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I was accused of lying by this stupid nuzo and when asked to reproduce any single lie I have stated his only response was

nuzo:
Lie: .

This is the highest point of stupidity.

nuzo:
Fact: The FG is still holding the people of Anambra hostage by giving the PDP thugs an enormous amount of power. Or how do you explain the abduction of a sitting governor by the Nigerian police on the orders of Chris Uba? How do you explain the fact that a sitting Anambra governor cannot order the arrest of a criminal like Chris Uba. . . instead, it goes the other way round; he he kidnaps governors?

I doubt if anyone in Nigeria is not aware of the support Chris Uba used to have while OBJ was in power. However, while you are ok with blaming the FG for what your own brother is doing I believe the proper blame should go to Chris Uba and all the people of Anambra that work with him from the over 20 law makers he sponsored to those who are ready to die for him due to what they benefit from him.

nuzo:
Awful thing:
PDP and their thugs like Chris and Andy Uba has only the support of FG, the Police, paid assassins, touts and murderers of which he uses to suppress the people of Anambra state. Exactly the reason why Obi was massively voted by them.
Right now, the FG believes that any party apart from PDP is being sponsored by MASSOP, hence the high interest in the state.

No, I still maintain it that your hypocrisy stinks cos you dont see anything wrong in faulting Anambrarians on this crisis even when its clear that they have fought for democracy more than any other people in Nigeria. But you get riled up the moment a Diasporan faults the Nigerian leaders for the failed system. That is called hypocrisy and double standard.

Same old nonsense, however let will correct a lie you have introduced just for posterity sake. I have never objected to anyone faulting Nigerian leaders for the problems in Nigeria. I fault them too. I have always objected to Nigerians living outside Nigeria abusing those of us that live in Nigeria and will continue to do so.

That you cannot complete a sentence without lying is your own problem not mine.

nuzo:
Talk to me directly you coward. You think you and your opinion are better than anyone else's. In fact, I will be in Nigeria in a few days time and would want to meet you to really understand what drives your selfish, egoistic and holier than thou attitude. I challenge you to invite me to any place safe for you. I will risk all to have a one on one chat with you even though you are the kind of person that can set somebody up with the OPC or security agencies.
I also hope to use the opportunity to discuss my political ambitions with you as you may have a monopoly of idea on the steps I should take.

Just like I stated earlier in my first post on this thread. . . I enjoin Anambra people to keep fighting for democracy as they have always done even in the face of tyranny. . . a heroic attitude people like Afam does not have but will never be appreciative of people who do.

Long live Anambra state!

My response was to you, I don't know how else you expect me to talk to you directly. Are you referring to email, phone or face to face? If yes, then it is not possible as I don't waste my time will clowns.

So, as regards your proposal to have a face to face meeting with me here in Nigeria my response is this - No. I would rather engage a mad man on the street than waste my time with someone who has no credibility and who lies without thinking twice.

If this is how you have been arranging meetings with people then be it known to you this day that the strategy cannot work with me.

You say I have what you termed holier than thou attitude. Well, I think it is more like "honesty" there. I don't lie about anything in my life. I am honest in all I do so I understand why people like you get uncomfortable when we demand honesty as you cannot measure up in that area.

For me it has always been a way of life and criminally minded people cannot change this fact.

Keep looking for outsiders to blame instead of being man enough to blame those who are directly responsible for the actions you frown at.

Kobojunkie:
Banking is more than ecommerce. I mean you can script a simple ATM-like program that does simply data retrieval and display with that but when it comes to actually doing some heavy work that requires heavy work, I doubt php or any scripting language can hold.

Can anyone state what the heavy work that requires heavy work mean here because the rate at which we put down meaningless statements just to sound knowledgeable is getting out of hand.

What is this heavy work that is being referred to here?

OAM4J:
The essence of this thread is not to brag but to appreciate the effort of the Diasporas, and to point out that we contribute our quota to the economy of Nigeria which means we have a stake to determine and criticize how the Country is being governed. When we complain about the country, it’s because we feel the pain too. We wish the country is better and we would not be put under much pressure to pump this entire money home to take care of the dying masses of Nigeria.

Dying masses of Nigeria? Is this what your family members tell you so that you can send money to them?

It is this gross display of stupidity that makes it seem like anyone is against Nigerians living outside Nigeria when responding to the nonsense you put down here.

What work do you do where you are? State it here so that we can know if you are able to even make money legitimately let alone have extra to send home. Before you know it security guards and dish washers will be bragging about sending money to those they borrowed monies from while in Nigeria.

Dying masses in Nigeria indeed. I don't see any genuine hardworking Nigeria making such a stupid statement though.

Eziachi:
Have you heard the saying that, there is no such thing as a free lunch. Education comes with a price, I am not here to supplement your Nigerian made educatin by answering your endless and sometimes meaningless questions not with a quest to learn especially when you think that I am insecure. Why not ask your father, he might tell you some. If he doesn't then let us know.

Hmm, earlier I wrote the following because I know how people like these behave

Afam:
While you await for the answers to your questions (many of them I find ridiculous anyway) I have just one for you.

Why are you using an Igbo username on this forum even when you are from the North if you are not ashamed of your tribe or your people?

@ the questions asked by this man,

I sincerely hope that people do not bother responding to him because there will be no end in sight as regards questions as this is the usual tactics of people that want to derail threads.

Radiant:
That's what the statistics prove. You shouldn't be mad that I believe them and I shouldn't be happy that you live in denial.

Figure it out. You like facts, right? Take some statistics classes.

You must be a celebrated fool to vomit this statement. What can you people manufacture in that glorified country called Nigeria? Is it not because of people like you and your hopeless government that men are busy working to manufacture inverters for your pathetic lives?

Unlike Nigeria, they have electricity in their countries to enable them manufacture all that. Can you do that in Nigeria? The fact that they're manufactured in Canada and USA doesn't mean they have to use them. Dumbo! What do you know? You should be ashamed of your loose knowledge.

You started with the insults and I ignored all that but just like most Nigerians you like it the hard way. Who are you that one can't insult? I know your type so relax. You can hang yourself for all I care. Nobody will miss you, idiot.

I stated earlier that your thinking process was fundamentally flawed. I think that was actually a compliment because it is pretty obvious that you are a complete egg head.

However, I recognize the fact that you cannot understand information that is beyond your comprehension level so I won't even bother. And when they talk about Nigerians living outside Nigeria clowns like you are counted? This is the real tragedy.

Onlytruth:
Afam, I'm taking it easy with you because you are my brother and I can only assume that you see things differently, which is fine. We are Igbos and freedom of opinion is our gift to the world.
But, I wonder how you can't seem to find the nexus between Uba's rogue activities in Anambra state and outside influence. I hope you realize that your prescription can actually be a snare for leading figures in Anambra state ( and I suspect Igboland). If Ojukwu had tackled Uba directly, can you envisage the outcome? It would then be interpreted as another Anambra internal political affair. With heavy Federal support, do you think Uba will back down? So, Ojukwu, as our beloved leader and sage confronted the source of the problem directly and everyone is celebrating today.

Anyi nwere ebu, nwe nfu - (we have both sides of the peace spectrum). We have God and we have Satan as well. Unfortunately, in this world, people don't fear God, they fear Satan!

I cannot support anything that will undermine my own people, God forbid!

I cannot pretend that the Ubas do not have outside support but those outsiders cannot do anything in Anambra without the willing tools they found in Chris Uba and others.

Now, if some people agree to be sponsored by this man, I am talking about over 20 law makers and a governor then it means that we have a serious issue here and the people must correctly identify those that are working hand in hand with the enemies instead of putting the blame on an outside.

Dem say na rat wey dey inside go tell the one wey dey outside say make e come chop fish.

I am from Enugu state and even though it was widely rumored that Chimaroke was OBJ's boy I couldn't imagine myself blaming OBJ for Chimaroke's action as every single person should be held accountable for his deeds.

I hope my position is clear now.

Radiant:
Is a Naira credit card also meant for half of the population living below the poverty line of $1?

Half of over 150 million Nigerians living with less than $1 per day?

Needless to state this but clowns like you would even believe the world bank if it changes the statement to read that 90% of Nigerians drink only water year in year out.

That is the high level of stupidity you are bringing to the table.

That statement has been around even when $1 was exchanging for about N120.00 and this confused woman believes that indeed over 75 million Nigerians live on less than N120.00 a day.

If the statement by any imagination is correct then Nigeria should be praised for having being able to achieve this miracle.

The major inverter manufacturers in the world are in the USA and Canada even where they provide you with 101% electricity. Can't you use your brain to process information before spreading the nonsense you put down or are these companies owned by Nigerians?

Keep shifting the goal posts defender of Nigerians. Any insult you direct at Nigerians living in Nigeria will be responded to in kind, just have this at the back of your mind.

If you send money to your friends and family members that may have forged documents for you and contributed money to pay for your visa and tickets it does not give you the right to talk down on Nigerians living in Nigeria because in reality a lot of them are doing far better than you are doing.

The issue was about the insult, I will always remind readers this fact no matter how hard you try to divert attention to other things.

No one has claimed that Nigeria is ok the way it is and no one has compared the infrastructure in Nigeria to those outside so stop manufacturing issues that never existed on this thread just to justify your very careless and irresponsible comments and insults.

back2back:
STOLE, WASTE, FRAUD, MISS-MANAGED, CORRUPTION etc = end of the day, the purpose for the money was not achieved!!!

$16billion gone only to bring us MORE DARKNESS!

OBJ stolen our $16billion!

You see why I stated that you cannot stand facts? Your lie about $16 billion remains a lie and even a bigger lie was that you claimed Yaradua made the claim.

Please, learn to have some respect for facts and truth, it really helps in life.

A simple task for you to prove a statement that has been repeated over and over could not be completed because a lie cannot stand any serious scrutiny.

While you await for the answers to your questions (many of them I find ridiculous anyway) I have just one for you.

Why are you using an Igbo username on this forum even when you are from the North if you are not ashamed of your tribe or your people?

@ the questions asked by this man,

I sincerely hope that people do not bother responding to him because there will be no end in sight as regards questions as this is the usual tactics of people that want to derail threads.

Epiphany:
http://www.internationalrivers.org/en/node/2588

In this article, it is said that Yar'Adua himself made it known that btw 1999 and 2007, the administration of his predecessor spent $10 billion on the power sector without building any new power plants.
However, for the fun of it, if you google "$16 billion + Nigeria + Yar'Adua + Obasanjo", you will come up with so many news clippings and stories of that exact amount from different news sources. So who do we believe? Or are we to say that ALL these stories are fabricated? ALL?

I understand that this thread is digressing so instead of taking it further away from its topic, lets just agree that OBJ Mismanaged SOME BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. It does not matter what the amount was. If ever he (or his administration) is found guilty, mismanaging 1billion or 10billion will still fetch those involved some stiff penalties.

Different amounts were reportedly spent or wasted from $10 billion to $16 billion with the law makers and presidency claiming $13 billion at a time. An economic adviser who attempted to correct the mistake by the presidency was fired. At the end of the day the same law makers put the amount to about $5 billion.

Now, this is about the amount quoted.

What did they consider wastage?

Most of the comments that nothing were on ground based on trips and tours of the law makers were based on complete ignorance on what constituted EPC contracts.

Many wondered why over 60% of funds were given out to relevant contractors without seeing anything on ground forgetting that you can as well spend over 70% of the total project amount without seeing anything on ground and this is perfectly normal in such contracts where the bulk of the time and money goes into engineering design and procurement which usually includes custom fabrication of components based on small but important things as little as soil texture and gas composition for the gas fired power plants.

Imported (completed) turbines were even laying waste at different ports while the ongoing probe was on and the projects were still within the stipulated time frame and yet close to 1 year was wasted in the process.

However, there were irregularities in the award of some contracts and those responsible should be made to face the music.

My point is that love OBJ or hate him when it comes to solving the power problem in this country no president or head of state has done more than this man who has his own faults and made some mistakes while he was in power.

We must avoid blanket commendation or commendation and instead admit the positive or the negative actions of anyone without any sentiments based on facts.

Ojukwu clearly demonstrated that the problem can be tackled by the people of Anambra and not the typical buck passing that some of our brothers do where they will put every single blame on foreigners instead of addressing the core issues and holding the people responsible for the problems accountable for their actions.

otokx:
It appears most of the recipients of that cash used it in buying MTN recharge cards and china phones which means Nigeria as a country gained nothing.

Chai! This one na uppercut.

And you "the teacher" don't have any?

back2back:
Yaradua is the President of Nigeria.

He clearly said OBJ wasted $16bill

I would believe Yaradua statement over anyone else!

This is not first time OBJ has been 'dabaru everything'; Fela sang about this even way back in 1978.

OBJ stole our $16billion!

The content in bold refers, can you point us to any evidence, statement or article where Yaradua made that statement about OBJ wasting $16 billion?

I guess this should be a simple thing to prove considering the interest the issue generated.

So, just educate us on that statement before we muddle things up with other diversions.

nuzo:
I guess its OK for a Lagosian like you to lie and say awful things against Anambra people, but a haram for Diasporans to criticize their corrupt leaders.

Your double standard/hypocrisy stinks to high heavens!

1. Produce a single lie that I stated.

2. Produce the awful thing I stated.

3. Your understanding of hypocrisy obviously is wrong.

4. What you call double standard maybe due to ignorance on your part.

Only fools would make blanket accusations without stating a single fact to back up their statements.

Your inability to comprehend my post is your own problem not mine. I don't have to make statements that you approve of for the statements to be valid.

candylips:
Sure. A custom built solution was more relevant to that use case.

My open source debate was actually related to the e-commerce thing.

No wahala. Enjoy the weekend and take care.

tosh_acer:
Do these goons know how much an average American business man in Nigeria takes out of Nigeria to America yearly? Do you know how much the Chinese, Indians, South Africans make from Nigeria and send back to their home country daily? We talking billions daily, in the same dead economy, in the ame failed system, in the same rotten egemony that you ran away from, do you know how much? You stay there praising yourselves for sending money to feed your family! What arrant nonsence!

I agree with the fact that Americans, Indians, Chinese and some other nationals make 10000 times the amount that was reported as funds being sent to families and friends in Nigeria by Nigerians.

OvieE:
U must be an asshole. You probally denied visa hundred times and u could not make it to abroad to send money to feed your hungry lion and F ugly families.

Guy, there are people that would reject offers to travel to UK, USA etc even with free tickets and accommodation. Do not imagine that everyone is interested in such.

And this "you may have been denied visa" is getting rather weak, monotonous and ineffective when responding to real issues. Tackle the issues raised and leave probability matters for mathematics students to sort out.

candylips:
Yes it is true that sometimes you can't aviod re-inventing the wheel but i think some of the better generic open source tools out there these days are flexible enough for you be able to customize to a specific requirement if required

You are right about the learning curve required in learning how to extend some of these tools but once you pass the initial curve i think you will be fine.

The good thing about these tools is that it is developed by a community of developers so it would probably have been thoroughly tested (at least the very good ones with an active community) and if you get stuck with a problem you have people who will be willing to help you out

Downsides to doing your own thing is that you have to go through many cycles of testing to ensure that the software is doing what it is supposed to do. Fix little niggly bugs and all

I believe in open source.

If you get to discuss custom projects with companies then you will see where over reliance on already existing software may boomerang.

I was once recommended to one oil servicing firm here in Lagos concerning a CV, recruitment and project tracking software. I was informed by the company that they had rejected two off the shelf software solutions after seeing the demos by some IT firms. They only made this information available to me because I refused to do a demo without being paid as I made it clear that free demos don't make any sense.

At the end of the day a custom solution was built for them meeting all the requirements they brought to the table and they have been using the solution.

The only reason why I was confident on being able to deliver was because I understand the building blocks of programming and could turn whatever business process into code. I wouldn't have been able to do this with off the shelf products even if it meant tweaking a few codes here and there.

citizenY:
@ AFAm

Honestly, i do not know why you are keeping this dialogue with chidi.

With all due respect, some of these guys abroad think they have seen it all. A lot of them live in the fringes of their
host countries and are living on a social security safety net cultivated by the citizens of that country. Some of them are at
best , illegal aliens and have no significant contribution to their host countries. what this means is that they do not have any
possibilities of interacting with the system for fear of apprehension (illegal alien) or for lack of resource to do so.

Don't get me wrong, I am speaking from experience. The moment they are out there, Nigeria is trash. Ll their anger is focussed on
Nigeria, forgetting that the citizens of their host country embedded thamselves at home , braving the odds to come up with a better
society.

Our brothers abandon ship and I can tell you, some cannot even get close to any immigration point as they will be deported. What is
the joy, always on the run and living on the fringes of the social system. It is very easy to know those I am talking about - their language, content,logic and
method of delivery, inany argument.On the other side of the fence, you get to meet the sound ones too and you get robust arguments and analysis.

I usually don't get to read more than 2 sentences from this guy and I have told him so several times.

However, whenever I see my name being used in any of his nonsense and incoherent posts I do my best to correct any false representations because people like these don't have any problems lying about almost everything and if these lies are left unchallenged some might wrongly assume them to be true.

I am only on the look out for lies that have to do with my name as I have known the guy to be completely clueless and confused for more than 2 years now.

logica:
If you are still referring to the talk about shopping cart and all those other concepts that have long since become standard since the turn of the century, you must be some sort of dinosaur, and you must find it hard reading like your comrade webddezzi. I will not waste my time creating a shopping cart when there are thousands of free code I can use for that. We Java developers treasure the concept of reuse - APIs and frameworks.

I have given you a link to show-case what you can do, knowing that the problems are not the usual form-post-to-database that people like you are used to. Funny enough, most undergraduate programs in real software development would have delved into such problems but I doubt you know the first thing about path-finding problems/algorithms and such. If you do, feel free to solve the problems and post your solutions.

One thing that is common with the average educated Nigerian is that he/she finds it supremely difficult to process information or comprehend issues due to intellectual stubbornness and will never admit that.

You have jumped from shopping cart to posting a link on PHP puzzles just to hide your inability to help someone fix a program on a language you so brag about but obviously know nothing about as regards actual usage.

Seems you are enjoying the diversion from the real issues. I will have to put an end to that enjoyment because I will only respond to your post when you address the issues on ground. Any irrelevant post will be ignored based on merit.

Oya, let's have your next post so we can see how it will fare.

logica:
Need I say that the "ML" in HTML stands for "Mark-up Language"? Or what does all the PHP code eventually translate into by the time it arrives in the user's browser? Bragging to know what language? How many problems have you solved other than reinventing the wheel, till the wheel literally falls off, and repeating the mantra of 70% adoption? Please -> -> -> . . .

If you want to demonstrate the power of PHP and your skills, go here and solve the problems:

http://www.blackplanet.com/developers/programming_puzzles/

Excellent response by someone that cannot even solve a problem for someone and yet will spend the whole day bragging about a language he cannot even use himself.

It is not about acquisition of knowledge, it is about putting that knowledge to use. All the noise you have been making have come to naught because you cannot even help someone solve a basic problem in a language you brag about.

All these paper tigers sef.

logica:
. . .because those 70% don't do not need the kind of high performance required of most business and high-volume applications. They are trivial. Duh!

It's like arguing that the best way to code any web application is to use static HTML, since static HTML pages were predominant in the early years of the WWW.

Is static HTML now a programming language?

Help the poster solve his problem that is the essence of understanding a programming language. It is not about bragging to know the language it is about using the language to solve problems and we have one on our hands right now.

Solve the problem for the guy and leave the bragging rights for now.

chidichris:
@afam,
because u are able to compare nigeria with nowhere, u can't do better than decieving urself by saying nigeria is even better than heaven.
u are handicapped and blindfolded hence u celebrate failures. nigerian constitutions are there for these judges to mention them whenever the needs occur.

Keep your posts very short because I honestly never read more than 2 sentences you write because they are usually incoherent and baseless.

For the records I have never claimed that Nigeria is without problems. It is just that I have refused to see things from your myopic point of view, that's all.

If you were running PHP I am sure someone would have provided the answer to the problem as soon as you posted it.

Another reason to embrace a language that has great support from across the world.

I wish I could help.

chidichris:
Afam, the day u step out of nigeria as see how countries are ruled, how citizerns can express themselves, how leaders are accountable to the ppl they lead, how public funds are used for the interest of the masses, how the problems of the masses is made the problems of the govt, how citizens enjoy the benefits of the state's natural resources, that day, u will begin to appreciate that you have been close to hell in the hands of these overnight billionaires.

Let us assume for a split second that I have ever toyed with the idea of leaving Nigeria and settling abroad the very fact that your level of reasoning is this low and yet you are based outside Nigeria is enough reason for me to send to the trash can all ideas, notions, thoughts etc of leaving Nigeria.

Your relations in Nigeria may be living in hell but trust me Nigeria is not hell and I am not living in hell.

Hypocrites like you travel down to Nigeria and it seems anytime you do so the status of Nigeria changes from hell to heaven. Spare me the silly rhetorics please.

candylips:
I think customizing an existing free ecommerce software in any languague is just fine.

E-commerce is very generic there is no point developing from scatch . . . a waste of brain resources imho

One of the major limitations I have found with technology adoption is the statement - there is no point re-inventing the wheel.

By all means if you can re-invent the wheel go ahead because it is in doing so you get to understand how things work. If e-commerce is very generic then how come it is very difficult for payment gateways in Nigeria to implement simple e-commerce solutions? I have been dealing with IT managers of banks who in my opinion know very little about e-commerce let alone having them implement them to our own unique environment.

Customizing an existing free e-commerce software may cost more and take more time considering the fact that you must understand the design principles, logic and assumptions made by the original developer before you can correctly change anything that may affect the working of the software.

I started using open source solutions like joomla when it was still mambo and after about 2 years I realized they had unnecessary limitations and were not flexible enough to accomplish tasks that clients would want on their websites.

About scalability of PHP my simple question is this - Why do we have over 70% of dynamic applications out there running on PHP?

This forum runs on PHP and it is the most popular Nigerian website and the script is open source.

agitator:
don't mind all the people talking as if it is their own states you will see them coming out to fight.

True, some of us may not come out and fight but we will not be blaming people from other states and even tribes for the problems our own brothers are responsible for.

Epiphany:
Ok, she made a mistake. OBJ and/or his government mismanaged 16 billion and allowed all kinds of things to happen in his administration with Ibori and co - buying and selling multinational companies, receiving bribes and allowing them to have a field day in naija.

There was never anything like $16 billion and that is the issue. Somebody was fired for attempting to correct the president's figure. Senate and House of Reps had different figures and the media was agog with $16 billion.

After all the noise died down figures in the neighborhood of $5 billion were reported as the independent power project.

So, when $16 billion never existed then every single comment based on the lie becomes null and void.

We must learn to respect facts and demand from the media to feed us facts, just facts.

rethink:
@back2back

Where is the evidence that OBJ stole 16 billion?

In Brainwashing to establish a truth you just need to repeat a lie thousand of times The Nazi used it.
With abacha the funds are founds

You must realize that sometimes people say things to make them feel better or justified for their actions.

The lie about $16 billion has been dismantled, corrected, rubbished by facts and yet you still get to see people use this lie as a basis to discuss or debate issues.

chosen04:
Eziachi,
Great work!!
U beat me to it. I was working on same. Its great how the IGBOS have refused to slave to the bastards.

Who is afraid of equity, transparency, justice, fair play and equal opportunity?

These things are what the average Igbo man or woman wants and I sincerely believe that every single person should want the same thing. Sacrificing excellence at the altar of mediocrity has never done mankind any good and will never do.

And after our people living outside Nigeria will tell us that Nigeria is a lawless society and a jungle.

Kudos to the judiciary, yet again.