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[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=433167.msg5920341#msg5920341 date=1271712889]I refuse to believe this nansense. [/quote]You don't believe? That's how FL Gators got into the US. |
By the same absurd logic, national security affects the economy. If the likes of Gusau helped restore law and order to the country, the economy will be better. Therefore, Sanusi will be at liberty to tell off Gusau for not doing his job properly. |
So because he died, we're supposed to feel sorry? I have nominated him for the Darwin Award. ![]() In honor of Charles Darwin, the Darwin Awards commemorate those who improve our gene pool, by accidentally removing themselves from it. By necessity, the award is generally bestowed posthumously.http://www.darwinawards.com/ |
FL Gators:Shut up, is this not how how you came to America? |
The racket at the airport |
Greed and incompetence does not amount to fraud. There are people who are baying for blood but it's hard to establish criminal culpability on the part of bankers. The recent SEC action against Goldman Sachs seems to me a red herring and a publicity stunt. Time will prove GS right. |
I tend to lean conservative, so the Tories will be a natural choice for me. The country is running huge deficits and racking up debts. If the next Govt fails to demonstrate serious commitment to tackle the deficit, the market will take fright leading to rising bond yields and major economic crisis. Of the 3 parties, the Tories seem most committed to tackling the deficit but even their policy seems half-hearted. |
chamotex:Those 2 kids are Wenger's next prodigies. The Fat One is the new goalkeeper. |
What is this plonker doing commenting on Central Bank policy? That will be like Gen Jones, US National Security Adviser, postulating publicly about Ben Bernanke. I suppose given how much these generals have looted, he is probably a business mogul with major interests in some of these banks . |
If the Government embarked upon 5 to 10 year plans of delivering roads across the country through direct emergency public works doing away with the parasitic contract system, awarding contracts only for design not delivery, it could employ tens of thousands of jobless restless young men, put money in their pockets and boost demand for local goods and services and boost the countries infrastructure,We've tried this before. It's a shame Nigerians were not taught history extensively in school. What do you think happened in the 70s? We had a policy of major state investment in public infrastructure that led to huge debts and ultimately, led us into the hands of the IMF. There are millions of Nigerians unemployed. Oil revenues alone cannot finance the level of infrastructural investment that will increase productivity in the economy and consequently, provide jobs for the millions of unemployed. You are going to have to partner with the private sector as state planning has been proven to be a monumental failure. |
As the nation's power generation capacity continues to dwindle, an expert in the industry has revealed that only 40 per cent of Nigeria or less has access to power supply. A further breakdown of the figure shows that out of 140 million Nigerians, going by the last census exercise, only about 56 million are believed to have access to power supply.http://allafrica.com/stories/200805051625.html |
It's nice to laugh at Arsenal now but in 3 or 4 years time, Arsenal will be on a stronger financial footing than any of the Big 4. Wenger's key aim is to keep them in the top 4 until the debt is reduced to more manageable levels. |
A civil servant who sold passports and travel documents to illegal immigrants has been jailed for six years.Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1266569/Civil-servant-years-selling-passports-13-Nigerian-illegal-immigrants.html#ixzz0lS72qUE4 |
This is 1989: The fate of General Babangida's political program is inextricably linked to the performance of his economic program. And in the short term, Western diplomats and Nigerian officials believe that further strains from the austerity measures seem certain.http://www.nytimes.com/1989/06/04/world/economic-riots-are-spreading-in-nigeria.html?pagewanted=1 |
Update 11 years later: Perhaps the most important promise made by the new military leaders was to reopen stalled talks with the International Monetary Fund on rescheduling Nigeria's unmanageable foreign debt, now estimated to be $22 billion to $25 billion. Half of all Nigeria's annual oil revenues ($12.4 billion in 1984), which account for 95% of its total export earnings, are believed to be sucked up by interest payments on the debt. Moreover, as the world price for crude oil has declined over the past four years, Nigeria's revenues have been cut in half. Buhari had been seeking an IMF loan of $2.5 billion to $3.5 billion to help deal with the growing economic crisis, but he had refused to accept the international agency's demands that Nigeria first devalue its currency, the naira.[url]http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,959779-1,00.html[/url] I loved this bit: In 1983 alone, according to Oil Minister Tam David-West, $1 billion in petroleum was secretly diverted from state oil terminals to foreign tankers, with Nigerian businessmen and politicians taking the profits. Some reports say $1 million a day was skimmed from the public treasury. Transport Minister Dikko reportedly amassed a $1 billion fortune, much of it outside the country. |
Relax . . . it's an article from the 70s when Nigeria was being touted as potential superpower. Nigeria Agrees to Lend Total of $360 Million To World Bank, IMF[url]http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/djreprints/access/70960730.html?dids=70960730:70960730&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:AI&type=historic&date=Dec+24,+1974&author=&pub=Wall+Street+Journal&desc=Nigeria+Agrees+to+Lend+Total+of+$360+Million+To+World+Bank,+IMF&pqatl=google[/url] |
Dis Guy:13 is the age of consent in the North so it is legal. You can question the morality of what he's done or the age threshold set by law but it's not illegal. |
dayokanu:Rijkaard managed a team with players like Ronaldinho, Messi, Xavi, Etoo and Puyol. Wenger has never had such quality at his disposal, as much as Arsenal fans exaggerate the quality of their players. |
Rastamann:But you have to agree that the Pope and many of the clergy have been incredibly inept. It's not exclusively a Catholic problem as all of organised religion seems more focused on projecting a positive public image to keep the faithful happy and money flowing. However, the church's scale, history and unique claims for itself should mean that it should be setting an example if it is to retain any modicum of credibility. Obviously, taking this ineptitude to scream criminal conspiracy and call for prosecution is obviously often the work of bigots masquerading as concerned citizens but the moral culpability of much of the church hierarchy in failing to deal fairly with the abuse is without doubt. |
[quote author=A-40 link=topic=400313.msg5904885#msg5904885 date=1271446447]I say they fire the wigga and get Rijkaard! He has been left behind like a redundant student[/quote]How is Rijkaard better than Wenger? |
Electricity supply to residential consumers has to be subsidised as the average Nigerian cannot afford it. However, the price for industrial users can be left to the market to determine without subsidy. |
In my opinion, Wenger has one season left - he should NOT be offered another contract till he wins again at this club. Failure to do so will be to continue in an endless cycle of 'rebuilding'. In my opinion, Wenger has one season left - he should NOT be offered another contract till he wins again at this club. Failure to do so will be to continue in an endless cycle of 'rebuilding'. Wenger's project has failed abysmally.It's obvious someone has hijacked Debosky's NL id. This is definitely not Debosky, he has no iota of wisdom. ![]() |
Pastor AIO:I see you have tried to back away from your rabid bigotry with a little bit of sophistry. The pope, the head of this paedophilic organisation, was aware of it's activities and conspired in the cover up. Again if it was any other organisation it would be disbanded and all it's members charged with their crimes. But this is the Roman Catholic Church.If you suggest all members should be charged, your rather laughable attempt to backtrack speaks volumes. Let's move on to your nice little 'copy and paste' of an opinion piece. I think it's normal on this forum for the vacuous to resort to copy and paste: The article refers to a secret edict, so secret that it was published in the year of its promulgation: http://www.bishop-accountability.org/resources/resource-files/churchdocs/EpistulaEnglish.htm. This must be the only case in human history where a criminal conspiracy is published by the co-conspirators for all to peruse and comment on! This 2001 edict, unearthed by the BBC Panorama akin to Mungo Park's 'discovery' of River Niger, is supposed to be the smoking gun. Let's digress from the hilarious fact that details of this ''concealment'' had been made available to the public by the perpetrators. The point of the document is how the church deals with cases of solicitations during confessions using canon law. Here is Fr Doyle, who was quoted in the piece, analysing the document: According to the document, accusers and witnesses are bound by the secrecy obligationduring and after the process but certainly not prior to the initiation of the process. There is nobasis to assume that the Holy See envisioned this process to be a substitute for any secular legalprocess, criminal or civil. It is also incorrect to assume, as some have unfortunately done, thatthese two Vatican documents are proof of a conspiracy to hide sexually abusive priests or toprevent the disclosure of sexual crimes committed by clerics to secular authorities. Thedocuments were written in a style and within an ecclesiastical context common for that pre-conciliar age. Both are legal-canonical documents written in highly technical language. TheEnglish translation of Crimen sollicitationis, though basically accurate, is also strained andawkward which can lend itself to misunderstandinghttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GIKEpaeTmpgJ:www.richardsipe.com/Doyle/Commentary_on_Crimen_Solicitationis_04-1-08.pdf+http://www.richardsipe.com/Doyle/Commentary_on_Crimen_Solicitationis_04-1-08.pdf&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk One can argue, and I wholeheartedly agree, that the Pope should have made it explicitly clear in his instructions that emphasis must be placed on helping abuse victims but it's mind-bogglingly idiotic to claim that such failure amounts to a criminal conspiracy. |
Just watching the documentary on IPlayer. Not too bad after all. ![]() http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00s3bmx/Welcome_to_Lagos_Episode_1/ |
EloSela:Brits praising resourceful swarthy people, no doubt while quietly retiring into the night with their sense of innate superiority reinforced, is besides the point and is a fairly regular past time. Cue all those documentary programmes on the Masai and other African Bush people in Southern Africa. The fascination and praise can be compared to the same sort evoked whilst watching wildlife programmes. You will agree with me that Lekki/VI represents an opposite end of the scale to the slums shown by the BBC. Neither is truly representative of Lagos. The problem comes when the BBC insists on solely focusing, with an almost religious fervour, on a particular picture of Lagos which reinforces stereotypes about Africa, stereotypes which are often divorced from reality. |
Scroll down to page 19 of the file, it says that 70% of Christians in Nigeria would like the Bible to be the law of the land. The irony of the hysteria of this thread is remarkable. |
EloSela:I'm not a big fan of the bash the Western media campaign but my cynical side makes me feel there is a certain ghoulish delight many Brits have in showing Nigeria in a negative light. You talked about the Nigerian media always showing the positive but this BBC documentary doesn't redress this because its audience is a mainly British audience who already have the worst impressions, often comical, of how Nigeria is. |
eldee:Which facts? I've just read Dawkins's article in the Guardian titled,''The Pope Should Stand Trial''. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2010/apr/13/pope-prosecution-dawkins He mentions the Pope's stint as Archbishop in Munich. Remember that the claim here is that the Pope signed off to a decision to allow a paedophile priest work in a church,whilst undergoing therapy, where he had access to children. The priest went on to abuse. The problem here is that the decision to assign the priest to a parish where he eventually abused kids happened a whopping 6 months after the Pope left Munich. The seconds case he mentions is an American priest in Oakland. Here, the Pope considered a request to defrock the priest in the mid-80s,years after the priest had been prosecuted and convicted. The Pope's 'criminal' conduct here was basing his decision, which eventually was to defrock the priest, on things such as whether defrocking the priest was good for the church's image. Dawkins executes an audacious act of mendacity in his article by suggesting the matter was covered up despite the fact that the matter was already subject to a criminal trial. A rather sad case of bigotry masquerading as concern for children. |
eldee:You hope a 'trial process' will take place on the basis of what particular facts? It's almost as if you are saying that there is a case to answer because Richard Dawkins says so. Dawkins has a book and speaking tours to promote and benefits financially from publicity stunts. What facts does he possess regarding the Pope that the parents of the abused and prosecutors do not possess? |
Pastor AIO:A little more logic and less bigotry would help here. How do you propose to prosecute 1.1 bn people for pedophilia? Perhaps, you will be able to enlighten us on the mechanism for such a trial. You state that the Pope was aware of these abuses but conspired to cover it up, can you enlighten us on one specific example of this. another observation has come to my attention. I've noticed that certain psychological profiles/types are drawn to certain professions. Ie. Many gays are drawn to the arts, like dancers, or fashion designers. etcYour conjectures are quite sophomoric. It's a bit commonsensical to state that a craddle-robber will be drawn to any profession in which he can enjoy privileged access to children, e.g male teachers and other male child care workers face disproportionate charges of child sexual abuse compared to the general male population but it will take a leap of logic to claim that this means there is something fundamentally wrong with these professions. Is there evidence that incidents of paedophilia is more common amongst Catholic clergy that the general male populations, never mind men working in professions with regular access to children? |
[quote author=omo~fat link=topic=428850.msg5897258#msg5897258 date=1271341707]@4 Play - You debate in bad faith. The pope himself has apologized in general for the abuses suffered.[/quote]Stop being disingenuous. My question addresses the topic of the thread which is the suggestion that the Pope's actions warrant criminal prosecution. The Pope's apology for Irish priests' abuse can in no way be construed as implying criminal culpability on his part for concealment. That's exactly what I'm trying to avoid, a press trial.That sounds superficially sensible but you made these comments: So you're proud to admit that 'Saint Peter's successor' committed a crime against humanity and is only escaping from flaws in the law??Surely, if there needs to be a criminal trial, you should be able to state the facts which justify a trial as the mere existence of charges do not in of themselves justify stating that there needs to be a trial. Every major public leader is always the object of some charges,e.g Obama is supposed to have forged his educational qualifications to get into Harvard and engineered earthquakes in Haiti, Bush/Cheney plotted the 9-11 attacks and the Clintons murdered a key witness in the Whitewater scandal. If someone makes haughty declarations that these charges ''need'' to be aired in a criminal trial of the accused, you would at least expect the person to able to lay out the facts which give rise to such 'need' for a trial, otherwise, everyone accused of heinous crimes would be hauled before the courts. |
The Pope should be prosecuted for concealing paedophilia? Can someone lay out simply a summary, please no copy and paste, of a specific case where the Pope concealed child abuse? All the innuendo is smoke and mirrors without stating the particular facts which give rise to a criminal prosecution of the Pope. |
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[/quote]You don't believe? That's how FL Gators got into the US.
Not a single senator represenative had a go at him some even went to the party 