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YOU NIGERIANS ARE BUSY BLAMING KOREANS, HOW MANY VEHICLES HAVE YOU PRODUCED AS A COUNTRY?
AND YOU ARE BUSY RAISING TANTRUMS. YOUR GRADUATE ENGINEERS CANNOT EVEN DESIGN A CIRCUIT AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AIRBAGS. DO YOU KNOW THE MECHANISM BEHIND DESIGNING A VEHICLE. I THINK YOU NIGERIANS NEED TO BE COLONIZED THE SECOND TIME. THIS TIME BY THE KOREANS. IT IS CLEAR YOU CANNOT SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS YOURSELVES. TAKE FOR INSTANCE, POWER GENERATION, REAL ESTATE, RESTAURANTS. VERY SOON YOU WILL COMPLETELY BE TURNED INTO SLAVES. VERY SOON!

what a replica of idiocy!!!

Camac started as an agricultural commodities business trading barley, tobacco etc.
Dr Kase Lawal was the one focused it on energy exploration. They also have an exploration presence in Africa, especially West Africa including both Nigeria and Ghana. It was the first independent company to make a major offshore discovery in offshore Africa and become a licenced operator. Its is also the first African energy firm to be listed on NYSE. Lawal is not a new comer, he comes with over 25 years of experience.

I know Kase's story please. It cannot be the case since he bought a controlling stake (62%) in Pacific Asia Petroleum  which was already listed. If you had money like Kase Lawal, you could buy a controlling stake in any company. But IPO in London and NYC is for big players, because u would have to find investment bankers and underwriters to form a syndicate. Mr Lawal did not go through this process. Camac is not an African-operated company, so stop this comparison, which is like saying that Ebay is an Iranian  company because it was founded by someone who is from Iran. Would you not call this an absurd comparison? Mr Lawal is US based and so is his company- Camac.


It may be tough for an African company to be listed, thats probably why they brought in Mr Venkat etc. There was also a European lady who is one of their directors which was involved getting the listing.

Are u serious?  This is a fallacy because Mr Kenkat joined the company in 2000 , while it went public in 1996 in NYC and London. Got it? I know that some Europeans work for Dangote PLC, have u ever wondered if it would have been able  to raise close $500 million  from IPO in NYC and London 14 yrs ago or even today? Zilch



I'm afraid your quest to get me to believe that Nigerians or Nigerian business in general are somehow inferior to Ghanaians by comparing a Ghanaian success directly with a  Nigerian failure is flawed from the start.

Just to remind you that most times , Nigerians always exaggerate their importance and achievements. What a Ghanaian company did in 1996 is still a dream for most  of these  "mega banks", so it tells you that most of these Naija  mega banks cannot operate  effectively in an environment where there is strict application of financial laws


We should actually rise above that, dont you think?

Yes, our deranged thinking of always being better and richer than anyone, eve though we are clearly not.

@londoner
Kase Lawal' Camac did not get built in Africa, AngloGold Ashanti is based in Africa. One thing is clear it's easier to buy a controlling stake in a company that it already listed than getting  a  new company listed. Dangote for instance, can buy a controlling stake in a company which is already listed, but having Dangote Plc listed on NYSE is a lot harder. My point is that it's tough for American company to be listed on NYSE let alone an African company.
I dont know what you meant that a Ghanaian should continue heading the company. He did his tenure and it was under his tenure that the company went public on NYSE. What's not  a legacy in this feat?  I was pointing to the fact  their business practices allowed them to be listed on NYSE while a Naija "mega bank"  with a shop in the U.S could not operate  without flouting the laws.

I dont know how you would call a company that raised close to half a billion USD dollars from its IPOs in London and New York in 1996 when Nigeria was a pariah state a bluff. largest gold mining floatation. How many Nigerian companies as of today are capable of raising $500 million from London and New York markets from their IPOs?. Very many of them will not even pass their regulatory requirements.

Anglo gold Ashanti. I wonder why Ashanti is still attached to their name? By the way, I was talking about Sam Jonah's time.  I dont know why u think that Jonah's legacy died when he stepped down. The  company is still trading on NYSE with the same ticker symbol with which it was originally listed.
About UBA in US. They could not operate a kiosk without violating US laws  - it tells you much about our management style or lack thereof, while Anglogold Ashanti is trading on NYSE

Venkat was the finance director of Ashanti Goldfields Company Limited from 2000 until the merger with AngloGold in 2004. Prior to joining Ashanti, Venkat was a director in the Reorganisation Services Division of Deloitte & Touche in London. He was appointed to the board in August 2005.

Are u still saying that Ashanti never merged with AngloGod?

Alright our companies are moving to your country RIGHT! if you guys know its not for your own advantage why do you accept them or license them everthing is still in Ghana's benefit because we get to offer more employment to your citizens! now tell me what other help could be better than that i know we have faults in our country! WHICH YOU PEOPLE SHOULD BE HAPPY WE HAVE THOSE PROBS BECAUSE THE PROBS IS BENEFICIAL TO YOU GUYS A LOT LIKE IT OR NOT!

NAIJA TILL PYNESS!
pointers to the fact that you are bereft of economic ideas . you are happy that companies that provide employment to Nigerians are moving to Ghana all in the name of proving Naija's power. Sounds like you are typing from Aso Rock? Anyway, a good country does not want to lose jobs let alone to smaller neighbours.

Londoner @ ANGLOashanti gold is a marriage between a Ghanaian company and South African company. Sam Jonah- from Ghana headed the company before he retired. At under his leadership that the company was listed on NYSE- First African company to attain such a feat. We really dont have to bash anything from Ghana. It's like saying that SabMiller PLC is not a South African company simply because it moved its global operations to London.
@Rug,
facts dont lie. The fact some Nigerians could afford to send their kids to school in Ghana does not mean that Naija is at par with Ghana, it means that Ghana has a comparative advantage over Nigeria on educational infrastructure and delivery. same thing on power and energy, security. Multi-nationals like Michelin, Unilever,and Dunlop moved operation to Ghana, Nestle moved its research unit to Ghana.

Why are you calling me a monster? Do you know me? What does Atheist money mean? Why the labels and tags. Men Fantasia i will never forgive you for this. Just last night we were laughing so hard on the phone planning our future and not knowing you were trying to set be ablaze in public with people castigating for no reason. All of a sudden am a Monster to you by your friends. Gosh i am totally distraught at work now. I hope i dont get laid off or get a query

Ma fren, I did not call you a monster. I was saying that your GF would be left to her own devices to really taste misery , since she did not want to make up her mind in spite of tasting two life's oppositions ie love and abandonment. Check out all my posts, I have spoken glowingly of you even before you came online. So take a deep breath, sit back and re-read some of the posts and you will see that not everyone is against you. I dont believe that folks should "be judged by their religious affiliations, but on the content of their character".
Also remember that this is a faceless forum, not so much damage has been done. This is a critical decision time " the ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in times of comfort, but where he stands in times of adversity."

The way folks dont get it. You accepted an atheist money to fund your family and education, now he's a monster even though you had dated a pastor who nearly crashed your life. tasting both lives has done it for you. dumping and leaving you in penury might do it.

Mr Rug, I see that there is no point arguing with you  cos you are close minded to facts and love propaganda. wikipedia is not a reliablle source. it seems that you have no idea what HDI really means.   Sam Jonah from Ghana was the first CEO of an African company (Asanti Gold)  to be listed on NYSE while  UBA was slapped with $15 million fines for breaking the laws of U.S just for opening a branch location in the U.S.  Some of your listed points are factored into a country's GDP and a Zenith Bank branch in Accra does not count toward Nigeria's GDP, but Ghana's
Go back to school and re-learn  some things, but then you sound like you are not amenable to teaching. Good luck.

Naija mentality always linking religiosity with impeccable character. Nigeria is a control of experiment of how religion helps in making a country great.  The result is that  Nigeria is an evil country, so folks who are religious should not say that they are more holier than non-religious folks. Soyinka VS Obasanjo?

It's amazing to me how the same folks who talk passionately about sacred nature of life (abortion talks) would condone child molestation. This pope has so much baggage and poor PR. from his Nazi association to his Islamic and anti-semitic utterances, I wish they had picked another person -maybe Cardinal Arinze, not going to happen with his skin colour. This pope is a bad crisis manager who seems to be losing support among his followers.

@Rug
YOU ARE MORE DUMB! FOR THAT PLEASEEEE TELL ME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS MADE IN GHANA THAT WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE HERE?? YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID THEIRS IS FASTER! THOUGH FASTER THEY ARE STILL BEHIND!

So far, you have exhibited some dumbness that has no benchmark, same thing cannot be said of HDI. You and ur fellow ultra nationalists started off by quoting country's GDP, I quoted Equatorial Guinea that has higher National GDP than UK, Denmark, etc. You and fellow propagandists delved into skyline. Your realm of argument does not even fall within normative economics let alone positive econmics. I compared Sao Paulo in Brazil with a city in New York . The crux of the matter is that your and your fellow hallucinators have refused to debate facts but emotions and cheap blackmail. Put your facts out on how u would want development in Nigeria to be measured with that of Ghana. Nigerians live 15yrs shorter than Ghanaians, would you call that development?

Dont personalize the whole stuff. It's much more than Christianity or and their pastors. This guy simply doesnt believe in any form of the supernatural be it from Islam,Buddhist,Eck, etc. Even those who belong to the Church Of Satan believe in a god. The whole issue is about being Godless cuz a Godless person is his own GOD. dt is d point y'all fail to understand. And those who take this path r the most dangerous beings alive on planet earth.


Argue facts not emotions.  The premise of this post is that her BF is a non-follower of any religious teachings and she is a Christian. Do you think that her family would have accepted  him if he were a Muslim or Buddhist? Her family's objection stems from his non-Christian faith. Any evidence to show that people who follow  "this path are the most dangerous beings alive". We have seen religiousity in Nigeria and where it has led us. Most folks in Sweden about 80%- do not believe in anything, yet they live longer and better than power drunk Nigerians who live in Aso Rock.  Most Scandavian countries have high percentage of atheists, yet  they contribute a lot of their resources to war,famine, natural disasters in developing countries.


P.S B4 U RUN your BIG MOUTH, A CHRISTIAN IS NOT JUST A CHURCH GOER, NOR IS HE JUST A BORN AGAIN. HE IS SOMEONE WHO LIVES THE LIFE.U can tell by just looking at the way he lives.


This means there are very few Christians- in case you wanted to teach me, the word "Christian" was coined in Antioch, Syria after Christ had died - meaning Christ-like and very few Christians in Naija will pass this test including you. Let's continue with this question if you have had no pre-marital intimacy or cursed in your life?

Dream u say?. . . .are u retarded or something, well this is Lagos Nigeria in 2010,
This is Just one Nigerian city, dont make me bring out the big bad Abuja, but can u show me any city in Ghana with a better skyline?
and Lagos Skyline is consistently rated as top 3 in Africa, if u dont know, and will only get better from here

U are the one sounding retarded here. Sao Paulo, Brazil has a better skyline than most cities in UK and US. Brookville, New York with no skyline is the richest town in the US with a per capita income of $84,375, while Sao Paul, Brazil has a per capita income of $14,263. Also New York City is the sky line capital of the US, but has a median income of $22,402 while Alexdria. Va has per capita income of $37,000, even though it has few skyscrapers.
Ghana beats Nigeria in HDI ranking. It's like saying that someone who lives in the tallest building in Lagos is more affluent than someone who lives in IBB's mansion or Mai Deribe's house. Get over this hysteria of Naija being the best in Africa, it is not and it is NOT going to be in the near future. Wait till IBB becomes president in 2011.

It's a shear fallacy for Christians to assert equivocally that being a christian is a requisite criterion for being a good husband. As matter of fact, Christians have more divorce rate in the west than non Xtians. In Naija context,  less than half of Nigeria population are people of no Xtian faith, do you mean to tell me that their family institution is in shambles?   What if this guy had lied and pretended  about his faith. I know some women who became" born again'' in order to sleep with a woman not to talk of marriage.
After all said and done, in the midst of an argument, if you are still unmarried, someone in your family might tell you one day to go find your husband. Also your pastor- maybe a different one from this very one  who thinks that ur BF is evil, will be asking you to pray and tithe more for miracles to happen ie finding a husband, it maybe too late.
As per this guy getting upset about your pastor,  a lot of folks are  in that league too, cos sometimes Xtians talk and depict pastor as demigods. You have to make that distinction between pastor and God. Marriage is not rosy as we are made to believe, you should be ready to ask yourself are you willing to live in a household where divergence of religious opinions is tolerated? This is the way to go.
Run a list of what you want right now, and see in what  order does marrying a "Xtian" even if he's a monster outweigh marrying a loving and caring man who does not let religion becloud his sense of humanity. Remember it's ur husband at the end of the day. Your parents will be the first to discourage you from leaving your marriage if you married to make them feel happy, by then you will be sleeping on your own vomit.

Nairaland is fake forum please Nigerians please try and visit Skyscraper city where you will see a lot of Nigerians helping matter to change the bad Impression outsider feel about Nigeria. Thanks.
Cos it's easier to dream and imagine of Niaja with beautiful skycrapers than to build one. Time for dreaming is over. Put your shovel where your imaginations and dreams are .

this is economics gone awry. Equitorial Guinea has a higher GDP than UK, France and Germany, but also with many people living with less than 2 dollars a day. Does this mean that Equitorial Guinea is better than Germany. Go figure since it's a rocket science.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html
30 Equatorial Guinea $ 36,600 2009 est. 

31 Denmark $ 36,000 2009 est. 

32 Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas) $ 35,400 2002 est. 

33 Greenland $ 35,400 2007 est. 

34 United Kingdom $ 35,200 2009 est. 

35 Isle of Man $ 35,000 2005 est. 

36 Finland $ 34,900 2009 est. 

37 Germany $ 34,100 2009 est. 

38 Spain $ 33,700 2009 est. 

39 Macau $ 33,000 2009 

40 France $ 32,800 2009 est. 

41 European Union $ 32,600 2009 est. 

42 Japan

How many times  was Oyedepo invited to the Aso Rock to pray for Yar'dua when he was healthy? Or what was his relationship with Yar'dua prior to his sickness? Why didn't Oyedepo extract an agreement from those who organised the meeting or prayer that it must be strictly private and that it must be by his own terms not theirs. The cabals made it public that Xtian leaders visited including Oyedepo to lend credence to the fact Yar'dua is still alive? Naija  is a country where accountability is abhorred, so Oyedepo does not have to give account of his visit , never mind that he went under PFN. Carry go , preach and minister to the highest bidder. going! going!! going!!! GONE

Our Paul the "Saul" did more than those of you criticizing the man of God but later miraculous got saved.!! By research, most of the people either complaining or criticizing men of God are either spritually short-sighted believers or unsaved people, examine your self to know where you belong while we are all believing God for your salvation

I said this before. This is blind followership. PFN today would not have been in existence without Reformation by Martin Luther (nor Jr.) who confronted the pope.This singular act brought about PFN. Paul would have been killed by Sanhedrin Coucil he had not spoken about his convictions to spread the gospel. It was Gamaliel, even though he was not a Christian saved Paul nay Christianity, but Naija Christians today detest any form of critical thinking let alone criticism.

4  out of 10  blackberry users would dump their phones  for an Iphone.
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=527369

In US if you are not making over $60,000 you are still in the working class
over 99.99% of cab drivers in everywhere else other than newyork fall into this class
New yorkers make more but cost of living reduce that benefit for them.
You guys may want to get a proper definition of rich.
do you know that a $100,000 salary in US is not considered rich

poverty threshold in the US is less than $20K for a family of 4. % of folks making $100K and above less than 10%
so a lot of folks do not make that much money. It's like saying that ever1 lives in Beverly Hills


Are you trying to tell me he paid cash for the trucks from his cab driving? common on!. Anyone can get trailers with good credit. I know a nigerian who has 3 trucks here and uses it for his trucking biz here. He is yet to finish his payment on the trucks
U can get trailers with good credit, but you do not own them. Tittles get kept in the bank's vaults untill they are fully paid. So u cannot ship them overseas without title. I think this false sense ownership thru credit has been accepted, however, u dont own it till it's paid for still applies.

U ask the question and u have already answered it. U are missing the point, its free for all why should she care that he might be a maga to another woman

Nigeria has picked a fight it can never win. Switzerland has soft-pedalled with Libya, because Ghadaffi threatened to cut oil supplies and withdraw all their assets from Swiss banks. Nigeria on the other hand , is putting the lives of  thousands of Nigerians in Libya at risk. You cannot challenge  a devil and ask him to do his worst cos he already lives and breathes evil.

Is Obama anti-Semitic? Netanyahu brother-in-law causes ruckus.
By Joshua Mitnick Joshua Mitnick
Wed Mar 17, 12:34 pm ET

Tel Aviv – At the height of the worst Israel-US crisis in decades, Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was forced to distance himself Wednesday from the views of his brother-in-law, who called President Obama "anti-Semitic" over the airwaves this morning.

In an interview with Israel Army Radio on Wednesday, Hagai Ben Artzi, the brother of Netanyahu's wife Sara, reportedly said: "it needs to be said clearly and simply: There is an anti-Semitic president in the US. It's not that Obama doesn't sympathize with [Mr. Netanyahu]. He doesn't sympathize with the people of Israel."

Netanyahu's office swifty published a condemnation: "I entirely reject the remarks of Hagai Ben Artzi."

IN PICTURES: Israeli settlements

Family ties?Mr. Ben Artzi, who has a history of controversial remarks, is family in more than one way.

The hardliner – who's held positions as a bible lecturer at a religious college in Jerusalem, and in the Education Ministry, and has a doctorate in Israel thought and philosophy from Hebrew University in Jerusalem – also represents the family of hawkish nationalists who support Netanyahu and for whom any movement on the peace process is going to stir tension.

The Israeli daily Haaretz reported that Knesset Member Michael Ben Ari of the far-right National Union party recently hung a poster with a picture in which Obama looks like he is bowing to a Gulf prince, underneath a headline, "Caution! [Palestine Liberation Organization] Agent in the White House!''

Suspicion of ObamaSo how widespread are those views of Obama in Israel?

The opinions recall suspicions voiced about Obama in Israel during his run for the presidency that were based on his Muslim relatives and a former pastor whose sermons occasionally included remarks considered anti-Semitic.

Mitchell Barak, a pollster who used to work with Netanyahu, says there is widespread alienation among Israelis regarding Obama, whom many consider the US president most unsympathetic to Israel for decades.

That said, both Ben Artzi and Ben Ari represent fringe opinions, says Mr. Barak.

"The problem with the extremist right groups," he says, "is that they can't recognize anyone that doesn't shares the opinions of their own group.''

IN PICTURES: Israeli settlements
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20100317/wl_csm/288215/print

Ayemokhia :i think u r a fool 4 posting that, some tym i ask my self if this forum is really owned by a nigerian,cause u hardly hear any good news
An insular thug who thinks that the world runs from Ajegunle to Epe. The news was on yahoo!

U are missing my point here. Im saying that you should ask yourself that before even commiting into a relationship and wasting peoples time. Like now that Im 26 years old. I should search myself. If I dont want to have a serious relationship and dont want to get married, I should let my bf know earlier that I dont intend to have a serious relationship. I mean why keep quiet and get your partner guesing like a mumu?

If he says, how do you know if he wants a short free ride or marriage? saying yes doesnt mean that he will stick by his word?

blame MAN U for elevating that guy to a level he will never attain in his career. I bet U that MAN U guys are happy they lost him to Chelsea cos he was not worth all the fights

True that. Ogbuji or whatever actually inflated his budget to accommodate the Senators' kickback.

There's an element of truth in these allegations. Maybe the Senators have become bolder in this dispensation. I remember Babalola Borishade was asked to bring N250 Million for confirmation, back in those days.

El Rufai alleged that  Senator Jonathan Zwingina had demanded for N54 million bribe before he could be confirmed. So N16 million is 70% less of N54 milion, it seems that recession is bitting hard on thiefnators.
Glen Hoddle alleged  that he was asked to pay $350,000  about N54 million by NFF officials as a kickback if he got selected as a head coach.So it's more lucrative to work in NFF than NASS. Go figure

didnt El Rufai name some Senators who had asked him to pay money before confirmation? Former minister of education Mr Ogbuji was jailed because legistaltors were demanding bribe b4 money could be approved for his ministry.

[b]Go and establish a church then discourage offerings and '5-star' treatment from your members ahn! Dont stay here flaunting your myopic credentials of spiritual truths.

And please tell us how we are going to save others without spending money for the gospel; i think this is selfishness gone on rampage.
Your point about spending flamboyantly for the gospel is illogical because without spending for the gospel people aint gonna be saved. The ancient missionaries travelled far and wide to preach the gospel; were they transported by the Holy Ghost or the brethren pulled resources together to enable these missionaries embark on their journeys

Giving and spending for the Gospel is one of the ways you demonstrate your love for GOD/CHRIST as a Christian, but not ALL of the way; And one is not under any obligation to give. You reap what you sow brother. So glue you money in your pocket but never discourage others from giving for the Gospel because that giving might just be the openning someone. SHALOM!!!!![/b]
Keep deceiving yourself. The widow who gave her smallest part was recognized because it came from her heart , but in Naija style, the highest donour is the highest winner of God's affection. God cannot and never be bought. The same way Jesus kicked folks out of the temple because of their pursuit of money is the same way your folks are acting. They over-emphasize money over salvation. Did you really think that if God were to choose between u  as the highest donor of ur church and Kanu Nwankwo who used his wealth to benefit others, that you will be chosen? To work is to pay. Faith without good work is in vain. It is illusory to think that forming a piggy bank for pastors and their wives in order to support that lavish lifestyle would lead us to salvation. fafa foul.

yeah he deserved it!! And u wanna know wat? I've waited 36yrs to just lose it and finally gbam!.
U sure u no sentence the guy to torture room with hard labour?

Chairman of "frowning at pastors' stupendous lifestyle," what have you done so far for the spread of the gospel? Is this the great commission you were given by Christ to go ye therefore and preach the Gospel?

I have said it before and I will say it again whether this Pastors coerce people to give or not, the fact is that the Gospel is preached!!
It's delusion of the highest order to think  that asking members to pay a for 5-star treatment of  Anita's visit is the way to salvation. In your post, you seem to think that thru flamboyant speding you are going to be saved. "Christ to go ye therefore and preach spend for the Gospel. U cannot buy your way out of salvation.