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musicwriter:
A human and his God are one and the same thing. Like water vapor crystalize to ice, a human being is the crystalized version of his/her God. If I see you I'll no longer have to ask you about your God because you're an embodiment of that. You'll show it unconsciously, you can't hide it!!

The killers and their God are one and the same thing, so stop waiting for any God outside of yourself to protect you because there's no such God. However, if you do so, it means you (your God) doesn't pursue a policy of war. And that's a good thing.

The above is one of the major reasons that Europeans and Arabs conquered the more humane cultures around the world who had better humane Gods. Those better Gods and people lived in the tropics around the world. That's why we became victims of savage Christian and Islamic Gods who killed millions of our ancestors to bring us to submission.

To solve this problem, the first step you must take as an African is quit Christianity and Islam because both represent evil as far as Africa is concerned.

Please, would it be possible to get it by ending? Would you have returned by then? Thanks.

nonny1212:
Confirmed lineup. Valverde RB

Nice. Hope Madrid grabs a win.

Interesting. What's the festival all about?

Is Ojo a deity (an orisa) in Yorubaland?

MaxInDHouse:
You quoted me first so if you feel like taking your leave i'll just say "farewell"

Okay.

MaxInDHouse:
That's the beauty of wisdom!
Whether they admit or not our own assignment is just to make sure they grasp the message of God's Kingdom {Matthew 28:19-20} so that it will stand as a witness against them {Matthew 24:14 compare to Matthew 10:13-15} and when JEHOVAH comes to destroy the wicked our God will be justified! Zephaniah 2:2-3

I'm done with the discussion. Don't quote me any longer.

You're merely repeating the same things an average Nigerian Christian says. Nothing new.

You fit continue with that nutcase suffering from a certain kind of mania.

OtemAtum:
This response is apt. I don't know why people think that life is all about discipleship. Can't everybody have his own mind again?

I don't understand the guy o. While I find most of your posts interesting and agree with many of them, I also have my reservations about many of your claims until I see evidence in support of them.

So, I don't understand where the discipleship thing came from when you already said you don't want to meet anyone and for my own peace of mind and safety, I like it that way.

I know the risk that came with just sending your book to a few people within my circles in 2018.

A stupid kid just uses a word he hardly knows the meaning. SMH

MaxInDHouse:
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, is this all your brain can decipher?
Well let me enlighten you!
Charms are products of demons (fallen angels) this creatures do get irritated by some things they're not use to in heaven where God created for them to live. No matter the covenant between the herbalist and the demon once the demon is irritated with items he has warmed the herbalist not to bring into his presence the demon will just abandon the herbalist.
The British coming to colonize you already know that you have a defense plan so they will first neutralize your charms or defense system before attacking you.
That's why the Yorùbás often say:

"B'íkú ilé ò bá p'ani t’òde ò leè p'aniyàn"

Meaning

If your enemies don't have an insider close to you it's impossible for them to get you"

For instance,
"Sunday Igboho's house was raded by police men"
That's what you hear in the news but nobody will tell you that some herbalists worked with the police officers to neutralize the charms the man is using to protect his home!

This post is full of unfounded claims.

Who neutralized the juju of those people that are supposed to demonstrate the potency of voodoo in that competition?

When something is a scam or superstition, its proponents always avoid any opportunity to scrutinize it.

Amoto94:
Tjay and DonJ we will revisit the discussion for now let's watch our game with relaxed mind

Lols

Buliwyf:
Lol if you have 10 million make I bend. You have already proven you will make any claim when you know you can't back it up. My first encounter with you where you were claiming contract expert but failing at it already showed that. Unfortunately first impressions matter a lot.

You brought up slapping Ooni first and he countered by citing Oba Akiolu as an example of the futility of juju. Even the Olu of Warri can't find his crown to this day.
You are saying he should enter your competition but you're anonymous and you can't even provide access to the Ooni to be slapped or any protection from physical harm when it's done. That's a bad faith argument already.

I was telling some proponents of juju in my vicinity that the British forces in the 19th century defeated many cities and towns in pre-colonial Nigeria to the extent that they pursued some kings from their palace, including the then Awujale of Ijebuland and the then Oba of Benin with all their juju.

And that time, juju was even said to be much stronger than what they claim to have currently.

I told these people that if the US, the UK, or China wants to colonize Nigeria again, no juju can stop them.

donjazet:
The fact that you know these guys shows your astuteness in research.
Then please tell me, how the fuck_ does an enlightened guy like you get to still be religious. It's befuddling and quite sad?
If you're truly enlightened, there is no way you will limit yourself to a particular religion. You are bound to have outgrown tribal, chauvinistic and jingoistic thought patterns. I look forward to seeing that from you. You seem very well informed.

That's the problem with being a slave: You see a highly intelligent person that deploys all his intellectual prowess to serve or worship a god, thus putting a cap on his intellectual achievements.

There are many people like that. They're very smart in all spheres of life except when it comes to their religion or god.

Those ones are sacred cows that must never be scrutinized or criticized.

Sometimes, it's not a matter of intellect for such people, but of fear and greed.

I know many smart guys and ladies like that who are first-class graduates from UI. Some are even best graduating students in their faculty or department.

But these highly intelligent people can't detect the glaring flaws in Qur'an, the Bible or the whole God or religion thing.

Thus, sometimes it's not a question of intellect but of fear and greed.

Segedinho:
Oh my poor havertz........

The "generational talent" is starting from the bench. Hmmm

Ooni of Ife has now turned to a commoner to be referred to in such a disparaging manner to prove something that doesn't exist is real.

Lols.

PeaceJoyLove:
Your 2.5milliin is rubbish. You want someone to prove to you life and death with 2.5m. Oga, I have written it up. If you can salp Ooni and return alive....10 million waits for you. Are you ready?

You're funny. Why would I slap a billionaire and first-class king to prove anything when I have deep respect for the Yoruba traditions as a Yoruba man?

You're not making any sense.

So, the whole juju thing only has to do with life and death. What a joke!

PeaceJoyLove:
To you it is scam. It is OK. When you drop dead mysteriously, dont worry, we will eat the akara (fried bean cake) they will prepare. After then, you can go and be shouting it is real or unreal in the spirit world. See, I dont have your time at time. If you want proof, then keep searching for it.

Bro...that you say scientific knowledge is what Ooni has means you know something..but you are mixing it up. They all meet in a place. That's what I will tell you. Science is deep. I am a deep researcher in science. If I take tou on that stuff, you will run away. And then, I went deep into some stuff when I was searching for God. I didnt even believe God again at a time, but I still acknowledged Him...I didnt move into atheism.. But I found Him. God is real. Those who seek Him do so in spirit.

Bro...juju is real. But it is wisdom. And since science is getting more powerful, the effect of juju is minimized. But it's still real. Confirmed.

Dont just do over sabi and kill yourself. That's my advice for you.

Goodluck!

Lols. We all saw how Danish player Christian Erikson collapsed on the field during a match in the Euros and survived the heart attack due to his country's advanced medical science.

He's alive now and has recuperated.

If such had happened in Nigeria, your likes would have called it a a spiritual attack from witches that don't exist in reality, and you would have sought spiritual help for the victim.

And he/she will most likely die due to lack of adequate medical care.

Simply enter the competition and prove juju is real, but here you're, posting long comments online.

KnownUnknown:
I’m too dull to believe in the spiritual and supernatural.

Then why am I wasting my time replying you when your argument no get head or tail?

You're as confused as your moniker!

Havertz10:
nothing wrong in what he said, i'm even surprised that he is clever enough to propose that

it's going to be long

Insightful submission.
I like lengthy posts with intelligent points.

Apart from Mount and few other issues, your submissions are thoughtful. But I don't understand your animus toward Mount or your infatuation with Havertz.

KnownUnknown:
Your problem is you talk too much and say absolutely nothing about the topic at hand.
Leave your remote control superstitions and your puerile grasp of science to the side.

What are “ scientific knowledge (mysteries) of things the average person doesn’t know” if not juju?

I'll give you examples later when I'm less busy. They're things smart, science-savvy people already know anyway, but dull people like you see as spiritual or supernatural.

KnownUnknown:
All this one has done is change juju to “scientific knowledge (mysteries) of things the average person doesn’t know”.

He thinks he is different from the ones who believe in the efficacy of but he really is not. He has just abandoned the regular view of superstitions for “scientific” view superstition. He still believes bullshit.

I wonder if traditionalists want to demonstrate the power of “scientific knowledge (mysteries) the below average A001 doesn’t know”

Your problem is that you talk too much when you're supposed to stay quiet, observe things, and learn.

Many things that were regarded as spiritual or supernatural in the olden days are now seen as natural or physical with more scientific understanding of them.

For this reason, research scientists refrain from using the term "spiritual" or "supernatural" to describe seemingly inexplicable phenomena but describe them as "mysterious" instead.

The first attitude of regarding strange occurrences as spiritual encourages fear, superstition, and ignorance.

Anyone behaving like that only makes hasty, uninformed conclusions about things, so they wallow in ignorance.

But the second attitude, involving the use of scientific method, aids curiosity about and understanding of the weird phenomena.

The second attitude is a healthy one that aids research and enlightenment. So, that change of attitude by scientists is highly important.

Let me give you an example: I visited a friend last month, who has two TV sets in his living room with separate decoders.

We observed that sometimes when we pressed the remote of one of decoders to change its channel, the second decoder also tuned to another channel, different from the first.

I was coming across such occurrence for the first time and because my dad is always on my mind daily (he died not long ago), I hastily concluded that somehow his spirit was affecting the functioning of the remote's EM signal.

Later on, I realized the folly in this belief when the occurrence happened again, and I thought about the reason for that.

I realized it's simply interference between both waves (TV/radio waves) in the dishes outside.

This example shows how many things we regard as spiritual or supernatural are just natural occurrences. But because we don't examine our beliefs, we reach hasty conclusions about them in ignorance.

To understand this point better, you can get this American series, "Siren", online if you've not seen it already.

It's about mermaids, but the mysterious creatures were approached in the film from a scientific angle, not some supernatural or spiritual entities meant to be feared as portrayed in Nollywood movies, especially Yoruba films.

What's seen as supernatural or spiritual now will be regarded as natural or common occurrences in the future.

We live in a natural world, and supernatural phenomena don't exist.

kingxsamz:
Sounds like something both of you need to sort in another thread.

The guy has an undiagnosed mental condition. Only a mad man goes about picking e-fights with random people that don't have any issues with him.

He just quoted my moniker out of the blue last month and started talking as if we both had an unfinished discussion.

Since then, he's added my moniker to his growing list of Nairaland members he fights online, who don't fight him.

You might soon join his list of the people he directs his vitriolic comments to, even though you never exchanged any diatribe with him.

That's pure madness. He needs the urgent help of a psychiatrist.

No time to waste reading tripe. The trash duly reported and binned.

kingxsamz:
I just hate this thing they do.
Now that there's a reason for those with supernatural powers to show case themselves, some people are coming out to make excuses on their behalf.
"slap the Oni of Ife". I just face palmed after reading that.

When I saw this thread when you just created it, I told few guys in my vicinity that believe in juju to go and demonstrate their power and get rewarded immensely for it.

But they said the organizers want to kidnap them to know the source of their power. I just laughed.

Despite reassuring them that it's an open competition that will be recorded and documented, they didn't accept to join it.

Crystyano:
But you remain OtemAtum's disciple

Hope you get to cure your foolishness someday. If Otem is the cause of your misfortune, then you're on a long thing.

If you want to be a disciple of someone that doesn't want discipleship or someone you have never seen and doesn't even want you to meet him, then your case don pass critical.

Understand the meaning of words before you use them: no one serves as a disciple of a person they've never met or can never meet.

Grow up!

Lols.

PeaceJoyLove:
I pity naive people. If the power can be activated for monetary gain, all the powerful ritualists and herbalists who lead the ritual rites will be extremely rich.

It is about wisdom vs wealth. You choose wisdom, you can can only know spiritual things and communicate on a higher frequency. That's it. So, you can use the wisdom to make wealth by learning physical and natural laws of wealth too. But having wisdom will put one at advantage. But you see those babalawos, herbalist, and ritualists, they dont know about physical wealth. So, they cannot take the advantage of the wisdom they have. Therefore, their only means to make money is to look for clients desperate to have money. And they give those ones money.

Now listen they will not do the money ritual for themselves cos they know it is a wrong way. That money requires sacrifices and blood to stay. And it's got expiration dates. Why would a wise one do such for himself. So, you see that they cannot really prosper.

Now, look at those in the same circus with the wise ones (worldly wisdom) when they are so educated, they are super rich. They simply use wisdom with university or educational institute knowledge, or vocational training, etc to step up. So, they are always ahead of their competitors cos they always have access to information.

So, saying here someone should take monetary reward to display the source of his or her power makes the fellow daft. I always laugh at the super high level of ignorance of such. It shows they are extremely careless. I just pity them.

Anyway, goodluck to them with their search for whoever will oblige your request.

If they want to know juju works, let them go and slap Oni of Ife. If they return alive, then juju doesnt work.

If something is real, you must be able to demonstrate it clearly for all to see.

If you can't do so, that thing has scam written all over it.

Ooni and other traditionalists don't have juju but some of them have scientific knowledge (mysteries) of things the average person doesn't know.

If any power is not scientific, it's just superstitious.

MaxInDHouse:
That's true but true Christianity has nothing to do with milking the less privileged that's why all those disguised atheists often warn their gullible followers not to listen to us because they know that we are the only Christian group on this planet. We are Jehovah's Witnesses!

You're a joker. You must be the only true Christian alive then because truth and Christianity should never be mentioned in the same sentence.

MaxInDHouse:
You're an atheist for sure but you're not really smart because the smarter atheists are out there looking for ways to extort money from gullible misinformed churchgoers!
Just parade yourself as an atheist before everyone for about two years then tell them Jesus appeared to you in your room, brought onitcha bread and Canadian coffee and you both ate joyfully them no born any of there pastors well to doubt you publicly!
Instantly you too will start becoming famous: the atheist who fine and wine with Jesus and before you know it you're already part of their leaders i don't need to tell you the rest!

Can you see how the Nigerian mentality has made you see deception as ingenuity ("being smart" )?

The average Nigerian citizen is corruption personified but are so religious and pretentious.

So if you don't hide under religion to defraud less intelligent people of their hard-earned money, you're not smart?

Pastors: thieves stealing with the book of lies and deception, the Bible.

MaxInDHouse:
You're surprised, shey?
Well ATHEISM means lack of beleive in God but fools like you only think it's until someone says it with his/her mouth whereas there are many atheists out there who are scared to confess it while the smarter once used the rules of Professor Matthew:

If you can't beat them, lead them!
Whoever is not obeying what the book (Bible) says but yet introducing himself as PASTOR is only a smarter ATHEIST.
There are three types of atheists:
The foolish atheist: this ones are crying inside but following others wasting their time, energy and resources on religion just to belong. Well they foolishly continue following the crowd.
The smart atheist: you and your friends here belongs to this category, they come out boldly to declare what they think about God.
The smarter atheist: this one cunningly join others and finds his way to the top only to start leading the fools and making his cool money from their gullibility.
What the book (Bible) says is:

The foolish one says in his heart: “There is no Jehovah.” Their unrighteous actions are corrupt and detestable; No one is doing good. Psalms 53:1

Note what the book (Bible) says there, the smarter atheists are saying it (in their hearts ) not publicly like you guys. So stop fooling yourselves there are much more atheists in the world than you think!

You've a point. But how sure are you some of these Nl atheists aren't pastors in real life?

Don't be surprised to find a number of clerics (both Muslims and Christians) in Nigeria practicing atheism online.

Religion is just a social construct, designed to milk the poor and the ignorant in society.

https://www.nairaland.com/6770680/buhari-asks-g20-cancel-nigerias

Buhari just set a new world record in foolishness. He's asking G20 countries to cancel all debts Nigeria owes them, yet he's requesting fresh loans worth billions of dollars.

Without paying the existing loans, he's seeking new ones.

In a sane clime, this man can't even be a councilor let alone a president.

The one with a loose knot in the brain doesn't deserve a response.

Only a shallow-minded person insults people that could be of assistance to him later.

budaatum:
Otem writes a lot, so we must understand some would have difficulty reading not to talk of understand.

Its like some read the Bible and become like stupid believing enslaved Adam instead of use her senses Eve.

You're right, ma'am.

Righteousness2:
This is no Coincidence or luck . This is the Finger of GOD! I won't be Suprised if that Home belongs to people who sold out themselves for GOD'S Assignment.

With Everything happening on Earth today. From the Covid Plandemic to the Jab, to the Volcanoes, Earthquakes, Pestilences, Plagues, Etc . If you still cannot see that the End is upon Us, You need Serious Help and Deliverance.

The Wrath of GOD is Seriously testing the Mic on this Generation.
All these are Warning us of what is Coming on this Earth when GOD pours his Wrath on Unrepentant and Rebellious World.

Folks, We are in Seasons where anything can happen! JESUS is Coming! JESUS is Coming! Get Ready

You deserve a lengthy ban for like 600 years for posting your nonsensical religious write-ups on many Nl threads.

Better get a life, brainless sheep!