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Ikengawo:
Everybody hatin' and what not lol.
I think the igbo mentality or outlook on life is a very misunderstood one.
so i'll try to explain things from what i've learned



1. Igbos are a cellular people. Most tribes focus on group grandeur, how much land they can conquer or own how many ppl they have, who's dominating who. Igbos don't care about that. The focus is not on the nation but instead the person. and igbos chain of importance goes race-nation-tribe-region-village-family-self from least important to most important. I dont see it as selfish, it's a brave individualism that is found no where in africa.
Does that mean we don't care about that other stuff? no. we believe everything linked to the self is the best. Our country is the best compared to others, our tribe is the best compared to others, our village is best compared to others our family is best compared to others we are the best compared to others. This cellular individualism is one main component to the igbo cultural mindset. Some take it as arrogance when its really an unflinching confidence. To you we will bicker about our differences, but to someone unlike you and i we will defend out commonalities to the death.

2. Igbos believe in merit. We believe every man is born equal until, later in life, they MAKE themselves superior. We, because we believe everyone starts at the same finish line have an heroic optimism about life. Every igbo child believes he can be president. Why not? If an igbo child is falling behind expectation his seniors will often say "your mates are doing _______ while you're here doing ____________". We don't believe one person is born better then another and nothing is out of our reach. Therefore if we see a billionaire we will aim to be a trillionaire.

3. Igbos believe in freedom. We, in our culture have no overlord like institutions like a monarch or a nation. We therefore don't 'do' nationalism. All attempts to incorporate us in a nation in everyone else's definition of what a nation is often fails. We were to most rebellious, by far, during colonialism. Slave narratives show that traders didn't want igbo male slaves cause they had the highest chance of jumping ship, rioting, suicide, or mutiny. We don't like the concept of being ruled or controlled. At the same time we dont aim to rule or control others. We believe that every man is born free and must die that way, that there is man and God and no power in between. It's because of this that igbos are democratic. We believe when an issue arises that everyone should have a say.

4. In the end of the day. We will always be Igbo. Our culture isn't the material things you see around you, the language the dancers ect. Our culture is like water, we are willing the bend and change to suit the time and be the best we can be. I wouldn't be suprised to learn that the language we speak isn't our original language, the cloths we wear aren't our original clothes, and so forth but we will always, as my reading of our history has proven, be the same ppl and do the same things cause its the ideas that define us, not blood

-we'll always value achievement no matter how we define it
-we'll always be prooccupied with the god damn village no matter where we go
-we will always be troublesome
-we will always be arrogant
-we will always shoot for the stars
-we will always be the shit!

Igbo Ukwu, one of the oldest archeological sites in nigeria/africa has jewels from the middle east, The same shit we're spending our money on today LOL.

IGBO KWENU!

Well stated.

The fact remains that the Igbo man stands for justice, equity and fair play. Unfortunately, not everyone that is currently surviving will survive in an atmosphere that is free from sycophancy, hypocrisy, back stabbing and man-know-man.

In my opinion every single person should prefer justice to injustice.

From Radiant

Information officer, please take a chill pill. I call it boasting because you think Nigeria is not that bad only because you enjoy power supply in your area. There are still places in Nigeria that don't have power cables let alone power supply. Just because you enjoy light in your area doesn't mean the whole of Nigeria is the the same.

The government has spent $16 billion dollars on building new power stations and trying to fix transmission grids in the last nine years. What have they achieved? Light in your area?

Please, the situation is very bad and people still live in darkness daily.

You call it boasting because that is the least your brain can process. Information is provided to disprove a misleading information based on facts and the only conclusion is that it is boasting. You are indeed a very smart woman.

Now you talk about $16 billion, this goes to show that you are completely ignorant of the facts and it is the same ignorance that has allowed you to process information wrongly almost all the time.

No $16 billion was used, the total amount of money spent was less than $5 billion and even the same law makers admitted that much and if not for the delay in the power probe (while a lot of turbines were wasting away in different ports) we would have seen an appreciable improvement in power supply.

OBJ though has his faults but when it comes to solving our power supply problem no president or head of state has done more than this man and this is a fact.

So, while your likes rely on rumors, half truths and outright lies to make comments on Nigeria people like us will expose your ignorance anytime we come across them.

From Eziachi

I am sort of disappointed with you Mr. or Mrs. Afam. In all your posting on this particular issue, it’s all about you and only you. And that is typical Nigerian mentality, if I am alright, it mean the country is alright.

In Nigeria you will see their rich men driving in the best choice car swimming it through a gully road and will never see that as an eye sore. He will arrive his mansion, to be greeted and gate opened for him by a guard or a man looking like starved/skinny “Okporoko” from Ethiopia and wearing tore clothes but the big man wouldn’t see anything wrong.

Progress or good tide is not measured by personal comfort of one person but the generality of all people. Its shame to say that it is same source of power that powers Buckingham palace or Downing Street powers the small flat of the least person in England. So it’s not all about you, my good friend, how are your neighbors doing?

Now, you have moved from issues that can be quantified and proven to defender of the masses. Typical Nigerian mentality? Are you a non Nigerian? If yes, then your comment is ok. If no then you are guilty of the same accusation.

Again, you miss the point. Have I told you anything about my personal lifestyle here for you to come to the embarrassing conclusion? The closest thing about me that I have put down here was a proof that power is not almost non existent as many of you who live outside Nigeria would rather have us believe.

I am a realist and have no time for unnecessary lies and sentiments on any issues whatsoever. Do not create diversions. Stick to the issues. Is everyone in the UK connected to the grid? No. Have you burnt down 10 Downing street because of that?

We have over 150 million Nigerians sweating it out to survive and foreigners are trying all they can to get into this country - the same country that a few misguided elements call hell or jungle. Go to airport and see the number of foreigners coming in and the number of Nigerians going out and reconcile the silly statement that you are hell bent on supporting that Nigeria is hell or jungle.

Maybe these foreigners are seeing what you are not seeing. Maybe, your mindset has blinded you to the facts.

From TexMex

Finally, @ AFAM
Please your comments are a sad commentary on your level of intelligence. I had inverter in NIGERIA powered by 6 of the best batteries (Deep-Circle) each costing about =N=45,000 then. I even added generator, but still couldn't use any of my air-conditioners. I sank a bore-hole to make things more comfortable for the staff of my business, but it dried up. What am I saying here? Whereas while electronics and cars are not luxuries per se, inability to get the basic amenities makes owning them a cost center. How many people can afford the added cost of these items?

This is the problem with people that have the type of mindset you have. So, because you could not use your ACs and you sank a borehole that dried up my comments don't make sense?

I will not dwell on the irrelevant question on how many people can afford what you afforded? That has not been the issue. Enough of the diversions please.


@topic,

One thing that is common on this forum is that anytime someone finds it difficult to defend a position he/she turns to insults, lies, diversions etc just to avoid the core issues.

I remember clearly that my first post on this thread was to correct the impression that all Nigerians living outside Nigeria know nothing about Nigeria. I indeed stated that it cannot be all but some.

I also pointed out the fact that those Nigerians living outside Nigeria should stop insulting those of us that are living in Nigeria.

These were the core issues I raised but of course people who have zero integrity had to turn the issues into other things and use the same newly created issues and parameters to debate.

As for those that wonder why their people back home keep complaining and asking for money all the time you should understand that not every family in Nigeria has someone outside that they depend on and some of those that have people would do everything including lies to get money from them.

Meanwhile I am aware of people living outside this country that their families do send money to just to survive even after 2 or 3 years of travelling out.

My position still stands - Nigerians living outside Nigeria should stop insulting Nigerians living in Nigeria. This is simple and this is common sense.

Those that choose to misunderstand, misinterpret or confuse issues should continue but it still goes a long way to show how myopic and ignorant some of us are even when we wrongly assume that once you get outside Nigeria you automatically become a champion.

~Bluetooth:
Diasporians my arse,,are they not nigerians, ,they continue to rubbish the country as if the britikos will come and repair it for us.,these so called "NIDO" go abroad to rubbish nigeria image,,they commit all sorts of crime and when they are about to be killed in libya,saudi or china,then they will remember they have a failed country called nigeria,,they are nothin but dopers,prostitutes,fraudsters,babysitter,only a few had geniue and reasonable job over there.
When the economic meltdown started,americans and other europeans abroad pulled out funds from their operating country to support their govt.,how many nigeria diasporian contributed to the well-being of the nation.,they should just continue their whiteman ass-kissing and leave us here to our faith

Well stated.

It seems some of them use the name calling to ease their frustrations and though understandable is very wrong.

dinggle:
The simplest solution is tht the FG should encourage every Nigerian to generate electricity via wind & solar energy. tax breaks should be given to anyone importing solar equipment, N100,000 naira incentive to anyone capable of not only generating enough solar for self consumption but also enough to add to the national grid, we are looking for electricity in all the wrong place that is why we will never get there. Electricity generation should be decentralised. Individual states should take care of their power supply, so that any state who want to use generators like its done in Gambia can do same.

I have been talking about decentralization of power generation for ages. Even the developed nations encourage distributed energy generation, offer incentives and invest in research.

No nation is completely energy sufficient because energy in itself is a moving target hence the may programs being put in place to manage what is available why trying to reduce the energy demand.

Radiant:
Look at you boasting about having light in your office and well, you can manage the supply at your house. If you understand how much that has been disbursed for power alone then you'd be ashamed to be happy with whatever supply you have in your house.

This is the problem when you get to exchange posts with everyone on a forum. So, stating a fact to disprove a misleading information now amounts to boasting?

Done with you as with this level of reasoning there won't be any end in sight as regards your comments. It is fact that facts make nonsense of your position based on rumor and misinformation.

asha 80:
Afam do you believe that nigeria in the early 80s is better than nigeria of now?

It is not about what I believe. It is about the reality on ground. I don't want us to personalize these issues.

My worry here is the unwarranted name callings, not whether things are ok or not ok.

After all Nigerians living in Nigeria do not insult those living outside Nigeria so why should such insults be condoned?

There are so many parameters that could be used to address your question and some would tilt in the affirmative while others would be in the negative.

It is hard to find a country without its own unique problems.

I know that corruption is rife here. I believe in death penalty for corrupt Nigerians. I believe that Nigerians should have the rights to own small firearms since the police cannot keep guns away from armed robbers. I believe that the average Nigerian does not know his rights and majority of those that know their rights are not ready to defend them. I believe that Nigerians that even complain about corruption contribute to the corruption by giving and taking bribes.

So, I believe in a lot of things just as I believe that the insults from our own brothers and sisters living outside Nigeria are unwarranted and should be condemned by all.

Radiant:
So, only those who live in Nigeria can judge correctly? What a very weak conclusion.

How do you guys living in Nigeria know about what's going on if not for the media? That's also how we get our info and strength to argue.

Besides, what are you guys saying? That the country is not as bad as we see and hear everyday? Got a better picture for us?

As to your first question - YES just as you are in a better position to tell us what is happening in the place you live in.

As to your second question most Nigerians living in Nigeria know enough to know when to disregard the media.

The media can be used and abused depending on who is paying the bills.

Ghana sustained a lie for over a decade about steady power supply in that country and even went a step further to celebrate 10 years of steady electricity fully supported by the government. This was a lie.

It is being stated in the media that power supply is almost non existent but in over 5 years I have never used a generator in my office and hardly use one at home and I don't use solar panels or wind turbines, just inverter backup.

As Majek Fashek sang, he saw beggars on the streets of New York. I have a friend who is very credible who stated he saw Americans pulling their shorts and emptying their bowels on the road.

While we agree that things could (and in fact should) be better in Nigeria no one should be under any illusion here that the developed world is paradise on earth.

I am aware of people who had to die because they could not pay electricity bills in the US and froze to death. I know for certain that there are places and people that are not connected to the grid in the US and all their lives they have generated their own electricity.

The issue is simple - Stop the insults and name calling. Stick to the facts or keep your hands off that keyboard.

@topic,

It is rather sad that just one or two persons have been able to condemn the unnecessary name calling that some Nigerians living outside Nigeria bring to the table anytime they refer to Nigeria and Nigerians and yet the majority of those that have responded are only interested in diverting the issue and blaming it on envy and jealousy.

Give me visa, a free ticket and a place to live and work in the US or UK and I will effortlessly decline.

Funny how some people think that it is every Nigerian that cares or wants to live outside Nigeria.

Every single Nigerian whether living within or outside Nigeria to begin with is a Nigerian, no one can deny that.

No one (even if you are living in the moon) has the right to abuse or insult Nigerians living in Nigeria all in the name of wanting a change for the better in the country. After all Nigerians living in Nigeria are the ones that get to feel every single ill in the society from armed robberies to kidnapping and poor infrastructure.

However, if you are living outside Nigeria and you believe that Nigeria is hell or jungle then be it known that all your relations that live in Nigeria by extension are living in hell.

I worked briefly in the oil and gas and I can categorically tell you that the average American that gets retired while working in Nigeria usually gets back to Nigeria to settle as some of them are even honest enough to state the obvious about the many opportunities they don't have in their own countries.

If Nigeria is good it will benefit everyone, if it is bad it will affect everyone living in Nigeria and even some living outside Nigeria.

State the facts about Nigeria and everyone will be fine.

But unwarranted insults and abuses on Nigerians living in Nigeria based on issues ranging from ignorance to hate or stupidity will not be left unchallenged.

Kobojunkie:
What the ?

ROFLMAO!!!


Dude, guilty conscience much?

I spent the other night debating, well into the wee hours of the morning, this same issue with someone in Nigeria, and then decided to post about it on here, in response to posts by people who seem to hit the nail on the head there with their points. But you decide it is about YOU YOU YOU!!??  I do hope the person I had that discussion with is reading this cause this is hillarious.

If you really believe you owe no one any apology, why do you keep trying to offer one up?? ROFLMAO!!

I only pointed out the cowardice in you. I wasn't in the least discussing or exchanging posts with fraudulent person like you.

That is why they say that a coward will die 1000 times before the actual death. You stink big time.

Kobojunkie:
That is the sad truth of the situation. Millions have somehow convinced themselves that as long as they are running a business or more on generators,  and maybe employ one or two other people, they are contributing their part to solving the Nigerian problem. Personal WEALTH is now interpreted by many as Development, when majority of the cases, the wealth does not even translate to better life for many in their direct communities. Problem is I wonder if they realize that as CIVILIANS that is not even what is required of them in a democratic system.

As usual this bloody coward has come to refer to someone he/she (funny no one is even sure of his/her gender) is afraid to address openly.

I don't work for government and I don't benefit from the government in anyway. I develop software, database driven applications, design inverter backup systems and provide consulting services in areas like virtualization and energy efficiency to those who need them.

I owe this clown no apology for what I do.

Personally, he/she is one hell of a bloody liar who keeps claiming to be working on one IT project or the other and in the process collecting email addresses from people even when he/she asks very basic questions for someone that claims to do this and that.

It is obvious that since people stopped buying laptops from him/her the level of frustration has increased hence his/her constantly bad mouthing of anything Nigeria and Nigerians. In my opinion he/she smells heavily of 419 as his/her ways are too crooked.

If all Nigerians living outside Nigeria are like this clown I would have written more to keep clowns like these where they belong.

kuramo:
Afam.

I believe you are an intelligent and thoughtful person . I'm making this conclusion on the basis of your numerous contributions on Nairaland, but i'm a bit disappointed that you have joined  this half witted debate or should i say attack on the so called Nigerian Diasporians ( or more appropriately Nigerians living abroad ) by certain posters on Nairaland.

It is very unhelpful for a few Nigerians ( who live within the country ) to cast aspersions on the loyalty of those citizens who for so many reasons happen to be based abroad. I personally think it is an unwelcome development for anyone to encourage negative sentiments against their compatriots.

Moreover, it is equally wrong for any Nigerian based abroad to rubbish the opinions of those living in the country because the fact is they have their feet on the ground.

I happen to spend an equal amount of time inside and outside of the country so my interests lie on either side of the fence.

The reason why I contributed on this thread was to state the fact that not all Nigerians living outside Nigeria are guilty of what the original posted is accusing them of.

However, my last contribution was in direct response to the post I quoted which is a typical irrelevant stand that some people base their judgments on just to insult Nigerians that are living in Nigeria.

I cannot label every single Nigerian living outside Nigeria a bad person but I should be allowed to state an obvious fact - many of those that bad mouth Nigeria are not faring better either and they don't qualify to discuss Nigeria when they refer to Nigeria as a jungle or hell.

Bariga1:
Beaf,

Is it that they irritate or the truth irritates you guys living back home in Nigeria?

It is amazing how less than 300,000 corrupt politicians and ex-military officers can hold the country hostage, when we have a population of over 150 million.

Just shows the level of greed pervading our country. People are happy to keep silent as long as they are picking the crumbs from the table.

Change will come with a big bang!!! Watch out!!!!

To be blunt, anyone who keeps screaming CHANGE and hides in foreign lands should be roundly ignored. If you feel so much as to effect change in Nigeria then come down.

You cannot run away from the problem and hope for others to do your bit, clean up your mess or die for you to rush back home to enjoy what is left.

Put your money where you mouth is or stop being a hypocrite.

And you have not been able to change the fact that small white boys can call you a monkey and get away with such.

Abegi make I hear word.

It all boils down to credibility. Unfortunately, many Nigerians believe everything foreigners say.

There is nothing like unlimited disk space. The only unlimited thing you can get is bandwidth and before you get that then you must have paid a decent amount to justify that.

Web hosting software tools come with the feature to allow you list the advertised features and then the actual quotas.

People who find it hard to believe facts usually lose their cash and by the time they understand the facts it is usually late for them.

ogb5:
I need someone to help design a professional looking website for my company.

Website should be able to accept interswitch card payments and is to be linked to real time Company stock data in MS Office Accounting.

If you can do the job send a mail to uniqluuk@yahoo.com

Real time company stock data in MS office accounting linked to the website?

Where will the MS stuff reside?

Beaf:
Only those born and raised abroad.
And yes, they can irritate, but they aren't any less informed; their cultural eyes are just different.

A Nigerian who has lived in more than one country and experienced different views of the same thing (eg technological approaches) can be better placed to deal with issues than a person who lives exclusively in Nigeria.

We have people who constantly refer to Nigeria as "hell", "jungle" etc because they disagree with the way some things are being done. Is this right? And to know that some of them may even be having it very rough in their host countries make such comments laughable.

On facts, of course the advantage of having more than a single view counts.

On falsehood, even if the person has lived in 30 different countries his/her views amount to nothing.

Majority of Nigerians living outside Nigeria that tend to discuss issues concerning Nigeria in my opinion are not at home with the reality on ground and most of the comments coming from these group of people are at best false and half truths.

Sometimes, it seems that all that is required by a Nigerian living outside Nigeria to feel good about himself or herself is to badmouth Nigeria or water down any positive development in the country.

However, not all but majority (based on comments on this forum).

Things may be hard in Nigeria but let us not pretend that even half of Nigerians living outside Nigeria are having it good in the countries they reside.

It is a fact that many Nigerians are equally facing very difficult times and are forced to tolerate insults and treatments just to remain where they are.

So, say it as it is. Things can definitely get better and some of us are doing our best to change what we can.

larimo:
Lagos traffic is primarily caused by the rush of everyone to be available before 8am. I have left my home in Surulere by 8.15am and got to my office in less than an hour because the rush hour was over.

I would like to suggest that the government of Lagos look into the possibility of regimenting the resumption/closing time of all establishments and schools in Lagos. By this I mean that a certain group of workers should resume by 7am and another group by 8am and yet another by 9am. Closing hours can be set for 4pm, 5pm and 6pm. This would lessen significant the 8am/5pm rush.

I am of the opinion that this would help a lot.

Fellow Nairalanders, what do you think? Is this feasible or not?

Actually dont know which group this topic should fall under.

Makes sense. We should be ready to change the way things if need be.

As they say, only a mad man will continue to do the same thing over and over again and yet each time he will expect to see a different result.

Ovation magazine is as guilty as the king makers that give out traditional titles to known corrupt Nigerians from 419ners to looters of public treasury.

If you don't have a channel to showcase the wealth of these people many of them will not be desperate to appear in those channels and when people largely ignore them due to their corrupt nature then it will not be fashionable for them to loot the treasury and flaunt the money the way they currently do.

So, while Ovation is doing what it knows how to do best (which is a legitimate business venture) we must understand that no one in principle is against Ovation or the publisher but what discerning Nigerians are quarreling with is the fact that the publisher is now beginning to sound like someone who does not approve of the corrupt Nigerians even when they freely patronize his magazine and use same to showcase their ill gotten wealth.

It is not about Dele neither is it about Ovation rather it is all about the publisher trying to portray himself as someone who sides with the people whose wealth has been stolen by a few Nigerians who patronizes his magazine.

In less than 3 years Nigeria can build any number of refineries it needs to meet local demand of refined products.

But it seems the plan is not to provide that need locally, maybe the main plan is to keep some people wealthy and rich from importing the finished products.

How can a country as big as Nigeria depend on other countries (some of them as small as some states in Nigeria) to get refined petroleum even when it exports crude to other countries including developed nations?

Nigeria is uniquely and embarrassingly behaving like a confused nation.

Free email account for something as serious as land use tax for a state?

This is shocking!

posakosa:
No matter what; MONOPOLY is not good for any economy.

Monopoly kills innovation.

Monopoly even destroys the business because its growth will remain stunted.

Anybody can make money if he/she is running a business that is based on monopoly.

There is nothing good about monopoly.

Unfortunately, most (if not all) of our business men and women that enjoy such may not be able to survive in an atmosphere of competition.

familierl:
srambbler has just scammed me.he is fake and a cheat.i paid him and he didnt deliver the item.
we dont want people like him in here or in the world.
nairalanders be carefull.

@srambbler:i will give you 24hrs to revert or face the consequences in 11days.its not a threat, but a gaunratee.

And why would you pay money to someone you don't now or have any means of knowing or tracking in case something goes wrong?

To be honest, in our hurry to buy things cheap we make ourselves easy targets for scammers.

rethink:
one of the problems of Nigeria is that we like to be less objective. If it is money that is needed to give us power we have it why dont we spend it?

People claimed that Obasanjo chopped 16billion dollars they forget immediately that could not be possible without the help of Technocrats and Technicians if he really did steal the money he would also need bankers and accountants.

read on NL you would hardly see one particular mention that Obasanjo had a company related to power.

If it is money that is needed to solve the power problem we should have solved it long time ago we have the money. Why was Yar'adua very slow. We dont have a leadership crisis We have a[b] citizen crises[/b].

There was a time that people made statements like

" I dont want to steal small money i want to steal big money"

"If you want to steal read your books and get into power you would steal"

"if you get there you will also steal, Yes If it was me too I will steal so that my generation will never suffer"

"I just want to be where they sign the contract I wont sign if they dont pay me"

You remember the times people did not pay light bills and were illegally connecting?

I will ask anyone if they had 30 billion dollars wether he or she would put it to Power generation with the very likely hood they will not get anything on investment.

There was one man that was so determined to save Nigeria he spent a lot of money and was betrayed by the technocrats.

The whole thing is summed up like this

power plant cost 100 million dollars for the technocrats to agree to work with you they tell you that they want you to quote 500 million dollars, you are a whiteman and you say ah this is robbery but you say this people are not your people so you agree.

The technocrats are made and they even say they dont want to work again fly their families to USA and ko minini. There is a new group of technocrats and they demand money from the contractors the contractors dont give them anything and they say i wont work for another man to chop abeg, They write technical report that the turbine is not specific they sabotage the project because they know that the people before them made alot of money so government must pay for another turbine.

Some are people going to school currently to join this brigade they pray that we dont solve this problem. You will never hear people say anything about the people that approved the contract, but if it is a minister or president that released the money you will hear them talk about it.

We the masses pray for the leadership we get. if you like kill all the leaders that will not solve the problem. The people in the power sector are corrupt and they are waiting for new contracts to be released.

What I think the Solution should be is to take away the federal government from the power sector completely. IT IS LIKE THE TECHNOCRATS ARE HOLDING THE MASSES HOSTAGE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOOLISHLY PAYS THE RANSOME MONEY.

There must be a prerequisite that for you to lift explore crude oil you must

1) have a refinery
2) have a power plants


All the government should do is to tell the states government to build their own transmission line and pay for what they use to the power companies.

I agree with the above.

We need access to information so that the masses will know the facts as against relying on the media that keeps talking about sources that may never be telling us the facts.

If the whole process of selecting and executing contracts is made transparent I am sure a lot of these corrupt middlemen and government guys won't be able to get away with what they do.

It is common to see projects highly inflated just to guarantee feedbacks.

I have had to walk away from projects due to this same issue of kickbacks and inflation of quotes and I have no regrets doing so because I will only end up being a hypocrite if I continue to speak out against corruption while engaging in it myself.

Nigerians should be bold enough to damn the consequences and insist on doing the right thing at all times.

Just a quick observation.

It seems we prefer to be faceless here. Can faceless people change the society? I believe that anyone can hold any view as long as such views are based on facts and the person shows respect to others. While I agree that there is nothing wrong with using screen names but I believe issues from people that can be identified would be taken more serious as against for example one person using multiple usernames.

You can be against the government policies and be free from any sort of harassment by the government or agents of governments.

Another thing is online privacy and invasion of privacy.

On the internet information provided on the internet becomes public or open information so people should be more careful with what they post on the internet especially if they don't want others to know about them than they should be interested in people not posting information that is freely available on the web.

Personal responsibility comes into play here.

bibiking1:
Some interesting discuss arising here. Afam, i am also in agreement with the argument initiated by texaspete, but your analogy stands in contradiction? Probably the biggest factor deterring the fresh graduates from venturing into the world of entrepreneurs is the failure of the government to establish a conducive environment for businesses to thrive

If the government refuses to provide an enabling environment nko just as it is doing now what happens? Are we going to just give up and die?

Necessity is the mother of invention. In my opinion and based on experience I believe that the average Nigerian is looking for money where the competition is at the highest.

Someone tried to mock me by stating that I design websites and I said i was very proud of that because if I can setup a fully functional e-commerce website for Nigerians at the rate of even N30,000.00 (N150,000.00 to about N300,000.00 is typical anyway) everyday then it means that I can be sure of N900,000.00 per month. In doing this, I report to nobody, I wake up when I want to and go to the office when I want.

So, while people may look down on some jobs the irony is that in most cases people who prepare for work and leave there homes before 5.00am and don't get back to their homes until around 10.00pm every working day may be making a fraction of what a newspaper vendor, okada rider or bus driver is making in a month even though they don't get to wear suits all day.

My point is that we are too interested in working in establishments instead of looking for services to render that will not only fill a void somewhere but would allow you work at your own pace while adding value to the society and making money in the process.

While in the oil and gas I could count the total number of young guys who are foreigners as over 80% of the foreigners are above 40 while some are farther from 50 years than closer to it.

Meanwhile, the average fresh graduate is dreaming of working in oil and gas or bank. Who do you leave to work in the civil service? Those who have little options, those who want to go to work by 10.00am and leave by 2.00pm because they want to combine the work with another personal business.

In years to come these civil servants will grow through the ranks and become the decision makers in the society. They will determine where to site schools, hospitals or even roads while those who could have done well in these areas may still be working or retiring in the same environment where the not too good/lucky guys (strictly in terms of getting juicy work) will be taking decisions that will affect their lives and that of their children.

I cannot excuse the many unfortunate problems of the government but to fold our hands and do nothing but complain is even worse especially for people that had the opportunity to get educated.

What does it take to build a generator or wind turbine? What about IT related services that one can learn by reading and practicing?

texazzpete:
The belief that our leaders are the bane of Nigeria is the reason why we are in this sorry state.
We have corrupt leaders, but our leaders are no more corrupt than millions of Nigerians in all levels in the society.
This absurd belief that the problem lies with our leaders prevents the honest few from taking any actions to better Nigeria in their own spheres of influence.

I agree with this. There is an overwhelming dependence on the government from the fresh university graduate who is looking for a job to the civil servant and the politician that believes that without the government he cannot make money or become rich or comfortable.

We have electrical engineers that cannot even explain how electricity works yet artisans are contributing their own quota and sustaining the economy while graduates who should put their knowledge into good use are busy carrying their CVs from one establishment to the other.

Even petty traders on the roadsides these days are doing more than the educated ones who are waiting for vacancies in the banks, oil companies and telecoms.

chidichris:
read through all my write ups here and u will see how many times i have mentioned this particular criminal's name but today, the worthy woman has done what the slowpoke man could not do.

Read through your write ups? Never! Seeing some of your comments is punishment enough due to the incoherent nonsense you put down.

bawomolo:
what did OBJ and ribadu do to you?

Ask him ooo. He cannot complete a post without writing OBJ's name. As Ribadu stated, when you fight corruption corruption fights back. Maybe Ribadu been affect the guy's business.

Jakumo:
Once intercepted, the proceeds of crime are best deployed to fight crime, conveniently lightening the burden on state resources.  This pragmatic philosophy is exemplified by the way the US Drug Enforcement Agency retains a HUGE chunk of the raw cash and asset forfeiture income accrued from narcotics busts, to further the cause of apprehending and neutralizing narco-cowboys, whose insidious products and violent conduct so poison societies.

Providing that the innocent are never framed, Nigeria's FCC Fraud Squad deserves to keep a full 50% of the embezzled loot they trace and seize, so that more advanced surveillance technology, vehicles and weapons can be procured to tip the scales in the favor of the victimized majority, by facilitating the investigation, pursuit and brutal sanction of all those who plunder national wealth in ways that indirectly inflict so many more casualties than could ever be claimed by a mere substance abuse epidemic.

GBAM!

Lwandle:
How come I can only see silly Tudors responses n none of the others?

e.g Afam is listed as last respondent but whn i open i dont see his reply!

Is someone burning roots for me?

I think it's the spam filtering software being used by the forum that is responsible for this.

Tudór:
Oh shut up will ya?
Afam has never been known to say anything sensible but his Anti-American and Anti-semitic hate speeches.

Of course, anyone that does not worship America or Israel like you shamelessly do is anti this and that. You need help.

The focus should solutions derived from programming languages and not bragging about programming languages.

You may know everything about a programming knowledge without being able to use that programming knowledge to develop anything useful.

And this is where we fail. All theory and no practical solutions. Technology in itself can't do much, it is what you make out of it that matters.