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i agree most of d players did rily well.
de gea was more solid in aerial situations and was blameless for the 2 goals
rafael is becoming mr dependable and evra seems more interested in defending these days than just bombing down d flank.
rio n evans is a good partnership and smalling is an able deputy.
however i believe a major factor in our surviving their periods of domination was the solidity offered by carrick and cleverly in midfield(carrick's postioning and judicious use of the ball and cleverly's running and ability to both see d pass and also make himself available for d pass).
rooney had a few poor touches midway tru d 2nd half but overall was very impressive,young had his best game in a long while,RVP was a bit quiet but was involved in d buildup to one goal and scored d winner.

montelik: Saw this on-line.

nice! yeah i know u cant teach an old dog new tricks.i am not expecting him to go on slalom runs with the ball on his left foot but the occasional left foot cross( or even the threat of using it) and the occasional left foot pass to a team mate just 5 yards away would be nice.he does practically NOTHING with his left foot and ALL his opponents know this
PLUS even giggsy modified his game at an older age and was able to remain effective(and i am not talking about the giggs of the last 2years o)

i remember saying last season valencia had to develop his game especially when forced to go to his left.there is a limit to how far he can go with this his "kori to the right" style.....just too one dimensional

Ice4jez: slimyem its obvious dat u re the type of woman who dont accept that she is wrong even when its pretty clear which shows dat ur boyfriend is in big shit if u ve one n if u re married i dont envy ur husband.insulting a newborn baby n still justifying ur words.u make me sick n ashamed to be yoruba like u.and i bet its girls like u dat do the worst but soon ur time will come

dats d problem

slimyem: I don't take my words back...
My callousness is justified as you do not understand how much and how many equally INNOCENTS,DECENTS and UPRIGHTS the likes of the debated and their shameless lives which birthed this discussion have stained irredeemably.
Even the bible says HE will visit the sins of the fathers upon the son up till the third generation...
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....or are you not one of the men of the school of thought that ALL Nigerian girls are BB-chasing,Sugar-daddy loving, Brazillian-hair crazy,slutty and can do anything for money?
This is one of the ways i can vent,please let me!

1) THE BIBLE said that,are YOU now the voice of God? so u r visiting the sins of Bisi on her baby? how nice of you.
2)lets apply facts and logic here,wat makes you think i believe ALL nigerian girls r sluts? hav i given u any reason to believe that? some of the most brilliant classmates i had were girls who were also decent and i as a rule NEVER GENERALIZE.
3)also ur words look a bit angry,there has to b reason for that.but pls dont let prior experiences turn u to b dat angry black woman.
lastly i repeat that there is no reason why you should ABUSE A BABY no matter what the parents have done to u
P.S saying "i dont take back my words",thats pride talking and not reason.i am not saying u should flip flop like Romney but everybody is wrong once in a while,and we should all have the humility to accept when we made a mistake.

slimyem: MAYBE I WAS CALLOUS but i had my reason and i don't care if anyone feel it right or not.
If the deranged goats up there had an issue with my post,they'd have taken your route.
Contrary to what you thought their reasons were for barking,its more because of the likes of the debated that has made them see every woman like the b1tches in their lives .
Somebody questioned my post sanely and i answered appropriately just like i have you.

well its gud we try to depart from this INSULTVILLE dt NL has become.u agreed u may have been callous,as long as u remember u were callous towards THE INNOCENT BABY and not the parents.apart from DAMIEN and ROSEMARY'S BABY i can't think of any baby that deserves abuse at birth .insult the parents all u like,but the baby? i have taken delivery of possibly hundreds of babies and the one thing that strikes me every time is how INNOCENT and HARMLESS we all are at birth.
no matter how its spun,saying a newborn baby is going to be a slut or LovePeddler is a terrible thing to say

@slimyem i believe u got the response u got cos of d callous way you implied an innocent newborn baby was going to b wayward or a slut....
ur anger against the mother is understood by many but that shouldn't extend to u talking abt a baby in such a mean manner.
and regarding the apple not falling far from d tree there r countless examples in history of children who were polar opposites of their parents in both positive and negative ways.lastly who are we to judge,especially when the person we are judging is a day old baby who is yet to master breathing?

with this formation we control the midfield better and also protect the back 4 better,problem with it is that most of our creativity goes out the window as well.
its really a 4-3-1-2 (with Rooney being the 1 behind chicharito n RVP) NO WINGERS and a very strong central midfield

omo una no go kill person o.by now its its obvious dat the views of both sides is set in stone,so whats the point of the endless back n forth?

hmmm

Baby mama: See love

LOL i am a lover not a fighter
but seriously all this insulting up n down usually derails beta debate

you are welcome. i knew just wanted a clean respectful debate on d issue,however NL is no longer like that.we r all guilty anyway,i sometimes find myself sucked into the maelstrom of insults n ripostes too.
cheers n good to know i convinced u

and ticklishmummy pharmacies are allowed to and should stock rohypnol,it is just a sedative/anxiolytic/muscle relaxant like Valium and Lexotan.
stocking it on their shelves in no way contravenes the law and they shouldn't b vilified for that.their error was handing it to those guys without prescription(and by the way there a 1001 ways those guys could have come by a prescription too if they had to).
lets look at what really happened here.
1)the pharmacists sold SLEEPING TABLETS to someone without prescription.an unethical and unprofessional act which nevertheless is carried out by possibly more than 50 percent of pharmacies in the country.
is this the same as MURDERING or CONSPIRING TO MURDER someone? NO
2)lets not forget that this drug did not actually cause this poor woman's death,she was BEATEN to death.
the moment Cynthia was in the hotel room with those beasts she was doomed.what that drug did was enable them to rape her repeatedly,they would have beaten her to death with or without the drug

Ticklishmummy: £

Thank you very much for this.I realised there were some really insightful comments on this thread and they did make a point.I do not claim to be perfect but that is not an excuse for anyone to insult me,I take objection to that and would not condone it.
We can all make meaningful contributions and make others see the point we are trying to make without being spiteful.In the part of the world where I stay,things like this are not taken lightly.I am pretty sure no matter how little it might have been they would have gotten some correctional purnishment (and their licence revoked immediately)because their carelessness has indirectly contributed to loss of life and it should serve as a warning to other who ply this line of trade.I might have come across as being sentimental in my line of reasoning but that should never be percieved as a weakness which is what has happened today on this thread.
So what if these guys had their licence revoked and then they go to another part of the country,open a chemist and they start these whole isshh again,cos by then anyway they wouldn't be liable for anything that happens to anyone(afterall they already have their licence revoked) so whose fault would it be?Truth is issues like these have to be properly addressed with a view to avoiding a further occurrence,its not like 100 people were involved in this case which means if they had to narrow the people involved they will still be named because they chose(as they would probably have always done) to sell controlled drugs without insisting on a prescription.
All being said,since there is so much faith in the pharmaceutical council I can only wait and see how this whole thing turns out but I honestly hope I would not have to say "but I said it then..."

well stated but i dont agree fully with you.cos its not the job of a judge to correct the mistakes of the Nigerian system.the judge can't say "oh because i know PCN won't do a good job in punishing this 2 men for NEGLIGENCE and MALPRACTICE and because i know they won't ensure these guys do not practice again if stripped of their licence i should convict them of MURDER".
things are not done like that.u can't wrongfully convict a man of a greater crime cos u suspect he will go unpunished for a lesser crime.

pls let the insults stop,its nt achieving anything.
@ticklish i am not trying to insult u or anything but don't u think its wrong to just say "this is my opinion and i am not willing to listen to any other point of view"? u should read the posts of the guys i mentioned earlier i.e coogar,babymama e.t.c on dis matter.and an informative and useful discourse would be achieved if u respond to those that have outlined d reasons why they disagree with you rather than responding to those who are just exchanging insults with u

[quote author=ESULAALU]Perhaps if we had to look into how Micheal Jackson's life ended then we might be able to pick some similarites no matter how small it is.

Look,let me tell you something,its so easy to judge from afar,if any one us commenting now was in that family's shoe,we will leave no stone unturned to ensure that those guys get purnished for that misdeed and we might possibly be looking at a jail term for them here.

Whether you like it or not or choose to accept, they have sold controlled drugs over the counter which has ultimately led to loss of life,whether or not other factors were involved is an addition,the drugs served as the foundation.This they could have avoided if they had done the right thing. I almost lost my life, in this same Nigeria all thanks to a 'qualified doctor' prescibing a drug which was already banned in most european countries all cos they wanted to control my blood pressure.So what would do you think my children would have done if I lost my life? Do you think the doctor would not have been held accountable? Forget about malpractice now,many people lost their lives because of things like this(I just had to tell my story) and it has to be addressed and as as matter of fact not just by the pharmaceutical council alone cos if they revoke their licence how about the millions of other chemists turned pharmicists over night,who sell postinor to pregnant women when it should be a contraceptive?



esulaalu lets get some things straight
1)michael jackson was killed by the dangerous cocktail of drugs including Propofol and some BZDs (not rohypnol in case u were wondering )
2)u were almost killed by the dangerous drug prescribed by the doctor.thank God u survived and recovered
3)Rohypnol DID NOT KILL Cynthia,she was bludgeoned to death! no matter how it is twisted these guys messed up but there r not murderers.
the law is specific,u cant just charge and convict everybody who did something wrong in a series of terrible actions for the worst crime of one of the perpetrators.
4)it seems there is even no evidence to show that those particular pharmacists were the specific ones who sold the drugs to the killers.

people just comment out of wild emotion or sometimes ignorance.Alcohol is the the most common date rape substance being used between 4 to 6 times as much as ALL benzodiazepines put together(and rohypnol is just one of several BZDs).
remember that this is a drug which is used to treat insomnia,anxiety e.t.c and this is is the use to which it is most put to.those guys could have as well used Lexotan or Valium or GULDER to incapacitate the girl,would people still come here to ask the pharmacists be charged for murder for selling Valium or BEER to customers? they should be punished NO DOUBT but for the right offence and by the appropriate authority.a murder charge is akin to killing an ant with an axe

esulaalu i don't get ur point in ur 2nd paragraph.so do u mean they should be convicted of murder(which they are innocent of) cause they might be acquitted of negligence n malpractice(which might be their real misdeed)?

esulaalu n ticklishmama pls read the posts of babymama and coogar

ESULAALU: I have been an avid follower of this site for a while now and I couldnt help but open an account to comment on this topic.

Ticklishmummy must have envisaged this will happen hence her saying crucify her if you like,well said there missus and she rightly also said, she does not understand which means whatever gaff she might have committed should be rightly excused but we are all so so apt on this forum to throw verbal jibes at each other all because it is a faceless forum and the Nigerian mentality is such that it allows no room for regard or reference.

Citing examples of someone selling a car or knife does not apply here if you must know and everyone is making excuses and comparison but have you stopped to think of the torture the poor lady went through before she died? What if she was my sister,your sister,your cousin or mine?

Nigerians will just never cease to dissapoint me,sending insults across the web simply cos its a faceless forum,too bad!

Am out of here and I will have to say to ticklishmummy,''only reply the insults if you are stupid''

In the western world do you think this your examples would apply? No,cos there are rules in place that would not even allow for many examples you are citing.My people please be wise and read in between the lines before you comment.

these things happen everywhere western world o,eastern world o ati be bee lo.and like i said even in cases where guns are procured(from licenced gun merchants) without due process by people who later use the guns to kill people they are not charged to court for murder or being accesorry to murder.and these are cases in which the GUNS WERE THE ACTUAL MURDER WEAPON!
rohypnol did not cause that young lady's death,it was used to incapacitate her.if those criminals had used the rohypnol on her and robbed her as they did without touching her she would still be alive now.i maintain that the pharmacists have a case to answer but should be with the PCN and its most definitely not a murder case

those calling for the heads of the pharmacists should remember that Rohypnol wasn't what was used to kill the poor girl,it was just used to incapacitate her.Also there seems to be no proof that these guys conspired with the actual killers or knew of their plans.These guys have a case to answer not with the police but with the Pharmacists Council of Nigeria.
Negligence or some other malpractice issue but definitely not murder.in the US u hear of cases where guys buy firearms without due process and go on killing sprees thereafter,in those cases the gun merchants are not tried for murder or as accessories(and these r guys who sold the actual murder weapon o).The practice of selling prescription drug is widespread in Nigeria and not an indication of criminal character just negligence and disregard for ethics.and people should read more about the drug,it is a normal benzodiazepine like Valium and Lexotan which have similar properties and r useful in treating insomnia,anxiety,convulsions and even skeletal muscle spasms.it is NOT a murder weapon and was NOT USED as such in this case

wooton is a bit one paced and a liability in open spaces though he is strong and a decent man marker.overall i have more hopes for keane who still has a lot of growing to do physically and is more comfortable on the ball.
buttner looks a liability in 1 v 1 situations and i am not sure of his composure.
fletcher had a decent game and i am just happy to see him getting closer to full fitness
rafael and anderson were real beasts,giggs brought some composure to our game and chicharito seems to be slowly adding good hold up play to his finishing ability
tunnicliffe is a decent tackler but has to improve on wat he does with the ball,powell has to improve on his work rate.
nani! o nani,frustrating display capped with a wonder goal

nateevs: The ref sent them off.

i no fit laff! i think you are right,don't mind the person that claimed it wasn't d ref dt sent them off but Abramovic who sent them to buy Alomo bitters

coded guy: Am not even worried about the decisions taken by the ref. These things even out over the course of the season or even beyond. Am just upset at the manner we approach games these days.

Its either we conceed goals early b4 we wake up or play a good first half only to start strolling in the 2nd half. The inconsistency is annoying, how we manage to stay with the top teams is amazing.

With 9 men I was still very uncomfortable. IS THIS REALLY UNITED?

I feel you bro.cleverly was rily careless with the ball today,trying fancy back heels and flicks deep in his own half.he also has to work on his work rate and stamina and most definitely defensive positioning AND how come he allowed ramires to bully him for the equalizer? we know ramires can run from lagos to malumfatori but outjumping and manhandling people is another thing

Chelsea fans shouldn't be too sour about this.their team has shown itself to have d talent and toughness to ball with the best in the EPL and possibly go all the way.concerning the officiating Chelsea have been d beneficiaries of countless dubious decisions against United in more crucuial matches including title deciders,so why are some fans wailing?

i saw that too,he took a step towards his left and then had to adjust and dive right.having said that mata's shot was very well placed

2 men up and chasing a victory i would have preferred Scholes coming on rather than Giggs in central midfield.however with the way Chelsea with their 9 men still controlled play maybe Scholes would have been a liability too TWO MEN UP

very poor performance by the boys.
we ceded the midfield to them,were careless with our passing and we failed to track the movements of those boys.now the match is over we thank God for the 3 points,but it reveals the weakness in the team

jhydebaba: My Blood Is Blue!!! Up Chelsea!!!

bros as a chelsea fan e be like say u don shack dry gin/shekpe,u no see signboard? u r on the wrong club thread

u better start polishing ur gun cos i suspect one of them will start tomoro,probably giggs.we can escape with starting one of them but starting both would be suicide.

my line up is similar to urs ,only difference is at d LW position.truth be told any of giggs,buttner or welbeck will do for me(giggs or buttner preferably) allowing welbeck,chicharito and nani to be able to come on from d bench if needed.

dayokanu: Afrodoc,

Where have you been? Can you check the chelsea thread, we need some of your informed input

DK u know how it is na,work has bin a bit hectic lately.after work hours just too tired to comment,i just read posts.meanwhile where u dey get those ur songs for arsenal thread?