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and i am sure giggs and valencia were crossing to same strikers.
as a winger u study the idiosyncrasies of your striker and his movements and deliver the ball accordingly NOT vice versa

coogar: this is the formation that should play against man city. if rooney is still feeling rusty, he should stay with his son. kagawa orchestrating things from the edge of the box would be needed.

fellaini & carrick must sit. they should let the four forward players and 2 of the wing backs provide the needed support. we have fellaini now, kagawa's work rate defensively should reduce.




let's just say we have been shyte at making crosses count. this is why we need to know what we are doing. if we want wing-play with wingers pouring crosses into the net, then one of hernandez & welbeck has to play. if we want intricate play in & around the edge of the box then kagawa/RVP/rooney must play.

i have looked at young's crosses graphically, our strikers have more than enough time to read the flight of the ball and connect with the crosses. rooney used to stand at the far post for the eventuality of everyone missing the ball & coming to him.

I have said it several times that our wing play has been poor and Young has been one of the primary culprits.
all those guys have been crossing to about the same group of people why is it that his ratio is so distinctly poor?
just try and be fair,if u notice i dont have any permanent favourites amongst the players.i criticize and praise depending on their performance.

a winger who has made one accurate cross out of 20 needs to check himself.
his cross accuracy is 5% for crying out loud!
how come he has made 3 times the number of crosses giggs has made but giggs has 3 times the number of accurate crosses he has?
u blame our strikers and u checked his crosses graphically right? are they singling him out for failure? do they hate him?

coogar: it's not long enough for opta to count as a long pass.



how are they worse than rooney? rooney had a longer time to improve his performance against a tiring palace side that went a man down since the first half. if rooney was taken off at the time young went off, your tune would be different.



a beautiful cross can be floated into a box and if no player connects it, it would be deemed inaccurate. if a fluked cross gets floated and a striker manages to connect with it, it's an accurate cross.

in a nutshell, what makes a cross accurate depends on the recipient. the crosser does not know if his cross would be met by an opposing defender or his teammate. they just cross & hope for the best.

then Ashley Young must be specially unlucky cos this season he has made 20 crosses and only ONE was accurate!
Valencia TWO out of 16
RVP and Rooney THREE out of 15
Evra FIVE out of 13
even Ryan Giggs THREE out of 7
Oh poor Ashley Young ,why is he so unlucky? when he crosses everybody just walks away,even RVP

the long pass over the top that RVP wasted by blasting against the crossbar comes to mind.not his fault that RVP left his shooting boots in the dressing room

also since the stats of RVP and Young are obviously worse than Rooney's why are you on Rooney's case and letting those two off the hook.

Ashley Young 8 crosses and NONE was accurate.a winger!

RVP 7 crosses and NONE was accurate

coogar: if he's not supposed to play today why was he in the team? surely, hernandez could have started with van persie floating in the hole. it beats me when english media make ready made excuses for rooney.

play rooney too much then he's fatigued, laboured & overplayed. use rooney scantily, then he's rusty, 0% match-fitness or he needs more time to get back into the team.

Rooney had 5 accurate long balls out of 6, 1 accurate through pass out of 1, 2 accurate crosses out 8( RVP had 0 out of 7 and your Ashley Young had 0 out of 8 ..a winger o SMH).

Rooney also had a goal and the highest player rating from whoscored.com..........he did ok

P.S Rooney had 4 key passes...highest in the team

elampiro: Overall, we weren't impressive against 10 men. However we can console ourselves when we consider even in SAF era we have had times we struggle to get off the block and ended up with the title. With time, the players will get used to the new tactics and improve in attacking creativity.

Felliani looks so good an added value.

Januzaj will be good, but one needs to see him do this for a long time before be shout hurrah.

RVP is sometimes selfish. Over confidence that 'I alone can do it'.

Rooney is expected to play more than he did today. I think with time we will get him back.

I agree.fellaini had a decent and comfortable debut albeit against 10-man minnows

januzaj definitely is not the finished article yet BUT if he keeps posting good performances like this some of those senior players need to worrry about their shirt.Moyes wants to win to keep his job and he has no history or special loyalty young,valencia etc

RVP had a poor match.when he is not scoring he needs to do more to influence the game

Rooney didnt do too badly,but that air shot was ugly

no be by just physique o!

silva,mata and co are not the biggest lot but they are doing ok.
the guy has great touch and technique and he has got vision and passing to back it up.and dont forget he is 18,he will get bigger

even with his physique u want to tell me u have not been impressed with his performances so far?

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Coogar loves Young and hates Rooney EOD

Young's assist was an indirect one through a possible ref error and his on target shot was a poor shot at the keeper from point blank range

i dont want this boy januzaj to be loaned out.
he is 18,let him train with the big boys and play the odd match with United first and in January or season end IF u think he is not ready then u can send him on loan.
however in my opinion this boy is ready to contribute,maybe not in the biggest matches but at least in some home matches against minnows(where he might not have to put in much of a defensive shift)

coogar: rooney got a goal finally!
what a relief - i was beginning to divide £250,000 per number of minutes without a goal.

young made the match easier for us. he got a man sent off smartly. we got a goal from the incident. young then produced a masterclass performance in the 2nd half.

he made the job easier no doubt but inadvertently so.i am looking medium to long term.

when something happens by fluke rather than by design what are the chances of it happening again?

P.S januzaj has been MUCH MORE impressive than young in just 20 minutes of play

TAKE THAT COOGAR!!!!!

Rooney!!!!

coogar: hahahaha - ashley young got shots on target, got an assist, made the best pass of the game and yet he's shyte??

rooney is such a twät!
honestly, we should be talking of getting this massive waste of flesh out of the club. can mourinho just get this dude out of OT?

the best pass was rooney's pass to RVP that RVP slammed against the cross bar.

P.S young was shit in the 1st half,improved in the second half.total score? average

even during silvestre's shittiest performances there would be a good cross field pass and even djemba djemba made isolated great tackles while stinking up the place

coogar: so you agree he's performed well but you want him out cos he's on a yellow? that's a good one.

dont twist my words when i never leave!
i said that was A GOOD PASS.....repeat A as in one good pass.
i wasnt talking abt his performance over 65mins

anderson is sooooo fat

see him tumbling like a tumbler

coogar: what a pass from young to valencia....valencia cuts back & mumu rooney kicks the air. kagawa would be hitting the target from there.

good pass from young, but still want him out though.he is one more dive or silly tackle away from a red

r231: With all due respect sir.....I DISAGREE

carrick has shown some flashes of class but his general passing and touch have been unusually below par

P.S Young needs to be taken off,what a silly tackle.

11 against 10,surely we can give zaha or januzaj minutes now

meanwhile carrick with 65 % pass accuracy,no aerial duels won and no tackles but 9 interceptions tough and anderson with 76 % accuracy .

lots of room for improvement in central midfield

anyway FOR NOW i dont care about the quality of football or how we score the goals,i just want the THREE POINTS.

later in the season we will ask questions about quality of play.dropping more points now will lead to more pressure on david moyes from fans and the media

coogar: he's got an assist - job done!
we now play against 10 men and it should be easier for us from here. young is still better than giggs, welbeck or rooney on the left flank.

he is better than a 40yr old and a pair of strikers on the left flank. now that is so surprising!

all of our wingers have been mediocre this season and i just hope its not a trend

coogar: i like how young shuts the mouth of you guys. he's won a penalty, managed to get his marker sent off.

he has been playing trash.he cant depend on winning penalties every match

OPE OOO
RVP score o

Our wingers are not helping us.HELP!

Ashley Young is so silly! Rather than go for goal he was looking for a penalty

SailorXY: *Rolls eyes*
These are the kind of games he should be getting even if ....

said to have the flu,i believe he will get minutes in the champs league.and i really would have preferred him to sit out this match and play midweek just cos of the jet lag issue

i would have liked nani on the bench though.e no matter this is enough for 3 points and hopefully zaha and/or januzaj get minutes in the 2nd half

P.S nice to see fabio and anderson getting a chance

nitlad: Buckle down!!!

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I am convinced that Elampiro is the man for the job.

The attacking trium-virate behind the lead striker can always inter-change and dove-tail to devastating effect.

this nitlad u no well

why u wan cause confusion na? do u think elampiro would ever pass to coogar?

best thing move elampiro to sailorXY position so he can CLIP any "messi" on that wing.

move sailorXY to support coogar cos they seem to be on the same wavelength.

move SAF to the bench to control boys from there,me i go keep (but i will be a Rene Higuita style keeper o)

coogar: i don't get the ashley young hatred. when in form, he gives us penetration on the left flank. i still prefer him to giggs or rooney playing wide on the left. he assists goals like no other in the league - what else can we ask from him?

he sometimes cuts back too much and doesnt take his man on enough

LOL every fan here has a player in the squad he hates/dislikes PLUS of course public enemy number one Baba Giggs

elampiro: Time to keep shut and keep this for another day. Is it called adjournment or postponement or rescheduling? But when we come back it should be with evidence- stating minute of the match when certain actions took place.

sleep well

elampiro: Exactly, at least I am reporting what I saw. But you used you plasma hd TV and you could see nothing, you were overtaken by nervousness. Your assumption till date was that Messi, Iniester and Eto all operated via Evra's wing.

elampiro once and for all which wing did messi play against us? was it left wing(hargreaves side) or right wing (evra's side)?

Sir Alex Ferguson himself said Evra's side.Numerous posters here concur,do u disagree with them?

and if he played on the left wing against Hargreaves,who played on the right against Evra?

or is it that u agree with SAF and everyone here that Messi played on the right against Evra but Hargreaves was still able to CLIP him from across the field on the right?