the background values of your own which you believe to be immune from the debunking process. In short you see yourselves as the perfection of humanity. I laugh in swahili because all this goes to show that your minds are simply out of its element. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by 4everGod1: 10:25pm On Jul 04, 2016 |
felixomor: Spot on. "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse..."-Romans 1:19-20 "The three great apostles of practical atheism, that make converts without persecuting, and retain them without preaching, are wealth, health and power. You see as far as I am concerned Atheists do not exist. I say this because anytime you ask an Atheist to tell you what makes him one all he would end up doing is try to explain to you his religion of unbelief. They are only trying to explain away their belief by using unbelief. |
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Cold Mineral!
Chin chin!
Bottled water.. cold bottle water here!
All those who purchase the above items while in traffic na una I pity for pass. Now na to enter Chicken republic buy take away snack for traffic things sure pass. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by 4everGod1: 8:30pm On Jul 04, 2016*. Modified: 8:59pm On Jul 04, 2016 |
donnffd: are you a troll? or just plain ignorant?!
If you dont know the difference between Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity, dont mention me again! Be it Quantum mechanics or General Relativity who originated both and named them accordingly and decided that it must be so? Why was it not named Relativity mechanics and General Mechanics....why those specific names? Both the originator of Quantum Mechanics and those who wish to disprove it where they both involved in the making of the universe? Were theh present when the alleged big bang theory occurred or the very first atom turned up? Why do they believe so much in whatever they say? Were they there when IT all began to believe in their own conclussions? You need to know thag Faith shows itself in different areas and colours but SCIENCE IS JUST ANOTHER WAY OF WORSHIPPING GOD . THE MORE THEY DISCOVER THE MORE GOD IS GLORIFIED IN THAT DISCOVERY. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by 4everGod1: 8:21pm On Jul 04, 2016 |
mmsen: I said 'suggests'.
And if you hear voices that tell you to stop eating for a week than that would suggest insanity. I never said my fast was food based. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by 4everGod1: 8:17pm On Jul 04, 2016 |
iamtewwy: Bros ur instinct was at work there. And secondly ur god need u to starve ursef befr he can do his job? As for you who gave the reason of instinct and asked if God needed me to starve myself before he showed up allow me explain something to you. Fasting is in various forms and I never stated the one I did but let me help you further....a fast is never complete without prayers and I never abstained from food as thats not my passion. Next to God and my wife my next passion is my business so my fast was to abstain from attending to my business and picking up business calls and not food related. Instinct could not have been the reason behind what happened because instinct is fallible but this occurrence was well scripted and executed and all fell perfectly into the timeline which it had to in order to work....instinct isnt constructive...instinct is a flash in a pan. THIS WAS GOD AS HE HAS ALWAYS DONE AND SHOWN HIMSELF TO ME BEFORE NOW. Deal with it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Please I Need An Explanation. Coincidence Or Reality? by 4everGod1: 8:00pm On Jul 04, 2016 |
seggzz: @damogul felixomor Ok here we go... at about 9.30pm on the 1st of July 2016 while sitting at home and meditating on the events of the day (which is a common practice of mine) I heard a voice clearly tell me that I should embark on a 7 day fast. Now over time in my walk with God I have come to know when he speaks to me and so I knew He was the one. Thomas Edison also heard a voice. Can we say it is also God voice? Does hearing voice means hearing the voice of a god? ANSWER: Auditory Hallucination to the bolded
I began this fast immediately without questioning the reason behind it. Now fast forward to yesterday afternoon after church my wife, my son and I all went home and I decided to take a short rest while my son was busy watching his cartoons. If the same voice asked you to leave your job and follow him would you not question him?
My wife came into the bedroom briefly to let me know she wants to go down the road to buy some vegies and stew stuff and she left. Now this is where it gets interesting.
I live in Ajah and those who understand the ajah expressway and how dangerous it is would attest to what I am about to say. The distance from my house to the express is about 300 to 400 meters and my family especially my son is well know on our stretch of road and has never been seen alone as either my wife or myself are always with him.
My wife left but did not shut the front door properly. My son who is just 3yrs old got up opened the front door and opened my pedestrian gate which my wife did not lock when going out so she could easily come back in without knocking to wake me up and walked out. Your family is careless for not shutting the door is also God doing?
I woke up suddenly barely 2 mins after my son walked out and note I said barey 2 mins because I estimated how long it took him to get to where he did and myself to also get to where he got to after searching the house and compound for him. You woke up suddenly realizing your child is not in the room and rush out searching him/her is due to your seven days prayer.
He walked from my house passed where my wife was busy making purchases and straight into the middle of the lekki ajah expressway. Now this is my problem... nobody seemed to notice him when he was walking towards the express even those who knew him and it was the shouts of a keke driver thag got peoples attention and he (the keke man) jumped intl the road and began flagging fast approaching vehicles down before snatching him from the middle of the road. It was at that point of snatching him from the road that I got there due to the screeching of tires and shouts I heard.
My son broke down in tears due to the shock of the moment and myself and my wife of course got scolded by several people.
Question: why was it that it was after I was asked to fast and I obeyed that this calamity was averted?
Who asked me to fast? Was it my mind or based on sixth sense?
Note: we are not normally careless people my wife and I but the events of yesterday seemed like a well scripted occurrence....too well scripted from my little nap session to my wife going out to buy stuff which she normally does on our way back from church but didn't do this time even with money on her to the front door left slightly open to the pedestrian gate being open to the fact that nobody saw my 3 yr old son walking alone even when they knew him so well?
Please I need an explanation. Is there a link between my fast and the aversion of this disaster? Is there a scientific explanation to it? Was it nature playing a cruel joke? Your mind has been conditioned.
Answers pls.
Also note that in my life I have experienced quite a number of Strong spiritual occurrences so you need to offer me an explanation that is irrefutable so I can believe that things just happen for no reason.
“There is something infantile in the presumption that somebody else has a responsibility to give your life meaning and point… The truly adult view, by contrast, is that our life is as meaningful, as full and as wonderful as we choose to make it.” ― Richard Dawkins
You gave reasons for the good and bad things that come to you but you forgot that you cause them yourself. You would say it’s the devil that drove the innocent child outside and come back to say its god for saving the child forgetting It’s your carelessness.
You know it's pure coincidence. Can you simply answer this if truly your christian god is the only god. 1. WHY DO YOUR GOD PUT CONTRADICTORY WORDS IN THE BIBLE? 2. WHY DO YOUR GOD STILL SEND LITTLE CHILDREN TO HELL? 3. WHY DO BIBLE ENCOURAGE SLAVERY? Laughing like crazy here. I decided to sit back and watch all you Atheists show how empty you are as you all clutch at straws. Its amazing that the champions of atheism avoided this thread like a plague and those of you were bold enough to come in and comment ended up making submissions like someone infested with fire ants.....you were all over the place...lol Some said Instinct and other stuff but this one here has my award for most ridiculous statement ever made.. Auditory Hallucination? Why was the hallucination given in a timely manner? Pray tell us or is that coincidental? You say it was my carelessness but why was my carelessness also timely when I never am when it comes to my kid.... why did my wife also not buy stuff to cook with while on her way back from church but chose to do it after getting home first...something she has never done on a sunday...coincidence too? Now the reason why inam actually laughing at your folly is because every single of you Atheists who gave their submission said different things...why did you not all arrive at one reason why this all happened? Why the 20 different explanations? This clearly shows you all are living in your own individual heads and are victims of your own imaginations and reasonings. You base your individual explanations on personal experiences and knowledge which even is at loggerheads with each other. The only thing you all agree on is thag you do not believe God exists but when it comes to explaining it you all start stumbling about and being comfortable with whatever your little minds come up with as if you all are the brains behind the universe. Truth is that more you try to dig up reasons and explanations the emptier you prove to be. The day an Atheist can explain where the wind is coming from and where it is going then I know that Atheist has arrived. Laughing like crazy here. |
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