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SportsRe: FIFA 2014 World Cup Draw In Brazil by Afam4eva(m): 8:27pm On Dec 05, 2013
I pray we're grouped with England. God, pls answer this prayer IJN.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Calling Hiv Tve To Step Out Under Video Cov. by Afam4eva(m): 8:22pm On Dec 05, 2013
Can you be a little bit more lucid pls.
CultureRe: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by Afam4eva(op): 6:30pm On Dec 05, 2013
@Pharoh
You made a mistake with your ethnologue source. That page divided the Igboid groups into two - Ekpeye and Igbo. Under the Igbo(not Igboid) classification, that's where you have Ikwerre, Ukwuani etc. Incidentally, you have Ezza and Izzi which are undoubtedly Igbo groups under that grouping. They're invariably saying that Ukwuani is a language under the Igbo umbrella and not just Igboid.
CultureRe: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by Afam4eva(op): 6:14pm On Dec 05, 2013
Pharoh: This is a link for the yoruboid language http://www.ethnologue.com/subgroups/yoruboid

Study it and you will now understand the igboid language grouping that i have posted here before.

I have posted the meaning of igbo but you were surprised that igbo is an ethnic group inside the generic igbo term. Ika is an ethnic group and Ukwuani is an ethnic group, both of them are different from the igbo ethnic group. Now to show that the three of them are related, you have to find a common name for them the same way germanic was used to show the relation between german and dutch. the mistake was to use igbo to show the relation, it could be any fucking name like laptop, biafra or whatever and that is not the concern of Ikas or ukwuanis. This is because no matter the name you call it Ika will always go with Ika and ukwuani will always go with Ukwuani.

Inside delta state we are Ika and ukwuani, Inside anioma we are ika and Ukwuani, inside Bendel we are Ika and ukwuani and inside whatever we will always be Ika and ukwuani and not igbo.
You see not to understand the Igbo concept at all. What is wrong in Igbo(which is not the name of any Igboid tribe) being used to describe the Igboid groups? It's not like using Onitsha to refer to all of us. There's no place called Igbo, so no group has exclusive rights to that name more than anyone else. Of course we could name the group Laptop, Bia or we could also name it Igbo. I wonder why you guys are apprehensive about the term "Igbo". Ika will always be Ika, Ukwuani will always be Ukwuani, Same with Nkanu, Ngwa, Ikwerre but these people can be under the Igbo umbrella which is more like an Association of like minded peeps. That's what the whole concept of Ethnicity is. That's why it's a different concept from tribe.
TV/MoviesRe: Why Are Nollywood Movies Always So Delusional? by Afam4eva(m): 6:02pm On Dec 05, 2013
I've always wondered by people portrayed as villagers speak good english with a foreign accent.
CultureRe: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by Afam4eva(op): 5:28pm On Dec 05, 2013
Pharoh: You are the one confusing yourself, Austrian is the ethnicity while Austrian German is the language they are speaking. It is very funny that you have conveniently avoided to analyze the other ethnic groups within the Germanic identity. Now let me throw it to you, so do the other Germanic people speak German, a dialect of German or their own separate language but part of the Germanic language family?.

Germans are Germans but they speak a Germanic language ( German ) , dutch are dutch but they speak a Germanic language ( Dutch ) .

Ikas are are Ikas but they speak an igboid language ( Ika ) , Ukwuani are ukwuanis but they speak an igboid language ( Ukwuani ).

Now tell us your ethnic group and your language group classification like i have done for germans, dutch, Ikas and Ukwuanis.
It brings us back to your earlier assertion about Ika and Ukwuani not wanting to be part of the Igbo ethnic umbrella. I will respect that rather than you trying to convince us how Ikas are different from the Igbos in the east cos that's a hard sell.

I could also say that i am Nkanu but we speak an Igboid language(Nkanu). Now we have to try to differentiate between Igbo and Igboid. What's the difference?
CultureRe: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by Afam4eva(op): 4:22pm On Dec 05, 2013
Pharoh: This is slightly true and because Germans respect their decision hence they are regarded as a separate Germanic ethnic group today and speak Austrian German and not German. This is the same respect the igbos do not want to regard to other groups within the igbo cluster and this is the whole issue about the identity stuff.

Germanic People
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_peoples

Germanic Languages
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_languages

Igboid - http://archive.ethnologue.com/16/show_family.asp?subid=2109-16


Generic term Ethnic groups

Germanic - German, Austria, Dutch, Luxembourg, Lichtenstein
Igbo/igbonic/igboic - Ika, Ukwuani, Ogba, Epkeye, Ikwerre, Ezaa, Igbo, Izii

The above is so simple to understand and if you people cannot understand this classification then it is of no point having this discussion anymore seriously.
Stop confusing yourself. Austrian German and German are the same culturally but different politically. If you ask an Austrian what ethnicity he is, he'll tell you German and will only ass Austrian if he wants to specify. If Austria and Germany were the same country, there will be no need to call it Austrian German as it will only be seen as a dialect of German, the same way the German spoken in different parts of Germany are not exactly the same. Another reason why someone would refer to himself as an Austrian German is because referring himself to a German will confuse people into thinking that he's from Germany. So, he has to highlight the difference.
WebmastersRe: Is No Longer Functioning! by Afam4eva(m): 3:49pm On Dec 05, 2013
It works here. I posted an advert about 5 days ago and it was posted.
CultureRe: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by Afam4eva(op): 3:04pm On Dec 05, 2013
Pharoh: ^^

Yoruba is not a place same way germanic is not a place so i don't know why you are getting worked up about that. Is igala and itsekiri that are classified as yoruba speaking yoruba language? oyo was the largest in that group and they were speaking oyo but colonislist called it yoruba and then used it to name the group. Assuming the name of the group was oyo then the egbas will not want to be called that hence the yoruba name was perfect for them and they can all key in to it.

I ethnic group listed as igbo are the igboid speaking groups that do not have a clear ethnic identity or social structure before the whiteman came. So the white man named you guys igbo and gave you the igbo language name and in other to show relations to others with a defined social structure still used that igbo term to classify us. This is the group that were arranged as series of viliages and clans without a defined political structure like they met in other parts of Nigeria. It is you guys that are actually convincing things because if you look clearly you would have seen how germanic was broken down and the name derived from german which is the largest group in that classification.


This is a link to show you where the classification came from http://www.joshuaproject.net/people-clusters.php so you can mess with the link and check numerous groups yourself if you are still in doubt.
Austria is a nationality and not a language. According to wikipedia, the language spoken by Austrians is German. Austrians may have a different nationalistic feel different from Germany(the country) but culturally, they're Germans(not just Germanic). They're called Austrian Germans despite the fact that they're in a different country.
CultureRe: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by Afam4eva(op): 1:56pm On Dec 05, 2013
^^^

Here we go again. There was never a place called Yoruba and they did not pick the language of the biggest Yoruba group as other groups spoke Yoruba. It's the same with Igbo. I saw you listing groups that are Igboid and you listed Igbo and i ask you, which group in the SE is called Igbo? Where are they located? Which largest Igbo group was there language taken? I'll advise that you desit from speaking about what you obviously don't have an idea about.
AutosRe: A Good Condition Nissan Quest For N270,000.....more pictures by Afam4eva(m): 8:58am On Dec 05, 2013
Pls, how much does an okada cost?
FamilyRe: Please Pray For Babyosisi's Dad by Afam4eva(m): 7:57am On Dec 05, 2013
Thank God it went well.
AutosRe: A Good Condition Nissan Quest For N270,000.....more pictures by Afam4eva(m): 6:38am On Dec 05, 2013
Yours GEJ,:
Which one be naija mentality? If the motor be the best, why them make new model?
It doesn't work like that.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis Puts On Costume To Sneak Out Of Vatican To Help The Homeless by Afam4eva(m): 11:15pm On Dec 04, 2013
The most humble pope ever. I hope our pastors down here can have at leat 1% of his humility.
TV/MoviesRe: Big Brother Africa "The Chase" Official Thread by Afam4eva(m): 11:13pm On Dec 04, 2013
This thread has been derailed beyond redemption...

I heard that there won't be a BBA next year. Instead, they're having one for South Africa. These DSTV/MNET people are dull sha.
CelebritiesRe: Nairalanders With Bovi And Basketmouth by Afam4eva(m): 11:08pm On Dec 04, 2013
So these two are sisters afterall. This is pasha. I will not gree grin
Nairaland GeneralRe: Beware Of Pick Pocket Guys At Fagba Bus Stop-iju Ishaga Axis by Afam4eva(m): 10:54pm On Dec 04, 2013
Hmmm...With the kind faces wey i dey see from Pen Cinema to that fagba, person go know say na there many criminals get base.
RomanceRe: Late Bloomers! How Difficult Was It For You? by Afam4eva(m): 10:52pm On Dec 04, 2013
vickyO: Lie!!
#True
RomanceRe: Late Bloomers! How Difficult Was It For You? by Afam4eva(m): 10:50pm On Dec 04, 2013
adaobi123: shocked shocked angry sad shocked
I meant team Virgin Cream. Do you know the cream?
RomanceRe: Late Bloomers! How Difficult Was It For You? by Afam4eva(m): 10:46pm On Dec 04, 2013
#TeamVirgin
CelebritiesRe: Dayo Amusa Opens School In Ibadan (Photos) by Afam4eva(m): 9:55pm On Dec 04, 2013
Polio: PayDab? WTF
It must sound Oyiboish by fire by force.
PoliticsRe: Iceland Police Kills Somebody For The First Time Ever by Afam4eva(m): 9:45pm On Dec 04, 2013
PoliticsRe: Why I Snubbed PDP Offer, By Edo Widow by Afam4eva(m): 9:26pm On Dec 04, 2013
Oshiomole probably told her to say it. But shey PDP sef no get shame? Shey na 250k dem wan take win back Edo state. I was expecting them to double or triple Osho's offer. Shameless party.
TV/MoviesRe: Who Is The Strongest 'Super Hero' So Far? by Afam4eva(m): 9:19pm On Dec 04, 2013
sarutobie: Well in terms of brute power,he is the flagbearer for DC and hulk is the flagbearer for Marvel comics..but brute force alone won't cut it against celestial beings who can wish away your existence on a whim.
That guy is soo strong that he can carry a pack of evil spirits with one hand grin
TV/MoviesRe: Who Is The Strongest 'Super Hero' So Far? by Afam4eva(m): 9:09pm On Dec 04, 2013
It seems to me that no one can be stronger than Superman. Superman is too super that there's nothing he cannot lift. Is it an Aeroplane, A ship, skyscraper etc.
CelebritiesRe: Unknown Facts About Some Nigerian Celebrities by Afam4eva(m): 9:06pm On Dec 04, 2013
Did you know that Timaya was a backup singer for Faze?

Did you know that Omotola married at the age of 17?

Did you know Genevieve was a presenter with LTV before she became an Actress?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Sunderland Vs Chelsea (3 - 4) On 4th December 2013 by Afam4eva(m): 9:03pm On Dec 04, 2013
#Sunderland4life
TravelRe: The Ibadan Chino And Tosin7 Didn't Know... by Afam4eva(m): 5:30pm On Dec 04, 2013
Bishop Magic: That is like saying Albion FC is not that bad because they won at least one game in a season.
So, Ancient = bad in your dictionary?

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