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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 12:28pm On Jan 25, 2021
airmark:
With everyone fit, i watch with a relaxed mind like Lampard cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHRnvjCkTsw
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 12:25pm On Jan 25, 2021
hoopLA:
It's not that clear-cut my man.

It could also be that its harder to win a title if you win by that point tally.

I'm actually thinking a better guage is the points difference.
It's a factor. It implies the bar was pretty low to clear. If 79 points is good enough to win you the league then you have plenty wiggle room as against a league where one of those so called sides without European distractions were able to score 85 points or thereabouts
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:16pm On Jan 25, 2021
birdman:
Nah this is too harsh. Rodgers is brilliant, and yes, there is a strong green bay clique in the nfl that tends to overrate him. But there is nothing midget about him. He has been a top 3 qb in this league forever.
Ohh he's a great player but the mentality is what's missing and it's why I get irritated when I see him in the GOAT conversation. He's a mental midget I reiterate again.

It's not how you lose it's the backlash and back talk after each loss. Barring one SB run he's always found a way to lose when it mattered most.

The ship of Rodgers being mentioned in the same breath as Brady has passed. The only kid I'm seeing right now who has in my eyes already surpassed Rodgers is Patrick Mahomes. That boy has it and is a mentality giant
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:08am On Jan 25, 2021
chic2pimp:
Bruh I could not believe my eyes. What He was thinking at that very moment I'd like to know. I fully expecting Him to run that in for a touchdown but alas no. It's a real shame as this dude deserves more than the one SB ring He currently has.
When I heard Aaron Rodgers lament about how he needed to get home field advantage and openly said that's one of their surest path to the Superbowl that's when I knew he was not ready. For all his skills what sets him behind Brady and I daresay Mahomes is he's a bit of a mental midget.

He always has an excuse and so does his fanboys.

In 5 Championship games Aaron Fraudgers is now 1-4 with 7 TDs and 7 INTs
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 1:56am On Jan 25, 2021
On a serious note though I don't see Brady beating this Kansas City buzzsaw. This team might fuq around and 3peat
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 1:54am On Jan 25, 2021
chic2pimp:
grin grin grin grin grin
Make I hear pim about Aaron Fraudgers on this thread again

The fraud in his post game conference is already throwing his coach under the bus. You're are Aaron Fraudgers with a second year coach with the NFC title on the line. Even small boy Lamar Jackson would flip Harbaugh the bird if he tried to take the ball out of his hands on 4th down. That's even ignoring the fact that he had open field on the preceding play

Is he too chickenshit to challenge the play and call his own? a 13-14 year vet??
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 1:50am On Jan 25, 2021
Leyqute:
You’ll agree though, that progress in the UCL during a title run in means more matches and more tired legs, right?

If you’re still in the UCL quarter finals by March and other title contenders aren’t, there’s a chance that they’ll prepare better for their EPL games than you will.
If there is any team that was equipped to handle such runs it was United due to their squad depth.

Not having a run in doesn't necessarily mean you have an advantage. In fact I can argue that none of the other teams chasing United were good enough to take advantage of their schedule. When you can win the league with a paltry 79 points then we have to ask how good were the title contenders??

Leyqute:
The team that plays Juventus on Wednesday night, Everton the Saturday and then travels to Turin for the return leg next Tuesday will be more tired mentally and physically than a team that plays just Everton on the Saturday. It’s more likely that the title contender with a more rigorous fixture schedule will drop points than the one who plays one game per week. Ask Leicester.

That’s why the United team that won the treble in 99 are rated highly.
So how come the sides with no fixtures were not able to gather enough points?

The year City won the league Liverpool were the only team that made any impact in Europe so every other team was on equal footing.

With United I would have agreed with you if the contenders finished with a lot of points but 78?? Come on man. The bar of competition was pretty low
SportsRe: Mixed Martial Arts Fan Thread: UFC, Bellator Etc by A40(m): 1:12am On Jan 25, 2021
wman:
I swear!

The guy has that media charisma and trash talking. He's not as good as before.
I don't even blame him. Money will do that to you man. But I've always considered him a tad overrated. He has KO power but no cardio and no grappling defense or toughness.
SportsRe: Mixed Martial Arts Fan Thread: UFC, Bellator Etc by A40(m): 1:10am On Jan 25, 2021
isan:
He is not overrated he is actually a good fighter but right i don't think he cares anymore
He is overrated. For a fighter with such huge and visible flaws in his game he's been rated rather highly. You can be a good fighter and still be overrated.

This is a guy who has been double champ quite alright but never defended either belt, he's now been finished in 3 of his last 6 fights, the ones he won was a decision and another against a notorious (no pun intended) can and gatekeeper in Cowboy Cerrone

He should just stick to his freak show fights moving forward, get good money to get beaten to a pulp by Pacman. His days of being among the elite are done
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:53am On Jan 25, 2021
How many NFC title games has Aaron Fraudgers lost?

SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:52am On Jan 25, 2021
I don showwwwwwww

Whether you like am whether you no like am. Timaya don showwwwwwww

Where is that Aaron Fraudgers disciple? The placebo, the imposter wearing the real GOAT's number like the other imposter in LA.

Come and salaye why your 1/5 NFC title game Fraudgers choked again to arugbo ojo Tom Brady.

What's his excuse this time? No home advantage? The tundra was not cold enough? The defense didn't get enough interceptions??
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 10:52pm On Jan 24, 2021
I just dey observe. No comments................ Yet
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 4:41pm On Jan 24, 2021
airmark:
Maybe a Man city fan that started watching football post-2000 or one that knows nothing about football.

grin grin grin

Try it let's see. Is it a Chelsea team that won the Uefa cup few months to the start of the season and won the Uefa super cup too, beating Real Madrid in the final? Ogbeni, i dey wait for your proofs o.
Lmaoooo they won a B rate Cup winners Cup. the previous season and not 98/99. Nice try though but I don't understand what 97/98 achievements have to do with 98/99

airmark:
Best Epl team ever is what we are talking about here. The quality must reflect in UCL of that same season unless beaten by a bigger club. Liverpool, a team in Epl destroyed that same Man city home and away in the quarters. That's enough to tell you that 100pts was a ruse.
Best EPL team ever domestically. They have all the records to prove it.

There is nothing that concerns UCL with EPL competition. They don't face the same teams so e no follow.

Was Liverpool the best team in England since they beat Man City in Europe? Answers on a post card
SportsRe: Mixed Martial Arts Fan Thread: UFC, Bellator Etc by A40(m): 3:50pm On Jan 24, 2021
The Conor McGregor hype train derailed again. If this guy is not the most over hyped and overrated fighter in combat history I don't know who is
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 3:45pm On Jan 24, 2021
airmark:
We are talking about quality of teams in contention and Man city amassed those points because other big teams were on a decline. In fact, Man city were exposed by Liverpool in UCL, they got sodomised home and away.

The United team of '99 and Chelsea of 2004/2005 were not their mates in quality. Only Debruyne could make that United team of 99, if i want to be tolerant.
That is subjective. A City fan will never agree with you and so would many neutrals as well that only De Bruyne would make their respective teams. Not that it matters anyway. What is not subjective is the results. Same way you can prove big teams were in decline is the same way I can prove that the teams that were competing with United and Arsenal were utter rubbish respectively in those years you want to reference.

I have told you not to bring CL conversation into the banter. How you fare in the league has absolutely feckall to do with the CL. In fact it defeats your argument if this same team won absolutely nothing in England while City won 5 of the 6 trophies available
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 12:13pm On Jan 24, 2021
airmark:
I had trashed them in my replies to Dayo. Find another team,. to call the best Epl team ever.
Why are they not the best? They scored the most points, won the league by widest margin, had the most wins, won the domestic treble so why are they not the best EPL side? Note I'm limiting it purely based on domestic competition before you come and obfuscate the matter with CL which is beyond the scope of discourse. Show me any other team that has matched their domestic achievements
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 11:40am On Jan 24, 2021
BikeMan:
Sucks that they still gave him the same trophy as Leicester.
Why? They won the league with double digits
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 11:39am On Jan 24, 2021
airmark:
Which side is this?
The side that scored the most points and won a domestic treble
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 11:34am On Jan 24, 2021
olabode89:
@A40

You see wetin dem do Conor McGregor grin ?
Lool I wasn't remotely surprised. Poirier made me some cool cash because I couldn't understand for the life of me how he was a 3.5 odds underdog. That was free money

Crazy to me that most people swallowed the McGregor hype hook line and sinker. Poirier is such a different fighter from the first fight it's not even funny. Make McGregor go WWE, he's not beating any top guy in his division anymore
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 11:38pm On Jan 23, 2021
popizaino:
So man city with 100points is the best all team ever ?
As far as EPL is concerned that City team was the best ever. The point total don't lie
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 4:17pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:
Okay fine! Enrique is better than Simeon, Allegri and Arsene Wenger combined. smiley
All this gymnastics just to compare Klopp to apprentices.

Enrique has played 3 CL Finals and won a league title outside Spain?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 3:55pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:
He faced Klopp in Europe and embarrassed him with a comeback to win Europa. cheesy

A manager winning UCL isn't fully a yardstick to measure greatness.

Anybody can win it, Di Matteo did, he still no get level reach Simeon that hasn't won it.
Europa League is a Mickey mouse tournament. I'm sure your team is not competing to play in Europa League

A manager winning a UCL and winning league titles in two competitive leagues is a legitimate yardstick to measure greatness

Di Matteo literally was in charge for 6 matches. He was a caretaker. You must be Papi Luwe in disguise to compare
SportsRe: Mixed Martial Arts Fan Thread: UFC, Bellator Etc by A40(m): 3:50pm On Jan 23, 2021
First Major UFC event this year.

McGregor vs Poirier I'm particularly intrigued by the fact that a lot of people have Poirier as such a huge underdog. I struggle to believe Conor who has fought just twice in the Octagon in almost 4 years is such a huge favorite

Kamaru vs Burns finally happening February, Adesanya vs Blachowicz in March

And for me the biggest match Stipe vs Ngannou 2
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 3:45pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:
So it's justified to say Di Matteo is better than Emery, Allegri, Simeon, Wenger and Conte combined? Because of UCL?


Make una dey calm down with UCL hype abeg. Chelsea won it while siting on 6th position in EPl. Europa is even more stressful and hard too, if it was easy, Klop would have won it when he went there.
Lol. So you're equating Matteo to Klopp.

This guy is a clown grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 3:40pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:
My point is that those managers I listed got more achievements than Klopp.

How they got it or how much they spent in getting them isn't actually my concern.

Fact has it that Klop has achieved lesser compared to them.
Sorry you are just yarnin Okoto dust at this point.

You even mentioned Ligue 1 where PSG spends 5x it's competition. What did he achieve in Europe? When he faced his mates he oversaw the greatest chokejob in CL history while Klopp oversaw the greatest comeback in CL history

You expect Klopp to dominate Europe with Dortmund who had no money? Fall back son
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:35pm On Jan 23, 2021
Android17:
They will not always be this bad. New teams will look disjointed initially. GSW lost their first game with KD by 30 to SAS. The issue with this Nets team is, they have zero depth and the starters are handicapped defensively. I know they will be this offensive juggernaut but dang, so far, I am not convinced they can unseat LAL & LAC in a 7 game series.
The irony is even with the guys they traded before they landed Harden they were still a .500 team so while the complaints of depth are valid I am seeing a team with no real offensive or defensive identity.

Everybody is just standing around on defense and on offense they are not even running any real sets, just relying on the brilliance of their Big players entirely
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 3:23pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:
I now get your point. But then, achievements are the major things that speaks for managers to be considered as legends.

Klopp is still coming up in that aspect, A manger with 4 major trophies in 20 years neva reach.

Make we know the levels we place these managers abeg.

In 2 years time, he'll be considered as a small boy to Flick too.
When you give Klopp teams he can spend £150m per annum without having to sell anybody else then let me know

Since Klopp came to England he has the lowest net spend among all the top teams. He has always taken over moribund teams with no money to spend living on past glories

Learn to argue with context
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 3:12pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:
Lampard has a better head to head result against Mou, is it safe to say he's better?
Does he have a better H2H record than Mourinho and Wenger as well over several matches with trophies to back it up, abi wetin be this weak question?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 2:50pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:
Klop has 4 major trophies in 20 years of coaching.

Emery has 4 majors trophies, he even disgraced Klopp in 2016 to win Europa.

Allegri is by far better than Klopp in all ramifications. Na English press dey deceive una.

Klop is still far behind compared to what senior managers have achieved. He never reach.

Someone that even got relegated in Germany.
Major trophies pass major trophies.

Any intelligent analyst will always apply context to their argument. A manager good enough to have a better head to head vs Pep and Mourinho over a large sample size would perform at same level if not better than them armed with the same quality of players over the course of his career

Klopp has more CLs and CL Final appearances than Allegri

I will not even dignify the Emery banter with a response.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 2:37pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:
Klopp is a small boy compared to Emery and Allegri.

20 years of coaching with less than 5 major trophies is a big shame.
All I see is a bunch of sankwa trophies. Juventus will trade 15 Scudettos just to lift another CL title

Klopp competed with Bayern Munich and won two titles under its watch till it could compete no more after losing his best legs

Came to England and competed and eventually defeated the best EPL side ever.

I repeat no knowledgeable analyst will compare apprentices like Allegri never mind Good Ebening to Jurgen Klopp
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 2:34pm On Jan 23, 2021
CapitalCee:
So Di matteo is better than Allegri and Conte?
Are you comparing Klopp to Di Matteo abi which kin dead analogy be this
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by A40(m): 2:29pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:
Winning record that can't give you trophies enough to compete when legendary managers is a useless record.

Two decades of coaching with less than 5 major trophies is a disgrace.

Emery, Zidane, Simieon, Allegri, Conte, Heynckes and Ancelloti are better than Klopp.

I don't want to disrespect Mou and Pep by adding their name in that list.
Klopp has shown what he can do with a quality squad. League titles in two leagues, 1 CL win, 3 CL Finals appearances, one Europa League Final.

Most of the people you listed there can't match that. Really you don't know what you're talking about

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