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The way the prevalence rate fluctuates with very large variations shows something is wrong with the data. |
iyobs7, just out of curiosity and you may not know the answer, what is the average wage of an Indian university lecturer? |
One needs to judge the relative likelihood of road accidents compared to air accidents. All evidence I have seen show the former is more likely than the latter. |
texazzpete: You misunderstand my post.The above clarification of your point is a distinction without a difference. The import of your post is that someone ought to be paid more because someone else, in an entirely unrelated sector albeit perceived as less prestigious, is paid more. Whether being paid more results in wage parity is immaterial. I don't want to turn the debate into an overly wonkish discussion but a few obvious points need to be made. A top notch engineer wishing to work in his field has 2 main options: work as an academic or an engineer in the public/private sector. If your friend didn't like the former he could have taken up the latter option. Without being privy to his particular circumstances, it would be reasonable to assume he couldn't find an engineering job attractive enough for him compared with being a cashier. If the assumption is correct, it belies the argument that funding for universities ought to be dramatically increased when the graduates can't find decent jobs in their chosen fields. Or is the thinking that increasing the supply or quality of graduates would increase the availability of graduates jobs? This is not to say that less graduates are good but that demands for more state funding requires a realistic assessment of what society gains from increased funding of a particular sector, in this case the university sector, over another. Which brings me to your second point. texazzpete: Actually, UNESCO recommends 26% of the budget for education as 'vital for national development'. There's still a lot of scope left in the 74% remaining if judiciously used. This IS a pragmatic way to develop a country.I agree that Nigeria needs to spend more on education and I have always advocated for free education up to the conclusion of secondary school. If you take ASUU demands which I understand to be spending of 1.3 trillion on universities over 4 years the annual cost, 425bn Naira, of which will be about 8.5% of Nigeria's 4.9 trillion Naira 2013 budget. Economists agree that primary education, followed by secondary education, provide more returns to society than university education therefore it follows that both must each be accorded greater priority than university education. So how would Nigeria fund primary and secondary education if universities get at least 425bn Naira each year? More specifically, where would you cut more money from? The obvious candidate is fuel subsidy but most Nigerians including ASUU campaigned for its retention at previous levels. With a subsidy expenditure at least 43% higher than health and education combined, it means that Nigerians including university lecturers value cheaper fuel more than good health and education put together. The usual populist retort is to point to the Aso Rock food budget, legislators' wages or militants income but scrapping all these in their entirety, apart from being politically unfeasible, won't go far to meet our education needs or just ASUU's demands. Apart from education, what about health which I think should be free for at least infants. Why spend an additional 425bn Naira per year on just universities when we have one of the world's highest rates of infant mortality (850,000 thousand dead in the last year, a mortality figure which will compete with the Biafra war casualty figures)? Is it right that our lecturers cannot subsist on a starting wage of 800,000 Naira per year, the figure could be higher, when we are facing a holocaust because of poor health facilities? What about our infrastructure in general, investment in which is needed to grow the economy so as to provide jobs for university graduates and tax revenue to fund society's needs including the much revered universities? Is the present imbalance between recurrent and capital expenditures in favour of the former not understood as making economic growth grind to snail pace, thereby jeopardising future university funding? If increasing public sector wages were a path to development, Nigerians will be one of the richest people on earth. Compare a civil servant's wage today to 15 years ago, minimum wage has gone from 800 Naira per month to 18,000 Naira. This is a death spiral as failing to address the country's economic capacity will lead to a decline in living standards as the cost of living rises faster than wage increases. Fewer business investments due to poor infrastructure means that we have to import a lot more of what we consume but our ability to import is dictated by the exchange rates which is gradually depreciating as the supply of foreign currency, dictated by the influx of foreign investments and foreign export revenues, cannot keep up with demand. Simply yanking up public sector wages without addressing adequately our infrastructure investment needs is long term st-upid. For me the numbers don't add up. ASUU's demands simply cannot be met within current budgetary environment which ignores the trade offs that meeting their demands entail. The populist retort is to claim that we can meet ASUU's demands if corruption is reduced. Those anyone seriously think that the extra funding to meet ASUU's demands will come from the portion of money stolen by politicians and not from the portion allocated to things like capital expenditure? |
There's a lot to be said about this subject but I will try and be as brief as possible. texazzpete: I feel sorry for prof.femi. He has displayed more tolerance than I would have, but it must feel like casting 'pearls before swine' at the moment. This is a forum where people like you will call lecturers out for being 'unqualified' yet complained bitterly when ASUU went on strike to press for more befitting remuneration for its members. I graduated in 2004. The best graduating student in Engineering in my set finished with a GPA of 4.89. The school offered this Electrical/Electronics Engineering graduate automatic employment. Do you know what the young Engineer did? He turned it down to become a cashier at Zenith Bank. So where are the qualified lecturers to come from when the best and brightest grads see the current system as not being lucrative enough, or are put off by the decaying infrastructure ?Few things irritate me as this dubious line of argument which I put in bold in the quote above and which goes as follows: Employee A should be paid more because employee B, operating in an entirely different sector by the way, is paid more. It stems from a profound misunderstanding that wages are largely a product of the interplay of the demand for and the supply of labour, with demand being a function of the financial resources of the employer. The notion that one group of employees, in this case university lecturers, deserve more by comparison to another group may perhaps be worthy of a debate about societal values and the like but is not the basis of sound economics or good policy making. It simply does not follow, even if you accept the premise that university lecturers should be paid more, that a person who ''deserves'' a higher wage must therefore be granted higher wages. I say this as a resident of country where train drivers with little more than A Levels (WAEC or JAMB equivalent) often make more than lecturers in Oxford and Cambridge (See the following links: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/52000-a-year-pay-deal-for-tube-drivers-and-theres-no-ban-on-strikes-6449485.html & [url]http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/Journals/THE/THE/10_May_2012/attachments/Average_salary_of_academic_staff.pdf [/url]) It is not even clear that Nigerian lecturers deserve a higher wage if the question is determined by reference to Nigeria's financial resources. From my understanding, starting wages for lecturers in Nigeria are around 800,000 Naira or $4900 per year in a country where most live on less than $1 a day, almost a million children die each year due to poor health conditions, life expectancy is at levels last found in medieval Europe and few have access to things like pipe-borne water or regular electricity. Of all the country's pressing needs, why is boosting the income of the relatively far better off in Nigeria (it will be fair to say our lecturers are at least in the 95th percentile of wage earners) the focus of our attention? The usual retort is to say that lecturers should be paid more when one considers the vast waste caused by corruption and theft. However, it is not clear why savings from waste should be directed to the well off and not to the vast majority of Nigerians for whom life is short, nasty and brutish. I have made this point in earlier posts but it is worth making again: increasing public sector wages requires trade offs and is in effect a zero sum game. Every increase in wages or expenditure in one particular area is met by a reduction in spending in another area. The national budget, if paid to each individual Nigerian, will work out at less than 32,000 Naira or $200 per person per year. You can bet your last Naira that increases in lecturers wages won't be met by reductions in oil theft or legislators wages, it will simply be met by reductions in public investments: fewer roads, medicine, hospitals and schools. Sincere 9gerian, though a paid hack, made a salient point that all the strike actions by ASUU and the consequent increase in wages have barely made a jot of difference to standards of education or the quality of life in Nigeria. This is why our recurrent expenditure is so high, we simply allocate more and more portions of the national budget to public sector workers in response to strike actions when economic growth and better standards of living require that money should be channeled towards public infrastructure. Do you know how much lecturers wages have increased in nominal terms over the last 2 decades whilst most Nigerians progressively slide into more poverty? Make no mistake, I have always said that Nigeria needs to spend significantly more on education as this builds up human capital. Where I differ from the ASUU defenders is my belief that this requires building more schools and providing more educational facilities and not simply wiring more money into lecturers bank accounts and certainly not an emphasis on university education. Why in a country where many don't make it to primary school and vast swathes of people, particularly in the North, do not finish secondary school do we think that University education alone, which benefits a minority made up of mainly Southerners justifies spending of close to 15% of the annual budget? Prioritising university education when primary and secondary education is appalling, is like building a house and starting with the roofing first. I support any strike action, be it by the NLC or the like, to force political change in general or specific politicians to resign. In respect of the latter, would a strike action by NUPENG or PENGASSAN not have an effect on the odious Ms Allison Madueke? What irritates me is when unions, a la ASUU, strike simply to increase their wages whilst operating behind the cloak of fighting for the general good. In my time in UNN, we witnessed protracted strikes preceeded by soaring talk of fighting for the general welfare of the university sector only for the strikes to be called off when the wage demands were met with no discernible improvement in university facilities. We will never learn until we realise that in a country of 170 million, policy and spending priorities have to maximise projects that affect the greatest number of people. University education, as laudable as it is, is a fixation for only a minority of Nigerians. While you and I are busy arguing on Nairaland about whether lecturers should be given more money, most of our country men and women will go to be hungry wondering where the next meal will come from. This is no way to develop a country. |
Prof Femi, would ASUU consider a termination of the strike if its infrastructure demands are met but not the allowance demands? |
Cockroaches may be considered vermin but one team of scientists has found a way to keep the pests under control - remote control that is.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2449562/The-app-lets-control-COCKROACH-Remote-controls-bug-using-electrical-impulses-launches--ethical.html
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Sincere 9gerian: I knew vultures will not allow this pass without making frantic efforts to draw cheap political gains from it. Oya add smuggling of rice to list of the 'sins' of GEJ. Yeye dey smell.Why raise tariffs to the point where it encourages more smuggling thereby undermining the policy's rationale? The tariff policy is designed to reduce importation whilst raising revenue. By raising it too high, revenue collection has fallen whilst importation continues unabated. |
The people in power, whether at state or federal level, are so unconcerned with the lives of ordinary Nigerians that they keep coming up with these stupid policies. The average Nigerian can't afford a brand new car whether made abroad or in Nigeria. So what purpose does this serve? |
infoscope: You are correct bro. Poor infrastructure is a general problem bedeviling Nigeria, but that doesn't stop us from speaking out against it. I am a student so for me education is my priority, hence this post. Those in the healthcare system should come out same with other sectors of life.I was only commenting in respect of those who take the view that University funding in Nigeria is appalling, therefore, government must accede to ASUU's demands. Funding for every major aspect - education, health, security and infrastructure - is appalling. You said that those in the healthcare system should come out but this ignores the fact that everyone does or will at some point require healthcare. Everyone is in the healthcare system or will be. |
You can easily start a thread about the deplorable state of infrastructure in Nigeria. This is a country where half of households don't have access to electricity, healthcare is virtually non-existent, roads are full of potholes and poorly maintained, there is no pipe-borne water and the ports are a disaster. Everything in that country necessary for a good living standard is appalling. To therefore select one aspect of life, universities, relevant to a few is foolhardy. Have you seen the state of primary and secondary schools in Nigeria? |
This tells us more about the lack of economic independence for women in Zamfara. The women claim they're struggling financially because they lack husbands. If women were educated and encouraged to be independent, they won't demand husbands so keenly. |
@OP, they better be paying you well for this image laundering. |
That Nigeria's economy is growing is undeniable but the growth is inspite of, not because of, the current administration. Growth shows up in many of the stats tracking consumer demand: whether internet usage, household goods, import volume, cement usage, fuel consumption, e.t.c. However, current growth is a product of high oil prices, growing population and having a low base economy which means that it takes very little to generate growth. If the FG was competent, we should be growing faster - GDP annual growth in double digits - and a greater slice of the population would have felt the impact. |
These airport projects are a waste of time and don't offer value for money. Weighing all the possible things money could be spent on:hospitals, schools, roads, e.t.c, airport projects constitute a monumental waste of money. Only Lagos and Abuja airports, PH to a lesser extent, are worth the money being plonked on them. I saw some FAAN stats recently showing that airports in the same region, Akure and Ibadan combined, generate less than 15% of the air traffic volume that Enugu airport generates. If both airports are struggling, what does Osun offer that that Oyo and Ondo don't? In a country where 825,000 children died prematurely in a year due to poor health, the elite are rejoicing over airports that most Nigerians won't be able to afford. |
A hatchet has been thrown through the window of a Nigerian family's home in central Belfast in a suspected racist attack.http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/sep/25/hatchet-suspected-racist-attack-belfast
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Gunmen have killed 160 people and abducted 10 married women in different villages of Zamfara State in the last three months, according to Governor Abdulazez Yari.[url]http://www.newsexpressngr.com/news/detail.php?news=2950&title=Gunmen-kill-160-in-Zamfara,-abduct-10-women&scid=46[/url] Mind you this is alleged to be over the course of 3 months but it remains a shocking tally. |
bloggernaija: The nigerian army is not underfunded.This excerpt is from an old El Rufai article which I still think is apt as I don't imagine much has changed. The total budget of the Army is N122.4bn, nearly a third of the total defence budget but only N5.77bn is for acquisition of equipment and weaponry, while N116.7bn is for recurrent needs.Like most Nigerian state organisations - universities, hospitals, the police - almost all of the military budget is swallowed up by personnel costs (wages) which leaves little to fund the objectives of the organisation. It's clear that our military lacks the necessary equipment needed to fight Boko Haram which partly explains stories like this. |
The suppression of these stories serve no purpose. The Nigerian military is underfunded, ill-trained and poorly led. How can Boko Haram lay siege to a place for hours and no reinforcement or air support can be sent? Meanwhile, while parts of the North East are experiencing the unimaginable horrors of war, Nigerian politicians and various segments of society are busying themselves with ''more important'' matters like 2015 elections and agitation for payment of allowances. |
Sam xiu lee: my brother there is nothing wrong with foreigners building industries,but its better if one of our own build those industries to prevent capital flights,do you know how much MTN is taking out of the economy?let me brake it down for you.This analysis is flawed. When foreigners invest in Nigeria, they bring in foreign capital into the country which is a good thing. Of course, they will repatriate their profits, but if you add the capital they brought in plus the multiplier effects in terms of jobs and skills created or enhanced for their Nigerian employees, the net outcome is good for Nigeria. Nigerian entrepreneurs do not bring in foreign capital unless by way of foreign sourced loans which in any case increases the country's foreign denominated debt. This is not bad if Nigerian owned businesses expand their business by exporting from Nigeria and thereby earning much needed foreign exchange. However, we know this isn't what happens. Nigerian firms are not export competitive. Further, it's important to point out that Nigerian entrepreneurs can also take money out of Nigeria. The problem of capital flight is not restricted to foreigners alone. |
The following few weeks continued to surprise me – and to make me feel very embarrassed about my initial preconceptions. I’ve been lucky enough to visit a whole range of places in the Delta State. The TV and radio stations need some work, but the staff are young, enthusiastic and very hard working. Warri, the oil centre, is a thriving hub that is only going to get bigger, with the construction of the largest business park in West Africa.Looks like a balanced article to me. Can hardly be described as overly negative. |
uceee: Anybody who knows ASUU will understand that even if all their demands are met they'll find a reason to go on strike next year. ASUU strike is a yearly event, they can't afford to miss.If I'm paid my wages whether or not I go on strike, the incentive for me will be to go on strike as much as possible. Here in the UK, the best you can do is go on strike for a day or two as you know the principle is: no work, no pay. |
Comparing Nigerian wages to US wages is like comparing Manchester City wages to Kano Pillars wages. Until Nigeria's economy grows to the point where it rivals the US's, we will continue to lag behind them. A better comparison will be the Nigerian minimum wage to that of developing countries with similar GDP per capita. |
13 September 2013 | NEW YORK/GENEVA - In 2012, approximately 6.6 million children worldwide – 18 000 children per day – died before reaching their fifth birthday, according to a new report released today by UNICEF, WHO, the World Bank Group and the United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs/Population Division. This is roughly half the number of under-fives who died in 1990, when more than 12 million children died.http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2013/child_mortality_causes_20130913/en/ If you're wondering about the figure, 6.6 million global child deaths of which Nigeria has a 13% share equates to 858,000. The state of this country causes more loss of lives per year than the Nigeria-Biafra war did. Not that this will inspire a reappraisal from the politicians to ASUU who try to pocket a bigger piece of a shrinking cake |
This thread is telling of our attitude. Had this been about ASUU, it could be at least 8 pages long by now. We're more concerned about university education which is out of the reach of most Nigerians than basic education for all. This attitude to nation building is like building a house by starting with the roofing. |
Kei144: Education sector does not equate to ASUU. As you travel around the country, do you see the kind of houses that constitute our primary and secondary schools? Primary and secondary schools are where almost every Nigerian youth goes through. Universities are for very privileged few,and yet people want to tell me that Nigeria educational system equates to universities. If Nigerians are so much interested in upgrading the educational system, the sections of the system that are used by majority of Nigerians should be given priority attention. Enough of this ASUU and NANS elitism. Somebody needs to speak for Nigerian masses whose only education are obtained in dilapidated primary and secondary school buildings.Don't mind them. The FG has responsibility for all Nigerians, 170m and counting. Most Nigerians don't have things we take for granted in the West - clean water, basic healthcare, electricity and decent security. Yet, the elite of Nigeria are obsessed with a product - tertiary education - which the overwhelming majority of Nigerians have no hope of using. Do people realise that only a tiny subset of the population actually attends universities? Poverty is more endemic in the North, why spend more on a product disproportionately used by Southerners? Every budgeting decision is a product of trade offs - should we spend on roads or wage hikes for instance. Nigeria's public sector is over bloated and relative to Nigeria's GDP per capita over paid. This is part of the reason why recurrent expenditure is so high. |
Their allowances are so minute compared to the bulk that would go into building class rooms, laboratories, lecture halls, etc. ASUU members wont share 87billion amongst themselves. They are fighting for all Nigerians. They want a better environment for learning so that these ignorant ones can get a proper education.I wish it were that simple. Which ASUU strike has not been preceded by ASUU demands for increased funding for universities, nevertheless, the strikes are called off as soon as lecturers wages are increased without a commensurate increase in university funding. I suspect the inclusion of these non-wage demands are a PR stunt for ASUU to give the impression that they are not clamoring for themselves. Further, why is it taken for granted that the Govt shouuld spend circa 500bn Naira, close to 10% of the annual budget, a year on universities when the vast majority of Nigerians won't attend University and instead require the meeting of basic needs like pipe-borne water, basic health care and housing? |
After years of battling Niger-Delta militants, the Govt has decided it is more cost-effective to pay them off and turn a blind eye to some stealing than to continue to engage in a full-scale military offensive which costs more, not just in terms of financing the military operations but also the loss in oil output. Perhaps, it's best to build military capacity until we are capable of defeating them. I've always said that the Nigerian military is incapable of winning a war against these militants, whether Boko Haram or the ND ones. A demand that the ND militants are not paid off is in effect a demand that we wage full scale war in the Niger-Delta. Goodluck with that, I hope the promoters of this volunteer to join the army. |
Devil's Advocate: Does the law allow the service of statutory notices by means of entering into private premises without the consent of the owner of the premises? Here in the UK, you can serve statutory tax notices by post but if you wish to serve it in person and require entrance into private premises, you have to have either the consent of the premises' owner/occupier or the backing of a court order. I suspect that Nigeria is the same. Does Ogun state have legal authority, arising from a court order or statute, to demand entry without consent? If not, then trying to force your way into someone's private property may be deemed as breaking and entering in response to which the owner/occupier can use reasonable force to remove the ''trespasser''. Of course, if Ogun state does then it is a simple matter and the church people should be made to face the full force of the law. If not, then hyperventilating in the media is a waste of time and they are best served by applying for a court order to demand entry. |
That's why Keshi likes to play home based players, so that he can take a cut from their transfer abroad, He doesn't have same leverage over the foreign based pros. |
It's true that the award of scholarship seems, as a matter of principle, to reward bad behaviour. However, one has to note that at that kid's age, he should be entitled to free education. Certainly, he will be so entitled in civilised countries. Therefore, giving a kid what should be his natural right, free education, should not be seen as a reward but a restoration of his entitlement which he has been robbed of by a thieving political class whose rapaciousness has negatively impacted that kid and rendered him desperate to flee the country. At a time ASUU are demanding 87bn Naira in additional allowances and PDP governors are requesting that they should not be investigated by EFCC, the fact that a kid has been given an opportunity to develop himself should not be seen as a wasteful gift. |
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