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@bolaoni,

As far me, the price of an inverter is not the issue but the realibility and the warranty that comes with it.

I have seen people spend over N300,000.00 for a 5kva inverter that did not last 3 months and when I ask them why they did not return the unit they say the seller won't accept it.

So, why would I buy an item I cannot get meaningful warranty on just in case something goes wrong? Do not forget that this unit works everyday.

My advice is this, get inverters from people that build them whether locally or from outside the country.

A dealer or distributor without the capacity to offer or even enforce a warranty is just another businessman who will apologise when things go bad but for repairs or replacements, sorry.

You can send an email to nnajiafam@yahoo.com.

@Texazzpete,

Very good piece.

But in reality all the oil companies in Nigeria can stop the gas flaring and take care of the Associated Gas.

OSO/NGL Gas recovery project (Then Mobil) in Bonny Island embarked on such waste to wealth project by building a technically advanced 50,000 barrel per day natural gas liquids fractionation, storage and loading facility.

Atleast we really do not have problems with methane or even ethane since no one is really siting gas wells yet.

Here propane and butane are extracted and sold while the pentane plus is stored and I believe serves as one of the main fuel for the turbines in that plant.



It all depends on enforcing policies already put in place to make these things work.

software:
Yeah thats the truth, Its our coutries money they are all spending, Infact God will Judge this people

If I may ask, where is the opposition parties getting the money they have been spending? From their salaries or pensions?

penyng:
Na yaoooooooo

Obasanjo and PDP plan don work
i know that PDP will do something furny
to elongate obansanjo stay in office
that is why their senators in senate rufused the
amendment of the section of the constitution
that covered extension of april polls.

I know that their hand might be involved.
u know Africa remote.

@noblezone,

Take am easy now. My post was based on the one I have just quoted above, not yours.

Enjoy.

Seun:
If they are paying tax on that gas, they won't be willing to just burn it off. They will exploit it properly.

All these while the oil companies pay penalties for every single cubic feet of gas flared, the problem is that the penalty is not high enough for the companies to willingly look for ways to take care of the gas.

Na wah for Nigerians, if you are not a fan of OBJ then don't bother posting on this thread as the title is clear enough.

I am one of his fans for the simple reason that he decided to tackle corruption head on even though he is not perfect and more needs to be done.

But for starting a process that will help Nigeria and Nigerians in the long run, I support him.

If we can tackle corruption in Nigeria we can tackle any other thing.

@dblock,

Very well stated. Responsible ko, reasonable ni.

And what has OBJ and PDP got to do with this man's death now?

It seems that anything that happens in this country must be traced back to OBJ or the PDP.

It is either we are not praying enough or Gos is too wise to only answer the prayer of the righteous.

Big B1:
As long as the organization is restructured, absolutely yes.

Ehen, na now you come.

Your position is a good one and I agree with you even though I will still support the EFCC as it is currently structured now rather than see it go altogether as the selective fight against corruption is better than no fight at all.

My friend, there is absolutely no reason why I should hate you.

Which is better, to provide a simple and straight forward answer to the question or to write all you wrote in your post without answering the question?

Do you believe that the EFCC should stay or no?

Interesting topic.

From experience the best bet is to spread your tentacles and provide services that actually solve problems as all of us have problems to solve.

I started with basic website design then went into real programming but funny enough the bulk of the money I make today come from alternative energy, building inverters and installing backuo systems for people.

Even though I went into the inverter stuff to solve my own problem of spending too much money on fuel in my office, I ended up building them for clients when ordinarily came into my office to discuss web projects. These people just wonder how I toggle a switch and everything comes on once there is power failure while they are still in the office.

So, we must look around us and look for a need to fulfill and if we do well money will chase you wherever you go, not you chasing money.

Mustay:
THIS GUY GOT BUSTED ON AIT'S SHOW; FACE THE NATION WERE SOMEONE SENT A TEXT ASKING IF HE WAS AN EX-CONVICT AND THE GUY SWORE AS A XTIAN THAT THE NEVER VISITED A PRISON IN HIS LIFE. NAIJA, KNOW UR PEOPLE WELL WELL! INEC HAS A FAULT 'ERE

Christain indeed, that is why I look for my shoes or slippers to wear the moment someone is advertising that he/she is a christian especially the I am a born again type.

People who lie, steal and do all sorts of bad things still claim to be the same good christains.

On INEC, there is no point blaming them since even if they found out and decided to exclude him from the elections the courts will still tell INEC that it cannot disqualify anyone regardless of the reasons for the disqualification.

I wonder why INEC will be vested with the job of overseeing an election with no real powers to disallow people that are not qualified to run in the first place.

@BigB1,

Na wah for you oo.

Ok, are you saying that the EFCC should stay or no?

I need to understand your position as the puzzle you are giving my big head is really causing my headache.

As for me, EFCC should stay and if possible ICPC should go since it has not achieved any meaningful thing since its creation.

The One:
Afam,

concerning communities that have 24 hrs electricity, find the list below:

1) Commuities around Chevron's Abiteye flowstation
2) Communities around Chevron's Makaraba platform
3) Communities around Chevron's Opuekeba platform.

You said three, I've mentioned three. The first two are in Delta state, the last one is on the Delta/Ondo state boundary.

There a lot more communities that enjoy constant electrcity. Communities arounf Bonny for instance.

I apologize if I've mistaken your identity for someone else's but if you look at the links below, you'll see where someone called Afam advocated for the discovery fund.

http://www.dipotepede.com/2006/08/28/nospetco/

http://deoluakinyemi.com/2007/01/11/nospetco-how-much-longer/

Sorry for the fallacy of improper assumption, I assume you patented the name "afam" on all these blogs like I did mine.

I will ask around concerning the communities stated as I do not know anything about Chevron's activities.

Apology accepted on the mistaken identity issue. I was surprised as I never discuss issues I don't understand.

We shall always agree or disagree on issues so take objections lightly as we will all benefit from them. I am in agreement that the oil companies are not responsible for infrastructural development as that lies with the government at all levels.

The One:
I did not attack your person, I only made an observation based on what I've noticed about you on different thread and even different blogs. You want an example? I know you've been touting the assertion that discovery fund yields more than all the risky high yield investments around and that is wrong but you come on board and announce it with all confidence. You could say it could prove to be more durable but it definitely doesn't yield more!! That baffles me and makes me wonder!

Again, where did the false accusation above come from? I am sure that in my whole life I have never gotten into any arguement/discussion about discovery funds not to talk about comparing it with anything or is the writer in a hurry to cast aspersions even when there is no basis?

What responsible people do when they make a mistake is to acknowledge them, correct them and move on.

The One:
To tell you the truth which obviously you won't hear anywhere, the only places that have 24 hrs constant electricity in Nigeria are communities around oil company installations. You will not know that because you sit in the US or UK or wherever and echo whatever comment is posted on the forum whether for or against. Abi na McDonalds dey give you light for where you dey? At least there's no way you won't have McDonalds in whatever city you are in.

Please let's separate emotion and propaganda from this issue and face the facts.

Can you please list 2 or 3 communities around oil comapny installations in the Niger Delta that enjoy 24hrs electricity?

texazzpete:
@Donzman
I've had several run-ins with you in the past because i've been unwilling to tolerate your factless drivel. Where did you hear that Oil companies are currently paying bribes to the Government? It's an offence warranting outright dismissal for any Shell staff to pay bribes out, and there's an efficient reporting system so anonymous reports can easily be sent to the Shell headquarters in The Hague. Chevron, Elf and Mobil have similar systems in place. It's a pity most of us buy into the propaganda war so easily.

Even though there is no official backing or support for bribes the oil comapnies do pay bribes in some cases. Have you been to a typical export line where the meter prover (the most accurate flow meter to record exactly what is being shipped out) is located? Who crosschecks what the oil companies state? How many government agencies are supposed to be there to confirm readings?

Bribe can be offered (of paid when demanded) to speed up processes like permits, inspections, getting decisions made on time etc.

From DPR to NAPIMS to NNPC the story is the same. So, while policies may frown at such practices in reality it is done. Just like in every establishment there is usually a disconnect between the official position and what obtains in reality. Even the official position of the Nigeria Police Force on bribe is clear, they don't tolerate it and will fire anyone caught doing it but what do we have in reality?

Things go wrong in the oil and gas because some of our fathers, uncles, brothers ask for an collect bribes to be able to send their children to school abroad or to private ones in Nigeria and the oil companies are usually eager to comply as their primary aim here is to maximize profit, not promote a corruption free society.

I agree with you that the whites could not have succeeded with the slavery stuff if our own people did not help them mainly for their selfish aims.

The Madam Tinubu, is she related to the governor of Lagos state?

So? Is PDP not a party that most politicians prefer to be in?

Give the likes of Atiku, Buhari and co the chance to become the flag bearers of PDP and see how fast they will dump their present parties to join the PDP.

A party with a lot of followership will certainly have more money to spend because members can easily contribute money.

Big B1:
Do you get it, AFAM?

I hope so!

Get what? One moment you are talking about not having any need for EFCC as ICPC could do the job and the next minute you are saying the opposite.

Honestly, I do not know where you stand on this issue.

Again, since it is easy for you to note where EFCC is doing the right thing in the wrong way it wold be easier for you to know at least one innocent person that has been arrested or indicted by the EFCC.

The excuse that "I am a thief but Mr A is also a thief and you have not arrested him" is nonsense.

software:
Nigeria needs a turning Point. and we all need to join hands to vote someone eligible and honest. Presently i realy can't figure out anyone who is honest. but some are OKAY. i wount state any here please

You know of those that are honest but you won't state any here but you will attempt to portray Yar'adua as not being clean even when no single person has been able to accuse him of corruption.

The money being spent on campaigns, is it only PDP, virtually all the political parties with presidential candidates have been spending money moving from one state to another unless you are telling us that theirs is free.

The media is there to make money and if some political parties cannot pay for the advert there is nothing anyone can do.

@alanbolo,

The prices for any products or services we render are always displayed on the website. Thanks for your time.

The One:
Afam
I did not attack your person, I only made an observation based on what I've noticed about you on different thread and even different blogs. You want an example? I know you've been touting the assertion that discovery fund yields more than all the risky high yield investments around and that is wrong but you come on board and announce it with all confidence. You could say it could prove to be more durable but it definitely doesn't yield more!! That baffles me and makes me wonder!

One more wrong clonclusion based on a premise that does not exist.

For your information I never get into discussions on things I don't understand so only God knows where you got the Discovery funds story from.

Can you clarify or will you dance around the wrong accusation too?

@Bolarge,

Thanks man and the funny thing is that the same people that used the sweats and bloods of our forefathers to develop their lands are now labeling us either under developed world, developing nations or 3rd world countries and some black men and women agree with them without realizing it.

Here is another information from the same private forum posted on the same issue. Hope some of us that are black and proud enjoy it.

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A world without black people.

LIFE WITHOUT BLACK PEOPLE



A very humorous and revealing story is told about a group of white people who were fed up with African Americans, so they joined together and wished themselves away.



They passed through a deep dark tunnel and emerged in sort of a twilight zone where there is an America without black people.



At first these white people breathed a sigh of relief.



At last, they said, No more crime, drugs, violence and welfare.



All of the blacks have gone! Then suddenly, reality set in. The

"NEW AMERICA " is not America at all-only a barren land.



1. There are very few crops that have flourished because the nation was built on a slave-supported system.



2. There are no cities with tall skyscrapers because Alexander Mils, a black man, invented the elevator, and without it, one finds great difficulty reaching higher floors.



3. There are few if any cars because Richard Spikes, a black man, invented the automatic gearshift, Joseph Gambol, also black, invented the Super Charge
System for Internal Combustion Engines, and Garrett

A. Morgan, a black man, invented the traffic signals.



4. Furthermore, one could not use the rapid transit system because its procurer was the electric trolley, which was invented by another black man, Albert R. Robinson.



5. Even if there were streets on which cars and a rapid transit system could operate, they were cluttered with paper because an African American, Charles Brooks, invented the street sweeper.



6. There were few if any newspapers, magazines and books because John Love invented the pencil sharpener, William Purveys invented the fountain pen, and Lee Barrage invented the Type
Writing Machine and W. A. Love invented the Advanced Printing Press. They were all, you guessed it, Black.



7. Even if Americans could write their letters, articles and books, they would not have been transported by mail because William Barry invented the Postmarking and Canceling Machine, William Purveys invented the

Hand Stamp and Philip Downing invented the Letter Drop.



8. The lawns were brown and wilted because Joseph Smith invented the Lawn Sprinkler and John Burr the Lawn Mower.



9. When they entered their homes, they found them to be poorly ventilated and poorly heated. You see, Frederick Jones invented the Air
Conditioner and Alice Parker the Heating Furnace. Their homes were also dim. But of course, Lewis Lattimer later invented the Electric Lamp, Michael Harvey invented the lantern and Granville T. Woods invented the Automatic Cut off Switch.



Their homes were also filthy because Thomas W. Steward invented the Mop & Lloyd P. Ray the Dust Pan.



10. Their children met them at the door-barefooted, shabby, motley and unkempt. But what could one expect? Jan E. Matzelinger invented the Shoe Lasting Machine, Walter Sammons! invented the Comb, Sarah Boone invented the Ironing Board and George T. Samon invented the Clothes Dryer.



11. Finally, they were resigned to at least have dinner amidst all of this turmoil. But here again, the food had spoiled because another Black Man, John Standard invented the
refrigerator.



Now, isn't that something? What would this country be like without the contributions of Blacks, as African-Americans?



Martin Luther King, Jr. said, "by the time we leave for work, Americans have depended on the
inventions from the minds of Blacks."



Black history includes more than just slavery, Frederick Douglass, Martin Luther King, Jr., Malcolm X, and Marcus Garvey & W.E.B. Dubois.





PLEASE SHARE, ABUNDANTLY

egoldman:
Afam and The One please forget your egos and stick to the the topic .

You should be directing this to him because I never made any reference to him as a person in my response until he started making some silly remarks about my person even when I am certain he has limited knowledge about what he was saying.

I discuss issues, don't have time for personalizing issues but when people resort to attacking my person I do not waste time to reciprocate.

ono:
Afam Umuosi, please tell me how on earth our leaders supported the FG in the Biafran war - Is it because we felt we should Go On With One Nigeria against the wishes of the seceeding Igbos? Besides, even if they supported the FG during the war, how does that translate to total ownership of our resources by a clique sitting somewhere in the Sahara? I don't think there's a written agreement somewhere that states categorically that we've forfeited the ownership of our resources to some folks in other parts of the country.

OK, we, the new generation of elders in the Niger Delta wish to state categorically that whatever pact our past elders made with some roguish thieves in the Sahara and other areas is cancelled forthwith. We agree to a round table to discuss this matter all over again!

Please, what is umuosi?

McKren:
@BigB1

I thought you will be nice enough to tell me one innocent person in EFCC net.
I restate my case, I simply don't know why a law abbiding Nigerian will want Ribadu gone.

I am with you McKren on this one, only people with skeletons in their cupboards will be complaining bitterly about EFCC.

Even though I have written a full page article condemning the EFCC sometime in 2003/2004 I still support their so called selective fight against corruption because if reducing the number of corrupt officials from say 100 to 40 or even 50 is not a good thing for Nigeria then I wonder what is.

And as long as innocent people have not been arrested nor convicted there is no need to oppose something that is trying to rid our nation of corruption.

From my inbox, being discussed in a private forum but felt some might find the article interesting.

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WRITTEN IN YESTERDAY'S Guardian, London Mayor Ken Livingstone explains why he is saying sorry for London's role in the slave trade.

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The state failure to issue an apology for a crime as monstrous as the slave trade diminishes Britain in the eyes of the world.

Next Sunday marks the bicentenary of the abolition of one of history's greatest crimes - the transatlantic slave trade. The British government must formally apologies for it. All attempts to evade this are weasel words.

Delay demeans our country. Recalling the slave trade's dimensions will show why. Conservative estimates of the numbers transported are 10-15 million; others range up to 30 million. Deaths started immediately, as many as 5% in prisons before transportation and more than 10% during the voyage - the direct murder of some 2 million people.

Conditions imposed on survivors were unimaginable. Virginia made it lawful "to kill and destroy such Negroes" who "absent themselves from , service". Branding and rape were commonplace.

A Jamaican planter, Thomas Thistlewood, in 1756 had a slave "well flogged and pickled, then made Hector shit in his mouth" for eating sugar cane. From 1707, punishment for rebellion included "nailing them to the ground" and "applying fire by degrees from the feet and hands, burning them gradually up to the head".

When in 1736 Antigua found there was to be a rebellion, five ringleaders were broken on the wheel, 77 burned to death, six hung in cages to die of thirst. For "lesser" crimes, castration or chopping off half the foot were used. A manual noted: "Terror must operate to keep them in subjection".

Barbarism's consequences were clear. More than 1.5 million slaves were taken to the British Caribbean islands in the 18th century, but by its end there were only 600,000. By 1820, more than 10 million Africans had been transported across the Atlantic and 2 million Europeans had moved. But the European population grew to 12 million while the black slave population shrank to 6 million.

If the murder of millions, and torture of millions more, is not "a crime against humanity", these words have no meaning. To justify murder and torture on an industrial scale, black people had to be declared inferior, or not human.

As historian James Walvin noted, there was a "form of bondage which, from an early date, was highly racialised. By 1750, to be black in the Americas (and often in Europe) was to be enslaved." The 1774 History of Jamaica argued black slaves were a different species, able to work "in a very bungling and slovenly manner, perhaps not better than an orangutan".

Material being produced today to mark the anniversary of the abolition of the slave trade makes it appear that white people liberated black - the assumption being they could not do it themselves. In reality, slaves rose against the trade from its inception. This broke it.

The first recorded slave revolt was in 1570. There were at least 250 shipboard rebellions. Jamaican slave society faced a serious revolt every decade, in addition to prolonged guerrilla war. In 1760, 30,000 Jamaican slaves revolted. The culmination, recorded in CLR James's magisterial The Black Jacobins, was the 1791 slave revolt in St Domingue.

After abolition of the trade, slavery in British possessions was abolished following revolts in Barbados in 1816, Demerara in 1823, and Jamaica in 1831, in which 60,000 slaves participated. For this reason Unesco officially marks August 23, the anniversary of the St Domingue rebellion's outbreak, as slavery's official remembrance day.

No one denigrates William Wilberforce, but it was black resistance and economic development that destroyed slavery, not white philanthropy.

Slavery's reality is increasingly acknowledged outside Britain. One of the few things on which I agree with George Bush is his description of transatlantic slavery as "one of the greatest crimes of history".

The Virginia general assembly last month expressed "profound regret" for its role, stating slavery "ranks as the most horrendous of all depredations of human rights and violations of our founding ideals". The French national assembly declared slavery a "crime against humanity". In 1999, Liverpool became the first major British slaving city to formally apologise. The Church of England Synod followed suit.

The British government's refusal of such an apology is squalid. Until recently, almost unbelievably, it refused even to recognise the slave trade as a crime against humanity, on the grounds that it was legal at the time. It helped block an EU apology for slavery.

Two arguments are brought forward against official apology - not only by the government but by David Cameron. First, an apology is unnecessary because this happened a long time ago. This would only apply if there had been a previously apology - there hasn't been. Slavery was the mass murder of millions of people. Germany apologised for the Holocaust. We must for the slave trade.

Second, that apologising is "national self-hate". This is nonsense. Love of one's country and its achievements is based on reality, not denying it. A Britain that contributed Shakespeare, Newton and Darwin to human civilisation need fear comparison with no one. A British state that refuses to apologise for a crime on such a gigantic scale as the slave trade merely lowers our country in the opinion of the world.

It is for that reason that I invite all representatives of London society to join me in following the example of Virginia, France, Liverpool and the Church of England, by formally apologising for London's role in this monstrous crime

@The One,

My disagreement started with the 85% tax on profit which is wrong and which you have rightly amended to huge even though huge is relative.

Secondly, you have also confirmed that the 60% - 40% JV scenario is not firm.

On the 2 issues above I based my initial comments on and you have not disagreed with any of the two so why go about attacking my person?

I would not go into who knows what since my 2 objections have been confirmed by you.

But having played a major role in the construction of the OSO/NGL Gas recovery project in Bonny and the revamp of about 38 offshore wellhead platforms as a process engineer and a project engineer respectively not to talk about the administrative areas that included having meetings with NAPIMS and NNPC I will say that I have not been listening to propaganda but stating what actually happens.

When people disagree with any position you take, try to see if the objections are valid and in this case they are so I wonder why you would resort to attacking my person if you had agreed with my objections. Leave your pride when engaging people on a discussion forum as you may make a mistake that your pride may not allow you to correct forever, in some cases.

The One:
Afam,

what do you mean by "the sharing formula is faulty?"

Not all JV partners are in the 60%-40%, some are in 51%-49% while some have up to 3 different companies sharing the non FG stake.

85% of the profits being paid as taxes is not correct even though I cannot recall the exact profit margin that is returned as taxes.

The oil companies make more or better still short change Nigeria when they use oil servicing firms to take money away and is usually written off as servicing or operational costs.

That is why a job that should cost say $300M to accomplished could be quoted for $900M and there is nothing the government can do because they will always justify such nonsense by saying that Nigerians lack the necessary skills to carry out such maintenance, repairs or even major revamps.

Those who siphon the money are the likes of Schlumberger or Hallibuton depending on the oil company in question.

While I agree with the originator of this thread that oil companies are not responsible for Niger Development I must state that the sharing formular between the FG and the oil companies is faulty.

On gas flaring, I will still blame the FG because they chose to impose a penalty for every cubic feet of gas flared rather than make the companies cap them and sell them or forget about the exploration/expolitation as Venezuela did even though they have dirty crude.

I will also blame the oil communities in some cases because either the chiefs are shortchanging them or they are making ridiculous offers when the companies even want to embark on certain projects like tarring roads.

Having worked and lived in Bonny Island, Eket, Warri and PH I can comfortably say that the problem in the ND can be attributed to the leaders in the ND from the time they supported the FG in the Biafran war to subsequent policies that laid the framework for the current state of affairs there today.

mo wapa:
You either a dreamer or living an illusionary life, bro! am seriously and openly questioning you and assume you are "DIRTY" citizen.

Your assumptions belong to the trash can based on how faulty your previous assumptions and even conclusions are.

On the contrary, I can state that majority (if not all) of you that oppose the EFCC are into corrupt practices and are criminals because till today the EFCC has never arrested nor convicted an innocent man and that is the main issue.

So, while you hide with a screen name and remain a faceless citizen there are people who use their real names and true identities online in whatever form without any fear of the law because they are genuine and engage in legitimate businesses.

I easily make up to N40,000.00 a day as profit (not revenue) and from this forum alone I have built and installed backup worth over N1M even when I do not advertise what I do (not even any website link to any of my businesses is in my signature because we cannot even handle the requests due to our workforce), these requests simply come from discussions on alternative energy with an average of 2 to 3 new requests everyday.

And that has nothing to do with my main business with is web solutions so you can go hang yourself as not everyone may have questionable past or present occupation like you.

While the last 2 paragraphs are absolutely not necessary to state, sometimes one need to go the extra mile to show people like you that are more likely to be engaged in criminal activities that not everyone is inclined to such ways of life.

On Yar'adua, the point has been made and you can cry all you want, making N500M in over 25 years is not a difficult task for quite a number of honest and hardworking Nigerians.

Again, only criminals will oppose the activities of the EFCC all the time.

Can any of you handle 10,000 phone calls in a day and what is the cost of such calls?

Why would anyone engage in such a stressful and wasteful activity to get information about webmasters when a website would do the job better?

You are able to reach many people simply by posting on this website, why not call millions of Nigerians to tell them that they can call you to get information about webmasters?

Sorry guys, I won't be obliging you on this.

If you do not know anything about his family, try to find out, it is no secret.

The originator of this thread is gradually making clear his real motive even though he has denied it earlier and it is a shame.

Yar'adua still stands tall amongst his peers as far as corruption is concerned and that is a huge plus that no smear campaign can change.

And let me make it clear, it is common for the average Nigerian to accuse people that are better off of corruption even that is wrong. You hear comments like he is into 419, how can he buy a car even when the person is involved in a legitimate business that is fetching the man money.

That you are unable to make money genuinely does not mean that anybody that makes money must soil his/her hands, this is a mindset that some of you need to change.

I wonder what the problem is with N500M for Yar'adua, first it was surprise that he could be worth just that small and now it is how did he make that much even when the originator of the thread outlined his past that is verifiable.

From farming alone one can easily make N500M not to talk about other companies he was either a board member of or even board chairman or even as a director of Habib bank.

Wish you guys good luck in your "pull him down" style.

How much? It all boils down to the cost which in my opinion has been very expensive from day 1 @N150,000.00