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PoliticsRe: Is Development All About Personal Wealth? by Afam(m): 10:59am On Nov 13, 2009
Can the society develop without the individuals that make up the society being developed? I don't think so.

Is it possible to see a prosperous nation without prosperous people? I don't think so.

In the final analysis even government boils down to the individuals who are either selected or elected to take charge of the affairs of the people.

So, we may need to rephrase the title for us to appreciate the facts of the matter.
PoliticsRe: Fgn Gives South Africa A Taste Of Their Own Medicine As The Visa Row Between The Two Countries Rages by Afam(m): 10:37am On Nov 13, 2009
rhymz:
U are right Afam,sometimes the hawkish method is the best solution,'Do me I do U,man no go vex'. whoever said give and take is robbery?
Sebi na bible talk say make we do unto others as we go want make dem do unto us?

We must begin to demand respect from others if they expect us to respect them.

If not that our AG in my opinion seems to be protecting some of the governors being tried for corruption I would have written articles to support his stand on not granting the request of the UK concerning Ibori since UK and I think France have not granted the request he made to them concerning the Harliburton problem.

If we have bi lateral agreements then the 2 parties must respect such agreements. So, if the UK cannot grant a request from our AG then the AG is 100% correct in refusing to grant a request from them.

The only problem in this case is that the facts on the ground tend to help shield someone who is being investigated for corruption.
PoliticsRe: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by Afam(m): 9:23am On Nov 13, 2009
asha 80:
Is the problem anambra or pdp anambra?
This particular one is PDP Anambra. Outside the PDP the people of Anambra state have a role to play as regards tolerating the excesses of those they see as destabilizing factors in the state. As long as some people agree to become willing tools in the hands of those that seem to drag the state back and these people are from Anambra state then blaming outsiders is wrong.

This could be termed a case of enemy within.
PoliticsRe: Fgn Gives South Africa A Taste Of Their Own Medicine As The Visa Row Between The Two Countries Rages by Afam(m): 8:43am On Nov 13, 2009
That's a good one. That was the style of Abacha and Momoh - reciprocal foreign policy and it works best.
PoliticsRe: Bankole: Shame On You Ekwueme, Achebe And Anyaoku by Afam(m): 8:33am On Nov 13, 2009
babapupa:
What's with all the Ekiti diversions? I don't think Ekiti has anything to do with what's going on in Anambra.


Btw, don't even worry. Y'all carry on with your bickering. It gets tiring messing with overly tribalisitc and defensive folks.

You guys keep talking about the federal government as if it's some kind of strange entity from mars. Are your elected leaders from Igbo land not part of every inch of the same federal government?
I agree with the above. I have had serious and sometimes bitter debates with my friends from Anambra state concerning the issue in Anambra state.

During the time of OBJ it was believed that Chris Uba had the backing of OBJ and I maintained that as long as Chris Uba was able to sponsor a governor and about 20+ law makers in the state then he has support from within the state and that if the people of Anambra do not want him he will become history.

Now, OBJ is not in power and they still believe that FG is holding the people of Anambra hostage and I disagree with this. No army can stand the wrath of the people when the people choose to fight.

As long as all the major players in this political game are from Anambra state then it makes perfect sense to state that these players indeed have support from people within the state unless they are saying that it is non Igbos that are being used to vie for offices or rig elections in the state.

We cannot solve any problem as long as we continue to shift the goal post each time Yekini wan score goal. It simply doesn't make any sense.
PoliticsRe: HISTORY LESSON: Nigeria/Biafran Civil War Most Famous Quotes!! by Afam(m): 8:30am On Nov 13, 2009
And today the Igbos still hold their own in every single endeavor. Evil cannot and will not overshadow good.

The blood of the innocent killed will continue to haunt the wicked and some are even regretting, others have had to die shamefully while others have become confused and stupid now after realizing that their short sightedness made no sense.

I guess with these facts more non Igbos would learn to appreciate what the Igbos went through, what they represent and what they will always fight for.
PoliticsRe: Beaf , I Registered You On Faceglobe On Http:// by Afam(m): 7:55am On Nov 13, 2009
Jakumo:
This is an ominous development, because when a determined and COMMITTED man like Becomrich gets Hot, NO living creature is safe from summary impalement.
grin grin grin grin

@Beaf,

Do you really think there is a way out for you on this one? Just wait there until he uses google maps to trace you to wherever you go.

@Becomerich,

Trust me if you come down to Nigeria you will dust all these comedians we have here because ya own no get part 2.
PoliticsRe: All Diasporians Know Nothing About Nigeria, They Make Me Laugh When They Argue. by Afam(m): 7:48am On Nov 13, 2009
Radiant:
I think Afam should join him. When a "normal" person begins to assume that PHCN has no problems because he uses inverters then he's probably not "normal".  grin  

Pathetic set of patriots.
I am glad that you have finally found your level where you can do what you are qualified to do - avoid the core issues and engage in saloon talk.

Now that you have found your level i hope you remain there and never bother to comment on real issues lest you confuse yourself again.

One last advice - you gain nothing by lying so desist from it unless of course that is what you have been doing your whole life.
PoliticsRe: All Diasporians Know Nothing About Nigeria, They Make Me Laugh When They Argue. by Afam(m): 11:45pm On Nov 12, 2009
Radiant:
What are you saying? Sounding like you got a point. The fact that you call me a liar doesn't mean I'm one. I know that some people her know exactly what I'm talking about.

I'm sure there's access to internet for everyone where I live but you have to pay. Now, if you don't pay you don't get access and in some cases it's even free.

Now, if there was light in Nigeria people will have the option to pay and have light or not and remain in darkness. At least it won't be the government's fault if people can't afford their electricity bill.

Good for you that you built your own inverter. That's not the point. The point is that you don't need one when you can have it flowing effortlessly.
Nope. I don't call people liars without proof and I have provided more than enough but as it is typical with Nigerians you would rather go to war than accept your mistakes or retract false accusations that have been pointed out.

On inverter, since you want to dwell on it tell the major inverter manufacturers in USA and Canada to stop building them and tell those people who have never been connected to the grid in the US to stop using inverters because electricity ought to be flowing naturally to every single home.

I can't remember the minister that stated once that the views of Nigerians living outside Nigeria are inconsequential. I think the person that made that statement has point even though it shouldn't apply to all but a great majority.
PoliticsRe: Nigerians Abroad Remit $10bn Home In 2009 - World Bank by Afam(m): 11:40pm On Nov 12, 2009
OAM4J:
@princek12

The issue is not wether the diaspora has a successful career/bussiness or does a menial job. The issue here is that these diasporans make a huge contribution to Nigeria economy and they should be appreciated.
Anyone that contributes to the development of Nigeria should be appreciated.

If you want special appreciation because you send money to your friends and family what type of appreciation will you show to the Nigerians who are doing their best to keep the country going from the bus conductors to the petty traders who push ahead against all odds.

It is funny that the moment the unwarranted insults by Nigerians living outside Nigeria towards Nigerians living in Nigeria were challenged so many diversions have been introduced just to avoid the core issue of unwarranted insults.
PoliticsRe: Abubakar Umar, Special Assistant To Cac Boss, Brutally Murdered, Burnt by Afam(m): 11:26pm On Nov 12, 2009
Sources claim all manner of things from conspiracy theories to lies.

Which one are we going to believe? The land matter or forgery matter?
PoliticsRe: All Diasporians Know Nothing About Nigeria, They Make Me Laugh When They Argue. by Afam(m): 11:21pm On Nov 12, 2009
Radiant:
You really wanna get down with the insults? Let this be the last time please.

Inverter or no inverter at least you have light and that's why you don't see the problem with PHCN. How many people can afford an inverter? Why should we use inverters in Nigeria in 2009? And we supply power to Chad?

Why have you failed to see the problem we are discussing here? Why should you spend money on an inverter when you should have steady power supply from PHCN? What about those that don't even have power cables and transformers in their area? Those that can't afford candles let alone inverters?

Why do you think that the Nigerian government is doing the right thing just because you can afford an inverter? You seem to care only for yourself, right?
More than 50% of the population live below the poverty line which is $1 and you expect me to take you serious?

Things are bad in that country. It's nothing personal against the country but reality. It's bad enough that the government is a joke but to even try to deny that is rather embarrassing.
It is obvious that you are confused here. Jumping from one point to the other anytime your lies are exposed. I built the inverter, I did not buy one and building something to solve a problem is 100% better than not doing anything or complaining forever.

Mrs defender of the masses why do you have to spend money on internet when some people cannot afford to do so even in the country where you reside?

People like you should be dismissed entirely because you will always create new issues all the time to hide your ignorance and idle talk.

Who is supporting the government here? I doubt if you will ever summon the courage to challenge the government the way I do even when everything about me is open and transparent for people to verify unlike people like you that hide under screen names to type nonsense.

Don't you have any shame? Your lies are beginning to make me sick right now.

As long as you continue to pay for internet access while you have beggars in whatever country you live in them you are a bloody hypocrite.

As regards the comment on insult you must be crazy to put that down as you have been lying against me since you started responding to my posts so you reserve no rights whatsoever to complain. I treat all liars I come across the same way and until you retract your numerous lies you will not be responded to as a normal human being. If people around you tolerate your lies and false accusation you should realize than I don't owe you that much.
ProgrammingRe: Defend Your Programming Language by Afam(m): 8:14pm On Nov 12, 2009
webdezzi:
let me ask ya, how long will it take a team of 5 java developers to deliver a the simplest shopping cart website in terms of hours?
compare that to what it will take 1 php developer to do same

in terms of productivity, php wins, python rules
Exactly.

I can build a complete shopping cart system with product inventory and order management system in hours because I trust PHP to deliver. Over 70% of web applications out there in the world run on PHP and that is neither a coincidence nor a joke.
PoliticsRe: I Regret Fighting The Civil War-akinriande by Afam(m): 7:36pm On Nov 12, 2009
naijaking1:
I'll try to explain in an unbiased manner as possible.
Igbos never wanted separation in the first place. The idea of seperating from Nigeria was first termed araba by the leadership of the Hausa/Fulani people. Unfortunately, this became the war cry of northerners as they masscred, raped, and executed almost 1 million Igbos for the simple excuse that many of the original coup plotters happened to be Igbos.
Igbos mostly belived in ONE NIGERIA, if not for anything, but for the fact that they felt at home in Sokoto, Ibadan, and Jos, just like they felt at home in Enugu.
The eastern Nigeria region decided to seperate after attempts to follow the Aburi accord failed, and as a mechanism to halt complete externination of the Igbo race. What tribe or group of people would sit idle while it's been dessimated? They called themselves Biafra, a term suggested by an Ijawman.
So, please try to understand true history before taking an informed position.
Good response. However, it will not be easy trying to respond to or correct a lot of stiff mindsets people have lived with all their lives based on lies and hate.

Well done though for stating the facts for all to see.
PoliticsRe: Advantages Of Being A Nigerian by Afam(m): 6:19pm On Nov 12, 2009
stillwater:
As a Nigerian, there are no advantages if you live outside Nigeria. People are treated as individuals not by race, country or gender or how wealthy you are. lipsrsealed
Wonderful? Race don't matter? Which country are you referring to abeg? However, if the statement was made just to hide the obvious and pretend the issues don't exist then no wahala.
PoliticsRe: All Diasporians Know Nothing About Nigeria, They Make Me Laugh When They Argue. by Afam(m): 5:50pm On Nov 12, 2009
Radiant:
Well, you claim to have steady light in your office and wherever and trying to use that as proof of steady light in Lagos. Sorry to burst your bubble. Forget all this liar liar defense. It's too childish.
Your thinking process is fundamentally flawed and your appreciation of facts at best abysmal. Steady light in my office from PHCN? Are you this dumb or are you a chronic liar that can never face facts?
WebmastersRe: Can Nigerians Desing An E-Commerce Website Like Ebay And Paypal by Afam(m): 4:29pm On Nov 12, 2009
www.itsyourcms.com was built from ground up to do just that. Real e-commerce functionality.
PoliticsRe: All Diasporians Know Nothing About Nigeria, They Make Me Laugh When They Argue. by Afam(m): 4:03pm On Nov 12, 2009
Radiant:
The money that was allocated to the power sector was $16 billion. If you say that only $5 billion was used then you probably have to figure out what happened to the remaining $11 billion. I will not help you on that one.
You are the one that needs help here not me. Who told you how much was allocated and how much was used and then how much was squandered? The news was that $16 was squandered so don't shift the goal post now that it has been proven that you are ignorant of the facts.

Radiant:
You talk about steady light in Lagos but was it not recently that some five thousand Lagos residents went protesting the epileptic power supply in Lagos and all over the country?
Another shameless lie. Who told you that we have steady light in Lagos? Can't you finish a simple sentence without lying? I detest liars and cannot stand them because they do more harm than good, in fact they don't do any good at all.

If anyone has ever made the claim that we have steady light in Lagos point us to that claim so that we can condemn the statement. Stick to facts, they help in discussions.

Radiant:
Even Nigerians living in Nigeria spew terrible things about Nigeria let alone the ones abroad. You people back home are the worst. Just because one or two of you here say good things about Nigeria doesn't mean that's how majority will react. The situation is bad and we should not settle for less when we can have more.
"You people back home are the worst". Thank you, stop crying more than the bereaved. It seems that people like are are actually jealous of the people you left behind judging by your comments that range from baseless to outright lies.

Meanwhile, I am only responding to some of your comments that bother or lies or unwarranted insults to people back home. On real issues I won't waste my time debating anything with you.
PoliticsRe: Police Arrest Man, Woman Over Missing Organ! by Afam(m): 5:42pm On Nov 11, 2009
Sunny_bobo:
Mr. Ajala, an eyewitness, said: “after the victim had accused the lady of stealing his organ, to verify his claim, some people among the crowd that had gathered, took both of them to a nearby hotel and after ordering both to strip naked, the victim was told to make love to the woman, but as much as he tried, he could not perform.

“Another woman, a prostitute, was brought in to arouse his feelings, still, he was not moved. After much efforts, the victim started shouting, thereby causing the crowd that had gathered to descend on the lady.
The victim was told to make love to the woman? What sort of nonsense is this? Free sex abi na wetin?

So, the eyewitnesses preferred to watch them naked trying to have sex? This is pure madness.
PoliticsRe: The Truth About Life In London! by Afam(m): 3:55pm On Nov 11, 2009
asha 80:
Is this not the same Uche Nworah in NVS who recently made a post there that nigerians living abroad should not plan to come back to nigeria for now after he came back and experienced the nigerian situation with the lagos benin expressway as a case study?
Assuming he is the same person then it goes to show that indeed he is very objective in his comments for him to be able to say negative things about London and Nigeria based on what he experienced.
PoliticsRe: Dedicated To The Fools Abusing Those In The Diaspora by Afam(m): 3:51pm On Nov 11, 2009
Beaf:
Afam, I do not see people abroad abusing those that are at home (and neither should you). We are not the corrupt government officials they are addressing. Our homes are not the failed system they are crying about.
There is a very clear danger that observers will associate a person with a belief in the things they defend. We should not represent (or fight ugly battles) for corrupt politicians, except we have been either paid or are part of them.

Every well meaning Nigerian is very rightly traumatised by events and the status quo, and we all, regardless of where we are have the right of free speech conferred on us by the constituitionand to speak out.
If people have issues with government officials they should state them.

I don't see how I will ignore comments by people that claim that Nigerians are weak, that they are happy the way things are, that Nigeria is hell or that Nigeria is a jungle where nothing works.

These comments are at best insulting and should be discouraged by all. I am a proud Nigerian and have no reason to envy anyone living outside Nigeria.

When we ask for zero tolerance on insults it is for every one's benefit because you never know who may be at the receiving end just as someone who throws a stone in the market place may end up injuring his mother or sister that came to buy something in the market without the stone thrower knowing that his own person was in the market.

We can blame the government and the officials with enough facts without having to insult each other. This is my point.
PoliticsRe: The Truth About Life In London! by Afam(m): 3:40pm On Nov 11, 2009
Read this a while ago.

For some of us, we are at home with the facts and reality on ground in most of these countries where people run to but one cannot make jest of our people regardless of what they face (even though many of them effortlessly look down upon and insult Nigerians living in Nigeria) because at the end of the day we are all Nigerians.

My worry is that you get to hear even people who do nothing but crime claim to be contributing positively to their host countries and wonder why the FG is not asking them to come and develop Nigeria.

I know genuine people who are extremely very comfortable and shining examples in different parts of the world but that does not mean that many Nigerians are finding life very hard in foreign lands where they may even be classified as 3rd class citizens because common sense shows that in the US a white will have more rights and privileges than a black american who in turn will have more rights and privileges than a typical Nigerian living there.

Honest people will always tell you the facts and their words are worth 1000 times more than what some faceless internet champions type on discussion forums everyday.
PoliticsRe: Dedicated To The Fools Abusing Those In The Diaspora by Afam(m): 3:29pm On Nov 11, 2009
@Beaf,

I believe you are intelligent enough to address issues as they come.

Whether you are living outside Nigeria or living in Nigeria every single problem concerning Nigeria affects you either directly or indirectly.

On the issue of insults, I thought it was those Nigerians living outside Nigeria are the ones abusing their country men and women living in Nigeria?

No need to mix up the issues just to justify a bad thing. Insults either direction is bad.

Or, don't you see anything wrong in the unwarranted insults by those of you who live outside Nigeria?

You cannot insult someone and when the person complains you turn around to claim that you are the one being insulted. It simply doesn't make any sense.
PoliticsRe: All Diasporians Know Nothing About Nigeria, They Make Me Laugh When They Argue. by Afam(m): 3:03pm On Nov 11, 2009
asha 80:
I hope will not continue to shift the goal post on what a sane society should be.I did not need to leave nigeria a year ago to know that something is actually wrong with the country.
Has anyone here whether living within or outside Nigeria state that all is well with Nigeria the way things are?

If yes, please point me to the person or his/her comments.

It seems that those who have been insulting other Nigerians have hit a brick wall as regards justifying such actions and now diversions are being created, comparisons are being made the core issues instead of addressing what has led to 5 pages on this thread - Issue of unwarranted insults by Nigerians living outside Nigeria.

This is why I always advocate for facts because when you base discussions on facts a lot of people who have no respect for facts simply disappear while others will do all they can to shift the goal post or create diversions.

Quite a lot of things are wrong in Nigeria and no one can dispute that. So, let us not manufacture an issue and use same as a basis to justify the insults some of us have kicked against.


nolongTing:
You are an old FAILURE stuck in Nigeria, its not our fault you cannot get a visa.
I didn't know that one needed visa to live in Nigeria. Damn! I must go check with the Immigration immediately. It seems that we now have a case of people weeping more than the bereaved.
PoliticsRe: All Diasporians Know Nothing About Nigeria, They Make Me Laugh When They Argue. by Afam(m): 2:26pm On Nov 11, 2009
Redman44:
There are a lot of opportunities in Nigeria currently, but Diasporeans are finding it difficult to tap into these opportunities because of obsolete infrastructure and an unstable business environment. Diasporeans should not be condemned for demanding for good and visionary leaders in Nigeria. With the hatred being directed at Diasporeans on Nairaland these days, I'm getting scared that people at home will oppose and victimize Nigerians abroad when they come back home. Nothing beats the experience of living in Europe, Australia and New Zealand and North America. What the Nigerian Government should be doing is to make Nigeria receptive and conducive for Diasporeans who relocate back home. Some of the Diasporeans will be coming back with knowledge, better technologies and hard cash that will be invested in Nigeria. There are many good guys of Nigerian origin in the Police force in Britain and America. These guys can be brought to reposition the Nigerian Police Force. The problem with Nigeria is that people are just too envious of the progress of their fellow citizens. We need to start pulling resources together and work towards a common destiny. The poverty in Nigeria is too much at the moment. All sectors of the economy are in a bad shape and there seems to be no Minister or politician who is willing to take the bull by the horns and do things the right way huh huh It is very sad.
You have raised some valid points but have tainted them with misinformation and baseless allegations.

Who hates Nigerians living outside Nigeria?

Do you believe that you have the right to insult Nigerians living in Nigeria just because you are living outside Nigeria?

Why shifting the goal post and manufacturing issues where there are none?

No one is begging any Nigerian living outside Nigeria to come back to Nigeria. The decision to live outside Nigeria is usually personal to those involved.

Unfortunately, your allegation should be the other way round. It is the Nigerians living outside Nigeria that have been insulting Nigerians living in Nigeria and calling the country all manner of names.

There is a world of difference between criticism and insult.

I criticize the government and its agencies and I have been asked to defend some of those criticisms and because I base everything I say on facts no one has victimized me as I produce verifiable facts to back up my position.

As a Nigerian living in Nigeria I reserve the right to complain and discuss issues concerning Nigeria including unwarranted insults by other Nigerians living outside Nigeria.

So, no one is hating you, as a matter of fact the hard cash you talk about may not even measure up when compared to what Nigerians make in Nigeria legitimately so this idea of trying to make it seem that Nigeria is hell and everyone looks up to those outside for help may be misleading a lot of people.

You cannot insult people and expect them to clap for you. Or is it really impossible for one to make his/her points without the insults?
PoliticsRe: This Is For All Cyber Cowards! by Afam(m): 1:44pm On Nov 11, 2009
chosen04:
Poster,
I think the coward are your Police Officers who will kill an innocent man for not parting with N20 bribe and claim accidental discharge and Your Bad leaders who will not bring these criminals to book.
So i cant fathom your reason for ranting blindly
The coward is the person that gives the bribe not the policeman. Can you blackmail an innocent person? NO.

It is funny how we contribute to the problem in Nigeria and turn around to complain about Nigeria.

Anyone that offers or accepts bribe and maintains that Nigeria is corrupt is not only a bloody hypocrite but a confused person.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Is Most Blessed, Says Bonnke by Afam(m): 12:32pm On Nov 11, 2009
chosen04:
Afam,

Those bringing the country into shame are nt Nigerians living outside Nigeria but our l[b]eaders[/b] thus, i cant comprehend your reasons for bashing or lashing Nigerians abroad.
You have every right to blame anyone you want to blame.

It is not everything I can comprehend and in such cases I move on.

I cannot be bashing or lashing Nigerians abroad and be telling them to stop abusing Nigerians living in Nigeria at the same time so do you best to ensure that you are not accusing anyone falsely.
PoliticsRe: All Diasporians Know Nothing About Nigeria, They Make Me Laugh When They Argue. by Afam(m): 9:54am On Nov 11, 2009
Pharoh:
My brother to be honest with you i cannot deny your last paragraph because i witness it everyday where i am and i always argue with them to see things from a different angle. The sad truth is that almost all of them has lived more that 20 years in that same situation before bad mouthing it now.

The insults are really not justified and i wish it could be stopped right now, what we need is joining your resources together to for a partnership that will be good for the country.

One example could have been analyzing  your solution to your energy needs and partner with you to make it more cheaper and available to other Nigerians but it has been misinterpreted as boastful.
I am certainly not bothered about misguided comments from people that see my statement on energy as boastful because in life you must come across people like that who would say anything just to make themselves feel good.

About making energy generation and/or storage units or components affordable I do my best in the way I can considering the fact that this is an area where a lot of corrupt people operate so one has to be careful as they would most likely see alternative energy as a threat to their strangle hold on energy in Nigeria.

The average home in Nigeria can afford a generator no matter how small but the average home in Nigeria cannot afford a car so this simple fact goes to show you the type of money those that keep the refineries and PHCN down are making. You don't exchange firepower with armed robbers, you implement strategies to make their activities difficult to carry out.

What does it take to build a wind generator? Basically all the components are around us especially in any mechanic workshop. What are our electrical engineers doing? Waiting for oil companies, banks and telecoms when they can contribute their quota towards solving a real problem and developing not only themselves but their environments.

People talk about inverters as if they are not used in the developed nations.

All the major inverter and battery manufacturers are in the developed countries from USA to Canada and Germany. Many of them are into alternative forms of energy generation from wind to solar and inverter backup systems.

Did these companies spring up to solve the problem in Africa? No. And that is why a lot of imported inverters fail in actual usage in Nigeria because most of the design assumptions used do not hold water down here.

I have had to discuss with many companies including directors of some of these companies who have had to fly down to Nigeria for one form of partnership or the other and all have resulted to no-deal because they are not ready to alter their design and yet want the same ineffective units to be recommended or supported. Many of them turn around and get other Nigerians that do not understand the technology and the inherent problems in these units and make them distributors.

So, if developed nations can turn to alternative energy why can't Nigeria when we have about the best natural resources in the area of solar energy due to the sun we have down here. Even cold climates in places like Germany are investing in research on solar technology and we cannot do anything.

I am a believer in the great potentials of this country. For this country to be great all hands must be on deck to ignore and dismiss all lies and misinformation being peddled by people that claim to be Nigerians.

Who is afraid of the truth? Is there any disadvantage of being truthful? Why must some of us resort to lies just to make our points. The same country they call hell is the same country they cry for help to when they run into problems in their host countries.

Enough is enough. Let those who want the best for this country continue to offer sincere and honest criticisms based on facts.

Let those who depend on lies keep those lies to themselves. Insults directed at Nigerians living in Nigeria by those living outside Nigeria will be challenged at every juncture and roundly addressed accordingly.
PoliticsRe: All Diasporians Know Nothing About Nigeria, They Make Me Laugh When They Argue. by Afam(m): 9:15am On Nov 11, 2009
Pharoh:
Afam i think the insult goes both ways just that one is more pronounced than the others due to some factors maybe like the difference in population.
My first response on this thread was to correct the original poster's statement that all Nigerians living outside Nigeria know nothing about Nigeria so I do not support such false accusation even if directed to people who effortlessly insult those of us that are living in Nigeria.

What is wrong is wrong. The insults whichever direction cannot be justified at all.

I respect facts. We cannot depend on rumors or lies to effect change in Nigeria. Sometimes you get to pinch yourself just to be sure you are not dreaming when you hear Nigerians talking about Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: All Diasporians Know Nothing About Nigeria, They Make Me Laugh When They Argue. by Afam(m): 9:04am On Nov 11, 2009
AjanleKoko:
Well, I was there for 2 days, and the power didn't go once. For someone living in Lagos, that's 24/7 power!
Though, driving around Accra, you can see generators around, in front of fast food joints and stuff.
On Sunday I sat in one (Frankies, around Osu area), and power went briefly. But I could see technicians working on the pole, installing a new cable.
That made it logical.
That's ok. I wasn't trying to state that you were lying. Just stating that even the over 10 years lie by Ghana that it had steady power cannot be allowed to stand due to the fact on ground.


ahaziah1:
The first post started by making generalisation.
Hence their is a feeling of dichotomy in the house(NL).
Nigerians whether home or abroad remains a Nigerian.
We are one and shud rather joins hands together to proffer and implement solutions to our common problem.
One Love.
Yes, we are all Nigerians and that is the reason why Nigerians should not be abusing or insulting Nigerians just because they are living outside Nigeria. This is 100% wrong and cannot be justified.

We are in it together, after all there is a saying that goes thus - "There is no place like home" and Nigeria is not a jungle neither is it hell.
PoliticsRe: All Diasporians Know Nothing About Nigeria, They Make Me Laugh When They Argue. by Afam(m): 8:36am On Nov 11, 2009
AjanleKoko:
The never-ending Us vs Them war!
I spent most of this summer defending Nigeria to my family and close friends in the UK and US. So much that I may have damaged some long-standing relationships, all because of this argument that shouldn't really be an argument.

I think, in fairness to everyone, maybe the guys abroad do come down a bit hard on Nigerians, in some cases referring to those of us who live at home as lazy and stupid, and unable to enforce change. Meanwhile, they have had little or nothing to do with the state of the society they live in. Many of them are simply fortunate to even be there, while many of us have had to contend with the crap handed out to us, and try to make something of our lives regardless.

On the other hand, the guys in Nigeria are unfair to dismiss criticism from diasporeans as ignorant and selfish. I have many people, family and friends, who are extremely successful in those nations, and they always criticize Nigeria. They're not hungry to come back home, in fact most are full-fledged citizens of where they are, and don't have any immigration pressures. But they love home, and want to associate with Nigeria and Nigerians. In fact I am impressed that just like Chinese and Indians, we Nigerians are very conscious of our culture and we take pride in displaying it. It makes me proud everywhere I go.

But some of the crap going on in this country is just so wrong, it's shameful to be associated with the country sometimes. And, let's face it guys, our attitudes are terrible. We have a lot of positives, but there are too many negatives, which we need to collectively work on.
In my opinion, the issues around Nigeria, and Africa as a whole, are a lot bigger than mere arguments or rationalization. Heck, I was in Ghana over the weekend, and my opinion was that, it is no different, and very likely worse than Nigeria. My own yardsticks for development, such as infrastructure, massive industrialization, good educational system, public housing, transportation, and healthcare, was obviously absent. They do have power 24/7, but I see that a lot around Africa anyway. Whatever these African governments are doing, it obviously does not add anything to the lives of the common people.
No one is against criticisms and every single Nigerian has a right to criticize Nigeria especially when things are not going the way they should.

In doing this they must base their criticisms on facts and more importantly they must not abuse Nigerians living in Nigeria or call our country hell or jungle unless of course all their relations are living in hell.

The issue has been the unwarranted insults by Nigerians living outside Nigeria.

Meanwhile, Ghana does not have 24/7 electricity.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Is Most Blessed, Says Bonnke by Afam(m): 8:29am On Nov 11, 2009
The bible says that if men refuse to worship God that He will raise up stones to do so.

If the Nigerians living outside Nigeria continues to bad mouth Nigeria, lie about Nigeria and insult Nigeria just to justify their present status or predicament then non Nigerians will speak up for Nigeria and tell the world the truth about Nigeria.

Even at that, the credibility and integrity of the foreigner cannot be compared to that of a Nigerian living outside Nigeria when issues concerning Nigeria are discussed.

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